Do YOU want to go to USDGC?

[Magilla]

I am in the process of deciding HOW to select our State Rep to USDGC this year.
:whistler:

I am also writing up a "Standards for Selection" that will be followed...
such as..
1) No One is eligible for the spot 2 years in a row.
2) You are NOT eligible IF you have previously qualified (current year)

I have MULTIPLE ideas and am leaning toward a "dedicated golfer" style.

Seeing how the schedule is already quite full, we will use existing events for the determination.
Side Pool competition of some sort....$20-$40 per person depending on the format. With ALL proceeds going toward the trips expenses, starting with entry fee and UP depending on the participation.
I have some fundraising ideas that "should" raise an additional $1000 minimum.
:rockon:

Any "thoughts" before I make a decision?

:cheers:

[Leftybagger]

I want to go!!!! I am more than likely flying there just to go to this premier event! Maybe pay the $50 to let the course kick my a$$ once for a qualifying round. Then I might have to try and find somebody to caddy for! Really sounds like a good idea to spend my first PFD on :biggrin2:

[Magilla]

:chinscratch:

Huh...Nearly 48 hrs and NO ONE in this state has "piped in" on this subject.

:confused:

I suppose IF no one cares, I COULD just take the spot myself..:D


:yay:

[Leftybagger]

:chinscratch:

Huh...Nearly 48 hrs and NO ONE in this state has "piped in" on this subject.

:confused:

I suppose IF no one cares, I COULD just take the spot myself..:D


:yay:

Well... If no one down there really wants it... :biggrin2:

[Magilla]

Well... If no one down there really wants it... :biggrin2:


Like I said...IN STATE.
:biggrin2:

[Bullseye]

Like I said...IN STATE.
:biggrin2:

I'd love to go!!!! However, I think there a few people who would likely fare better. :)

I'd represent the state well off the course though. Ha!

[proto something or other]

I vote for Jeff.

I think his modesty and sportsmanship is exactly what I would want to represent the great state of Oregon. Send him to the USDGC. He'll class up the joint.

[Leftybagger]

Like I said...IN STATE.
:biggrin2:


I know, i know!!

[Magilla]

I vote for Jeff.

I think his modesty and sportsmanship is exactly what I would want to represent the great state of Oregon. Send him to the USDGC. He'll class up the joint.

I agree. BUT.. "Giving" the spot to someone is NOT a popular method. :whistler:

MOST want it to be "skill" related AND it will be.
Jeff is selling himself SHORT, IMO.
He very well could compete for the spot, I intend to.

:cheers:

[Bullseye]

Kiss up all you want Wilson. I still won't make out with you.

A man has to have standards, and mine, while low, are still well above lawyers.

:biggrin2:

I vote for Jeff.

I think his modesty and sportsmanship is exactly what I would want to represent the great state of Oregon. Send him to the USDGC. He'll class up the joint.

[gwillim]

I agree. BUT.. "Giving" the spot to someone is NOT a
He very well could compete for the spot, I intend to.
:cheers:

Why would you need to compete for the spot. I thought the State Rep was automatically given a spot for themselves, and then also get's to decide another player from the state.

Am I am wrong about this?

[gwillim]

Why would you need to compete for the spot. I thought the State Rep was automatically given a spot for themselves, and then also get's to decide another player from the state.

Am I am wrong about this?

Oh, and I want to go, but not till next year. Can I reserve my spot early?

[Leftybagger]

Why would you need to compete for the spot. I thought the State Rep was automatically given a spot for themselves, and then also get's to decide another player from the state.

Am I am wrong about this?

There is only one spot that the State Rep has the option to decide what to do with it. They COULD keep it for themselves ( and some do ) or decide whom to give it to or have an event for!!

[Nate Sexton]

I think the State rep and State Coordinator are being confused. The state coordinator chooses a state rep, a state rep gets a pass into the USDGC. If there is going to be $1000+ in fundraising to help send someone to the USDGC I just might avoid qualifying through traditional means and compete for the state spot this year. :wink2:

[Nate Sexton]

All jests aside I think Dion is the man for the job. He has traveled more than just about anyone else and his game would fit great at Winthrop if he played smart. I vote for Dion.

[Sam]

I also would have to lean towards Dion. He has just picked up a major sponsor and he is clearly on his way up. Besides that, he is a great guy who would represent our state very well both on and off the course. :cheers:

[Sean Phillips]

If there's going to be a competition for the USDGC spot then I'm in. :jumpspin:

[Bullseye]

Sorry Sean, they don't have an AM division... buahahahhaaaa!

If there's going to be a competition for the USDGC spot then I'm in. :jumpspin:

[proto something or other]

Kiss up all you want Wilson. I still won't make out with you.

A man has to have standards, and mine, while low, are still well above lawyers.

:biggrin2:

lulz.:laughing:

EDIT:


Sorry Sean, they don't have an AM division... buahahahhaaaa!
Double lulz.

[Sean Phillips]

Sorry Sean, they don't have an AM division... buahahahhaaaa!

I knew that was coming and I deserve it. :laughing:

[Magilla]

If there's going to be a competition for the USDGC spot then I'm in. :jumpspin:

It WILL be by Competition.....Most likely..How well you play in a PRO Division during the first 3 Series events..(GNW, BSF & HooDoo)

Hint, Hint, Hint.......

[Sean Phillips]

Good hints.

Thanks :cheers:

["Over the Hill" Bob]

I guess this all leaves me out! :headbang: Must get better, must get better, must get better! :slapface::slapface::slapface:

Bob

[smobro]

What about Jay Harbour, or Cory or F'in brody miller, or pinkal or gilmore or christiansen, or Crider, or Romito, or, or,or,or? Or a whole lot of guys that have massive talent and should be in the running. I say the winner of the Oregon Series goes automatically. make the top guys show up for every event and make it mean something. Hell if I could go, I would, but how funny would that be for an 873 to be on a card with a 1024? Not that f'ing funny.


2009 OREGON SERIES OPEN PLAYER WINNER GOES! That simple.

Sorry been drinking wine again, but i am mostly serious

[Sam]

It cannot wait that long, unfortunately. It will have to be decided by June, I believe.

Oh... and word on the street is that Jay Harbour will not be an Oregonian for much longer. :(

And Tyler Christiansen went last year.

["Over the Hill" Bob]

What about Jay Harbour, or Cory or F'in brody miller, or pinkal or gilmore or christiansen, or Crider, or Romito, or, or,or,or? Or a whole lot of guys that have massive talent and should be in the running. I say the winner of the Oregon Series goes automatically. make the top guys show up for every event and make it mean something. Hell if I could go, I would, but how funny would that be for an 873 to be on a card with a 1024? Not that f'ing funny.


2009 OREGON SERIES OPEN PLAYER WINNER GOES! That simple.

Sorry been drinking wine again, but i am mostly serious

Not any funnier than when I'm on the same card as Jordan at GNO. What is he..........930 something? I"m what..........oh, yeah......752. :laughing:

Bob

[Darr]

Not any funnier than when I'm on the same card as Jordan at GNO. What is he..........930 something? I"m what..........oh, yeah......752. :laughing:

Bob
YEAH BOB YOU DA MAN!!:yay::yay::yay:

[Magilla]

What about Jay Harbour, or Cory or F'in brody miller, or pinkal or gilmore or christiansen, or Crider, or Romito, or, or,or,or? Or a whole lot of guys that have massive talent and should be in the running. I say the winner of the Oregon Series goes automatically. make the top guys show up for every event and make it mean something. Hell if I could go, I would, but how funny would that be for an 873 to be on a card with a 1024? Not that f'ing funny.


2009 OREGON SERIES OPEN PLAYER WINNER GOES! That simple.

Sorry been drinking wine again, but i am mostly serious


The State Rep spot must be chosen and PAID by August 1st or the spot goes away.

I want it decided by July 1st that way IF there is an "issue" of any kind an alternate could be chosen still.

