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  • ScottW
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    Upcoming Cherry Hill work

    Post #1 by JackW

    I received a call from Monte at CdA Parks Dept. to see if we could provide someone to meet with their arborist (tree expert) at Cherry Hill as they plan some "fire smart" pruning and clearing. They want input from disc golfers to let them know what would be helpful to the disc golf course. I will be meeting them there Friday morning at 8:00 a.m. If anyone else wants to join us, feel free to show up. I will also solicit input at league tomorrow night, to get some ideas to pass on to the City. The Parks Dept. is also working on renewing the tee sponsorships for Cherry Hill for another 3 year period. Monte said that some of the money they raise could be used to improve more teepads at Cherry Hill. I will also run the idea by him of altering the course to improve safety and flow of play. We need to alleviate the congestion at holes #2, 4 and 8.

    Post #2 by JackW

    Ben Squires and I met with the City of CdA folks at Cherry Hill Friday morning and walked the hillside with them. Monte from the Parks Dept. was there, along with Karen who is the Arborist (tree expert) with the City, and Steve who is in charge of the Fire Smart programs in the area. Not sure what agency he works for. Their plan is to open up the main forested areas by 1) removing brush that is over 1' tall, 2) thinning trees that are less than 6" in diameter, to a spacing of about 5' between trees, and 3) limb the larger trees of branches within 10' of the ground. All cut wood will be immediately chipped on location and evenly spread for a nice ground cover. The overall purpose is to protect against wildfire that can spread quickly along the ground in heavy brush, and then up into the tree canopy through low lying branches. What we will end up with is a very open look to the park, with sight lines through the trees where now you have dense woods. It sounds to me to be similar to what I heard was done at the Timberbeast course in Troy, Montana.

    It seems to me that it will actually be an oportunity for great improvements to the Disc golf course: 1) It will open up existing fairways by removing a lot of small clutter while leaving all the larger trees as obstacles more like Corbin. 2) It will eliminate the dense thickets of small trees that put a disc golfer "in jail" with no options but to hack their way out. 3) It will open up the middle-upper section of the Park that is now unusable and reveal opportunities for new pin placements for some existing holes, and very likely provide space for some totally new holes. This could be the key to replacing holes #4 and #8 without going outside the park boundaries.

    The City is very willing to work with the disc golf community to improve the course. They gave us some blue flagging ribbon so we can mark any trees that we think should not be removed (ones protecting teepads from errantly thrown discs, etc). The Fire Smart project does not incorporate the entire park, but the City is more than willing to have Parks staff do some limbing for us in other areas on request such as to remove some low branches on hole #3 fairway, etc. Monte is very open to a redesign of the course after the Fire Smart work is done, and he himself suggested that maybe he should hold off on having any new tee signs made for the new sponsors until we complete plans for any changes to the course. I did throw out an offer that the Club could help with a new overlay for the main sign board if we drastically alter the course. Another thought that Monte mentioned is that they would like to do some improvements to teepads (levelling) and pathways with some of the funds they will receive from course sponsors this time around. Overall I think it will be a big plus for the disc golf course.


    Now would be a good time to provide feedback to the NIDGC so we can work with the city to make some positive changes to a mediocre disc golf course.

  • Rapid Fire Jack
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    CdA Press article

    It was a very nice write-up in the CdA Press, but I should point out that they made one typo error: The writer referred to me as a "fanatic disc golfer", when she obviously meant to say "a Fantastic disc golfer."

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  • ScottW
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    Well, I tried calling Brook (the reporter from the CDA Press who wrote the article) back on Monday to no avail. The Press's system of callback is pretty poor. Regardless, it looks as though she was able to finish the story without my input anyway and here's a link to the story:

    http://www.cdapress.com/news/local_n...b65fac23d.html

    Regardless of what players think of the changes after all is said and done the new level teepads will be super nice - some of the nicest around - and the coolest part about the whole process is that despite some differences of opinion all of the NIDGC worked really well together to get this taken care of and the city of Coeur d'Alene has been good to work with as well. Big thanks again to everyone who has already helped with this project and those who will continue to see this to fruition. Nice work NIDGC, way to represent your club and sport well

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  • ScottW
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    The reporter also called me wanting to ask my opinion on the matter as well and I have not contacted her back yet I will try to contact her on Monday if it is not too late too see if I can lend my assistance since she has already spoke with Ben. Should be interesting to see.

