2013

[olydiscgolf]

Team Captains and players,

Its time to get things started for WA TDG 2013!

First, I would like to thank Sam Huff for all of his help in developing WATDG over the off season and over the years. I feel like we have a very streamlined system in place, and we would not be where we are today if it wasn't for Sam!

Second, I would like to thank all of the powers that be for allowing us to use all of the courses for WATDG 2013 free of charge! As a fundraiser league, its important for us to be able to give a "difference making" donation to a couple of deserving courses. This would not be possible without the support of the local clubs and course decision makers.

Third, let me thank all of you that are returning as Team Captain this year. Continuity is key to the success of WATDG.

Fourth, I would like to thank all of the new Captains for stepping up for their teams! I appreciate the fact that everybody here has a history with WATDG, it's much easier to get everybody on the same page with the process if they have been around it all ready.



We will be making few small changes to the system this year, most of which is designed to make the job of data entry as easy as possible. I will go over a couple of the major changes here, but please refer to the website http://www.watdg.com/ and familiarize yourselves with all of the rules and schedule for WATDG.

1) The biggest change will be the increase in points for doubles matches, the dubs matches will now be worth two points. It really just makes sense that two players are playing on a team, they should each be playing for a point. It also makes the scoring easier, as there wont be any 1/4 points for doubles ties.

2) The second change that you will notice is the scoring sheet that we will be using. It will be the same sheet that we used last year, except there will be an additional space to write in the players round score. This will make the data entry side of things expedited as all of the player info will be in the same order as it is in the spreadsheet that we use online. Basically, as a captain, you will be responsible for turning in the round rating sheet at the end of the day. The info that will be on the sheet is A) Player score for each round B) Player w/l/t for each round. C) Team points for each round. It is going to be EXTREMELY important to fill out the rating sheets clearly and accurately. I will be going over the rating sheets in detail at our first match.

3) We have changed the team dues to $200 per team. Roster changes will still cost an additional $25.

4) Please have rosters finalized and turned into me along with players rating no later than Sunday the 23rd of December. Team dues will be due at the FIRST event. Also, please make sure your players are current with the PDGA. We utilize their rating system and it helps keep rating consistent.





The Schedule for WATDG will be as follows:



Jan 6th Lakewood Feb 24th Course TBD

Jan 13th WhiteRiver Mar 10th Seatac

Jan 27th Kitsap Mar 24th Riverside

Feb 10th Steilly Apr 7th Shelton Springs







Thanks Captains, I'm looking forward to another great season of WATDG!




Chris Gilberts

Commissioner

[REDFIVE]

Jan 6th Lakewood

Jan 13th WhiteRiver

Jan 27th Kitsap

Feb 10th Steilly

Feb 24th Course TBD

Mar 10th Seatac

Mar 24th Riverside

Apr 7th Shelton Springs

[LJ Jubner]

The Moose is most defenitly loose.

Aaron Holley, Pistol Pete Land, Erik Illg, Rolly, Mark Yarmek, new boys Dan Major and Kenny Clark and our insurance Jim O

The Moose motto

Screw the handicaps we are just going to kick your ass

Chris is it going to be possible to play the teams we did not play last year?
You guys, Outs, Wickers, Sounders Sumo because we got stormed out and Riverside becasue of the forfeits

[maco capo]

I hope team MACO doesn't screwed again this year and get stuck playin team Oly. Hippies that can't afford to buy their own cigarettes or alcohol are only so much fun. And by so much fun I mean no fun at all. Hippies

[LakeStevensBA]

I hope team MACO doesn't screwed again this year and get stuck playin team Oly. Hippies that can't afford to buy their own cigarettes or alcohol are only so much fun. And by so much fun I mean no fun at all. Hippies

I have to agree....however I have noticed that not just Team Oly, but team MACO seem to find the back of my truck and suck all the bloody marys and margaritas dry. Actually, Team Jub (excluding Jub) makes a pretty big dent in the mobile liquor store. At least Team Oly traded me a PBR light last year for the margaritas.

Go Team Golf!

Sincerely,
Brian (Team Way Outs....as in thanks to Team Oly, MACO, and the Moose Team, we are Way Out of beer and tequila).

:cheers:

[Lund]

Pardon my voyeurism* from across the river but,



1) The biggest change will be the increase in points for doubles matches, the dubs matches will now be worth two points. It really just makes sense that two players are playing on a team, they should each be playing for a point. It also makes the scoring easier, as there wont be any 1/4 points for doubles ties.


I love this idea. It will definitely add a wrinkle to the strategery.

