Grand Opening - Blue Lake Park

[Bullseye]

Well folks...

This is it. The grand opening for the disc golf course at Blue Lake Park is tomorrow at 11:00am.

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If possible, come on out and join us as we cut the ribbon and open the course up for play. If you can't make it tomorrow, come on by when you can and enjoy the fruit of many, many hours of hard work.

On behalf of Stumptown Disc Golf and Next Adventure, I would like to thank the following people for hours and hours of hard work and dedication to this project. Without their help this would have been an almost impossible task.

Tyler Christensen
Carl Thorne
Kevin Mykelz
Murray Prictor
Josh Dearing
Jeremy Fancher
Bryan Knudsen


A lot of people have showed up to our work parties and I am very thankful for that, but these guys went above and beyond the call of duty. Hopefully, every time they walk into Blue Lake Park they feel the sense of pride they deserve for helping to make it happen.

[Matt B.]

Congratulations to Stumptown, Portland Metro, and all the volunteers who worked to install this course! You guys are a great example of what a club can do and have been killing it with the course installation the last few years. I hope to play Blue Lake sometime soon! :cheers:

[Adam Schneider]

What's the parking situation? Should people use the main lots on the west side of the road, $5 per car?

[Bullseye]

Yes, there is a section of parking inside the park, just across the crosswalk from hole 1 where disc golfers will be parking. Yes, it will be $5 per car for parking, but an annual pass will be available soon.

[Fancher_503]

Yes, there is a section of parking inside the park, just across the crosswalk from hole 1 where disc golfers will be parking. Yes, it will be $5 per car for parking, but an annual pass will be available soon.

I believe you can buy them now here
http://www.oregonmetro.gov/index.cfm/go/by.web/id=160

and do we have an updated course map link Jeff?

[Bullseye]

I believe you can buy them now here
http://www.oregonmetro.gov/index.cfm/go/by.web/id=160

and do we have an updated course map link Jeff?

Thanks Jeremy.

I'll try to get a current course map uploaded tonight when I get home. Probably won't be until pretty late though. I've got a few baskets to assemble :)

[Adam Schneider]

Annual passes are $40 for the first car, and $10 for additional vehicles (no more than two additional) in the same household.

[LegoRules]

Annual passes are $40 for the first car, and $10 for additional vehicles (no more than two additional) in the same household.

I emailed metro this morning, and a pass purchased today is only good until 12/31/12 fyi.

Cindy :)

[Rakoz]

I was out there this weekend and it was looking awesome. Can't wait to see the course map and to play my first round there! Anyone guess how long your average round is going to take there?

Thank you thank you thank you to everyone who put in the time and effort to make this happen. Keep us posted on work parties and keep coming out to work parties (by the way... these guys mean business. If you show up late they might be done with that days tasks! I found that one out the hard way)

[Darr]

I am starting my vacation tomorrow, might have to make the trek back from centralia to play the course. Thanks to all of the volunteers, havent had a lot of free time with the new baby. What is the course par?

[Rakoz]

I've heard everything from 69 to 84. When Jeff was looking at the signs Saturday I think he said 72.

[Bullseye]

I've heard everything from 69 to 84. When Jeff was looking at the signs Saturday I think he said 72.

I'm pretty sure its right around a par 69.

Jeff

[spectralmonkey]

can we go play today? ;)

[Bullseye]

can we go play today? ;)

Sure, just putt at those little sticks in the ground :p

[spectralmonkey]

maybe we will wait... we are so excited!

[Snoopy]

maybe we will wait... we are so excited!

Do you have any photos?

[jdinteg]

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-pZYhcIcKCOw/UCs1bgO2buI/AAAAAAAAB9o/Tw8jPbjipm8/w497-h373/IMG_20120814_194931.jpg

[jdinteg]

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-7y-E6DXqr8Q/UCs1bov0j0I/AAAAAAAAB9o/DKoznT6fEmk/w497-h373/IMG_20120814_185545.jpg

[jdinteg]

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-_qS5RMZdHM0/UCs1bgzzFhI/AAAAAAAAB9o/jeHyM59GAhc/w497-h373/IMG_20120814_204114.jpg

[jdinteg]

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-0JjGQDDwCGQ/UCs1bhzT7ZI/AAAAAAAAB9o/ZCiJ3aOc6WU/w497-h373/IMG_20120814_171712.jpg

[jdinteg]

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-ebFvx28J28E/UCs1btSQ0xI/AAAAAAAAB9o/WeyLgDh7jnM/w497-h373/IMG_20120814_194851.jpg

[Rakoz]

I'm pretty sure its right around a par 69.

Jeff

Well, You would certainly know. That's going to be one tough Par to make! I plan on leaving work at SE Powell at 5pm and playing till I'm done or till the sunsets. Anyone else heading out around that time?

[LegoRules]

BTW no dogs & no alcohol allowed in Blue Lake Park including the disc golf course.