:cheers:

[smobro]

The State Rep spot must be chosen and PAID by August 1st or the spot goes away.

I want it decided by July 1st that way IF there is an "issue" of any kind an alternate could be chosen still.

:cheers:

So, that means the Open leader by August 1st? so, GNO, Fling, hyzer Pines, Rose City Open, and Calapooia are the qualifiers?
Highest average PDGA rated rounds through those events gets to go? That would be a fair assessment of current talent. USDGC is only 2 months after that so whoever has the momentum would represent Oregon. I like it.
Follow the dots.

[Magilla]

So, that means the Open leader by August 1st? so, GNO, Fling, hyzer Pines, Rose City Open, and Calapooia are the qualifiers?
Highest average PDGA rated rounds through those events gets to go? That would be a fair assessment of current talent. USDGC is only 2 months after that so whoever has the momentum would represent Oregon. I like it.
Follow the dots.

First...there is NO Hyzer Pines on the schedule...Its HooDoo.

It will be NO MORE than the 1st 3 events.....That is plenty.

It WILL not be by round ratings....It will be by TOTAL SCORE not counting Final 9's if there are any.
The point difference on ratings between courses makes it unfair.
Some courses are 9pts per stroke-GNW, others like Milo are only 8 THEN the result numbers change from round to round.

I will POST the qualification procedure tomorrow..

:cheers:

[RonTheWhip]

I plan on qualifying this year dammit (Masters Cup or Beaver State Fling)! Otherwise, you can count me in for the competiton. God forbid I don't qualify or something, i still plan on traveling to USDGC for monday qualifying or Caddying for Nate! South Carolina or BUST!

[Chuck Kennedy]

It WILL not be by round ratings....It will be by TOTAL SCORE not counting Final 9's if there are any. The point difference on ratings between courses makes it unfair. Some courses are 9pts per stroke-GNW, others like Milo are only 8 THEN the result numbers change from round to round.

If you read what you just posted again, you'll realize why using average ratings is more, not less fair. The fact that one throw is worth more ratings points on lower SSA courses than on higher SSA courses does actually mean a player who beats another player by one throw on the easier course played better than a player who beat someone by one throw on a higher SSA course.

Example: In the first round, Player A shoots 45 on a low SSA course and Player B shoots 50. Then in round 2 on a higher SSA course, Player A shoots 65 and player B shoots 60. They've both shot 110 and are tied on score. The reality is that Player A shot a little better overall and that will be reflected in their round ratings.

[Brody Cannon]

I wouldn't mind going to USDGC...!! :drool:

My vote would be for Dion to go since I probably can't...

:rolleyes:

[Scott]

I don't see that it matter whether you use scores or round ratings. The same criteria applies to everyone, right? Everyone would have the opportunity to play the same three events, right?

[Chuck Kennedy]

My suggestion would be to use total score as Magilla proposed and only use average round ratings in the event the players are tied and use it as the tiebreaker. Even with slight differences in round ratings between courses, a player who beats another player by one throw over three events will still have a better round rating average. It's only when their total scores are tied that ratings will make a difference unless they tied every round in all three events.

[smobro]

HOODOO? What happened to the Hyzer Pines event? I hope we still get to play that awesome course! Please Magilla. Pretty please

[Magilla]

HOODOO? What happened to the Hyzer Pines event? I hope we still get to play that awesome course! Please Magilla. Pretty please

DOH! Where have you been? :slapface:

We had always intended to play HooDoo as well as Sisters this year BUT decided to go to HooDoo exclusively with its inclusion in the "King of the Mountain"

We feel that the 2 are just 2 far apart to have both....Camping and Tourney Central would have been at HooDoo anyway.

There WILL be events at Hyzer Pines...
See www.centraloregondiscgolf.com for info

:cheers:

[Leftybagger]

I plan on qualifying this year dammit (Masters Cup or Beaver State Fling)! Otherwise, you can count me in for the competiton. God forbid I don't qualify or something, i still plan on traveling to USDGC for monday qualifying or Caddying for Nate! South Carolina or BUST!

I don't have a way to even consider qualifying without traveling back down south!!! I am probably going just to go!!

[Magilla]

I don't have a way to even consider qualifying without traveling back down south!!! I am probably going just to go!!

Alaska has a spot...Why cant you go for that one??
;)

[Bullseye]

Alaska has a spot...Why cant you go for that one??
;)

Yeah, just ask that one other dude who plays if you can go this year :)

[Sam]

Jeff, you need to read your old PDGA magazines. I remember reading one which talked about these bad@$$es playing in the worst of weather. Can you imagine playing an Ice Bowl in Fairbanks, Alaska? The thought makes me want to cry a little...

[Bullseye]

Yeah, I know. I'm just tossing him some crap. I know another disc golfer from Alaska, and he surprised me when he mentioned they really do have a "scene" up there. It's just a cold one ;)


Jeff, you need to read your old PDGA magazines. I remember reading one which talked about these bad@$$es playing in the worst of weather. Can you imagine playing an Ice Bowl in Fairbanks, Alaska? The thought makes me want to cry a little...

[Leftybagger]

Yeah, just ask that one other dude who plays if you can go this year :)


LOL!!!!! It was promised to someone this year... The new AK Coordinator will be giving it out based on AK State Championships from now on though!!

So we are just a little more hardcore up here!! You really have to be afraid of your plastic when the temp is -10 with a windchill of -35 :shocked: There are only about 6 of us in town who play during the winter. You will see others out occasionally, but not very often!!!!

[Jet]

So we are just a little more hardcore up here!! You really have to be afraid of your plastic when the temp is -10 with a windchill of -35 :shocked: There are only about 6 of us in town who play during the winter. You will see others out occasionally, but not very often!!!!
Wow! I don't like to golf under 42 degrees (including windchill). What type of winter gear do you guys wear?

[Leftybagger]

Wow! I don't like to golf under 42 degrees (including windchill). What type of winter gear do you guys wear?

Under 42!!! I would only be golfing for 2 months a year :laughing: I wear 400 weight insulated boots, expedition weight long john bottoms, Gore-Tex Snowboard pants, Heavy weight compressions shirt, heavy weight Fleece, gloves and a beannie. That does me fine till about 5 degrees. Then I have to add another midweight fleece. If it is windy ( above 30 MPH or so ) I add a softsheel or Gore-Tex hardshell to cut the wind!! Doesn't that sound like fun to play in :cheers:

[Jet]

Under 42!!! I would only be golfing for 2 months a year :laughing: I wear 400 weight insulated boots, expedition weight long john bottoms, Gore-Tex Snowboard pants, Heavy weight compressions shirt, heavy weight Fleece, gloves and a beannie. That does me fine till about 5 degrees. Then I have to add another midweight fleece. If it is windy ( above 30 MPH or so ) I add a softsheel or Gore-Tex hardshell to cut the wind!! Doesn't that sound like fun to play in :cheers:
Please post a photo. I have to see that. Do you use hand/foot warmers too?

[Leftybagger]

Please post a photo. I have to see that. Do you use hand/foot warmers too?

I don't need foot warmers. The boots are great!!! I will put hand warmers in my gloves on occasion. I guess that I forgot the Windstopper face mask that I wear sometimes too!! I guess that I could gear up and have my roommate take a picture. I couldn't play 2 days ago since the snow was so light. When the temp is around 10, the snow is so light that the disc will not even leave a mark in the snow when it buries itself!! However, we are 30 today!! Can you say heatwave :laughing: When I moved from OR, all of the outdoor golfing gear that I had was not good enough even for Juneau. I have spent about $1500 on new gear over the last 1 1/2 years just to be somewhat comfortable while outside!

[Jet]

I guess that I forgot the Windstopper face mask that I wear sometimes too!!
I forgot to ask how you keep your nose warm.
When I moved from OR, all of the outdoor golfing gear that I had was not good enough even for Juneau. I have spent about $1500 on new gear over the last 1 1/2 years just to be somewhat comfortable while outside!
That is money well spent. And think if you get a really big blizzard or something - you're prepared! :laughing:

[Rebecca]

Okay--I tried to remain mute on this but I have to say it. Why does it have to be a man? We have some pro women in our state that would qualify.

