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Nichola August 4th, 2011 09:22 AM

Starter discs for women
 
I finally got one of my old schoolmates to sign up for 2011 Chick Flick...:yay: She asked about which discs should she get as first timer so I suggested DX Leopard, Stingray and XD. I hope I did right. Any suggestions?

Celeste August 4th, 2011 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by LadyBuzzz (Post 104330)
I finally got one of my old schoolmates to sign up for 2011 Chick Flick...:yay: She asked about which discs should she get as first timer so I suggested DX Leopard, Stingray and XD. I hope I did right. Any suggestions?

Those will work. They will get 2 discs in their player's pack and we'll have someone at the table to help explain the different types/weights to newer players. Getting excited!

emmarose August 4th, 2011 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by LadyBuzzz (Post 104330)
I finally got one of my old schoolmates to sign up for 2011 Chick Flick...:yay: She asked about which discs should she get as first timer so I suggested DX Leopard, Stingray and XD. I hope I did right. Any suggestions?

very good suggestions.

as she gets more confidence i would suggest also a 150 valkyrie and i do believe every gal should have 150 champ sidewinder in her bag.

disc addict August 4th, 2011 11:18 AM

I have found that 150gram Innova dragons fly really good for new plays with limited skills.

Nichola August 4th, 2011 05:56 PM

Thank for some suggestions, and I don't mean to be biased more toward to Innova than other disc companies like Discraft, DGA or others. Any good other discs for newcomers than beside Innova?


I used to throw Buzzz a lot until I got hooked on Star XD which I got from Chick Flick couple years ago as you may notice my forum name....:o

emmarose August 4th, 2011 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by LadyBuzzz (Post 104371)
Thank for some suggestions, and I don't mean to be biased more toward to Innova than other disc companies like Discraft, DGA or others. Any good other discs for newcomers than beside Innova?


I used to throw Buzzz a lot until I got hooked on Star XD which I got from Chick Flick couple years ago as you may notice my forum name....:o

you know i love my eclipses!!! great beginner disc made by discraft... and i still carry 2 or 3 in my bag at all times...

himynameismatt August 5th, 2011 09:05 AM

There isn't a better beginner disc for men or women than the Pro Leopard. Will fly straight with minimal fade for anyone throwing 150-350 feet.

Get a lighter one if you have to. Add a midrange of choice and a putter and that's a great starter bag.

matt July 20th, 2012 07:24 AM

I was looking for the "whats in your bag ladies" thread when I found this one

just wanted to see what you ladies think about what discs my wife is now using

putts:
dx 102 polecat
dx 146 aviar p&a
mids:
dx 148 shark
dx 147 stingray (just got this on wed.)
drives:
dx 146 leopard
pro-d 146 stratus (just got this on wed.)
dx 136 sidewinder (just got this on wed.)

we also have a 137 blizzard krait and a 148 CH mamba
that she will end up with, (but I think they are too high of speed for her, right now)

any other recommendations?

thanks, matt (for allison)

emmarose July 20th, 2012 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by matt (Post 124114)
I was looking for the "whats in your bag ladies" thread when I found this one

just wanted to see what you ladies think about what discs my wife is now using

putts:
dx 102 polecat
dx 146 aviar p&a
mids:
dx 148 shark
dx 147 stingray (just got this on wed.)
drives:
dx 146 leopard
pro-d 146 stratus (just got this on wed.)
dx 136 sidewinder (just got this on wed.)

we also have a 137 blizzard krait and a 148 CH mamba
that she will end up with, (but I think they are too high of speed for her, right now)

any other recommendations?

thanks, matt (for allison)

i like the aviar, stingray, leopard and sidewinder. i would ditch the polecat. shark/stratus... i just don't know much about so i wouldn't recommend them.

the mamba will be good for her... if she's throwing a sidewinder successfully, there's no reason she couldn't throw a mamba, i would think. i would get her a 150 star valkyrie. and instead of the shark maybe an xd... i truly think the xd is one of the most underrated discs out there.

also, for the midranges it might be a good idea to bump her up in the weights. i throw very light (especially for a pro) for my drivers but my putters and midranges are in the 165-175 range. they don't have to go as far so they can be heavier. this will help her get used to throwing heavier plastic, give her more control and help that putter stay in the chains.

any other questions come find me at lunch/player's party at the showdown.

emma

Adam Schneider July 20th, 2012 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by emmarose (Post 124121)
shark/stratus... i just don't know much about so i wouldn't recommend them.