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  • Rapid Fire Jack
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    news coverage for Cherry Hill

    Ben Squires was contacted by someone from the CdA Press interested in writing about the improvements to the disc golf course at Cherry Hill. They were going to meet at the course for some photos and an interview yesterday. Also on Tuesday I had a voicemail from Monte at the CdA Parks Dept. asking if we had a picture of a disc golfer in action at Cherry Hill that they could post on the city's website. Ben emailed me a nice photo today and I've sent it to Monte. Anxious to see what kind of article shows up in the newspaper as a result of Ben's interview. I think the same reporter called Rapid Fire today seeking more info on Cherry Hill.

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  • ScottW
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    Those tee pads are gonna be bad@$$. I think when Cherry Hill is done it will have the nicest tee pads outside of Farragut SP, maybe nicer, who knows? They look awesome. Glad I was able to make it out today to lend a hand and to see what had already been done. Making some real nice progress. Can't wait to play it after all this hard work is done.

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  • Rapid Fire Jack
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    progress report

    Had a spectacular December day for working outside today, and Scott Wardian, Ben Squires, Geoff Carr and myself "nailed down" several more tee frames. We completed fastening #6 and added one more step off the front, fastened down #4 (the big guy!), as well as #11, #12, and #13. The only ones left are #18 to be unstacked and pinned in place, and #16 - which we scoped out and planned for levelling. Ben and Geoff will try to get the timbers placed for #16 in the coming week. Don't know if we'll get back out with the generator right away, or just wait til spring thaw to fasten those two. Next step will be backfill and gravel, and that will have to wait til spring.
    Oh yeah - thanks also to Caylen VanZandt who showed up and helped Ben and I finish #11 at the end of the day.

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  • tomw
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    Thanks for the hard work Jack, Ben, Geoff, Aaron , Chris , Brian, Kris , Mason,etc
    Last edited by tomw; December 17th, 2011, 09:55 PM.

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  • Rapid Fire Jack
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    Weather outlook still favorable

    Ben, Geoff, Mason Healy and I put in a couple hours this afternoon. Got a late start due to having to run and get a backup generator, but we dug, set and fastened the timbers for the new tee at #5, and drilled and fastened the timbers for new tee #3, so both are ready for backfill. Also moved all the spare timbers from various tees to the tees where they will be needed. Will continue this Saturday with drilling and fastening timbers for teepad frames. The only tee left with any digging to do for 6x6 timbers is #16 (old #15), and that only needs about 3 timbers set in place.

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  • Rapid Fire Jack
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    progress report

    Amazing what you can get done with just a few dedicated volunteers. We have now completed setting the 6x6 timbers to level tees for #3, #4, #6, #11, #12, #13, #15, #17, and #18 !!!!!. One more work party scheduled for this Wednesday at 1:00. I think that will be all we can squeeze in before the winter weather really hits. We'll be in great shape to finish the new course quickly once the ground thaws in the spring. Kudos to Ben Squires, Geoff Carr, Aaron Anderson, Chris Chase, Brian Johnston, Kris Cummings, and Cody Hixson - who have accomplished all this.

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  • ScottW
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    Thanks for all the hard work guys. I am trying to make a time happen that will work for me to get out there and help - because I really do want to help - but so for that last few and next few weekends I have had plans in advance. I'm sure I'll be able to help before all is said and done. I am looking forward to seeing what has happened already out there and what's to come.

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  • Rapid Fire Jack
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    Today's progress report

    Had another good turnout today with Ben Squires, Geoff Carr, Chris Chase, Aaron Anderson and myself. We have now completed tees #4, 6, 11, 12, 13, 15, and 17, and got started on #18. Ben, Geoff and Aaron plan to work again tomorrow! This thing is shaping up fast! I'm glad we ended up using the pressure treated 6x6's instead of railroad ties. They do look much nicer, and are way easier to work with. We encountered 3 or 4 inches of frozen ground, but overall it wasn't too bad digging. We've been very fortunate with the weather.