Teresa Bellinger and Vieve Beecher(who will be playing Pro this year), Suzie Jones etc.

They would represent our great state of Oregon with the utmost integrity on and OFF the course.

But if you guys don't want a woman to go----Dion is an excellent choice.

Think about it----how many states pick a woman to represent them? We need more women players and this would be a great opportunity for people to know that Oregon stands behind our women players.

I'm done.:cheerleader::dancing::cheerleader:

[Leftybagger]

I forgot to ask how you keep your nose warm.

That is money well spent. And think if you get a really big blizzard or something - you're prepared! :laughing:

Yeah, I get some funny looks from people when I wear the face mask, but I like to keep warm!!! I have a friend who is an Environamental Science master's student. I have helped him a few times with his thesis project. We were dropped off by Helicopter on the Juneau Ice Fields for a few days this winter. My gear was well worth the price!!!!

[Magilla]

Okay--I tried to remain mute on this but I have to say it. Why does it have to be a man? We have some pro women in our state that would qualify.

Teresa Bellinger and Vieve Beecher(who will be playing Pro this year), Suzie Jones etc.

They would represent our great state of Oregon with the utmost integrity on and OFF the course.

But if you guys don't want a woman to go----Dion is an excellent choice.

Think about it----how many states pick a woman to represent them? We need more women players and this would be a great opportunity for people to know that Oregon stands behind our women players.

I'm done.:cheerleader::dancing::cheerleader:


Teresa has been the Past few years because she got the TD spot for BSF being a USDGC Qualifier. Just as Jeff Mittl OR Flash will be entitled to this year, BUT that is a "Death Match" we will get to see later..:laughing:

VERY few Women have EVER played in this event...Julianna, Dez
I have NO Issues with a Woman attempting to Qualify for the Spot.
The Comp WILL be structured so that ALL PRO Divisions have an equal shot.

There IS a Womens USDGC....:D
I am NOT allowed to play in that....seems fair to me. :p

:cheers:

[Rebecca]

Teresa has been the Past few years because she got the TD spot for BSF being a USDGC Qualifier. Just as Jeff Mittl OR Flash will be entitled to this year, BUT that is a "Death Match" we will get to see later..:laughing:

VERY few Women have EVER played in this event...Julianna, Dez
I have NO Issues with a Woman attempting to Qualify for the Spot.
The Comp WILL be structured so that ALL PRO Divisions have an equal shot.

There IS a Womens USDGC....:D
I am NOT allowed to play in that....seems fair to me. :p

:cheers:

Good Answer-----SAFE but Good!!!:yay::yay::yay::dancing:

[bvdisc]

Damn Magilla beat me to it. I was going to say that Teressa has gone (twice I believe). Not to say that we shouldn't pick a woman but we have had women from Oregon go before.

[Sam]

Teresa lives in Washington. :)

If you're going to pick a woman from Oregon, I would think Melo would be a logical choice since she now has a great coach and has been touring.

[Magilla]

Teresa lives in Washington. :)

If you're going to pick a woman from Oregon, I would think Melo would be a logical choice since she now has a great coach and has been touring.


DOH..This is true...SHE is not eligible for the "Oregon Rep Spot".

:cheers:

[Rebecca]

Teresa has been the Past few years because she got the TD spot for BSF being a USDGC Qualifier. Just as Jeff Mittl OR Flash will be entitled to this year, BUT that is a "Death Match" we will get to see later..:laughing:

VERY few Women have EVER played in this event...Julianna, Dez
I have NO Issues with a Woman attempting to Qualify for the Spot.
The Comp WILL be structured so that ALL PRO Divisions have an equal shot.

There IS a Womens USDGC....:D
I am NOT allowed to play in that....seems fair to me. :p

:cheers:

Sometimes its hard to forget that T-Bell is from WA because she has done so much for Oregon. That said, I think Dion would be a great choice since he did just pick up a major sponsor.

Also, I think we should keep an eye on Brianna if we want to talk about having a great coach.:biggrin2:

[Magilla]

I will POST the qualification procedure tomorrow..

:cheers:

:headbang:

DOH! I know I said that I would post the procedure week ago....

I am waiting for the GNW players list, to make sure it is a "fair" comp.

Ive heard from quite a few PROS that did not get in AND are pretty bummed about NOT having the chance to qualify. :waaah:

Those that procrastinated for even 1 day were left out.........bummer for them. :slapface:

:cheers:

[KenGilmore]

I believe they can still enter the USDGC the old fashioned way!

[RonTheWhip]

I believe they can still enter the USDGC the old fashioned way!

Which is really hard to do by the way. I've tried three years running and I missed it by one stroke last year at the Fling. I still haven't tried flying down a week early for monday qualifying, but even that is getting harder and harder to do...

[Magilla]

Which is really hard to do by the way. I've tried three years running and I missed it by one stroke last year at the Fling. I still haven't tried flying down a week early for monday qualifying, but even that is getting harder and harder to do...

:drool: You are not kidding...
Since the start of USDGC I have spent OVER $50,000 traveling to various events in an attempt to qualify:slapface::headbang:

I have missed by ONE stroke, 3 times.......:explode:

Traveling to "Monday Qualify" is a REAL commitment....:jumpspin:
Either your IN or a Caddie for someone else...
:shocked:

:cheers:

[Matt B.]

:drool: You are not kidding...
Since the start of USDGC I have spent OVER $50,000 traveling to various events in an attempt to qualify:slapface::headbang:

I have missed by ONE stroke, 3 times.......:explode:

Traveling to "Monday Qualify" is a REAL commitment....:jumpspin:
Either your IN or a Caddie for someone else...
:shocked:

:cheers:


This just in: Magilla DONATES $50,000 to get himself qualified for USDGC!

:nahnah: Sorry, couldn't resist. You've got some serious dedication and obviously a very cool wife and family!

[Sam]

I personally want to thank Magilla for being so generous to the USDGC cause.

<---- doesn't read finer print. :whistler:

[Magilla]

This just in: Magilla DONATES $50,000 to get himself qualified for USDGC!

:nahnah: Sorry, couldn't resist. You've got some serious dedication and obviously a very cool wife and family!


:rolleyes2: Nice attempt....BUT its NOT in the same class...NOR are you. :nono:
:laughing:

And YES...They are rather cool!

:cheers:

[Flash]

:rolleyes2: Nice attempt....BUT its NOT in the same class...NOR are you. :nono:
:laughing:

And YES...They are rather cool!

:cheers:

Magilla and others,

We are trying to pick a state reprisentative right, not the best player who could not qualify. So why don't we come up with criteria outside of just best score. How about criteria that asks of them what they have done for disc golf, if they have held any clinics or helped local youth, or perhaps are they active in any disc golf clubs.

I am betting that the BSF if used will be the only event that will not exclude Pro's that want to qualify, although if we get enough added cash we might sell out the Pro side. If the events to determine the State Rep limit those who want to compete for the spot then this seems not to be a good method for determining our Representative.

[Magilla]

Magilla and others,

We are trying to pick a state reprisentative right, not the best player who could not qualify. So why don't we come up with criteria outside of just best score. How about criteria that asks of them what they have done for disc golf, if they have held any clinics or helped local youth, or perhaps are they active in any disc golf clubs.

I am betting that the BSF if used will be the only event that will not exclude Pro's that want to qualify, although if we get enough added cash we might sell out the Pro side. If the events to determine the State Rep limit those who want to compete for the spot then this seems not to be a good method for determining our Representative.

I like that criteria...
Thanks...Ill just take it myself.

:cheers:

[smobro]

No disrespect to all the amazing TD's and volunteers who make Disc golf incredible in Oregon....................................