[TreeLove]

Is it OK to park at the nearby (http://library.oregonmetro.gov/files//12204_blue_lake_map_handout_crossmkt_pes.pdf)Lake House? Is that a valid way to avoid the parking fee? Are there other places to park for free? Or must we park in the pay lot?

How strict is the No Pets policy? I was just at Lowe's last night. The sign on the door says "Service Animals Only," but I asked an employee, and he said I could bring Bailey into the store. I did, she was great, and made a lot of friends.

This article (http://www.oregonmetro.gov/index.cfm/go/by.web/id=161) would suggest it is QUITE strict. It appears the policy is in place primarily to protect wildlife. I can understand that: the last squirrel Bailey got her chompers on lived only about 12 seconds.

Keeping dogs on a leash would seem to solve that problem, though. The article says they tried a leash rule, but people did not abide by it. And they did not pick up their dogs' crap. Sounds like age old scenario of a few douchebags ruining things for everyone else.

Any informed answers to these parking- and pet-related questions will be greatly appreciated.

[Rakoz]

Looks pretty cut and dry to me: No dogs.

About avoiding $5: We're talking about the premium course on the west coast maybe the United States, and one of the best in the world! Here, in our own backyard (or just over the river and through the woods); or at least it will be soon. Without those fees we're not going to get there though and without an increase in those fees we're likely to lose what sounds like amazing public park support. Carpool if it's an issue but if you're using this facility, pay something for it.

Playing late night, ignoring dog rules, drinking onsite, trash, destroying environment/habitat, smoking... all things that could easily ruin this amazing opportunity. There are parks to take your dog (and I've met Bailey and she's one of the better ones), there are free parks, there are parks where it is ok to drink, there are private courses to indulge in other behaviors, but if a public park is posting rules and making requests of us to use their space we have to abide by their wishes.

[Matt B.]

Is it OK to park at the nearby (http://library.oregonmetro.gov/files//12204_blue_lake_map_handout_crossmkt_pes.pdf)Lake House? Is that a valid way to avoid the parking fee? Are there other places to park for free? Or must we park in the pay lot?


:slapface::slapface::slapface::slapface:

[Dr. Zaius]

Wow. A HUGE thanks to Stumptown disc golf and all who were involved. Somebody please post as many pics of the fairways and holes as possible when you get the chance. We need to show the city of Eugene what a real course can look like when the entire community gets behind it. We've got some good things on the horizon down here and this looks like a wonderful model of community involvement and course planning.

Thank You Thank You Thank You!!!

[LegoRules]

Is it OK to park at the nearby (http://library.oregonmetro.gov/files//12204_blue_lake_map_handout_crossmkt_pes.pdf)Lake House? Is that a valid way to avoid the parking fee? Are there other places to park for free? Or must we park in the pay lot?

How strict is the No Pets policy? I was just at Lowe's last night. The sign on the door says "Service Animals Only," but I asked an employee, and he said I could bring Bailey into the store. I did, she was great, and made a lot of friends.

This article (http://www.oregonmetro.gov/index.cfm/go/by.web/id=161) would suggest it is QUITE strict. It appears the policy is in place primarily to protect wildlife. I can understand that: the last squirrel Bailey got her chompers on lived only about 12 seconds.

Keeping dogs on a leash would seem to solve that problem, though. The article says they tried a leash rule, but people did not abide by it. And they did not pick up their dogs' crap. Sounds like age old scenario of a few douchebags ruining things for everyone else.

Any informed answers to these parking- and pet-related questions will be greatly appreciated.

Gawain I specifically asked the park officials that were there those two questions. No to dogs on leash or off leash definitely no dogs at all.

You can not park at the Lake House. That parking area is only for special events. If you are driving to Blue Lake the only option is to pay the day fee, or purchase an annual pass.

Well worth it though this course is rad!! :trophy:


Cindy :)

["Over the Hill" Bob]

Looks pretty cut and dry to me: No dogs.

About avoiding $5: We're talking about the premium course on the west coast maybe the United States, and one of the best in the world! Here, in our own backyard (or just over the river and through the woods); or at least it will be soon. Without those fees we're not going to get there though and without an increase in those fees we're likely to lose what sounds like amazing public park support. Carpool if it's an issue but if you're using this facility, pay something for it.

Playing late night, ignoring dog rules, drinking onsite, trash, destroying environment/habitat, smoking... all things that could easily ruin this amazing opportunity. There are parks to take your dog (and I've met Bailey and she's one of the better ones), there are free parks, there are parks where it is ok to drink, there are private courses to indulge in other behaviors, but if a public park is posting rules and making requests of us to use their space we have to abide by their wishes.


Just worth reposting!
Bob:rockon:

[Matt B.]

Gawain I specifically asked the park officials that were there those two questions. No to dogs on leash or off leash definitely no dogs at all.

You can not park at the Lake House. That parking area is only for special events. If you are driving to Blue Lake the only option is to pay the day fee, or purchase an annual pass.

Well worth it though this course is rad!! :trophy:


Cindy :)

$5 a day, for all the people in a car, for as many rounds as you want, on a brand new and apparently awesome course brought to us by a strong partnership bewteen Stumptown and the biggest land managing agency in the Portland area.......uh yeah, I think we should pay the $5. And leave our dogs and alcohol at home...and follow the rest of the park rules.

