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    I heard from a friend about a club member charging $5 for returned discs. The person supposedly scuba dives in shallow water, and calls the people about their discs. The first time it happened the man asked for a couple bucks for the oxygen tank or donations to a new local course being installed. This time around some club members are a little mad that they were being more so 'told' to pay $5 for THEIR disc instead of 'asked' for a donation.

    I understand both sides of this argument about charging for it, but if I find a disc am I now allowed to call them up and ask for $5 to get it back??? My friend said the club seems to be all about charging the money because they are obviously benefiting from the so called 'donations'. Is some kind of integrity being broken here though by not being just willing to just give the discs back? I am sure the scuba diver is looking for his own discs as well. I am just curious what others think. Apparently, the club president even said to a person, tell the guy to go throw your discs back in the water then.

    I think a buck or two isn't bad personally.

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    I am a member of this club, and I was there when the president said this... and let me be the first to call bs... I have never charged for ANY DISC to be returned, and I've found some plastic that ppl would have given a big reward for (ce leopard, fr ce firebird, 10x roc, etc)... it would be a different story if I lost my irreplacable driver, and I told someone, "hey, I will pay you $20 to find my driver"... Plus, this kid isnt anything but a club member, how am I to know where my $5 went? Do I get a paper trail of receipts, to show everytime my money changed hands, until it helps pay for a basket?? Obviously that is a little extreme, but, how do I know this kid isn't just using my money to buy beer for himself?? My main problem is him holding discs for ransom. What is he going to do to my disc if I dont pay him? If he asked for donations, I would gladly flip him a 5. Lastly, it really pisses me off that he is using the new course as an excuse for bs behavior. If he called me and said "dude, I found your disc, could you donate to my beer fund?".. I gladly would donate, but demanding does nothing but make ppl mad... If he sells my disc to someone else, cuz I won't buy it back, I will still keep an eye out, and let them know its mine

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    • #3
      I'm not a member of the local club, but I did just get a returned disc that was lost in the water. The guy didn't ask for any money but I still spotted him $5 cause I thought it was nice of him to find my disc and actualy call me on it.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by hudsonryan View Post
        Is some kind of integrity being broken here though by not being just willing to just give the discs back? I am sure the scuba diver is looking for his own discs as well. I am just curious what others think.
        My Opinion:

        If you leave a park/course knowing you have a lost disc there, you are forfeiting your "ownership" of that disc. This applies to any "lost possession" really.
        Is it great when a call comes? Absolutely, which is why I put my name and number on my discs, however, I do not ever "expect" to get my disc(s) back.

        I see what the diver is doing here as a service. I know him personally, and know there is zero "shady" going on here. I think he merely saw an opportunity to help raise funds for the new course going in, I seriously doubt the Club had anything to do with the instigation of any of this.

        My 2 pence.......argue away..

        Shawn

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        • #5
          While I don't agree with being told you have to donate to get your disc back, if somebody is taking the effort to dive for discs, you're the asshole if you're not kicking down a couple bucks.

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          • #6
            As soon as my disc hits water that isn't right off the shore of the river or lake or pond that I threw into, I consider it gone. Sucks but it's no longer my property. I knew the risk and I threw it. It's gone.

            If a diver gets my disc back, is nice enough to call me and ask for a couple of bucks for the trouble, sweet. I wasn't going to go after it. It's awesome they did. The cost of even 5 bucks can be worth the money it saves in the long run. Like losing a OOP disc can set you back 50 or more depending on mold. 5 bucks seems like a better deal...
            "Honest work is for the downtrodden and the Polish"
            Cleveland Brown

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            • #7
              I think given the effort the diver goes to to retrieve the discs, a small 'suggested donation' to help the cause isn't too far of a reach. A disc ransom seems like what this sounds like though. I threw a disc into a pond about a month ago and considered it gone but a guy i was playing with, didn't even know who he was, figured it was reachable so he worked on fishing it out and gave it back to me. i couldn't keep it for all his work and didn't have any beer, my usual repayment for lost discs, so i gave him the disc he retrieved out.

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              • #8
                I think I would just be happy if someone actually called when they found my disc....
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by EnigmaSquad View Post
                  I think I would just be happy if someone actually called when they found my disc....
                  Agreed!
                  Nihilists! F@#$ me. I mean, say what you like about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it's an ethos.

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                  • #10
                    If someone is spending money on filling oxygen tanks to find discs that seems a bit different that just picking up a disc that was lying in the woods. And I've never seen a disc golf course with water hazards that I would voluntarily get into. Just sayin' ~

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                    • #11
                      I find it wrong to call it a donation when it is considered mandatory even if only implied.

                      On the topic of paying someone who retrieved my disc, I would kick down some cash for the effort. If the price was consistent and the person wasn't rude about it.
                      "Love is not primarily a relationship to a specific person. Love is an attitude, an ordination of character which determines the relatedness of the person to the whole world as a whole, not toward one object of love.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by EnigmaSquad View Post
                        I think I would just be happy if someone actually called when they found my disc....
                        i have had so FEW disc's returned/called ....the last person to return a disc to me got it given back to them a couple of weeks later and it was a early eco-destroyer. Thanks Xander

                        i can seriously think of 2 calls from strangers on a piece of lost/left plastic in the last 10 years and 1 was from a ranger at Dabney and i have lost/left 20+ disc's in that time including many "CE" disc's.


                        i would have paid a 5 dollar fee for any1 of the disc's some1 had to dive for or 1 they picked up in the schule that i had lost.
                        "In Discatarianism We Trust"

                        :cheers:

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                        • #13
                          I would be fine paying $5 for most of my discs If I lost them, doubly so If lost in a water hazard. Other discs might not be worth $5, and I might then give it to the person who found it.

                          But note, this person who finds the abandoned personal property has a right of ownership against all but the true owner/bona fide purchaser (BFP). If the bona fide purchaser claims ownership, the finder of the abandoned property must relinquish control. Now being a BFP and proving that you are a BFP to the court are two different things entirely.

                          What the diver should be doing is reporting/turning over each abandoned disc to the police, and if not claimed after X amount of time, the police will typically give it to him as the finder of abandoned property.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Cornwall, Esq. View Post
                            What the diver should be doing is reporting/turning over each abandoned disc to the police, and if not claimed after X amount of time, the police will typically give it to him as the finder of abandoned property.
                            You're joking right?

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                            • #15
                              Just depends on how bad you want your disc back I guess, Ive lost one that I gladly pay $5.00 for, especially if it was to help fund the new course, I also have lost one that I wouldnt pay $5.00 for brand new, hence why I threw it and left the course once I lost it

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