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  • Hornings Canyon hole 18 OB

    Is the swamp considered OB? I 'm not just talking the edge, Im asking if you are in the middle between the orange flags.

    We played double their yesterday. Both groups were tied going into 18 and thanks to my erant 2nd shot we bogeyed it. The other team put theier 2nd in the swamp. It was found and 3rd shot was thrown from there and they pared out for the win. I personally think the swamp should be OB and have always took a penalty there. I failed to look at the tee sign befor throwing.

    Is the swamp OB?

  • #2
    during the slosh out there in january the td deemed it "casual water"...

    peace,
    em
    "'There are two mantras.,' Bernard said, 'Yum and yuk. Mine is yum.'"
    Tom Robbins, Still Life With Woodpecker

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    • #3
      Originally posted by frizbeerose View Post
      during the slosh out there in january the td deemed it "casual water"...
      ...which means...?
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      • #4
        Originally posted by Chopper View Post
        Is the swamp OB?
        I've always played it O.B. If it's not considered that it should be.
        Sometimes my mind boggles. It's so deep my mind actually boggles.

        ~ Cyndi Lauper ~

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Adam Schneider View Post
          ...which means...?
          Casual water usually means it's not O.B. and you don't lose a stroke.
          Sometimes my mind boggles. It's so deep my mind actually boggles.

          ~ Cyndi Lauper ~

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          • #6
            The problem is how to define "the swamp." In August, there's no water at all, just a green grassy patch in a sea of yellow. Even now, there are dry spots.
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            • #7
              I think even dry that should be O.B. as it adds to the hole and makes that upshot more to think about.
              Sometimes my mind boggles. It's so deep my mind actually boggles.

              ~ Cyndi Lauper ~

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              • #8
                Swamp definition: a wetland often partially or intermittently covered with water; especially : one dominated by woody .

                How can it be deemed casual water if it is designated as a swamp?

                I thought casual water was considered water that is not usually there.

                I agree that there is not always water there but when there is...it's supposed to be there hence the word swamp.

                I'm sure this must have already been addressed at some point.

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                • #9
                  The course is generally played with this NOT being OB but I can see an argument both ways. The problem I see is that there is no clear definition as to where the OB begins and ends.
                  ďI believe I can hit 18 greens, hit every fairway, you know ó Vision 54, which means you birdie every hole, thatís in the back of my mind. I want to putt better, chip better. That day when I hit 18 greens and one putt, Iíll know Iím a complete golfer. Will that ever happen? Iím not sure, but itís possible. The 54 vision is always in the back of my mind.Ē
                  ~Annika SŲrenstam

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                  • #10
                    The swamp cannot be played as OB because it is not clearly defined.

                    Also, for purposes of a tournament, an area is only OB if the tournament director clearly states beforehand that it is.

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                    • #11
                      For the Chick Flick dubs fundraiser on Saturday we deemed the swap to be casual water. I agree it is not clearly defined. Plus it is not really a permanent body of water soon it will be dried up, and a moot point.

                      Cindy
                      Next Adventure Flight Crew Member
                      2013 Chick Flick co-TD
                      Stumptown #176
                      PDGA #37716

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Adam Schneider View Post
                        ...which means...?
                        oh, for heaven's sake... you know what that means.
                        "'There are two mantras.,' Bernard said, 'Yum and yuk. Mine is yum.'"
                        Tom Robbins, Still Life With Woodpecker

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by frizbeerose View Post
                          oh, for heaven's sake... you know what that means.
                          No, I didn't know what it meant, for OB purposes. I don't play in tournaments.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Adam Schneider View Post
                            No, I didn't know what it meant, for OB purposes. I don't play in tournaments.
                            oh... my bad... thought you were being facetious...

                            ... me, i was being facetious.

                            peace,
                            em

                            "'There are two mantras.,' Bernard said, 'Yum and yuk. Mine is yum.'"
                            Tom Robbins, Still Life With Woodpecker

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                            • #15
                              Just another thought. I think it should be OB to give players incentive to stay out of the swamp. I could see some trouble there on busy days with people tromping trough the swamp and causing some possible back ups and near misses. A lot of the times a players 2nd shot is blind coming over the hill and could easily hit someone searching for a disc in the swamp.

                              I deserved to lose I played pretty poorly, I was just wondering how you all played it.

                              Also sorry for all the typos in OP I was on the way out the door and didn't proof read.

                              Thanks for the input.

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