[juda4936]

I have the 2 year parking pass (for McIver, Dabney..) will that work? or do they have one just for Blue Lake?

[Matt B.]

I have the 2 year parking pass (for McIver, Dabney..) will that work? or do they have one just for Blue Lake?

That's a State Park day use pass. Blue Lake is not a State park. I believe you want to visit Metro's website, and read the rest of this and the other Blue Lake thread for the info.

[LegoRules]

I have the 2 year parking pass (for McIver, Dabney..) will that work? or do they have one just for Blue Lake?

No Blue Lake is a regional park, and not a state park.

[Bullseye]

Is it OK to park at the nearby (http://library.oregonmetro.gov/files//12204_blue_lake_map_handout_crossmkt_pes.pdf)Lake House? Is that a valid way to avoid the parking fee? Are there other places to park for free? Or must we park in the pay lot?

How strict is the No Pets policy? I was just at Lowe's last night. The sign on the door says "Service Animals Only," but I asked an employee, and he said I could bring Bailey into the store. I did, she was great, and made a lot of friends.

This article (http://www.oregonmetro.gov/index.cfm/go/by.web/id=161) would suggest it is QUITE strict. It appears the policy is in place primarily to protect wildlife. I can understand that: the last squirrel Bailey got her chompers on lived only about 12 seconds.

Keeping dogs on a leash would seem to solve that problem, though. The article says they tried a leash rule, but people did not abide by it. And they did not pick up their dogs' crap. Sounds like age old scenario of a few douchebags ruining things for everyone else.

Any informed answers to these parking- and pet-related questions will be greatly appreciated.

I understand where you're coming from, but I would argue that since Metro just spent tens of thousands of dollars on this course for us that we support that effort by simply paying the $5.00 or by buying the annual pass for $40. If they immediately see a benefit from this project then the chances of us getting a chance to do this again somewhere will be that much better.

No pets. None. Please don't bring them. The last thing we want at this point is people ignoring the rules. Hopefully people will respect this park and its rules. If we do that... then we won't end up with another Columbia View situation

Jeff

[keith_shupp]

I went out today to the opening and cant believe I have a course about one mile from work and 3 miles from home. I would like to thank Jeff Hagerty,Stumptown, David Munk,Keen shoes and Next Adventure for all there hard work at getting this done. I would also like to thank Metro parks and all the people who were invold from Multnomah county,City of Fairview and the city of Gresham.

We must help prove to the county that we support what they have done for us. paying $5 will be a stepping stone to growing this course and getting more funding for the course. This is what help us build courses in the state parks in Oregon by paying the fee and coming out year around. I know that I will be more than happy to pay to play at a great course made by great people. I support the rule leave your dogs at home disc golfers dont belive in using a leash. I know there are a few who do use a leash but come on there are way to many who dont.

Thank you people very much.

P.S. Please dont burn Jeff Hagerty out he still has more work to do.

[InfamousButcher]

Haters are gonna hate but I thought this course was pure gold. It was brutal and challenging but we fought as hard as we could and managed to shave off a few strokes here and there. Some hole length and tall grass searching was mentally+physically straining. I think that this course will make everyone who frequents it a stronger and smarter golfer. Cant wait to see it evolve over the years. THANK YOU Jeff and everyone else who helped put this together. What a great milestone for Oregon DiscGolf.:trophy::rockon::trophy:

[ryanajanes]

course was really hard. i got sunburned pretty bad. had to look for at least 20 discs. got cut up by blackberries. HAD AN AWESOME TIME. awesome course lol

[Scott]

So, how rough is this course, exactly? I'm hearing lots of reports already on lost discs, tall grass, etc...

[Bullseye]

So, how rough is this course, exactly? I'm hearing lots of reports already on lost discs, tall grass, etc...

Keep it between the lines and you'll be fine. Don't... and ya won't.

[jdinteg]

The course is not rough, the rough is rough though! Lost 5-discs today. Learned on 5-holes how to throw my lines correctly next time. Still not sure the best technique on hole 17 yet. That hole is challenging.

[Darr]

Keep it between the lines and you'll be fine. Don't... and ya won't.

It also helps to have a guide with you :rockon: Good playing with you today Jeff, the discmosis definitely helped my round. Our group of four only lost one disc, Jeffs teerex looked like it barely entered the grass on the pump hole and we looked and looked to no avail :slapface:

[LegoRules]

It also helps to have a guide with you :rockon: Good playing with you today Jeff, the discmosis definitely helped my round. Our group of four only lost one disc, Jeffs teerex looked like it barely entered the grass on the pump hole and we looked and looked to no avail :slapface:

I went back and played an evening round with Gawain, Jordan, and James. What a frickin awesome foursome. :yay:

Anyway yay this course is brutal if you don't stay on the fairway. It will literally tear you up, and we have the blackberry scratches to prove it. Our group of four lost four discs, but we fournd 3 or 4 other discs while looking for ours.

