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Old June 29th, 2011, 10:08 PM
LJ Jubner
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Default Blood Sweat and Tears

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...The problem isn't that I don't care about Downriver, it's that I probably cared too much and was disappointed too many times.
Sky Pilot
Disappointment is part of the game and it's politics. As someone who has been battered and bruised by the many disappointments It's better to just move on and rely the ones who can and do make it happen not the blowhards or the jubbies come latelies.


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I first began to become discouraged with Downriver when the redesign didn't happen in 09'.
In addition, I also didn't particularly like the direction of hole #2's tee pad. It was pointed directly at #17's basket. When the Board toured the course to discuss changes mandated by the City a while back we talked about tee pad placement for #2. When I saw the work on the pad I was impressed and grateful that they did a fine job - just disappointed about the alignment of it. I also was disappointed when I recently saw the state of the Tee Signs at that course. They have suffered a great deal of damage since I refinished them in 2010.

Sky Pilot
Did you honestly beleive "once was going to be enough" and "pleased" after the fact? Silly Rabbit

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...Downriver is a great area with wonderful potential, I just think that we need to start over and do it up right.
It was also discouraging to me that I stated in no uncertain terms that hole #8 was the best example of a violation of the city's rules concerning breaking down the bank when people retrieve their discs from the waters edge. Unfortunately, nothing has been done about this. Bressler (the City Park Operations Manager) and I will be touring Downriver soon to apprise him of the changes. If I was a liar I could steer him away from #8 and tell him we changed it, but that's not my style.

Sky Pilot
This brings up two different problems
First: Why are you alone meeting with the P/R guy?

Seems pretty needy to me and almost a veiled threat Personally speaking that is

Second maybe your not a liar but entering into agreements on the clubs behalf without club support is just asking for disaster. IE Payment for clinics

A better way might be to ask for the P/R guidelines in writing then present them as fact not hear say.

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Personally I think Downriver needs an upgrade. I'd like to see the club seriously consider a true re-design. Since we like to nit-pick so much about that course, perhaps we could just pay a real course designer to do it. Then when the criticisms come (and indeed they will) we could refer the grumblers to the designer.

Sky Pilot

Central Lesson of recent LCO course changes

Want to hear bitching
Tell the tournament players the course will NOT be what they have always played her so their once "tuned bag" is now worthless.

Blood, Sweat and Tears?
It seems you realized the easiest of the three. You should try the other two on for size!
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