The USDGC is the highest level of disc golf on the planet. Talk to people who have played it and they will tell you that it is the only event of the year that can rock any golfer to their knees. Only the best survive! I see this as an opportunity to send Oregon's best hope for a win. We know Jenkins and Feldberg are going to be in the top ten, but I say let's send the player that has the most chance of winning it at the time. That means sending the highest PDGA rated player in Oregon who has not qualified through an NT at the time of the event. And, I will gladly fly there on my own dime and carry that players bag. What an amazing experience! It is the NBA finals, The US Open, The World Series, The Superbowl. Please don't make this about what someone has done for disc golf but make it about sending a champion to the greatest disc golf show on earth! I want to see an Oregonian who has earned it through their awesome disc golf skills get to play at the highest level.
If we need to send someone from the state as a charity player, I recommend having a state rep go to Worlds. Lets send our best to the USDGC

Peace out

[Trozzle!!!]

were you referring to me Kent? hahaha j/k

[smobro]

were you referring to me Kent? hahaha j/k

You know I am a fan of yours, and if you can get from where you are now to the best player in the state by mid summer then I would be proud to carry your bag my brother:biggrin2:

[Flash]

No disrespect to all the amazing TD's and volunteers who make Disc golf incredible in Oregon....................................


The USDGC is the highest level of disc golf on the planet. Talk to people who have played it and they will tell you that it is the only event of the year that can rock any golfer to their knees. Only the best survive! I see this as an opportunity to send Oregon's best hope for a win. We know Jenkins and Feldberg are going to be in the top ten, but I say let's send the player that has the most chance of winning it at the time. That means sending the highest PDGA rated player in Oregon who has not qualified through an NT at the time of the event. And, I will gladly fly there on my own dime and carry that players bag. What an amazing experience! It is the NBA finals, The US Open, The World Series, The Superbowl. Please don't make this about what someone has done for disc golf but make it about sending a champion to the greatest disc golf show on earth! I want to see an Oregonian who has earned it through their awesome disc golf skills get to play at the highest level.
If we need to send someone from the state as a charity player, I recommend having a state rep go to Worlds. Lets send our best to the USDGC

Peace out

News Flash Walter Cronkite,

There have only ever been 4 people to win the USDGC, 2 of those have only won it once. If the person had a legitimate chance to win the event they would qualify by finishing in the top 5 at a qualifying event.

[smobro]

News Flash Walter Cronkite,

There have only ever been 4 people to win the USDGC, 2 of those have only won it once. If the person had a legitimate chance to win the event they would qualify by finishing in the top 5 at a qualifying event.

That couldn't be more of a defeatist attitude. With an attitude like that why even compete ever? Call up Nikko and ask him if he thinks he can win it, or call Avery and see if he thinks he can win it, call Sexton and see if he thinks he can win it, call any of the top 100 pro's in the country and ask them if they think they have a chance to win the USDGC. Hang up on any of them that tell you no. Because they should never compete if they don't believe they can win. Right now, Oregon has at least 5 players that could win the USDGC this year and any one of them could have a bad qualifier that would keep them out. It only makes sense to send someone who has shown over a fairly long period of time that they belong in that field. If you go by the top rated, non-qualifier at the time of the event, then you get that player.

[Magilla]

That couldn't be more of a defeatist attitude. With an attitude like that why even compete ever? Call up Nikko and ask him if he thinks he can win it, or call Avery and see if he thinks he can win it, call Sexton and see if he thinks he can win it, call any of the top 100 pro's in the country and ask them if they think they have a chance to win the USDGC. Hang up on any of them that tell you no. Because they should never compete if they don't believe they can win. Right now, Oregon has at least 5 players that could win the USDGC this year and any one of them could have a bad qualifier that would keep them out. It only makes sense to send someone who has shown over a fairly long period of time that they belong in that field. If you go by the top rated, non-qualifier at the time of the event, then you get that player.


:yay: YOU are correct....
BUT for the sake of "eliminating" the arguements.....

I have already stated that the spot WILL be determined BY COMPETITIVE PLAY.
It WILL NOT be given out by any other way...THIS year.

Flash.....WHAT is the criteria YOU and Jeff are using to decide WHICH OF YOU gets to go as the BSF TD??

You "Could" give it to the player that meets YOUR criteria and stay home.:shocked:

:cheers:

[all2common]

I took Flash's post to say that anybody who wants to qualify and be able to compete at the USDGC, should finish in the top 5 at any qualifying event. Maybe I misread it...I'll look again.

[Magilla]

I took Flash's post to say that anybody who wants to qualify and be able to compete at the USDGC, should finish in the top 5 at any qualifying event. Maybe I misread it...I'll look again.

That IS what he said...in a round about way.

BUT doing that is NO EASY task....:whistler:

:cheers:

[Magilla]

If the events to determine the State Rep limit those who want to compete for the spot then this seems not to be a good method for determining our Representative.

In this case, I disagree.

This is the US OPEN for Disc Golf...a PRO Major.
The criteria for qualifing will make it open for ALL Players who play PRO.

If a player wants to go then they will have to play PRO.

There is an AM USDGC & a Womens USDGC. Those ARE exclusive....WHY cant this be as well.

THEY are easy to get into....This one IS NOT unless of course you are the TD of a Qualifier.:whistler:

BSF already gets 5 spots for the Highest "Non-qualified" players PLUS the TD Spot.

BSF will be used in the criteria...BUT it will be only 1 of the 3 events used.

:cheers:

[Magilla]

Oregon State Rep. Qualification proceedure for USDGC

The State Rep will be determined using "Cumulative Score" taken from the 1st 3 events in the "Oregon Series" NOT including FINALS.

These events are:

Great Northwest Open - April 25 & 26 - Whistlers Bend
Beaver State Fling - May 22, 23 & 24 - Milo McGiver State Park
Mid-Summers Glide - June 20 & 21 - HooDoo SKi Area

$20 per player
ALL proceeds going toward the entry fee and expenses for the trip.
ALL Players MUST be registered WITH ME prior to the start of the 2nd round at the GNW, that gives you until Sunday Morning.

IF we do not get enough players to cover the entry fee, I will cover the remaining myself.

CRITERIA:

1) Player MUST be registered with the PDGA in OREGON
2) Player MUST play in the MPO, MPM, MPG or FPO Division during these events
3) NO player is eligible for the "Rep" spot 2 years in a row
4) You are NOT eligible IF you have qualified at a previous event (current year)
IF you are a paid participant AND qualify (Masters Cup or BSF), you are NO LONGER eligible AND your money will be refunded to you at your request.

In the case of a tie....this will be used to break it.

1) Player who HAS NEVER been to USDGC has priority
2) Avg Rating of all rounds during qualifying
3) Lowest PDGA #

I will keep DETAILED records of ALL participants and post "Standings" after each event.

There ARE fundraising opportunities that I am looking into, BUT at this point ONLY the Entry Fee is assured.

There you have it.....Let the speculation END here....

:trophy:
:cheers:

[Sean Phillips]

I'm in.

See you at the GNWO

[Scott]

Just out of curiosity, how many people typically fly out to try for one of the five remaining spots during Monday Qualifying?

I wonder what the highest finish for a Monday Qualifier is?

I wonder what's the highest finish for a player who was appointed by a state rep?

[james_the_kid]

im in see you at GNWO
May the best man win the spot
bring the A game

[Bullseye]

Oregon State Rep. Qualification proceedure for USDGC

The State Rep will be determined using "Cumulative Score" taken from the 1st 3 events in the "Oregon Series" NOT including FINALS.

These events are:

Great Northwest Open - April 25 & 26 - Whistlers Bend
Beaver State Fling - May 22, 23 & 24 - Milo McIver State Park
Mid-Summers Glide - June 20 & 21 - HooDoo SKi Area

$20 per player
ALL proceeds going toward the entry fee and expenses for the trip.
ALL Players MUST be registered WITH ME prior to the start of the 2nd round at the GNW, that gives you until Sunday Morning.