*Don't worry the Gilberts enjoy an audience from time to time

[olydiscgolf]

The schedule is out..... Looks like Team Oly is matched up against the Way Outs at every single event this year! Looks like team Maco got left off the schedule....



PS. I like top shelf Bourbon

[TYVEK]

The schedule is out..... Looks like Team Oly is matched up against the Way Outs at every single event this year! Looks like team Maco got left off the schedule....



PS. I like top shelf Bourbon

that top shelf stuff is too pricey! i just about lost my brisket when i saw how much a bottle of that basil haydens goes for!!

by the time team golf comes around i should be able to wrangle up some low-mid shelf stuff for you!:whistler: from my perspective i am thinking a bit of the old "quantity over quality" might just do the trick.:cheers:

we will save all the floor level stuff for the way outs. :seeya:

[LJ Jubner]

Ty don't waste your money on TDG Booze hounds Buy the good bottle for you drink it and then fill the good bottle with 10 high

[Rolly]

The Moose motto, Screw the handicaps we are just going to kick your ass

:slapface:

...Too much Rocky IV over the offseason coach?

[TYVEK]

Ty don't waste your money on TDG Booze hounds Buy the good bottle for you drink it and then fill the good bottle with 10 high

heres the thing................. i dont drink. am i still allowed to play disc golf???? :biggrin2:

[olydiscgolf]

heres the thing................. i dont drink. am i still allowed to play disc golf???? :biggrin2:

....but you do make one hell of a good moonshine. I think you can play!

[LJ Jubner]

....but you do make one hell of a good moonshine. I think you can play!

Yeah My eye sight finally returned

[TYVEK]

Yeah My eye sight finally returned

isnt that something else that youve been doing that causes blindness!
i have noticed you have a strong grip there Jub.:shocked::biggrin2:

[matt]

^^^^^^ha ha ha ha

[Discgolfingkilmers]

The steily team is tired of winning and is looking for some new players to play on the team. We have a rule to be on the team you must be a club member and helped at the course with work parties and or tournaments. please send me a pm if you are interested

[Yardbird]

As you know or not know, the February 24th TDG date doesn't have a course assigned to it.

"Feb 24th Course TBD"

Are there any courses (not in the 2013 current line-up) that you would like see used for the February 24th date?

Please chime in and let the TDG staff know. The TDG staff has a course in mind and approved to use by the local club, but we want to hear from the players.

Go Team West Sound

[TYVEK]

As you know or not know, the February 24th TDG date doesn't have a course assigned to it.

"Feb 24th Course TBD"

Are there any courses (not in the 2013 current line-up) that you would like see used for the February 24th date?

Please chime in and let the TDG staff know. The TDG staff has a course in mind and approved to use by the local club, but we want to hear from the players.

Go Team West Sound

I have always enjoyed NAD park, but bud pell would be good also (apart from the swamp land) i think either of those courses would be good to play for the 24th.

[maco capo]

I vote for terrace creek

[Yardbird]

NAD Park is one good option (last used in 2011)

Bud Pell (used in 2012)

Terrace Creek (last used in 2010)

Fennwick?

Woodland Creek Park (not enough holes)?

A Temp course that a club is willing to set-up for TDG?

[matt]

I would be very happy with NAD

[matt]

NAD Park is one good option (last used in 2011)

Bud Pell (used in 2012)

Terrace Creek (last used in 2010)

Fennwick?

Woodland Creek Park (not enough holes)?

A Temp course that a club is willing to set-up for TDG?

where is/or is there another name for, fennwick?

[Yardbird]

Lake Fenwick in located in the Auburn/Federal Way area.

Click here for review. (http://www.dgcoursereview.com/course.php?id=369)

There are probably better options, but it is a course that hasn't been used for TDG.

[guitodd]

Fenwick is an AWESOME course............on a dry day. This is probably the worst course to play in washington on a rainy day. Very very slick when wet and parking will be a problem for 60 plus people. The locals there have done such good work over the last few years they deserve a go at it anyways. Im in. Shut your mouth Gilby!!!!!;)

[matt]

i have not played most of the courses on the schedule.
so if someone wants to meet up in the next couple weeks (i'm not working right now)
and play some of them with me (aka tour guide) let me know

matt c.

[SPIDER-DAN]

Im thinking first either terrace creek or bud pell would be the best options. Nad would be good to.........just like the other two options better. I would not pick lake fenwick only due to how the course would get during the wet season and also the limited parking.

The only other option would be a temp course like we did at cedar arms past shelton springs..........that was way super cool.

[Yardbird]

A temp course would be super cool.

