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  • OR Team DG: Captain's Meeting Summary

    Here's a quick summary of what went on at the captain's meeting last
    night. Please chime in with corrections, clarifications, and additions.

    1. A proposal to allow each team one mid-season replacement due to
    injury, moving, new job, childbirth, jail, etc. was APPROVED 12-0.

    2. A proposal to change the way doubles teams are rated back to
    averaging the two player's ratings (like two years ago) instead of
    taking the highest player's rating on the team (like last year)
    was DEFEATED 7-5.

    3. A proposal to require a player to play a singles match if they are
    also going to play a doubles match was APPROVED. This is to
    prevent a team that shows with 5 or 6 players from "hiding" a
    player in doubles all match. Normally a team that wants the 7
    player bonus point must put each player in at least one singles
    match. If a team doesn't have 7 players for a match there is no
    incentive to play everyone in at least one singles match since you
    can't get the bonus point anyway. Therefore this new rule.

    4. Much gnashing of teeth was done regarding how to achieve a better
    split of teams between Sat/Sun. Here are some proposals:

    A. Leave the split at 10/6 and use the following schedule:
    Sunday teams play every other team once;
    Saturday teams play every other team (except one) twice.

    One unresolved issue here is that Team Skinny "has" to play on
    Sunday yet there is another new team (3 C's & a D) that has more
    "seniority" and also wants to take that last Sunday spot. The
    remaining 9 Sunday spots are taken by teams from last year.

    B. Force one or more Sunday teams to move to Saturday even if
    that means those teams will have to replace players that
    can't play on Saturday.

    C. Each week have two teams from Sunday play on Saturday to make
    an 8/8 split. This would allow mingling of teams from both
    days which otherwise won't happen expect on Dec. 6th at
    Horning's and the final at Milo.

    The problem with this proposal is that some teams have players
    that absolutely can't play on Saturdays.

    D. Get two (or four) new teams to sign up for Saturday to help even
    the days out.

    One point regarding an uneven split that no one has raised yet is: how
    do the year end championships get arranged? Historically the two
    divisions have been evenly split and the first plays first, second
    plays second, etc. With an uneven number of teams we can't do this.
    One idea is to still have the two firsts play off for the championship
    and then seed all the remaining teams by their point totals and have
    3rd/4th play, 5th/6th play, etc.


  • #2
    Originally posted by Jeff Hemmerling View Post
    Here's a quick summary of what went on at the captain's meeting last
    night. Please chime in with corrections, clarifications, and additions.

    1. A proposal to allow each team one mid-season replacement due to
    injury, moving, new job, childbirth, jail, etc. was APPROVED 12-0.

    2. A proposal to change the way doubles teams are rated back to
    averaging the two player's ratings (like two years ago) instead of
    taking the highest player's rating on the team (like last year)
    was DEFEATED 7-5.

    3. A proposal to require a player to play a singles match if they are
    also going to play a doubles match was APPROVED. This is to
    prevent a team that shows with 5 or 6 players from "hiding" a
    player in doubles all match. Normally a team that wants the 7
    player bonus point must put each player in at least one singles
    match. If a team doesn't have 7 players for a match there is no
    incentive to play everyone in at least one singles match since you
    can't get the bonus point anyway. Therefore this new rule.

    4. Much gnashing of teeth was done regarding how to achieve a better
    split of teams between Sat/Sun. Here are some proposals:

    A. Leave the split at 10/6 and use the following schedule:
    Sunday teams play every other team once;
    Saturday teams play every other team (except one) twice.

    One unresolved issue here is that Team Skinny "has" to play on
    Sunday yet there is another new team (3 C's & a D) that has more
    "seniority" and also wants to take that last Sunday spot. The
    remaining 9 Sunday spots are taken by teams from last year.


    B. Force one or more Sunday teams to move to Saturday even if
    that means those teams will have to replace players that
    can't play on Saturday.

    C. Each week have two teams from Sunday play on Saturday to make
    an 8/8 split. This would allow mingling of teams from both
    days which otherwise won't happen expect on Dec. 6th at
    Horning's and the final at Milo.

    The problem with this proposal is that some teams have players
    that absolutely can't play on Saturdays.

    D. Get two (or four) new teams to sign up for Saturday to help even
    the days out.

    One point regarding an uneven split that no one has raised yet is: how
    do the year end championships get arranged? Historically the two
    divisions have been evenly split and the first plays first, second
    plays second, etc. With an uneven number of teams we can't do this.
    One idea is to still have the two firsts play off for the championship
    and then seed all the remaining teams by their point totals and have
    3rd/4th play, 5th/6th play, etc.
    That's about the jist of it Jeff except I want to clarify that our team was willing to give up our rank for the 8/8 spit, but not so much for a 10/6 split. Not sure how the other new teams feel, but it is kinda unfair for a new team to come in and get to play on the big fat Sunday league while the rest of us have to play with just 6 teams. Let's just beat the drum hard for team disc golf, and maybe we can come up with a couple more teams. That would be the easiest solution to make it a 8/10 split at least. If that does not happen I would vote for C in that each week some Sunday teams play on Saturday. Obviously that would make it way more complicated to make up the schedule though.