I love my Stratus; it turns over easier than anything else in my bag, and I probably used it for 1/3 of my shots the last time I played Stub Stewart. But it's probably redundant with the Stingray.

One overall suggestion I'd make is to NOT use 150-class midranges. They can get tossed around by the wind really easily, and with slower discs you don't gain much of a distance advantage by dropping the weight. (150g drivers are fun though.)

matt July 20th, 2012 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Adam Schneider (Post 124122)
I love my Stratus; it turns over easier than anything else in my bag, and I probably used it for 1/3 of my shots the last time I played Stub Stewart. But it's probably redundant with the Stingray.

One overall suggestion I'd make is to NOT use 150-class midranges. They can get tossed around by the wind really easily, and with slower discs you don't gain much of a distance advantage by dropping the weight. (150g drivers are fun though.)

actually, I bought the stratus for me, but the lip is very small on it and doesnt fit in my hand very well
the plan is for her to throw both the stingray and the stratus and she which she likes best

and I had planned on going up in weights a little as our throwing improves

matt July 20th, 2012 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by emmarose (Post 124121)
i like the aviar, stingray, leopard and sidewinder. i would ditch the polecat. shark/stratus... i just don't know much about so i wouldn't recommend them.

the mamba will be good for her... if she's throwing a sidewinder successfully, there's no reason she couldn't throw a mamba, i would think. i would get her a 150 star valkyrie. and instead of the shark maybe an xd... i truly think the xd is one of the most underrated discs out there.

also, for the midranges it might be a good idea to bump her up in the weights. i throw very light (especially for a pro) for my drivers but my putters and midranges are in the 165-175 range. they don't have to go as far so they can be heavier. this will help her get used to throwing heavier plastic, give her more control and help that putter stay in the chains.

any other questions come find me at lunch/player's party at the showdown.

emma

I am very anxious to see if that light little sidewinder will work for her

ptld2001 July 20th, 2012 11:08 AM

This looks like what we were trying to get for me when I started. Fortunately, we weren't able to find too much in super light weights. I later found out that it was just the wrong thing for me. I thought that since I wasn't getting distance, it obviously meant my discs were too heavy. It might be true, but it's a bad general assumption.

In a putting clinic, I asked about uses for lightweight putter, and the instructor didn't think much of them either. About the only use he could think of for a lightweight putter is for times when you should probably be using a mid. So, I'd ditch the light putters.

As far as light drivers -- does she have good technique? I've learned that lighter discs are less tolerant to poor technique. I have terrible technique, and the 150's did absolutely nothing for me. Any extra advantage I got from the lighter weight, I lost because I got terrible flutter. Until I'm able to improve my technique, I need to be throwing heavier discs so that I don't get the flutter. As I improve my technique, then I'll be able to handle the lighter discs, and increase my distance (hopefully). Obviously, I don't know if your wife has similar problems, but it isn't necessarily a wonderful idea to get really light discs if she can't handle them. It can cause extreme frustration trying to make them fly correctly (believe me - I know!).

matt July 20th, 2012 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by ptld2001 (Post 124128)
This looks like what we were trying to get for me when I started. Fortunately, we weren't able to find too much in super light weights. I later found out that it was just the wrong thing for me. I thought that since I wasn't getting distance, it obviously meant my discs were too heavy. It might be true, but it's a bad general assumption.