IF we do not get enough players to cover the entry fee, I will cover the remaining myself.

CRITERIA:

1) Player MUST be registered with the PDGA in OREGON
2) Player MUST play in the MPO, MPM, MPG or FPO Division during these events
3) NO player is eligible for the "Rep" spot 2 years in a row
4) You are NOT eligible IF you have qualified at a previous event (current year)
IF you are a paid participant AND qualify (Masters Cup or BSF), you are NO LONGER eligible AND your money will be refunded to you at your request.

In the case of a tie....this will be used to break it.

1) Player who HAS NEVER been to USDGC has priority
2) Avg Rating of all rounds during qualifying
3) Lowest PDGA #

I will keep DETAILED records of ALL participants and post "Standings" after each event.

There ARE fundraising opportunities that I am looking into, BUT at this point ONLY the Entry Fee is assured.

There you have it.....Let the speculation END here....

:trophy:
:cheers:

Magilla,

While I definitely commend the effort you're putting into this endeavor, I do have a problem with a few aspects of this.

1) I don't think charging people $20 just to be signed up for the possibility of going is very cool at all. If we want to raise money to help send our rep to USDGC that's a fine idea, but REQUIRING people to PAY for the chance is not cool at all. Every time I turn around I'm getting hit with a new "fee" for something and I'm getting tired of it. I was more than happy to help raise money for Tim/Tyler last year, and I'd do it again this year, BUT I don't like being told I HAVE to put money in. Your offer to cover the balance is awesome, but I still don't like the sign-up "fee".

2) I don't think someone who as been given a slot before, should EVER be given that slot again. There a ton of deserving golfers in this state. I would think we would be keen to give that experience to as many different people as possible. Bottom line... if someone wants to go to the USDGC twice. They can earn that second slot. Period.

Again, I'm not trying to harp on you directly, just stating an opinion.

Jeff

[Magilla]

Magilla,

While I definitely commend the effort you're putting into this endeavor, I do have a problem with a few aspects of this.

1) I don't think charging people $20 just to be signed up for the possibility of going is very cool at all. If we want to raise money to help send our rep to USDGC that's a fine idea, but REQUIRING people to PAY for the chance is not cool at all. Every time I turn around I'm getting hit with a new "fee" for something and I'm getting tired of it. I was more than happy to help raise money for Tim/Tyler last year, and I'd do it again this year, BUT I don't like being told I HAVE to put money in. Your offer to cover the balance is awesome, but I still don't like the sign-up "fee".

2) I don't think someone who as been given a slot before, should EVER be given that slot again. There a ton of deserving golfers in this state. I would think we would be keen to give that experience to as many different people as possible. Bottom line... if someone wants to go to the USDGC twice. They can earn that second slot. Period.

Again, I'm not trying to harp on you directly, just stating an opinion.

Jeff

I hear ya....
BUT $20 for the chance to Qualify isnt that excessive AND that $ goes toward the entry, etc.

This way, at least, the Rep is assured having the entry paid.

Interesting theory on NOT getting the spot twice, EVER.
Im am NOT oppossed to this, BUT seeing how I have already put out the criteria for THIS year, we will stick to that.

I am OPEN to "tweeking" the proceedure NEXT year.
I DO plan on having an OPEN meeting at GNW for ANYONE interested.

:cheers:

[Scott]

I hear ya....
BUT $20 for the chance to Qualify isnt that excessive AND that $ goes toward the entry, etc.

This way, at least, the Rep is assured having the entry paid.

Why is it the Rep's responsibility to pay for the entry?

[Bullseye]

It's not. Its an act of kindness. Which is always a cool thing. Many prospects would have trouble raising the kind of money this trip would take, Magilla's just making sure whoever does win the slot will be able to USE it.


Why is it the Rep's responsibility to pay for the entry?

[Scott]

It's not. Its an act of kindness. Which is always a cool thing. Many prospects would have trouble raising the kind of money this trip would take, Magilla's just making sure whoever does win the slot will be able to USE it.

Which is cool. I'm all for kindness. But I agree with you that it's kind of bogus to have to pay in $20.00 just to have a shot.

[Magilla]

Which is cool. I'm all for kindness. But I agree with you that it's kind of bogus to have to pay in $20.00 just to have a shot.


OK, how about $6.66 per event, which is all it amounts too.
:whistler:

Seriously...is it REALLY that big of a deal?

SOME wanted me to hold a SEPERATE event with an entry fee of $30 - $50 to determine the spot. Would that have been prefered? :shocked:


Like I said....THIS YEAR, It is what it is. I am open to changes for next year.

In the past, in Oregon, its just been handed out or not. 2yrs ago we didnt even send a Rep. :slapface:

Maybe everybody can write an ESSAY on WHY they should get to attend USDGC. Its been done before:whistler:

:cheers:

[proto something or other]

Maybe everybody can write an ESSAY on WHY they should get to attend USDGC. Its been done before:whistler:

Even though I think you're being facetious, I think this is an idea with some merit.

I am in the "citizenship over performance" camp on this issue, so I think that encouraging people to write about their work party experience, local scene leadership and general all-around good-guy qualities is a perfect way to select a candidate.

But what do I know?

[Magilla]

Even though I think you're being facetious, I think this is an idea with some merit.

I am in the "citizenship over performance" camp on this issue, so I think that encouraging people to write about their work party experience, local scene leadership and general all-around good-guy qualities is a perfect way to select a candidate.

But what do I know?

In this case I was being somewhat facetious :p

BUT, It was done that way a few times in Cali..........:rolleyes2:

The issue became...WHY was 1 person better than the other.
Bad feelings about NOT being "picked", etc.

Choosing by competition seemed to be the best answer.

:cheers:

[Bullseye]

Choosing by competition seemed to be the best answer.
:cheers:

Unless you're a woman. ;)

[Flash]

In this case I was being somewhat facetious :p

Choosing by competition seemed to be the best answer.

:cheers:

That is what qualifying is for!

[Magilla]

Unless you're a woman. ;)

I already went there with Rebecca......:kissflowers:

There is a Womens USDGC & an AMS USDGC. ;)

You nor I are able to qualify for those....Women CAN qualify for USDGC.

:cheers:

[snap7times]

I would be down to helping fundraise to support our rep... Everyone throws in 5-10 bucks to cover travel fees etc... so we can send the best person regardless of funds.. *didnt read the whole thread but just spitting this out anyways*

[proto something or other]

Choosing by competition seemed to be the best answer.


If this sentence were amended to read, "Choosing by competition seemed to be the best way to accomplish the goals I have set," then yes, I would agree.

I think my difference from you is not a matter of how to accomplish the goals, rather, it is a difference of what the goal should be.

We can agree to disagree on this. I just wanted to point out that what you think the best mechanism is depends on what you're trying to achieve.

[Magilla]

If this sentence were amended to read, "Choosing by competition seemed to be the best way to accomplish the goals I have set," then yes, I would agree.

I think my difference from you is not a matter of how to accomplish the goals, rather, it is a difference of what the goal should be.

We can agree to disagree on this. I just wanted to point out that what you think the best mechanism is depends on what you're trying to achieve.

:headbang:

Sorry BUT its obvious to me that WE look at this event in totally different ways.

To me USDGC is the "Holy Grail" :drool: FOR Open Players and you have to EARN your way in, BY PLAY.
IMO, TD's of Qualifiers shouldnt get spots either, WHAT makes them so special from ALL the other TD's that run events all year?
Sure it allows them to "experience" the event BUT there are MANY deserving players out there.

YES, In the end it is how I want it done. Really doesnt matter WHAT method I choose...SOMEONE will complain and come up with a "better idea". :rolleyes2:
Thats just the way it is. Some of us "DO" others just "Watch" and complain after the fact.:puke:
If its NOT done by Comp. then it would just be some abitrary decision made by the current coordinator (Me) WHICH I HAVE DONE BEFORE.