    Cindy
    Next Adventure Flight Crew Member
    2013 Chick Flick co-TD
    Stumptown #176
    PDGA #37716

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    • #3
      Clarification on #1. Mid-season replacements were only approved for injury and moving out of state. Tough beans on jail or baby makin.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Jeff Hemmerling View Post

        2. A proposal to change the way doubles teams are rated back to
        averaging the two player's ratings (like two years ago) instead of
        taking the highest player's rating on the team (like last year)
        was DEFEATED 7-5.

        3. A proposal to require a player to play a singles match if they are
        also going to play a doubles match was APPROVED. This is to
        prevent a team that shows with 5 or 6 players from "hiding" a
        player in doubles all match. Normally a team that wants the 7
        player bonus point must put each player in at least one singles
        match. If a team doesn't have 7 players for a match there is no
        incentive to play everyone in at least one singles match since you
        can't get the bonus point anyway. Therefore this new rule.
        Hey Cappy-

        Can you expand on how doubles will be incorporated this year. Will it be similar to last year with the addition of the rule noted above?

        Thanks.

        JP

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Celeste View Post
          Clarification on #1. Mid-season replacements were only approved for injury and moving out of state. Tough beans on jail or baby makin.
          Prego's can still play.
          "Operator! Give me the number for 911! " - Homer S.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Celeste View Post
            Clarification on #1. Mid-season replacements were only approved for injury and moving out of state. Tough beans on jail or baby makin.
            Thank God for the new rule! If anyone is gonna need a replacement for JAIL time it's D&D.

            Bob

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            • #7
              Originally posted by "Over the Hill" Bob View Post
              Thank God for the new rule! If anyone is gonna need a replacement for JAIL time it's D&D.

              Bob
              Yeah, Bob, but how the heck can you replace a whole team?

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              • #8
                Doubles Rule Clarification

                Originally posted by Pizzel View Post
                Can you expand on how doubles will be incorporated this year. Will it be similar to last year with the addition of the rule noted above?
                Yes. The handicap will be based on the difference in rating between the highest rated player on each doubles team (same as last year).

                The new rule can be simply stated as: You must play singles if you're going to play doubles. If a player plays doubles in the morning round with the intent of playing singles in the afternoon but doesn't for some reason then we agreed that their team will forfeit the morning doubles result (as if they didn't field a doubles team at all).

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Jeff Hemmerling View Post
                  Yes. The handicap will be based on the difference in rating between the highest rated player on each doubles team (same as last year).

                  The new rule can be simply stated as: You must play singles if you're going to play doubles. If a player plays doubles in the morning round with the intent of playing singles in the afternoon but doesn't for some reason then we agreed that their team will forfeit the morning doubles result (as if they didn't field a doubles team at all).
                  Got it.....but can you expand on the overall format? For example, will there be four singles matches in the morning and afternoon and only doulbes matches if teams have enough players (like last year)? Spanks!

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Pizzel View Post
                    Got it.....but can you expand on the overall format? For example, will there be four singles matches in the morning and afternoon and only doulbes matches if teams have enough players (like last year)? Spanks!
                    Yes. You must have your four singles players before doubles can be played. One team MUST have at least 6 people in order to play doubles. If both teams only have 5 then there is no doubles match. You can't have two people playing Cali.

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                    • #11
                      1. A proposal to allow each team one mid-season replacement due to
                      injury, moving, new job, childbirth, jail, etc. was APPROVED 12-0.
                      This is a grossly inaccurate representation of what actually took place. I am certain of at least 1 vote against!

                      Probably best for you not to short-hand and short-stroke simultaneously when taking notes Hemmerling.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by kel View Post
                        This is a grossly inaccurate representation of what actually took place. I am certain of at least 1 vote against!

                        Probably best for you not to short-hand and short-stroke simultaneously when taking notes Hemmerling.
                        Ha! Yeah, I'm pretty sure George was against it. Maybe Jeff didn't have his hearing aid turned up?

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by jevon View Post
                          Ha! Yeah, I'm pretty sure George was against it. Maybe Jeff didn't have his hearing aid turned up?
                          He mentioned that, our team will be referring to this new disgrace to Team Golf as: the Pussy Rule
                          Proud member #20 of STUMPTOWN Disc Golf and the PDGA #30488
                          Damn The Weak Side!!!!!!

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Darr View Post
                            He mentioned that, our team will be referring to this new disgrace to Team Golf as: the Pussy Rule
                            So now the question is which team will be the first to club their weakest player like a baby seal to be able to replace them?

                            Maybe we can get Tanya Harding to start up a Saturday team.
                            Huh...I didn't even see that tree.
                            PDGA #37890
                            Stumptown #157
                            ODW TDG 10-11
                            3C&D TDG 09-10

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by kel View Post
                              This is a grossly inaccurate representation of what actually took place. I am certain of at least 1 vote against!
                              OK, OK, so maybe I got the exact numbers wrong. It was a pretty lopsided vote. I wasn't taking notes so it's all from memory and we all know (especially Jevon) how bad my memory is, getting on in years like I am...

                              Originally posted by kel View Post
                              Probably best for you not to short-hand and short-stroke simultaneously when taking notes Hemmerling.
                              Damn it Kel, can't you keep a secret!

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