[papatart]

Wow, sorry to hear that about your disc. I will say that the weight thing is an issue and that is why we have ours listed on eBay with both the marked weight and actual weight.

On another note, I finally got to go out and throw a bit with a friend (more powerful than me) and we gave the D1 and D4 a test of our own.

Findings: The D1's we threw all were definitely overstable enough to handle both power and being put onto an anhyzer line without flipping. These babies are fast and long. Thrown hard it basically stayed straight and had a pretty quick finish (with a skip) once it ran out of juice. I would put it in the same boat as a Z Nuke.

The D4's we threw were fun! Again, another high speed disc but on the understable side (think Nuke SS, but not as understable). Again, fast and long and with enough air under it it was able to start with hyzer, flip to flat and then a slight turn before finishing with a long drawn out fade. This should make the less powerful players looking for a high speed driver very happy. I did also test one of the uber heavy ones (180) and it has much more of a dome top and also more overstable than the normal weighted ones.

The other surprise was the ease and distance that came from the Trespass. Yep, Dynamic has a nice disc here with a not too overstable high speed driver that cruises like nobody's business. My friend threw this one about five feet off the ground and screamed it close to 400 feet. Yowza!

So there you have it, have fun and get your disc on!

Scott Papa