That leads to even more issues.....:pullhair::nono::nono::nono::eek:

Why dont you go out and talk to a few of the Pros that have been there and see what they think.....YOU might get a better understanding.
:cheers:

[Chuck Kennedy]

One of the goals of the USDGC is to raise the bar for the quality of professional events in the sport. What better way than to have the TDs of the other highest level events actually participate in the USDGC so they can go back and use those ideas to improve their events?

[Magilla]

One of the goals of the USDGC is to raise the bar for the quality of professional events in the sport. What better way than to have the TDs of the other highest level events actually participate in the USDGC so they can go back and use those ideas to improve their events?


:chinscratch:

Thanks Chuck. THAT makes sense.

:cheers:

[Chuck Kennedy]

However, it would make more sense to have TDs for the Majors and NTs play the USDGC the year before their event so it might make a difference in the quality of their upcoming event. In the case of ongoing TDs like Ginnelly at the Memorial, perhaps a different one of his assistants should get the nod each year so playing the USDGC really is a future TD learning experience since few of them are real contenders.

[Magilla]

Oregon State Rep. Qualification proceedure for USDGC

The State Rep will be determined using "Cumulative Score" taken from the 1st 3 events in the "Oregon Series" NOT including FINALS.

These events are:

Great Northwest Open - April 25 & 26 - Whistlers Bend
Beaver State Fling - May 22, 23 & 24 - Milo McGiver State Park
Mid-Summers Glide - June 20 & 21 - HooDoo SKi Area

$20 per player
ALL proceeds going toward the entry fee and expenses for the trip.
ALL Players MUST be registered WITH ME prior to the start of the 2nd round at the GNW, that gives you until Sunday Morning.

IF we do not get enough players to cover the entry fee, I will cover the remaining myself.

CRITERIA:

1) Player MUST be registered with the PDGA in OREGON
2) Player MUST play in the MPO, MPM, MPG or FPO Division during these events
3) NO player is eligible for the "Rep" spot 2 years in a row
4) You are NOT eligible IF you have qualified at a previous event (current year)
IF you are a paid participant AND qualify (Masters Cup or BSF), you are NO LONGER eligible AND your money will be refunded to you at your request.

In the case of a tie....this will be used to break it.

1) Player who HAS NEVER been to USDGC has priority
2) Avg Rating of all rounds during qualifying
3) Lowest PDGA #

I will keep DETAILED records of ALL participants and post "Standings" after each event.

There ARE fundraising opportunities that I am looking into, BUT at this point ONLY the Entry Fee is assured.

There you have it.....Let the speculation END here....

:trophy:
:cheers:

Bump :seeya:

[RonTheWhip]

I dig it!

If you guys think paying twenty dollars is bad for a chance at getting in, you should really investigate what kind of financial and time commitment it takes to get in. The USDGC is my dream event, and I've been denied it three times now. I've played in several qualifiers (costing several thousand dollars in entry fees, travel expenses...) during that time and to no avail. I'll gladly pay twenty dollars and play in three events I was going to play in anyway for a chance to qualify.

Thanks Mike for organizing the structure and allowing an equal opportunity for us all. God knows that if I were in your shoes I'd take the spot myself with no regrets, so once again I'll say thanks. Which reminds me, I'll start campaigning for State Coordinator soon...

I also like the ideas that Phillips and Wilson interjected (partly cause I fill that criteria and have no problems writing essays). But I strongly agree that USDGC is about ability, and that our strongest players (who are not already qualified) should go.

Right now, Oregon has at least 5 players that could win the USDGC this year and any one of them could have a bad qualifier that would keep them out.

Umm…I’m really interested who you think those five players are. In my book there is two. But hey, maybe in your book those same players have a chance at becoming President as well :)

All in all this is quite fair and reasonable. I’m in, and you bet I’ll be bringing my A game Moore!

["Over the Hill" Bob]

All in all this is quite fair and reasonable. I’m in, and you bet I’ll be bringing my A game Moore!

What if Moore didn't get into the GNO? What if Dion doesn't get into the Fling? Miss one of three events and you're out. Just sayin'!

Bob

[KenGilmore]

I will be donating my $20 to provide a little financial help to whoever it is that eventually wins the rep spot.

[james_the_kid]

Dion is right. just pay $20 for having the chance to even go to USDGC:drool: is awsome and im glad that we are playing for it. its probly the best way to do it insted of just mike just chooseing someone. now sence all the Pros have a shot of making there dreams come true of playing the best tournment in the world. i support it. and with everyone making a big deal about just let the your game do the talking like I say MAY THE BESTWin!:shooting::shooting:

James Moore

[smobro]

Umm…I’m really interested who you think those five players are. In my book there is two. But hey, maybe in your book those same players have a chance at becoming President as well

I can't resist wondering who your 2 are? I certainly hope they both have won at least a couple of PDGA A tier or NT events? You can't include Avery and Dave because they are qualified already. So, who? I am dying to know? Nate for sure, Moore, Miller (if he would play the qualifier), Phillips, Pinkal, Christiansen, etc. let's see am I forgetting at least a couple others? hmmmmmmm.......

Sorry about the sarcasm, but we have some very sick talent at the local pro level in Oregon. Could any of them place well in the USDGC? I believe they can. There is very little that separates these guys from the elite Pro's. Maybe an untimely injury, or a full time job, or living in a climate that doesn't necessary allow for as frequent of play, a tweak or two in their game and boom they are at the top.

I have been helped out in my game by many of them and they are always willing to give me a few tips on how to get better. That is really pretty incredible.

I just want to give credit where it is due.

[Bullseye]

Dion is right. just pay $20 for having the chance to even go to USDGC:drool: is awsome and im glad that we are playing for it. its probly the best way to do it insted of just mike just chooseing someone. now sence all the Pros have a shot of making there dreams come true of playing the best tournment in the world. i support it. and with everyone making a big deal about just let the your game do the talking like I say MAY THE BESTWin!:shooting::shooting:

James Moore


James,

I totally agree with the "Let the best man win." at the USDGC qualifying events, however, the point many people have been trying to make here is that the state representative slot is one of the only means to get there WITHOUT playing for it.

How happy are you going to be if you cannot get signed up for one of the three "Oregon Qualifer" events and as result you have NO HOPE of qualifying... even if you paid your $20 to get into the hunt? My guess is you would be pretty pissed.

Top tier players have MANY chances to qualify, whereas above average (but still excellent ambassadors for Oregon) players have NO CHANCE with this method.

Jeff

PS: I'm planning on going to Worlds this year, so don't think my objections to this method are an attempt to get there myself. Its not even an option.

[NWDiscer]

maybe next year????

Take the whichever set of 7 tournaments, and have say 5 of them needed to qualify then take the Top 5 Overall Spots.

Then have a 1 round 27 hole playoff at "The Bend"

Winner takes the spot? :trophy:


Seems fair to me???

Not like i have shot at this........:blush::laughing:


:cheers:

[snap7times]

GNO registration may be out of the way. But anyone who is at GNO, pays the $20 for the shot at the spot, is definitely not gonna be on the snooze button when the time comes to register for the other 2 tournaments. If they do, then holy toledo, that is some snooze button... I personally will put up $20 to the winner to pay for their travels... That's one less dead president that our rep can worry about and one more birdie they gonna bring home!

[NWDiscer]

oh yea and they have to turn in their essays at the 1st Event :pirate:

[snap7times]

I bet most of their essays will say "in God we trust"...

[NWDiscer]

I bet most of their essays will say "in God we trust"...

a few will prob. have

"In Discatarianism We Trust" :yay::biggrin2:

[gwillim]

I just read this thread for the first time. My thoughts on the matter...

First off, I applaud Mike for allowing discussion on the issue. I think it's great to have a State Rep that communicates with the players of the state, and actively seeks their opinions on things. Mike would be totally in his right to just give the spot away, or use it himself, but he chose not to. To have a system that we use is a great step forward, even if you don't agree with the system completely. If I were in Mike's position, I would have just given the spot to Coury Coates and not asked anyone's opinions.

