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  • 2013 Rose City Open presented by Huk Lab - May 25th/26th - Pier Park!




    Flight assignments:
    Flight A: MA1, FA1, MPG.
    Flight B: MPO, FPO, MPM, MM1

    Friday, May 24th
    4:00 - 7:00 PM - Early check in
    5:30 - 8:30 PM - random flip doubles($5)

    Saturday May 25th:
    7:30 - 8:30 am - Check in
    9:00 - Flight A Players' meeting
    9:30 - Flight A Tee off Round 1
    11:00 - 12:00 Flight B Check in
    12:30 - Flight B Players' meeting
    1:00 - Flight B Tee off Round 1
    4:00 - Flight A Players' meeting
    4:15 - Flight A Tee off Round 2

    Sunday May 26th:
    7:30 - Flight B Players' meeting
    8:00 - Flight B Tee off Round 2
    11:00 - Flight A Players' meeting
    11:30 - Flight A Tee off Round 3
    2:30 - Flight B Players' meeting
    2:45 - Flight B Tee off Round 3
    6:00 - Awards

    Thanks to: Huk Lab, Innova Champion Discs, Next Adventure, Stumptown Disc Golf, 4discgolf.com, Discraft, Bart Yanoch and the Rose Bud Almost Open and Plews Brews!
    Last edited by DGOD! Disc Golf; May 22nd, 2013, 09:34 AM.

  • Mcw5378
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    Is there going to be any video posted of this years RCO?

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  • TheCannon
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    Nice work Dan and everyone that helped out! Had a great weekend. Thanks to everyone I had the opportunity to see and play with.

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  • DGOD! Disc Golf
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    Well, I hope everyone had a good time...

    I just want to thank some people real quick...
    First: JEFF HAGERTY! Thank you soooo much for giving me this opportunity. It was an awesome experience. I've learned a ton, and I obviously couldn't have done it without you! Thank you Jeff!
    And everyone at Stumptown-Mike Phillips, Jeff Mittl, Cindy McMahn.
    Jay and HUK LAB! I will cherish the banner forever!
    All the DGOD helpers: The Great Zac Beltz! Who is back at work today(6am) after like 4 hours of sleep all weekend, Thank you buddy! Matty O, Dan Brown Jr, Ian Clark-Williams, Brett Kelly, Skipp Shelly, and everyone who helped pick up trash all week.
    Ryan Gwillim, Mike Rideout, Steve Carson and 4discgolf.com.
    And my wife for putting the trophies together! She really hope's everyone liked them!

    A ton of work goes into these things, with very little reward. A simple "thank you" goes a long way.

    Sponsors:
    Huk Lab
    Next Adventure
    Innova Champion Discs
    Bart Yanoch and the Rose Bud Almost Open!
    Discraft
    Plews Brews
    Gawain Stern and sweet plastic
    Anthony Bee and the Tinicum Disc Golf Club.
    And the weather!

    Congratulations to all the winners!

    There are still some RCO Discs available for $20.
    ROC3, Glow Max, and Full Color ESP Buzzz.
    All proceeds go to next years RCO.
    I'll have some at Lunchtime League Tonight...

    I would also like to apologize to anyone who was counting on the sausage guy for food... especially the Friday people who were told not to bring any

    P.S. I like to play "ro sham bo", to see who flips the coin, to see who starts on the higher card... Just so you know

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  • Sam
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    Originally posted by olydiscgolf View Post
    After the first round, I usually go to by Alphabetical order, but another option is to sort by PDGA #. After 2nd or third round, I go by the best most recent round then PDGA #.
    Pretty sure that this is the standard used by most TDs. I know that this is what I have always done, as well.

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  • Sausage Fingers
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    Originally posted by Mcw5378 View Post
    Why not use theirs scores from the previous round?
    The hotter players gets rewarded somewhat.
    that doesn't work for the 2nd round

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  • TreeLove
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    Originally posted by Mcw5378 View Post
    Any chance scores from Sat are posted somewhere?
    http://www.pdga.com/tournament_results/102262

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  • Jason Philips
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    If you are tied for 9th I think there are bigger things to think of then where your card is placed.

    You stated it perfectly that this sport involves a major mental game and part of maturing your game is to get past mental hurdles like being on a lower card. There are several books and studies relating to mental game and almost all of them talk about playing the best you can no matter what card and not playing against the other players on your card. If you beat one person on the top of your card and just try to play to beat them while two cards back a player beats all of you because they set their sights higher it becomes a pretty brutal lesson.

    None the less if you have issue with how this TD setup the cards the best way to bring this up is a discussion directly with them off the boards. The discretion used by TD's is theirs and as long as it is uniform I can only say you need to suck it up and choose a different tournament if you can't handle it.

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  • olydiscgolf
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    Originally posted by Bullseye Disc Golf.com View Post
    What happens if in a division there are 10 players tied for 7th place? How do you place them in order on the scoreboard? If you do it by last name alphabetical order then that means Dan Zents and David Zimmerman are always in last place amongst the players they are tied with. This means they are playing 3 cards below Denny Axmacher.