Cindy :)

[NWDiscer]

scores???

[InfamousButcher]

+8 with 2 birdies on holes 4 & 5. 8 bogeys and 1 double ouch:slapface:

[runnaman]

I shot a +2 with no lost discs. Yay!!

[NWDiscer]

I shot a +2 with no lost discs. Yay!!


nice hukking Chase

[chris7graham]

I shot 2 rounds today, and they were both even par 69 :biggrin2::yay::yay:

[jdinteg]

I shot 2 rounds today, and they were both even par 69 :biggrin2::yay::yay:

Yes,
But did you lose any plastic?

[NWDiscer]

I shot 2 rounds today, and they were both even par 69 :biggrin2::yay::yay:


kickin old man rounds CG....:D

[Darr]

scores???

Mittl 64
Haggerty65
Harbour 66
Darr 71

[Bullseye Disc Golf.com]

OMG! Blue Lake really is the REAL DEAL!

This course is really the EPIC disc golf experience we've been waiting for.

Dave Feldberg's vision of this course was to create a WORLD CLASS GOLD course, that would challenge INTERNATIONAL professional disc golfers with a course that requires EVERY shot making scenario for a professional disc golfer to shoot well below par.

The hole designs are completely fair and all par 4's and par 5's require PLACEMENT GOLF in order to achieve par or better. There are multiple routes on most holes. This will be the course that coupled with Milo McIver, will elevate Oregon Disc Golf to the ELITE level of disc golf regions to be able to host World Class disc golf events.

This is a HEROIC ACHIEVEMENT for Stumptown Disc Golf and the relentless hard work of all the volunteers have truly made this course a cut above the rest and it will prove to be a LANDMARK in Oregon disc golf destinations.

My feeling initially was that this course would be too difficult but it's final layout is truly LEGIT enough of a design that a really good advanced Master can shoot par or below as this course truly rewards the type of golfer that emphasizes PLACEMENT in front of just RAW DISTANCE.

I can't express enough gratitude for all the volunteers and work party helpers that made this course possible. This course is going to be a huge success for Fairview Parks and will become the new benchmark for future courses.

As I said before, this course rewards the player that emphasizes PLACEMENT before distance.

The rough along the mowed fairways is really NASTY, so if you plan on SPRAYING drives all over the course, make sure you bring a lot of extra discs as you will most likely lose a lot of plastic in the rough. The rough along the fairways is just as NASTY and unforgiving as TROJAN so if you plan on throwing in the rough, make sure you have a lot of money to spend on replacing your lost discs.

[Fancher_503]

scores???

Won my card last night shooting 62 with 2 chainouts. i love this course! thanks to all that put in some work :)

[Scott]

Is a course map available? Is one needed?

[Bullseye]

Is a course map available? Is one needed?

Here is the best I can do from here at work:

It should work fine

[NWDiscer]

Mittl 64
Haggerty65
Harbour 66
Darr 71

Solid :shooting:


The Kenny,Dave,Will,Nikko & Nate's of this world will be what in the mid 50's?


Cant wait to get a round or 3 in here :rockon:

[Bullseye Disc Golf.com]

With all the rough roped off as OB with a penalty stroke in PDGA sanctioned play, would it be possible for the top pros to shoot a 55?

It would be interesting to see what a 1000 rated round would be with all rough designated OB penalty stroke. Any guesses?

[runnaman]

My guess is about 65 or 66

[Mcw5378]

I really want to check this course out!
But you guys are scaring the crap outta me!
I'll just have to go walk it first and see if I'm then comfortable playing it.

[fernhillphil]

This course is fantastic! Yes, the roughs are as bad as they sound; you will spend a lot of time looking for discs. But as others have said, if you stay on the fairways, you are more than fine. And the fairways are beautiful. Thank you to everyone that pitched in! I can't wait to help out at the next work party. I shot a +1 70 yesterday and was +2 after 14 when the park closed today.

This course is the real deal. Easily in the top 2 or 3 in the area, very likely #1 but too early to say. Anual pass? Sold.

[jdinteg]

I really want to check this course out!
But you guys are scaring the crap outta me!
I'll just have to go walk it first and see if I'm then comfortable playing it.

Nothing to be afraid of. I lost most of my plastic by going for it when I should have played smart. Take a bogey if your nervous, play a few rounds conservatively and bring a few disposable or less loved discs. Go for that out of your range birdie and lose a disc. Seems like a fair trade to me. If you do lose a disc someone will eventually call you. I called, and got a call today.

[fernhillphil]

^ speaking of...

I losted a very beloved disc today on hole 15, right as the park closed. It was my up shot after a solid drive, short of the hole about 50-100 feet. I threw a backhand hyzer short and thought it would be in the fairway but it must have just bounced into the rough and I ran out of daylight/time.

It is a black and yellow striped Wraith, self-dyed. The words say "Umphrey's McGee." It was probably the most camoflauged disc I could have thrown, oops. It was one of my first dyes and I would really like it back. Name and number are on the inside rim. Picture below:

http://tinypic.com/r/22x3bc/6

[fernhillphil]

*the disc has been returned!

