Originally Posted by gwillim
maybe next year.
Par is pretty much irrelevant anyhow, which is why I wrote my total score as 44 instead of -12, but both 13 and 18 are fours. The definition of par is one very good drive (by an experienced player) and the option for two putts. There is no one in the world that can get within 60' off the drive on 13 or 18 without something really weird happening.
Most designers do not consider this to be true anymore, it greatly depends on the hole layout and whether or not there are obstacles in front of the basket.
My opinion on hole 13, is when I play the hole well I get an easy three, when I play the hole pretty well I need to make a 25-30 footer for a 3, when I play the hole poorly I usually get a 4, even when I put my tee shot into the woods on the left. This hole is a tweener and needs to be resigned to be a hole that can be easily classified with a par rating. I would like to see the basket tucked inside the trees on the left and then we can call it a strong par 4.
Nice shooting Ryan, did you shoot that in a bag tag match!!!!