In a putting clinic, I asked about uses for lightweight putter, and the instructor didn't think much of them either. About the only use he could think of for a lightweight putter is for times when you should probably be using a mid. So, I'd ditch the light putters.

As far as light drivers -- does she have good technique? I've learned that lighter discs are less tolerant to poor technique. I have terrible technique, and the 150's did absolutely nothing for me. Any extra advantage I got from the lighter weight, I lost because I got terrible flutter. Until I'm able to improve my technique, I need to be throwing heavier discs so that I don't get the flutter. As I improve my technique, then I'll be able to handle the lighter discs, and increase my distance (hopefully). Obviously, I don't know if your wife has similar problems, but it isn't necessarily a wonderful idea to get really light discs if she can't handle them. It can cause extreme frustration trying to make them fly correctly (believe me - I know!).

in short, she has almost no technique http://www.nwdiscgolfnews.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9319
we are both just beginning

ptld2001 July 20th, 2012 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by matt (Post 124129)
in short, she has almost no technique http://www.nwdiscgolfnews.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9319
we are both just beginning

When she throws, does the disc flutter, or does it fly cleanly? The flutter is caused by off-axis-torque, which is exacerbated by light discs. If she has that problem, then you obviously would like to get rid of it over the long run. Throwing light discs will demonstrate whether you're doing it right or wrong. However, it can become extremely frustrating to keep seeing that you're doing it wrong. So, it might be better to try heavier discs, while still working on improving technique to the point that lighter discs will fly correctly.

p-nit July 20th, 2012 12:50 PM

When talking to new women almost every weekend in the shop I always recommend throwing an entire (yes EVERY shot) with a stable mid-range disc (Roc, Cobra, Stingray,etc), and trying both back and fore-hand shots. This is usually if it's their very first round. The disc tends to stay in the middle making it easier to find, and more fun for the new player. As a progressive disc, mostly I suggest a 150 Leopard in Pro or DX plastic as it is easy to grip, and a Rhyno or Banger putter, as the rims on these make it easy to keep your thumb where ya'spose tah :) helps with the "flutter effect", and both are easy to get super straight. Discraft has the X line of drivers which are great for straight long distance shots, and won't retire from your bag as you get better. The XS & XL in z-elite or x-elite plastic are great. That's my two cents, from a chick that sells discs. Most of all remember it is only 1% the disc, and 99% the player, so form is everything!

p-nit July 20th, 2012 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by emmarose (Post 104373)
you know i love my eclipses!!! great beginner disc made by discraft... and i still carry 2 or 3 in my bag at all times...

Oh, and I totally agree with the Sidewinder as a 165-168g! Better spin off the mid-weights on those speed of drivers (anything between a 7 or 10).

matt July 20th, 2012 08:22 PM

i also just today, got her a lattitude64 opto 151 diamond

emmarose July 24th, 2012 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by matt (Post 124161)
i also just today, got her a lattitude64 opto 151 diamond

good choice, matt... i love my opto diamond light (altho i mostly have replaced it with the mamba... mamba goes farther).



p.s. it was really nice to meet the two of you this weekend, thank you again for being out there spotting for us and we'll see you in a couple weeks at the chick flick!

matt July 24th, 2012 07:45 PM

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i also just today, got her a lattitude64 opto 151 diamond

the only problem is, she doesnt want to throw it, because I got it dyed on sat
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Originally Posted by emmarose (Post 124298)
good choice, matt... i love my opto diamond light (altho i mostly have replaced it with the mamba...


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Originally Posted by matt (Post 124114)
we also have a 148 CH mamba
that she will end up with, (but I think they are too high of speed for her, right now)
any other recommendations?
thanks, matt (for allison)

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Originally Posted by emmarose (Post 124298)
p.s. it was really nice to meet the two of you this weekend, thank you again for being out there spotting for us and we'll see you in a couple weeks at the chick flick!

it was very good to meet you also, and (put a face to a screen name)
I think its going to be a great time for her, (and me) at chick flick


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