[Pineapple]

My buddy's and I played last night after work. I am very impressed with all the hard work that everyone put into the course...THANK YOU!!! We didn't start till about 6, and made it to hole 16. Probably could have finished if we had not spent time searching for bad throws? We lost 3 discs, one per person. Red 2011 Oregon state championships Boss, a glow Destroyer, and a gold Halo. Name and numbers on the back. The best score was -3 through 15 holes. I can see a Top Pro shooting -10 on a good round?

[PDX_Stu]

Sounds like the park should install one of those cylindrical disc return bins.

[Scott]

Sounds like the park should install one of those cylindrical disc return bins.

A really large one.

[Maidenrules]

A really large one.

Someone needs to get a pro shop out there. It sounds like a cash cow.

[Bullseye]

Honestly, Blue Lake is NOT that hard if you simply play smart and only bite off what you can chew. However, get greedy and it is promptly going to teach you a lesson.

[PDX_Stu]

Can't you rent out grazing goats to clear out brush ?!?!?

[Bullseye]

Can't you rent out grazing goats to clear out brush ?!?!?

Sure. We could also mow the entire place... but the point is to make people think before throwing... not mindlessly huck discs without consequence. This course requires the same level of focus as a water course like Fountain Hills or Trojan... only you actually have a BETTER chance of getting your disc back after a terrible throw.

[james_the_kid]

Lost red xcal on the long one by the road with a pond in front of the basket.

[PDX_Stu]

Actually, It sounds like my type of course. Hope to play it soon. Thanks for the time and effort.

[jdinteg]

Hole 7 now has a fence in front of the pond. Talked to parks guys installing fence. Some jackass stripped down to his underwear and went in to get his plastic. We need to move the pin forward before the pond soon to avoid further struggles.

[Shankmaster]

Hole 7 now has a fence in front of the pond. Talked to parks guys installing fence. Some jackass stripped down to his underwear and went in to get his plastic. We need to move the pin forward before the pond soon to avoid further struggles.


No way! The pond makes 7 the tin cup hole.

[jdinteg]

Yep, truly epic. Will be a great location for competitions, may not be too good for everyday play though. I could see 3-4 discs in the bottom of the muck while they installed the fence.

[lankdogg]

Looks like the perfect morning to check it out. Here goes.....

[fernhillphil]

Hole 7 now has a fence in front of the pond. Talked to parks guys installing fence. Some jackass stripped down to his underwear and went in to get his plastic. We need to move the pin forward before the pond soon to avoid further struggles.

I dont think the pin should be moved forward. As is, #7 may very well be Blue Lake's signature hole. Move it forward, and it loses a lot of that character. If the park doesn't want people going in to retrieve discs, they should put a sign in front of the water that says "do not enter: disc will be removed and returned."

[jdinteg]

I dont think the pin should be moved forward. As is, #7 may very well be Blue Lake's signature hole. Move it forward, and it loses a lot of that character. If the park doesn't want people going in to retrieve discs, they should put a sign in front of the water that says "do not enter: disc will be removed and returned."

Hmm,
That sounds like a good idea, but unrealistic. IMHO, every course with water has stories of disc collectors reselling and not returning. That guy who throws his CE Eagle he's had for 10 years may still go after it, and apologize later. The only sure solution to lower the odds of lost plastic and neighborhood conflicts would be to use that hole as tournament only, and move it back, maybe to the left in a technical location. Still an amazing hole, still a signature hole. It would just be smart to not create conflict the 1st week Blue Lake opens up. If we don't continue partnering and compromising on the small things with Metro, we would be short sighted on the long term.

[lankdogg]

Not too shabby for a first round at a new park. Didnt lose a disc and finished under par. I have a feeling thats going to be the exception to the rule going forward however. As I get more comfortable out there, more errant shots will come,, lol. As far as the course goes..... I love it. It reminds me a bit of trojan when in champion layout, and thats one of my favorites. No matter what, I will be playing and assisting in its further development going forward without a doubt. Thanks too all who brought this about.

[fernhillphil]

Hmm,
That sounds like a good idea, but unrealistic. IMHO, every course with water has stories of disc collectors reselling and not returning. That guy who throws his CE Eagle he's had for 10 years may still go after it, and apologize later. The only sure solution to lower the odds of lost plastic and neighborhood conflicts would be to use that hole as tournament only, and move it back, maybe to the left in a technical location. Still an amazing hole, still a signature hole. It would just be smart to not create conflict the 1st week Blue Lake opens up. If we don't continue partnering and compromising on the small things with Metro, we would be short sighted on the long term.

What exactly is the problem with people going into the water to retrieve their discs? This had to have crossed the Park Management's minds before they ok'd the design. Is it because of this one guy who went in in his boxers? That probably won't be a regular occurance. No need to overreact to a water hazard and move the hole.

Played the course again today, I still love it. I am doing much better at avoiding the bad spots. 17 is still rediculous.