That said, Mike's system may not be well liked by everyone. Knowing Mike as I do, I don't see him budging on his decisions for this year. However, he has actively invited everyone to a meeting at the GNO this year to discuss how to give the spot away next year. All of your concerns, issues, etc with how Mike is doing it this year should be brought to that meeting. Again, he doesn't have to do this, but the fact that he is doing so is showing some good leadership qualities, in my opinion.

Go to the meeting, state your views, debate, argue, try to reach a consensus, be happy you were included.

[Magilla]

I just read this thread for the first time. My thoughts on the matter...

First off, I applaud Mike for allowing discussion on the issue. I think it's great to have a State Rep that communicates with the players of the state, and actively seeks their opinions on things. Mike would be totally in his right to just give the spot away, or use it himself, but he chose not to. To have a system that we use is a great step forward, even if you don't agree with the system completely. If I were in Mike's position, I would have just given the spot to Coury Coates and not asked anyone's opinions.

That said, Mike's system may not be well liked by everyone. Knowing Mike as I do, I don't see him budging on his decisions for this year. However, he has actively invited everyone to a meeting at the GNO this year to discuss how to give the spot away next year. All of your concerns, issues, etc with how Mike is doing it this year should be brought to that meeting. Again, he doesn't have to do this, but the fact that he is doing so is showing some good leadership qualities, in my opinion.

Go to the meeting, state your views, debate, argue, try to reach a consensus, be happy you were included.

:bowing:

:cheers:

[snap7times]

huh?? what you say gwillim? I couldn't read your lips, that brown stuff hanging off your nose blocking your lips... let me remove that brown stuff.... alright, better... say that again please?
:angel::jumpspin:

[gwillim]

Not a chance. Mike and I disagree on a lot of things, and we have done so for longer than you've probably known either one of us. I never have and never will brown nose to Mike, I have no need to. I'm just pointing out that he's doing something good, and it ought to be mentioned. I'm not looking for his approval or anything and I would like that to be clear.

Oh, and I can still throw further than he can, at least theoretically.

[snap7times]

was just being "dry Deaf humor" on a friday afternoon, no response expected... oh yeah, fricking got poison oak for the first time ever! I'm immune to the stuff but apparently I rolled in it too much and it got to me... SOB...

[Flash]

I dig it!

If you guys think paying twenty dollars is bad for a chance at getting in, you should really investigate what kind of financial and time commitment it takes to get in. The USDGC is my dream event, and I've been denied it three times now. I've played in several qualifiers (costing several thousand dollars in entry fees, travel expenses...) during that time and to no avail. I'll gladly pay twenty dollars and play in three events I was going to play in anyway for a chance to qualify.


Thats because you would not listen to me and go play the Full Throttle challenge @ Solitude Mountain qualifier in August, you would have qualified the last two years as most of the top 15 already qualified!!!

Think about it, go play in the qualifiers that are near the end of the road for the USDGC and your changes go up exorbitantly!

Here are the 2009 Qualifying requirements form the USDGC website.
http://www.usdgc.com/files09/09_USDGC_Qualifying.pdf

[Magilla]

Oh, and I can still throw further than he can, at least theoretically.

AND in your DREAMS...:laughing:

But then WE can find out at the Oregon State Overalls this year cant we..

:shooting::shooting::shooting::shooting:

[gwillim]

AND in your DREAMS...:laughing:

But then WE can find out at the Oregon State Overalls this year cant we..

:shooting::shooting::shooting::shooting:

I'm retired.

[Sam]

This is a battle I would pay to see. I have seen both throw. It would be a good battle.

Of course, I do remember the last distance comp. I saw Magilla at. A bunch of us threw in the 350-400 foot range. And then Mike stepped up and easily passed 500 making something of a mockery of the "competition". And it was winter. And cold.

[purediscgolf]

DON'T FORGET!! You guys still have to get through the likes of Dion, Nate, Tyler, Skellenger, James Moore and well.... ME @!!! :trophy:(Big D 2008- 203 Meters 666 Feet. MARK OF THE BEAST!!!)

I'm hoping to get more fundraising together but there is a $50 bounty on my standing Oregon record of 525ft. Also, There will be a $100 for any 600+ foot shot in the finals.

Naysayers=:bricks: just don't do it:nono: These kids can throw these days. Damn fandangle technology. I remember throwing Scorpions 350ft and feeling like a GOD!!!:yay:

360's with Eco Excaliburs are just like cheating. Think about it.:bowing:

[purediscgolf]

To get back on the topic at hand though. I feel this is THE BEST WAY to handle the USDGC spot. If a potential players doesn't have their stuff together for 3 local tournaments how could they handle a cross country Major. The $20 entry is obscenely low IMO and was just a nice round number. The idea of making an event was passed around with something like a $40-$50 entry. I would have paid $40 to get in on the current USDGC pool. But keeping the cost low at $20 should draw even those players who feel they have no shot but wish to support. I think there will be more than 50 players who will be in on this pool. Which amounts to $1000 for the winner to travel on. Plus all other fundraising efforts that are in the works.

We should do the same thing for the World Championships as well for an AM and a Pro. They are, after all, together again this year in KC.

Nice work Magilla,


Oh, BTW, go check out www.maceman.com and read up on Burnt Out Disc Golf promoters. It is very interesting and informative. Some of you should have a lot to think about after reading his statement. Thanks Just my 2 cents...

[all2common]

To get back on the topic at hand though. I feel this is THE BEST WAY to handle the USDGC spot. If a potential players doesn't have their stuff together for 3 local tournaments how could they handle a cross country Major. The $20 entry is obscenely low IMO and was just a nice round number. The idea of making an event was passed around with something like a $40-$50 entry. I would have paid $40 to get in on the current USDGC pool. But keeping the cost low at $20 should draw even those players who feel they have no shot but wish to support. I think there will be more than 50 players who will be in on this pool. Which amounts to $1000 for the winner to travel on. Plus all other fundraising efforts that are in the works.

We should do the same thing for the World Championships as well for an AM and a Pro. They are, after all, together again this year in KC.

Nice work Magilla,


Oh, BTW, go check out www.maceman.com and read up on Burnt Out Disc Golf promoters. It is very interesting and informative. Some of you should have a lot to think about after reading his statement. Thanks Just my 2 cents...


Been there...http://http://nwdiscgolfnews.com/forum/showthread.php?t=894

[RonTheWhip]

Umm…I’m really interested who you think those five players are. In my book there is two. But hey, maybe in your book those same players have a chance at becoming President as well

I can't resist wondering who your 2 are? I certainly hope they both have won at least a couple of PDGA A tier or NT events? You can't include Avery and Dave because they are qualified already. So, who? I am dying to know? Nate for sure, Moore, Miller (if he would play the qualifier), Phillips, Pinkal, Christiansen, etc. let's see am I forgetting at least a couple others? hmmmmmmm.......

Sorry about the sarcasm, but we have some very sick talent at the local pro level in Oregon. Could any of them place well in the USDGC? I believe they can. There is very little that separates these guys from the elite Pro's. Maybe an untimely injury, or a full time job, or living in a climate that doesn't necessary allow for as frequent of play, a tweak or two in their game and boom they are at the top.

I have been helped out in my game by many of them and they are always willing to give me a few tips on how to get better. That is really pretty incredible.

I just want to give credit where it is due.

If you can't count Dave and Avery, than my list drops to zero. Winning the USDGC is ridiculousy hard to do. In your initial post, you said there were 5 Oregonians capable of winning the title, I disagree. Nate has the best chance of placing high. Than perhaps Skellinger, Coates, Christiansen and myself. I'm not knocking the talent pool in Oregon, but I think you are underestiimating the levity of actually winning the USDGC.

But I guess we'll see how well we can all do this year!

