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General Scales December 4th, 2012 05:38 PM

Legacy Patriot Test
 
So I won a contest a while back to receive and write reviews for one of the new Legacy discs that is coming out (and now approved) the Patriot.

Here are pictures of what I just received since I just got it and it's too dark to throw. Feels great in the hand, feels like a cross between a Leopard and a Roadrunner. Really swirly marbled star like plastic. Feels a little slick but that's because it's brand new. Flat topped. Scaled weight 175.7

Top:
http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/486973_...00803770_n.jpg

Bottom:
http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/59599_303089713136343_203392515_n.jpg

Side Profile From Top:
http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/374459_...33468661_n.jpg

Side Profile From Bottom:
http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/21639_303089703136344_117233023_n.jpg

Full flight review coming as soon as I have daylight to throw in.l

TreeLove December 4th, 2012 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by General Scales (Post 130154)
Full flight review coming as soon as I have daylight to throw in.l

Glow it up and throw it tonight!

Stephen.Sines December 5th, 2012 08:47 AM

send it to me stu. I'll write you a review.
:)

General Scales December 5th, 2012 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Stephen.Sines (Post 130183)
send it to me stu. I'll write you a review.
:)

Maybe after I throw the crap out of it I will.

General Scales December 6th, 2012 12:45 AM

Threw the Patriot for about 20 minutes today during a break in the wind. All reports that the Patriot is a faster Leopard are spot on. It seems to have the same amount of glide as a River without the nose angle sensitivity. It can be thrown on an anhyzer without too much fear of it fighting back out of it unless you really fufu it. Here's some of the run downs of my better throws.

3rd throw, 70-75% power, 2 MPH tailwind, 355 feet. This was my first real attempt at putting any sort of moderate power on the disc. I released the disc flat and it flew flat for about the first 100-125 feet. After that it started it's right turn. I was expecting the wing to drop and it to burn into the ground from the way it started hooking but it maintained a nice flat right turn. It stayed that way until it was at about 300 feet and slowly started fading back. Release of the disc made it fly about 10-15 feet off the ground the entire way.

5th throw, 70-75% power, 3 MPH tailwind, 366 Feet. This was the first throw in which I tried to hyzer flip the disc. Upon release, disc reached about 15-18 feet off the ground. Flew straight in the hyzer angle for about 100 feet and then stood up to flat. Held the flat line the entire flight. Was really surprised on this flight as I thought it would drop out of the sky earlier then it did. I don't think the tailwind really had any effect on the flight to keep it up.

I had about 20 throws with it in the field, the wind picked back up and was all over the place. With gusts up to 15-20 mph, there was no reason to continue to try and throw it and get an accurate read of the disc. The wind is dying down over here again and I'm on my way to go try some full power throws, big rollers and sky anhyzers.

Stephen.Sines December 6th, 2012 09:17 AM

Stu.

from what you put into writing, I'm really looking forward to this new release. the build and suggested flight characteristics are faily spot on to what the Rico's brothers told me to expect. I cant wait for it's full release to the public.

I think wer may have a new winner. :)

thanks for the info

General Scales December 6th, 2012 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Stephen.Sines (Post 130244)
Stu.

from what you put into writing, I'm really looking forward to this new release. the build and suggested flight characteristics are faily spot on to what the Rico's brothers told me to expect. I cant wait for it's full release to the public.

I think wer may have a new winner. :)

thanks for the info

It's very true to what I had heard in all the pre-release hype. It's very easy to throw that's for sure. It DOES NOT like a headwind. once the wind hits 3-5 mph coming at your face, grabs something else unless you are wanting a giant turnover. In a tailwind, it will fly for days! I was throwing it full power yesterday once the wind died down again and it was just bombing. I'm going to head out today (hopefully) and get some video of it since that's the best way to share information these days. I broke 400 with it twice yesterday at full power. This thing is a hyzer flip and glide machine.

More information to come...

Michigan_Brian December 7th, 2012 06:02 AM

I'm interested in this discs based of these minimal reviews. Can anyone speculate on some Innova style numbers? Defintely have a spot open in my bag for something between (my) Leopard and rotating stock of 11-13 speed rollers.

Stephen.Sines December 7th, 2012 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Michigan_Brian (Post 130316)
I'm interested in this discs based of these minimal reviews. Can anyone speculate on some Innova style numbers? Defintely have a spot open in my bag for something between (my) Leopard and rotating stock of 11-13 speed rollers.

Try a P-Line TD/TD2 by discmania sometime. You may find what you are looking for to fill that spot :)

General Scales December 7th, 2012 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michigan_Brian (Post 130316)
I'm interested in this discs based of these minimal reviews. Can anyone speculate on some Innova style numbers? Defintely have a spot open in my bag for something between (my) Leopard and rotating stock of 11-13 speed rollers.

If I had to put flight numbers to it it would be:

7 speed
5-6 glide
-1 to -2 HSS
1 fade, maybe a little bit more.

General Scales December 7th, 2012 01:04 PM

I threw it on the course for the first time yesterday. Disc is great for line shaping. It's so easy to get to stand up and glide that I found myself powering down quite a bit and reaching distances that I throw more stable discs for. The more I put this disc through it's paces, the more I enjoy it's flight characteristics. I would firmly say that Legacy has produced a real winner of a disc here.

tmk December 7th, 2012 08:13 PM

Stu, your description sounds very riverish. Is there any reason to prefer the Patriot over the River?

General Scales December 8th, 2012 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tmk (Post 130366)
Stu, your description sounds very riverish. Is there any reason to prefer the Patriot over the River?

It has less nose angle sensitivity then the River does. Besides that one fact, the discs seem to fly identical. Can be finessed on for line shaping shots and can be crushed on for big sweeping anhyzer style flights. It seems maybe a little bit faster then a River but that could be just how I was throwing that day.

tmk December 8th, 2012 06:03 PM

Thanks for the info.

It would be interesting to hear about a side-by-side fly off between the two.

Do you have a friend with 250-300' power to give it a try?

General Scales December 8th, 2012 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by tmk (Post 130398)
Thanks for the info.

It would be interesting to hear about a side-by-side fly off between the two.

Do you have a friend with 250-300' power to give it a try?

I do but I do not have a friend that owns a River. I have a lot of experience with them but I started throwing Strikers instead of River's and just beating them to different stages of wear.

tmk December 8th, 2012 08:22 PM

A friend w/o a River???

Good thing Christmas in near ... <g>

matt December 9th, 2012 09:10 AM

Sounds like a lat64 diamond

matt December 9th, 2012 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by matt (Post 130425)
Sounds like a lat64 diamond

i guess a river fly's just as far a diamond only a little straighter (never had one)
this disc sounds very interesting

Kris C December 9th, 2012 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by General Scales (Post 130404)
I do but I do not have a friend that owns a River. I have a lot of experience with them but I started throwing Strikers instead of River's and just beating them to different stages of wear.

So we're not friends huh Stu??? :waaah:

My stats:
250-300 ft power - check!
Own a River - check!
Have a friend named Stu - check?

General Scales December 9th, 2012 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Kris C (Post 130428)
So we're not friends huh Stu??? :waaah:

My stats:
250-300 ft power - check!
Own a River - check!
Have a friend named Stu - check?

Lol, alright that works, when are you available next because I have that Breeze you need! I didn't know you owned a River though


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