One concern is the gravel around the tee pads. It is getting on the concrete and making the pads kind of unsafe.

[jdinteg]

What exactly is the problem with people going into the water to retrieve their discs? This had to have crossed the Park Management's minds before they ok'd the design. Is it because of this one guy who went in in his boxers? That probably won't be a regular occurance. No need to overreact to a water hazard and move the hole.

Played the course again today, I still love it. I am doing much better at avoiding the bad spots. 17 is still ridiculous.

One concern is the gravel around the tee pads. It is getting on the concrete and making the pads kind of unsafe.

They built a fence around the pond on day #3, that tells you their reaction pretty clearly to: "probably won't be a regular occurance"

I fully agree 17 seems ridiculous, but that is another signature hole. I'm gonna take a little Hagerty advise next time on that hole and see if it works for me.

Several tee pads are turning to dust on the surface, they will be re-pouring those pads soon. I do like the gravel aprons around the pads, especially when it gets muddy this fall. I too have been sweeping the front of the pad with my feet before I throw. But I have never been to a course I didn't have to do that with, except maybe Lakewood with those expensive stamped concrete aprons they have.

[all2common]

Lost a glow wraith (chick flick stamp) and a glow sidewinder out there yesterday. Hole 15 I think. Name and number on both. Shot a 67.

[WavyLays]

Course was fun, thanks for all the hard work out there. The layout was a little wonky at spots and no numbers on the baskets, I just like a little piece of mind when I am throwing and can see 2 different baskets.

[HuckU]

Sprayed a little and had to do some searching, successful recon each time. Did not score as I hoped but tied best for the group and learned where to place the drives next time. Nice layout and not too extreme distance-wise, as it has been said placement is king. Thanks all for the efforts to get this park in, now lets start working on Vancouver/Camas area :yay:.

[Flash]

Do they allow alcohol in the park?
I heard from a reputable source with friends who live in the community surrounding Blue Lake that residents are already talking about the alcohol use on the course.

Do they provide trash cans on the course or is it pack it in pack it out?

[Scott]

No alcohol is allowed on the course.
I talked to two park employees on Sunday who were out picking up beer bottles (and other trash). They told me that garbage can are on the way, but they didn't know when.

[Arthur Chomparelli]

Don’t mess this up! :pullhair:

If there’s no alcohol allowed RESPECT the rules! And for F-sakes if you are going to break the rules, leave no trace and be discreet! Leaving beer bottles on ANY disc golf course is UNACCEPTABLE! PACK IT IN PACK IT OUT!

I helped Ty Baker and PhilStomp remove the baskets at Columbia View and it was a sad thing to see those baskets cut down.:headbang:

This is a course that will bring bigger and better tournaments (and more courses) to the area. The people who made this happen deserve better than D-Bags f-ing up what they worked so hard to make happen.

Nuff said!

[Bullseye]

Don’t mess this up! :pullhair:

If there’s no alcohol allowed RESPECT the rules! And for F-sakes if you are going to break the rules, leave no trace and be discreet! Leaving beer bottles on ANY disc golf course is UNACCEPTABLE! PACK IT IN PACK IT OUT!

I helped Ty Baker and PhilStomp remove the baskets at Columbia View and it was a sad thing to see those baskets cut down.:headbang:

This is a course that will bring bigger and better tournaments (and more courses) to the area. The people who made this happen deserve better than D-Bags f-ing up what they worked so hard to make happen.

Nuff said!

Thank you Chompy. Its a shame that we need to come here to repeatedly try to teach some common sense to people, but it looks like we might need to do just that.

We have an opportunity to show these people that we can be a great addition to the neighborhood. If we want to see this awesome course stay in the ground, we need to follow the rules. We need to be especially considerate of the homeowners in the neighborhood because their impressions of us are very important. We are guests at Blue Lake and we need to conduct ourselves as such.

The people who didn't take the homeowners at Columbia Park seriously have paid the price for that mistake. I hope the disc golf community does a better job at Blue Lake or we'll have the same result.

[NWDiscer]

Thank you Chompy. Its a shame that we need to come here to repeatedly try to teach some common sense to people, but it looks like we might need to do just that.

We have an opportunity to show these people that we can be a great addition to the neighborhood. If we want to see this awesome course stay in the ground, we need to follow the rules. We need to be especially considerate of the homeowners in the neighborhood because their impressions of us are very important. We are guests at Blue Lake and we need to conduct ourselves as such.

The people who didn't take the homeowners at Columbia Park seriously have paid the price for that mistake. I hope the disc golf community does a better job at Blue Lake or we'll have the same result.


Because no matter how much we "the forum" discers bytch and moan on here about the bottles and cans and trash in gen. it is not being left by us.....maybe if Metro places a sign on the kiosk with the cost of the fines for violating the rules.
NONE of these frikken idiots will pay attention maybe just have the Sheriff :cop: show up a few times over the rest of summer on the weekends and pad the coffers with the idiots that refuse to obey the rules. :chinscratch:

[Jason Philips]

The problem is likely players not reading here. Signs are not likely to be read in opinion. When you go to Pier a good example is the number of people who played the original 3 & 4 while the winter layout was being used. Even with signs and such they still were determined to play the holes.

