Core Series up and running

[LJ Jubner]

Two events down 11 more to go.

The series is glad to offer a way for players to give their feedback with event satisfaction surveys. The Riverside one is currently finishing up and the Downriver one is now available for your comments.


The updated schedule will be available later today.

[Kenny B]

Here is the first posting of the Washington State "To the Core" Series standings. This includes two events: Downriver Open and Aloha Sushi Classic. The Riverside Open results have not been provided, so that event has not been included.

I'm also planning on adding the results to the website: http://washingtonstateseries.drupalgardens.com

[LJ Jubner]

Thanks Kenny I a m working hard on getting the Riverside Open scores in.

[Danni]

Thanks Kenny I a m working hard on getting the Riverside Open scores in.

Any ETA on the Riverside Open points? It's been about a month.

Thanks

[Kenny B]

Here is the updated standings of the Washington State "To the Core" Series. This update includes two more events: Raymond Seick Invitational and Lilac City Open.

The Riverside Open results have not been provided to me, so that event has not been included.

[Kenny B]

I just got the Riverside Open results, so it will be included in the next update.

[Jreynolds]

How many points has it taken in years past to qualify for the finals? How many people qualify for the finals from each division?

[LJ Jubner]

How many points has it taken in years past to qualify for the finals? How many people qualify for the finals from each division?

These are interesting questions ones in which we are trying to conceive ways of identifying them.

There is no minimum number of points needed to qualify just 7 rounds (roughly three events) It seems like we might have several 600 points(perfect score qualifiers 3 events x 200 max points). We are going to need to figure out Iron Arm awards

The Core finals being worth 1.5 times should make for an interesting weekend

After looking at the results so far 13-14 Open players have already qualified 12 Adv 3-4 each Adv Masters and Grand and then there's Jack. So we are already ahead of last years totals and with attendance being what it is we are ahead of the past several years overall attendance.

[Jreynolds]

Excuse me if I sound dumb, but I'm trying to understand... If I have 7 rounds (3 at the Aloha, 2 will be at the Dennis Rockwell, and 2 in the Yakima event), I will be able to play in the WSS Finals (which are at my home course:-)??

[LJ Jubner]

Excuse me if I sound dumb, but I'm trying to understand... If I have 7 rounds (3 at the Aloha, 2 will be at the Dennis Rockwell, and 2 in the Yakima event), I will be able to play in the WSS Finals (which are at my home course:-)??

Yup

[Danni]

I just got the Riverside Open results, so it will be included in the next update.

Hi Kenny, I looked around but I wasn't able to find the latest point totals, with Riverside... can you maybe point me in the right direction?

thank you

[cefire]

After looking at the results so far 13-14 Open players have already qualified 12 Adv 3-4 each Adv Masters and Grand and then there's Jack. So we are already ahead of last years totals and with attendance being what it is we are ahead of the past several years overall attendance.

Because there are now many more events in the series...?

[Kenny B]

Hi Kenny, I looked around but I wasn't able to find the latest point totals, with Riverside... can you maybe point me in the right direction?

thank you

Sorry, the point totals with Riverside have not been posted. I know I said in my previous post that riverside would be included in the next update, but at that time I thought the Shelton tournament was happening in June and so thought I would post an update in June.

Now, however, we've run into a new problem in that the riverside TD has not paid the series fees. The series has stated that we would not include events until their fees have been paid, but it seems more like that's just punishing players unnecessarily.

More to follow on this later...

[LJ Jubner]

Now, however, we've run into a new problem in that the riverside TD has not paid the series fees. The series has stated that we would not include events until their fees have been paid, but it seems more like that's just punishing players unnecessarily.

More to follow on this later...

Thanks Kenny

The reason why we decided to not include points until fees where paid was to protect the series and it players from slow/non paying TD's (Antoon clause) Each event has the money deducted from the players entry at the time of it completion and should be remitted in a timely fashion ( guidelines within two weeks)

[Rolly]

Just curious,
I played in the Riverside event. So let me get this right... If no fees were received from the TD, which I am assuming were included in the entry, then he is stealing from the series, and basically the players too. Along with that we as players are not getting credit towards the WSS. Am I way off base?

[LJ Jubner]

Just curious,... If no fees were received from the TD, which I am assuming were included in the entry?

Yes they were deducted.


... then he is stealing from the series, and basically the players too.

This remains to be seen.

... we as players are not getting credit towards the WSS. Am I way off base?

We do have the results from all events including Riverside We are all just waiting for the TD to remit the fees.

[Wobbly Bob]

Just curious,
I played in the Riverside event. So let me get this right... If no fees were received from the TD, which I am assuming were included in the entry, then he is stealing from the series, and basically the players too. Along with that we as players are not getting credit towards the WSS. Am I way off base?

Players that want to see where they stand in the Riverside event should call and ask the TD why the Series hasn't received the Players fees yet. Or if he knows when the series will receive those fees.

The Series Coordinator doesn't have any police powers here and there isn't even a written agreement. All Jub has is the TD's word that he will pay those fees within 2 weeks after the event. You know, the Honor System.

