I went and met with this man, his name is Rick older fella. He is a fisherman and found all of them over the last year. He had maybe 4-5 discs worth buying and I bought 3 of them. One which was my glow boss i had lost a few weeks back. Mostly all of them were old plastic, scraped up no name, no type of disc labeled on it. Glad I found him and bought my disc back for $5.