I honestly don't have a good answer on how to educate the idiots. Most will not value a course enough until it is gone.

[Jason Philips]

NONE of these frikken idiots will pay attention maybe just have the Sheriff :cop: show up a few times over the rest of summer on the weekends and pad the coffers with the idiots that refuse to obey the rules. :chinscratch:

I absolutely agree. I am no fan of police but showing the public that we want to enforce the rules of the park may be a smart political move for the future.

[NWDiscer]

I am no fan of police but showing the public that we want to enforce the rules of the park may be a smart political move for the future.


who knows maybe they designate a % to the park/course itself

[Adam Schneider]

I think some visible and expensive enforcement of the rules (alcohol, littering, dogs) is probably the only way anything is going to change. Signs aren't much of a deterrent, but hefty fines can be.

[Matt B.]

It's time to be pro-active for sure. I have professional experience in both public parks management and in managing private land that is open to the public for some activities but not for others, and I've been around disc golf and disc golfers a lot over the last several years. I've been down this road many times before. If you truly feel that this course will be at risk if this inappropriate behavior continues you should absolutely jump on it now.

The place is brand new and now is the time to establish expectations and set the tone and get the word out. Posts to this forum are a good start, but have almost zero effect on the activity at the park. I'd go to the people at the park with decision making ability and acknowledge the problem, remind them of your investment in the course and affirm that responsible disc golfers follow the rules but it'll take a group effort to get the general public to follow the rules.

Signs do get ignored, but without explicit, obvious signage it is hard to take a position that people should have known better. Encourage the Park to either install more signage, or let them know you'd like to fundraise for it. Signs are a start but until park staff, law enforcement, or volunteers are at the course enforcing the rules with some consequences for willfully brekaing them, the behavior will not stop. I would absolutely see what local law enforcement can do, and encourage the Parks staff to do the same.

You guys have done so much work, it would truly be a shame to have another course ruined by the shitbirds who unfortunately plague our sport. Bring the hammer down now.

[PDX_Stu]

I don't always think the Narc method is cool, but to avoid any physical confrontations, you could always snap a picture and put it on the Web and find out who these people are..maybe they will get the message if enough people give them grief about it.

[jdinteg]

I plan to bring a spare set of bags (Trash/Recycle) and pick any trash up I see. I will take it home and deal with it there. Additionally I plan to shame whoever I see breaking the rules, even my closest DG buddies will catch my wrath if they break the rules here. Too many hours, too much blood/sweat/blackberry scars from all of us to let this slide. PLEASE DON'T RUIN THIS!

[Bullseye]

I think it is pretty obvious that the majority of people here understand that we are guests at Blue Lake Park and also the importance our conducting ourselves as such. We all just need to politely spread the word to people who might not get it yet.

With that said, we are ordering a number of additional signs for the course and we will get them installed as soon as they're completed.

Jeff

[jdinteg]

Hagerty,
Agreed, unfortunately one thing I do poorly is stay politely quite. I'm sure you know that already by now.

[fernhillphil]

I was out there again yesterday and threw easily my worst round yet. I was all over the course. 4 rounds here and a round at Pier since this place opened have worn my throwing arm out. So many blackberry scartches....

There are now trashcans/recycling out there. Between 8/9 and between 16/17. Possibly one other place that I am forgetting. I also saw parks employees on golf carts emptying the cans so hopefully their presence will help curb the litter/alcohol problems. Parks workers/rangers helping enforce rules is a fine idea. City police to enforce a park rule? No thanks.

Many of the pads have been removed prepped for new ones. jdinteg, are you saying that the old pads were causing the slippery dust on the tops, not the gravel? I too think the gravel skirt is a good idea to help with traction in the winter, I just figured that it was the source of the dust and that it needed to be larger.

[Flash]

I was out there again yesterday and threw easily my worst round yet. I was all over the course. 4 rounds here and a round at Pier since this place opened have worn my throwing arm out. So many blackberry scartches....

There are now trashcans/recycling out there. Between 8/9 and between 16/17. Possibly one other place that I am forgetting. I also saw parks employees on golf carts emptying the cans so hopefully their presence will help curb the litter/alcohol problems. Parks workers/rangers helping enforce rules is a fine idea. City police to enforce a park rule? No thanks.

Many of the pads have been removed prepped for new ones. jdinteg, are you saying that the old pads were causing the slippery dust on the tops, not the gravel? I too think the gravel skirt is a good idea to help with traction in the winter, I just figured that it was the source of the dust and that it needed to be larger.
The concrete was mixed incorrectly and it was crumpling causing the dust. Jeff Hagerty took care of it and parks is re-pouring the pads.