[Rolly]

Players that want to see where they stand in the Riverside event should call and ask the TD why the Series hasn't received the Players fees yet. Or if he knows when the series will receive those fees.

The Series Coordinator doesn't have any police powers here and there isn't even a written agreement. All Jub has is the TD's word that he will pay those fees within 2 weeks after the event. You know, the Honor System.

It should not be the players responsibility to enforce the WSS policy. Unfortunately it sounds as if the "Core Committee" have their hands tied. Perhaps you are right Bob, the added pressure of the players could help. I will do what I can.

If there isn't anything as simple as a written agreement then this could potentially happen again without any consequence. That doesn't seem like protecting players or the WSS.

It has been 3 months since the date of the event. If this TD is still delinquent than I would assume they're is unwillingly to pay at this point. I would have a hard time accepting that it slipped their memory. Furthermore, if said TD doesn't pay, ever, then what happens to the points for the Riverside event? I assume they will not get counted towards the overall WSS points, based on what I read here.

Let me explain that I am not trying to beat up on the WSS or Jub, just clarifying what will happen and what has occurred. It is for my knowledge only to make future decisions with this TD. I appreciate the work that has been done, and hope that we can learn from this.

[LJ Jubner]

There is no simple or single answer. As a group we are trying to protect everyone including our TD's.

By no means have we given up on the points and the players are our best leverage.

[Wobbly Bob]

As the Inland Northwest Series Coordinator, I had this same thing happen in 2011. I didn't post the points until after the final regular series event was played in September. Players then could look at their points and count their qualifiers and decide if they wanted to play in the Finals in October. I paid the players the full amount that should have been taken in from players fees at the Finals because I believed that the late paying TD would come through with his payment. The TD that was in arrears with his Series fees paid them in March, 2012. Positive thinking and a lot of positive phone calls was what it took.

Has anyone called the Riverside TD yet?

That might be all it would take.

[Rolly]

How would one even got about getting that information? It is not readily available. If provided I would. Once again, I'm not sure this an an issue that the players should directly be handling.

[Jeremy Frieling]

The 2nd Annual Tale of Two Rivers 2day PDGA B Tier

“To the Core” Washington Sate Series 2012 Event

August 4th & 5th 2012 @ Sumner’s Riverside Disc Golf Course & Auburn’s White River Disc Golf Course.

Get ready for a fun and challenging weekend of disc golf in the south sound. Good Players Pack, raffle, CTP’s…. and maybe some skills challenge’s at White River Sunday afternoon.

Tee Sign Sponsorship Opportunities start at $20. Tee Sign sponsorship with Inncolor Star Cobra $30. Donations at any level are always encouraged. Disc Golf is small and self-supporting community and donations help improve the payout and the overall quality of the tournament experience. A huge thank you to all of those who continue help support area events. If you haven’t considered sponsorship in the past I would encourage you to thinking about this time.

Tourney Formant:

Riverside Saturday/Sunday Morning
All Pro divisions, Advanced Men/Women, Advanced Masters Men

Saturday Morning Players Check in at 8:30
Players Meeting at 9:15
1st Round Tee time 9:45

Lunch Break to follow 1st Round, 2nd round tee @ White River at 1.30. Brief Players Meeting at 1:15pm.

Sunday Morning Players Meeting 9:00
3rd Round Tee time @ 9:30am

Awards to follow 3rd Round at White River

White River Saturday/Sunday Morning
All Intermediate Divisions, Advanced Masters Women, Advanced Grandmasters Men/Women, Juniors

Saturday Morning Players Check in at 8:30
Players Meeting at 9:15
1st Round Tee time 9:45

Lunch Break to follow 1st Round, 2nd Round tee @ Riverside at 1:30. Brief Players Meeting at 1:15.

Sunday Morning Players Meeting 9:00
3rd Round Tee time 9:30

Awards to follow 3rd round at White River

[Big dawg 99]

I was told the funds were already paid. Jub and Dave need to talk.

[LJ Jubner]

I was told the funds were already paid. Jub and Dave need to talk.

Yes, the Riverside fees have been paid. Expect a points and qualifiers update in the next couple of days.

[Discgolfingkilmers]

I was told the funds were already paid. Jub and Dave need to talk.

dave paid them on the 9th of july to me and i sent a check to kenny b

[Kenny B]

Standings are updated. Here are the current points including the Riverside event.

[hyzer88]

That's because there only using top three tournaments

[50949]

Damn gonna have to play more then!!!!

[LJ Jubner]

Here is a link to the first half for player participation
http://washingtonstateseries.drupalgardens.com/node

[LJ Jubner]

Here is a link to the first half for player participation
http://washingtonstateseries.drupalgardens.com/node

and an easier to use list of qualifiers

[3 Fingers]

Jub whens the next update ??

[Wobbly Bob]

The Back to the City Cup is finished, WSS Fees have been paid and the scores have been uploaded. Don't imagine it will take to long before Jub updates.

[Big dawg 99]

YES I'AM GLAD TO SEE THAT I HAVE MADE IT TO THE 600 CLUB.

NOW MY JOB IS TO STAY HEALTHY AND FINISH WHAT I HAVE STARTED.