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  • Rapid Fire Jack
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    Work update

    Ben Squires once again led the charge and was joined today by myself, Cody Hixson, Chris Chase and Geoff Carr. We got two new tees formed up with timbers: #15 and #17. Ready for some fill dirt and gravel in the spring. I was able to borrow a generator from a friend at the last minute, so didn't need to rent one. Should be able to use it for future work parties. Now that we've got several people who are familiar with the plan, they can independentlty go out with small groups and continue the work. It definitely will be an extended process to complete it all, but will sure be nice when it's done.

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  • Rapid Fire Jack
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    Update on Cherry Hill redesign

    I met with 3 reps from the CdA Parks Dept at Cherry Hill on thursday Dec. 1. we walked the course and reviewed the revised layout and the requested pruning/limbing/tree removal to accommodate the changes. Here's a rundown on the results: Hole #1 - they are open to the concept of an elevated peninsula. Their preference would be a steep but mowable slope around it. I expressed a preference for a rock retainer for a more unique and challenging feature. They will give it some thought. Hole #2 - they prefer not to move the teepad any closer to the Memorial. suggesed leaving it where it is and bringing the #8 teepad back. Should work. Ben came up with a great suggestion later: reverse the numbering of those two holes. The new #8 would become #2. The old #2 would become the new #8. I think it would flow better, keeping #8 players from walking across other basket areas. Hole #3 and #4- they are okay with as requested. Hole #5 - okay as proposed. Open to possibility of some limited pruning to open more of a lane if we want a longer pin placement to the left and uphill into the trees. Hole #6 - The initial tee work is infringing on the road embankment. Needs to move away from the road a bit. Okay with limbing low branches in front of tee. Hole #7 - no discussion. Ben later requested limbing of lower branches within putting range of basket, for drives/upshots that go long. Hole #8 - see notes for Hole #2. One tree removal or limbing to be decided after tee and basket are in place. Hole #9 - okay to use slab. Will limb branches by teepad. Will remove only a portion (right third) of lilac hedge below old #9 tee. Still gives a good fairway opening. Hole #10 - Willing to remove 3 trees for the new pin placement to the right, but changed the selection, leaving one healthy tree in the middle. Still leaves a wide gap, but with the single tree as a potential obstacle. As Ben said - even if you hit that tree, you'll still have a putt. Hole #11 - okay with new tee closer to corner. Hole #12 - move tee slightly left so tree in question can be just limbed up rather than removed. Hole #13 - They are okay with removing the 3 small trees to open a throwing lane to the right off the tee. Reluctant to removing all we requested for the tight shot across the ravine. For that, they will trim back a portion of the first bush but not remove it; in the gully, they will remove only the right tree of the two we requested, but will limb up the other tree, plus another tree further right. We will need to move the pin placement 10 or 12 feet to the right to align with the opening that will be provided. Hole #14 - no discussion. Will need some minor limbing for the new long basket position, but should be no problem. Hole #15 - After new tee is set they will look at what minor clearing needs to be done. Hole #16 - after new pin placement is in on far side of ravine, they will look at limbing low branches as needed. Hole #17 - okay with removal of one bush near new pin placement. Ben later suggested making the second basket placement left of the existing pin rather that right of it, providing a much different shot through an existing alleyway. Hole #18 - will do limited limbing as needed after basket placements are established. Practice Putting basket needs to be located where they planned it - to the right of tee #1, toward the tennis courts. Overall the City Parks Dept. is very cooperative. The changes were all relatively minor and sought to retain a good design for the Disc Golf layout.

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  • Rapid Fire Jack
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    Yes, actually, Ben has asked to get started doing some levelling of teepad sites, and it sounds like he has a couple helpers lined up. Also Chris Chase, Cody Hixson, Brian Johnston, and Aaron Anderson have added their names to the volunteer list at Rapid Fire, so we have a small core of people to call on. You've put in a good chunk of time at both Cherry Hill and Corbin, Tom, so I say don't feel bad about letting some others get their hands dirty on this project. It will be an extended process over the next several months and lots of people will need to get involved. Many hands make light work, as they say.

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