[murray the brit]

Thay where out there today re pouring then and Thay do look nice I just wish people would not scratch there tag in the tee pads there was one who I know the guy and I thought he was better than that I will be haveing words with him:whistler:when I see him next on a good note I did not lose a disc :yay::yay:

[Bullseye]

Thay where out there today re pouring then and Thay do look nice I just wish people would not scratch there tag in the tee pads there was one who I know the guy and I thought he was better than that I will be haveing words with him:whistler:when I see him next on a good note I did not lose a disc :yay::yay:

Oh, you must be talking about the idiot who calls himself "Rage" who carved his name into the teepad. Well, at least we do know he is a Rockwood local. Hopefully, someone can "talk" some sense into the fool.

Well folks, we tried to erase the names of every moron who wrote their name in the concrete, but it felt like they were adding them faster than we could erase them. We fought hard to get those bad pads replaced and this is what people do. I can't even begin to tell you how disappointing it was to see fellow disc golfers vandalizing the course.

[LegoRules]

Oh, you must be talking about the idiot who calls himself "Rage" who carved his name into the teepad. Well, at least we do know he is a Rockwood local. Hopefully, someone can "talk" some sense into the fool.

Well folks, we tried to erase the names of every moron who wrote their name in the concrete, but it felt like they we're adding them faster than we could erase them. We fought hard to get those bad pads replaced and this is what people do. I can't even begin to tell you how disappointing it was to see fellow disc golfers vandalizing the course.

It just makes me want to puke! :puke: That is so disrespectful to all the people who worked so hard to get this course in the ground. :pullhair:

Cindy :(

[emmarose]

Oh, you must be talking about the idiot who calls himself "Rage" who carved his name into the teepad. Well, at least we do know he is a Rockwood local. Hopefully, someone can "talk" some sense into the fool.

Well folks, we tried to erase the names of every moron who wrote their name in the concrete, but it felt like they were adding them faster than we could erase them. We fought hard to get those bad pads replaced and this is what people do. I can't even begin to tell you how disappointing it was to see fellow disc golfers vandalizing the course.

oh, for heaven's sake. just WHO do these people think they are? if they had hand poured the tees (#8 at meadow ridge comes to mind) then i can see that it might be appropriate... but really?

i am very disappointed.

[Matt B.]

SHITBIRDS!

[all2common]

SHITBIRDS!

Migrating north this time of year.

[Rakoz]

Just adding one more disappointed voice to the stack: Stop playing what amounts to Russian Roulette with out beloved disc parks! "Everyone" is not doing it and all it takes is one memorable negative encounter and our newest park is gone.

[maco capo]

Those shitbirds were up north last year. It was that endangered species olydiscgolf. And I thought they were extinct, well at least their game!
HA

[Wes Hansen]

Played BL for the first time Sunday with Steve.
My notes:
No lost discs. Not even sure what all the hoopla was/is about... I wonder where people were throwing.....
17 fair fairways (#17 needs a bit o something), fair OB for everyone (assuming all un-mown grass is OB).
Played easier than Milo or Pier or Trojan.
#1 and #18 are more par 3 than 4.
There is that one dangerous hole/teepad area (# escapes me). MUST have something done... we were almost hit while on the pad and Steve had put his hand up two days before to save someone from a hard shot to the head- our errant thrower said "I didn't know anyone was over there. I was wondering why someone was yelling fore."
Nice tee pads- looking forward to the additional ramping in back of pads.
Did I mention I thought all the OB was more than fair? If a tourney uses string to make all current tall grass OB, then placement, with distance, becomes a crucial factor. Plenty wide enough to throw rollers almost anywhere.
Fun, not as hard as I'd heard, easy to find your discs, long for sure, great use of mundane topography.
If playing the weekend this Summer, be in the parking lot by 10am or expect a wait.
The course was full even then, but the flow was fine.
...only birdied two holes. shot six over.
I expect to be able to (as a 910-ish rated player) shoot even par within my first 5 casual rounds there (NOT using the imagined tourney OB lines).
WITH the tourney OB lines (as I imagine from the fairways cut and what I think I've been told) then Blue Lake in event configuration will be a challenge.
I think it's most likely one of the 4 best courses in the area, maybe top 3.
THANK YOU TO ALL WHO MADE THIS GREAT NEW COURSE POSSIBLE. THOUSANDS OF DISC GOLFERS WILL BENEFIT FROM YOUR EFFORTS.
... all that and still only 2c...

[Flash]

Oh, you must be talking about the idiot who calls himself "Rage" who carved his name into the teepad. Well, at least we do know he is a Rockwood local. Hopefully, someone can "talk" some sense into the fool.

Well folks, we tried to erase the names of every moron who wrote their name in the concrete, but it felt like they were adding them faster than we could erase them. We fought hard to get those bad pads replaced and this is what people do. I can't even begin to tell you how disappointing it was to see fellow disc golfers vandalizing the course.

Sounds like Pier Park all over again. When we re-poured and resurfaced several times because idiots couldn't keep their digits out of the concrete. Finally we had to camp out several people at each pad to make sure the pads would dry enough before we could leave the park.

Disappointed but not surprised by extended members of the disc golf community.