What disc do you throw for thumbers? How good are you at putting? Christian and I have been playing a combined 20 plus years here. I've played 275 courses in 26 states so its not like we are trying to make this up. Been to the World championships 5 times and played 15 plus tournaments for the last 10 years. The facts that we are stating are just that. I wish the NorthStar was tournament worthy. I want 3or 4, even 5 tournament worthy courses up there!!