If only someone or club would step up to make it happen.

[maco capo]

Don't tempt me

[matt]

Don't tempt me

Do it

[Yardbird]

maco capo,

I know you guys can pull it off. A temp course would be awesome and would fit with the spirit of team disc golf.

If you need any help, Team West Sound could help supply some baskets and help in set up.

[maco capo]

I'm looking in to it

[Yardbird]

Captains,

Please submitt your team roster so the website and Players' Handicaps can be calculated for the first event.

Team roster shall be submitted by Christmas. :cop:

[Yardbird]

Team Captains,

Where are the rosters?

Only half of the rosters have been turned in.

Christmas is only a week a way...................

[Yardbird]

FYI, the Washington Team Disc Golf website is up to date with lots of info about the upcoming season.

WATDG Website (http://www.watdg.com/)

[matt]

Team Captains,

Where are the rosters?

Only half of the rosters have been turned in.

Christmas is only a week a way...................
they all probably have a bunch of guys backing out
because they found out i am going to play for oly
nothing like getting your ass whipped by a noob:biggrin2:

[maco capo]

they all probably have a bunch of guys backing out
because they found out i am going to play for oly
nothing like getting your ass whipped by a noob:biggrin2:

Careful rookie. Team Oly notoriously takes last place every year. With you on the team, I'm sure the trend will continue! Zing!

[TYVEK]

Careful rookie. Team Oly notoriously takes last place every year. With you on the team, I'm sure the trend will continue! Zing!

LOL, we were just talking about this last night at our meeting. and we discussed with pride mind you that we have never been last place! Hey, Matt is our ringer! team oly is organized and ready this season, hey we actually had a meeting this year!! :laughing: dont worry, you wont be laughing so much when you have to hand out 20some strokes when playing us.:chinscratch: :slapface: DOH.

[matt]

no matter what
W-T-or L
I got a sweet new Package Express/Team Oly hoodie sweatshirt

[matt]

Team Captains,

Where are the rosters?

Only half of the rosters have been turned in.

Christmas is only a week a way...................

2 days away
did chainbangers get their rosters in?
this is getting close

[matt]

A temp course would be super cool.

If only someone or club would step up to make it happen.

whats the word on this?

[matt]

Careful rookie. Team Oly notoriously takes last place every year. With you on the team, I'm sure the trend will continue! Zing!

maco (9th place) over oly (10th place) by .5 of a point last year
:rolleyes2: nice

[TYVEK]

you might want to watch your backside when playing the springs if your planning on wearing them pantyhose, we all know what kind of reputation that MCDG team carries around ( and it aint a pretty one!). :biggrin2::nahnah: this is also to be included on the record as being part of the official team disc golf smack talk.

one more thing, even though team oly MAY be comprised of the dreggs of society we still have standards and if we catch you trying to skulk around in womens underwear (again) you will be ousted from our illustrious team with your only option of wearing a collar and chain for the shelton team!

sorry buddy, but we must maintain some resemblance of social well being! :laughing::laughing: :cheers:
the resemblance that team MACO has is something along the lines of drunken men in cheerleaders outfits, hey team oly could use some good cheers guys!

and of course, all in good fun....................(sort of) :whistler:

[matt]

thats a great song
however there is no mention of cruising the course in them

[TYVEK]

thats a great song
however there is no mention of cruising the course in them

LOL, BA must not have heard, because i think that is Standard Operating Procedure for him on a friday night!:laughing: all in good fun.. remember.

[LakeStevensBA]

Merry Christmas to all my Team Disc Golf friends. Actually....never mind....I really don't have any.
So...to Todd Bates, Tyvek, Chris Gilberts, all of Jub's team, and everyone else.....Merry Fcking Christmas!

[LJ Jubner]

...all of Jub's team, .....Merry Fcking Christmas!

Your still mad because I signed Pete out of middle school.

[Rolly]

Your still mad because I signed Pete out of middle school.

Easy Coach... Might be too soon..

Happy New Year BA.

[olydiscgolf]

Merry Christmas to all my Team Disc Golf friends. Actually....never mind....I really don't have any.
So...to Todd Bates, Tyvek, Chris Gilberts, all of Jub's team, and everyone else.....Merry Fcking Christmas!

This really means a lot to me.

[BigBubbBelly]

Lake Stevens! Bring it on! Way Outs will spot you points on our home course! We're not scared, are you? Looking forward to many road trips over the mountains from sunny Yakima to come throw some bees with all my friends on the wet side if the state. Isn't there a special prize for most distance travelled to play a couple of rounds?