    I asked Dave Feldberg about this to see what he would say and he said in that instance, the order of the players that are tied should always be a random shuffle of the players that are tied. If you do alphabetical order or pdga number then the same players get punished every event for having their last name begin with a Z.

    Is there an official PDGA guideline for this? Anybody know?
    After the first round, I usually go to by Alphabetical order, but another option is to sort by PDGA #. After 2nd or third round, I go by the best most recent round then PDGA #.

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  • snap7times
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    I say let the TD decide and play on... See ya sooooon... Living near Pier is awesome

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  • TreeLove
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    Originally posted by Mcw5378 View Post
    Hey can anyone give me a rough idea when the MPO final round will tee off Sunday?
    Going to try to head up from Salem today to watch.
    Thanks in advance.
    Sunday May 26th:
    7:30 - Flight B Players' meeting
    8:00 - Flight B Tee off Round 2
    11:00 - Flight A Players' meeting
    11:30 - Flight A Tee off Round 3
    2:30 - Flight B Players' meeting
    2:45 - Flight B Tee off Round 3
    6:00 - Awards

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  • Mcw5378
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    Hey can anyone give me a rough idea when the MPO final round will tee off Sunday?
    Going to try to head up from Salem today to watch.
    Thanks in advance.

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  • Flash
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    Originally posted by Bullseye Disc Golf.com View Post
    I just ran this tied scoring thing by my friend Jeff Browning who is not playing RCO this year. He brought up an interesting point. He said ranking players on a scoreboard by alphabet is totally unrelated to the play and the score of the player. That is what is essentially wrong with the alphabet system. It defeats the purpose of having a scoreboard in the first place and ranking players in order of their performance.

    His idea was that if ranking players on a scoreboard is supposed to reflect a players play, then tied players should be ranked on the final holes on the last card. This would be just like how we decide the order within any given group. So the players with the best scores on the final holes of the previous round would be placed higher up in order. If 1 player tied with 12 players finished their previous round with a triple bogey on the final hole, then they are last amongst the tied players. This makes a little more sense but it's more work for the scoring staff. It does however force the order of the next round to be dictated by the players performance rather than the 1st letter of their last name.

    I'm pretty sure this is how they do it in the NBA. If 2 teams finish the regular season with the same winning / losing record, the team that won their last few games would advance over the team that lost their final regular season games. Doesn't that make it performance based? Could you imagine if it were alphabetical? Say the Blazers were tied with the Warriors for regular season wins in the Western Conference, but the Blazers move up a rank because their team name starts with the letter B and the Warriors start with the letter W?

    If I were the scoring person it would drive me nuts but I've never been good with numbers! If the entire card were entered into Excell this would be all automated.
    I think you are way off base on this. It comes down to wins heads up and then division wins etc etc. Has nothing to do with who wins first or last.
    http://www.nba.com/news/features/pla...ers/index.html


    If you don't like the way the TD at your favorite events breaks ties then run your own event and do it your way. Were you hoping for an open discussion on this or are you trying to convince people your way is better? Perhaps you were just venting but it feels like you are coming at this thing from a passive aggressive point of view. There is no democracy in these types of decisions.

    If this is the biggest issue you have with competitive disc golf play then you are probably wound a little too tight. Everyone should be ready to play every round and play their best regardless of others in their group. Ties are inevitable and should not ruin your event regardless of how they are broken.

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  • Bullseye Disc Golf.com
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    I just ran this tied scoring thing by my friend Jeff Browning who is not playing RCO this year. He brought up an interesting point. He said ranking players on a scoreboard by alphabet is totally unrelated to the play and the score of the player. That is what is essentially wrong with the alphabet system. It defeats the purpose of having a scoreboard in the first place and ranking players in order of their performance.

    His idea was that if ranking players on a scoreboard is supposed to reflect a players play, then tied players should be ranked on the final holes on the last card. This would be just like how we decide the order within any given group. So the players with the best scores on the final holes of the previous round would be placed higher up in order. If 1 player tied with 12 players finished their previous round with a triple bogey on the final hole, then they are last amongst the tied players. This makes a little more sense but it's more work for the scoring staff. It does however force the order of the next round to be dictated by the players performance rather than the 1st letter of their last name.

    I'm pretty sure this is how they do it in the NBA. If 2 teams finish the regular season with the same winning / losing record, the team that won their last few games would advance over the team that lost their final regular season games. Doesn't that make it performance based? Could you imagine if it were alphabetical? Say the Blazers were tied with the Warriors for regular season wins in the Western Conference, but the Blazers move up a rank because their team name starts with the letter B and the Warriors start with the letter W?

    If I were the scoring person it would drive me nuts but I've never been good with numbers! If the entire card were entered into Excell this would be all automated.

    So Mcw5378 was actually correct in suggesting that the group order even after round 1 could still be determined by the players play from the previous round!
    Last edited by Bullseye Disc Golf.com; May 25th, 2013, 11:55 PM.

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  • Mcw5378
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    Originally posted by Bullseye Disc Golf.com View Post
    Yes but that wouldn't work for round 1.
    True.
    Was thinking more of for the final round.


    Any chance scores from Sat are posted somewhere?
    Hoping to make it up Sunday to watch the finals.

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