CANT WAIT TO SEE YOU ALL AT THE FINALS IN THE TRI CITIE'S.

WHERE I HOPE I CAN REACH THE 900 CLUB!

MUCH LOVE TO YOU ALL,BE SAFE, AND LET THAT DISC FLY.

THANKS BIG DAWG 10159:rockon:

[Kenny B]

I'm working on the update, should be middle of the week this week.

[DGShawn]

and an easier to use list of qualifiers

Couldn't see the REC though :headbang:

[LJ Jubner]

Couldn't see the REC though :headbang:


Updates I am thinking once per month should be fine.

If you only played The Rockwell there are no for it yet.

If Coco for Cocoa puffs could get in it's fee we could have a three event update.

[3 Fingers]

Couldn't see the REC though :headbang:

i cant see none of it

[DGShawn]

I am going to hold out for the next update, hoping for the best...

[Kenny B]

Here is the next update. I did not have time to include Tale of Two Rivers, but plan to update again next week with that and Paving the Way.

[LJ Jubner]

Thanks Kenny

[REDFIVE]

here is the next update. I did not have time to include tale of two rivers, but plan to update again next week with that and paving the way.

steillyside?

[Kenny B]

steillyside?

I have not received the results from that event yet. I figure Mark is pretty busy preparing for Paving the Way, so I haven't bugged him too much for it. At the same time I didn't want to promise that it would be in the next update either.

[ski2man]

Any plan for when the next update on points will be?

[General Scales]

Man wish I had been able to play more events this year. 1 win put me up to 28th in MA1

[Wobbly Bob]

Man wish I had been able to play more events this year. 1 win put me up to 28th in MA1

There were three series events in Spokane this year. With one in Walla Walla and one in Tri Cities this year saw a first in the fact that you didn't have to travel to the west side of the state to qualify for the Washington State Series Finals.

[General Scales]

There were three series events in Spokane this year. With one in Walla Walla and one in Tri Cities this year saw a first in the fact that you didn't have to travel to the west side of the state to qualify for the Washington State Series Finals.

The problem wasn't location, the problem was financial :explode:

[Kenny B]

Here is the next update. Only one more event left to qualify, so all those players with only one event on record have been dropped from the standings.

[DGShawn]

:cheers: Thank you for the update :cheers:


Shawn

[LJ Jubner]

Thanks Kenny for all your hard behind the scenes work

What a turn out!!! 103 qualifiers with one event to go.

37 Open 25 of them Open Men
46 Adv. 27 of them Adv Men
17 Int Men and 3 Rec

[Big dawg 99]

Here is the next update. Only one more event left to qualify, so all those players with only one event on record have been dropped from the standings.

I dont see Ron W in adv grand masters with two wins ? with one left.

[Kenny B]

I dont see Ron W in adv grand masters with two wins ? with one left.

Thanks! Good catch. If anyone sees any other mistakes, don't hesitate to point them out.

In the case of Ron, one TD spelled his name Weimer and the other Wiemer. My spreadsheet works by looking for names (since PDGA # is not required) and so I have to manually catch all misspellings. I have now missed 2 out of about 600 listed players, so not too bad :laughing:

[Big dawg 99]

Thanks! Good catch. If anyone sees any other mistakes, don't hesitate to point them out.

In the case of Ron, one TD spelled his name Weimer and the other Wiemer. My spreadsheet works by looking for names (since PDGA # is not required) and so I have to manually catch all misspellings. I have now missed 2 out of about 600 listed players, so not too bad :laughing:

You rock kenny. No complaints just trying to help a brother out. Thanks

[advgrandmaster52]

Thanks! Good catch. If anyone sees any other mistakes, don't hesitate to point them out.

In the case of Ron, one TD spelled his name Weimer and the other Wiemer. My spreadsheet works by looking for names (since PDGA # is not required) and so I have to manually catch all misspellings. I have now missed 2 out of about 600 listed players, so not too bad :laughing:


This is Ron Weimer. I have 3 wins in the seires,LL,YAK,STILLY.
Could you please check out the standings.
I plan on going to the finals in Tri Citys.
Thanks Ron.:smash:

[Kenny B]

Here are the 2012 Washington State "To The Core" Disc Golf Series standings. All qualifying events have been played. Players who play in the finals will receive 1.5x points for the finals and that will be ADDED to their current total.

Good luck to all in the finals, it will be a blast! :shooting:

[LJ Jubner]

Here are the 2012 Washington State "To The Core" Disc Golf Series standings. All qualifying events have been played. Players who play in the finals will receive 1.5x points for the finals and that will be ADDED to their current total.

Good luck to all in the finals, it will be a blast! :shooting:

Thanks Kenny For doing all the behind the scenes hard work.

[3 Fingers]

i appreciate what you do Thanks Kenny B :rockon:

[Paul"ACE"QuinnIV]

Thanks for the update. Is there different prizes for the final tournament and the points series winners also? Can't wait to play it is going to be great>

[LJ Jubner]

Thanks for the update. Is there different prizes for the final tournament and the points series winners also? Can't wait to play it is going to be great>

Yes there will be two payouts one for the Tri Cities Open and one for the series