[Yardbird]

The team match-ups have been posted on the WATDG website.

Want to know who plays who in the first event?

Click here (http://www.watdg.com/schedule--match-ups.html)

[Yardbird]

The starting player handicaps should be up later today or tomorrow.

[olydiscgolf]

The team match-ups have been posted on the WATDG website.

Want to know who plays who in the first event?

Click here (http://www.watdg.com/schedule--match-ups.html)

Looking good Sammy!

[WestsoundBT]

Bring on two point doubles!

I'm interested to see if the 2 points changes team strategy right away from the first event

I'd love to see some slow play out of the doubles so the teams can come and gallery (intimidate) to finish off the day!

[LJ Jubner]

Thanks Guys for working this out. Unfortunately No wayouts on the schedule for the moose

[LakeStevensBA]

Thanks Guys for working this out. Fortunately, no Team Jub this year for the Wayouts. Just kidding...we will still park next to the sparticus moose so we can watch Pete trash his $150 rc car live.

We did get stuck playing team Oly and MaCo again. They are a bunch of bloody mary, margarita, and beer pilferers.

Happy New Year Team Disc golfers. Be safe this year. Wear a condom when playing Team Oly.

[maco capo]

. Wear a condom when playing Team Oly.[/QUOTE]

It's gonna take a lot more than a rubber to keep you from catching what team Oly has

[olydiscgolf]

. Wear a condom when playing Team Oly.

It's gonna take a lot more than a rubber to keep you from catching what team Oly has[/QUOTE]

Bates told me he was tested....

[maco capo]

Bates told me he was tested....[/QUOTE]

Ya, but he didn't tell you it was positive

[guitodd]

I thought positive ment, "good". Damn Mayans

[matt]

The starting player handicaps should be up later today or tomorrow.

So I have had 4 different rating numbers since we started (no PDGA)
(Starting, 1 from Lakewood, and 2 from Whiteriver)
Is it as simple as an average of the 4?
Or is there more voodoo involved?
If its not that easy, forget I asked.

[LJ Jubner]

add the 4 together and then divide it by 4

If you spent more time on actual play then hot stove conversations your rating will take care of it's self

[matt]

I have had 4 different rating numbers


Is it as simple as an average of the 4?
add the 4 together and then divide it by 4

so, the short answer is....yes

thanks jub

[TYVEK]

If you spent more time on actual play then hot stove conversations your rating will take care of it's self

ok, what is a "hot stove conversation"? the only time i have conversations about stoves is when i am talking about hiking.

[matt]

ok, what is a "hot stove conversation"? the only time i have conversations about stoves is when i am talking about hiking.

when the power goes out, my wood stove gets hot, and we have conversations about it?

[olydiscgolf]

ok, what is a "hot stove conversation"? the only time i have conversations about stoves is when i am talking about hiking.

I think he is referencing your "3 piece suit" comments.... seems as close to "hot stove" as it gets!

[LJ Jubner]

A Hot stove topic is something that can be discussed adnausium next to a hot stove all winter long

[LakeStevensBA]

I have heard of a Hot Carl and a Dutch Oven...but not a hot stove. This must be an Oly thing...

[TYVEK]

I think he is referencing your "3 piece suit" comments.... seems as close to "hot stove" as it gets!

aahhhhh, jub i didnt know that you and Sillybizz did the hot stove together!:laughing:

[Yardbird]

Ratings answer.....

Short answer: Yes, average the player's round ratings.

Long answer: It can get hard to explain/understand for players that have a PDGA rating and/or round ratings that are more than 60 points below their Handicap. If you really want to know how a player's handicap is calculated ask me in person at a TDG event.

[matt]

im ok with the short answer for now
later in the series when i get bored and have run out of other questions i will give you a quiz on the big calculations

[matt]

Thanks to all the team captains, olydiscgolf, yardbird, lj jubner, and everyone else that was involved to make team golf happen.
Your work and time spent on Team golf is greatly appreciated.

I had a very good time and hope to see all of you around this summer.

[LJ Jubner]

1 Team Surprise 8
v
2 Fenwick 4

3 Team Kitsap 7
v
4 Stelli Infantry 5

5 Bangerz 9
v
6 Riverside 3

7 White River 8
v
8 Stelli Artillery 4

9 MACO 7
v
10 Moose 5

11 West Sound 6.5
v
12 Way Outs 5.5

[matt]

Careful rookie. Team Oly notoriously takes last place every year. With you on the team, I'm sure the trend will continue! Zing!

:nahnah:

[Yardbird]

Final 2013 Player Handicaps are posted on the TDG website.