[Magilla]

Oregon State Rep. Qualification proceedure for USDGC

The State Rep will be determined using "Cumulative Score" taken from the 1st 3 events in the "Oregon Series" NOT including FINALS.

These events are:

Great Northwest Open - April 25 & 26 - Whistlers Bend
Beaver State Fling - May 22, 23 & 24 - Milo McGiver State Park
Mid-Summers Glide - June 20 & 21 - HooDoo SKi Area

$20 per player
ALL proceeds going toward the entry fee and expenses for the trip.
ALL Players MUST be registered WITH ME prior to the start of the 2nd round at the GNW, that gives you until Sunday Morning.

IF we do not get enough players to cover the entry fee, I will cover the remaining myself.

CRITERIA:

1) Player MUST be registered with the PDGA in OREGON
2) Player MUST play in the MPO, MPM, MPG or FPO Division during these events
3) NO player is eligible for the "Rep" spot 2 years in a row
4) You are NOT eligible IF you have qualified at a previous event (current year)
IF you are a paid participant AND qualify (Masters Cup or BSF), you are NO LONGER eligible AND your money will be refunded to you at your request.

In the case of a tie....this will be used to break it.

1) Player who HAS NEVER been to USDGC has priority
2) Avg Rating of all rounds during qualifying
3) Lowest PDGA #

I will keep DETAILED records of ALL participants and post "Standings" after each event.

There ARE fundraising opportunities that I am looking into, BUT at this point ONLY the Entry Fee is assured.

There you have it.....Let the speculation END here....

:trophy:
:cheers:

Bump...again.
:cheers:

[Magilla]

Oregon State Rep. Qualification proceedure for USDGC

The State Rep will be determined using "Cumulative Score" taken from the 1st 3 events in the "Oregon Series" NOT including FINALS.

These events are:

Great Northwest Open - April 25 & 26 - Whistlers Bend
Beaver State Fling - May 22, 23 & 24 - Milo McGiver State Park
Mid-Summers Glide - June 20 & 21 - HooDoo SKi Area

$20 per player
ALL proceeds going toward the entry fee and expenses for the trip.
ALL Players MUST be registered WITH ME prior to the start of the 2nd round at the GNW, that gives you until Sunday Morning.

IF we do not get enough players to cover the entry fee, I will cover the remaining myself.

CRITERIA:

1) Player MUST be registered with the PDGA in OREGON
2) Player MUST play in the MPO, MPM, MPG or FPO Division during these events
3) NO player is eligible for the "Rep" spot 2 years in a row
4) You are NOT eligible IF you have qualified at a previous event (current year)
IF you are a paid participant AND qualify (Masters Cup or BSF), you are NO LONGER eligible AND your money will be refunded to you at your request.

In the case of a tie....this will be used to break it.

1) Player who HAS NEVER been to USDGC has priority
2) Avg Rating of all rounds during qualifying
3) Lowest PDGA #

I will keep DETAILED records of ALL participants and post "Standings" after each event.

There ARE fundraising opportunities that I am looking into, BUT at this point ONLY the Entry Fee is assured.

There you have it.....Let the speculation END here....

:trophy:
:cheers:


:biggrin2:

[TreeLove]

Is there a thread about USDGC qualification around here anywhere?

[Magilla]

Is there a thread about USDGC qualification around here anywhere?


:whistler:

:kissflowers:

[Sam]

So... if an Advanced player has the best score at all three events, tough luck?

Not that I see this as much of a possibilit... just wonderin'.

[Magilla]

So... if an Advanced player has the best score at all three events, tough luck?

Not that I see this as much of a possibilit... just wonderin'.

yep...simple as that.

:nahnah:

[Sam]

Doesn't seem right but OK. :cheers:

[Magilla]

Doesn't seem right but OK. :cheers:
:chinscratch:
Why wouldnt that seem right?
There IS an AM USDGC.... I cant qualify for that.

There are ONLY 2 AMs that qualify for USDGC....
:trophy:U.S. Champ & World Champ:trophy:

All others must play in a "Qualifying" division at a "qualifier", ie. Masters Cup, BSF, etc and be 1 of the top 5 scores.

"MA1" is not a "Qualifying" division. :nahnah:

If all that doesnt work....


Cause I said so.......:biggrin2:

:laughing:

[KenGilmore]

Makes sense to me!

[Magilla]

I will have sign up forms at :whistler: FIND ME!


Oregon State Rep. Qualification proceedure for USDGC

The State Rep will be determined using "Cumulative Score" taken from the 1st 3 events in the "Oregon Series" NOT including FINALS.

These events are:

Great Northwest Open - April 25 & 26 - Whistlers Bend
Beaver State Fling - May 22, 23 & 24 - Milo McGiver State Park
Mid-Summers Glide - June 20 & 21 - HooDoo SKi Area

$20 per player
ALL proceeds going toward the entry fee and expenses for the trip.
ALL Players MUST be registered WITH ME prior to the start of the 2nd round at the GNW, that gives you until Sunday Morning.

IF we do not get enough players to cover the entry fee, I will cover the remaining myself.

CRITERIA:

1) Player MUST be registered with the PDGA in OREGON
2) Player MUST play in the MPO, MPM, MPG or FPO Division during these events
3) NO player is eligible for the "Rep" spot 2 years in a row
4) You are NOT eligible IF you have qualified at a previous event (current year)
IF you are a paid participant AND qualify (Masters Cup or BSF), you are NO LONGER eligible AND your money will be refunded to you at your request.

In the case of a tie....this will be used to break it.

1) Player who HAS NEVER been to USDGC has priority
2) Avg Rating of all rounds during qualifying
3) Lowest PDGA #

[Magilla]

Here are the standings for the USDGC Rep.....



#1-GNW & Player
151 - Andrew Rich
153 - Ryan Lane
154 - Tyler Christensen
154 - John Ollis
157 - James Moore
158 - Dion Arlyn
159 - Sean Phillips
159 - Coury Cotes
162 - Ken Gilmore
171 - Mike Ruzicka

Good Luck this weekend in event #2

:cheers:

[Greg_R]

So some of those guys got spots at the BSF... what do the standings look like now?

[Magilla]

Here are the standings for the USDGC Rep.....IF you qualified at BSF, then YOU know who you are. :cheers:



Thru #2 - Milo & Player


380 - Tyler Christensen
385 - Dion Arlyn
387 - Andrew Rich
390 - John Ollis
391 - Coury Coates
394 - Ryan Lane
399 - James Moore
421 - Mike Ruzicka
DNF - Ken Gilmore
DNF - Sean Phillips

[Nate Sexton]

Now that Tyler and Dion have their spots from the BSF Andrew is the frontrunner. If he wins the competition we (Oregon) should wait to announce our state rep until sometime near the August 31st deadline. Andrew has plans to tour this summer and I expect he will qualify at one of the NT's in the midwest this summer. If this happens the Oregon spot should slide down to the next player in the competition. No matter who wins the state spot we should wait to confirm them as our rep unless they have no plans to attend any of the remaining qualifiers (Worlds, all NTs, and some A-tiers). Good luck to Andrew, John, Coury, and Ryan, it will be great having any of you at the USDGC.

[Sam]

James 12 strokes back with one event to play. And didn't he win the Shootout last year? :chinscratch:

[all2common]

At Hyzer Pines. Hoodoo will be a different story. On another note, I thought that you couldn't be appointed as Oregon's representative if you've gone before, which makes Andrew ineligible.

[Bullseye]

At Hyzer Pines. Hoodoo will be a different story. On another note, I thought that you couldn't be appointed as Oregon's representative if you've gone before, which makes Andrew ineligible.

I think the rule was that no player can be the state rep 2 years in a row.

[all2common]

Ahhh so.

[Magilla]

Now that Tyler and Dion have their spots from the BSF Andrew is the frontrunner. If he wins the competition we (Oregon) should wait to announce our state rep until sometime near the August 31st deadline. Andrew has plans to tour this summer and I expect he will qualify at one of the NT's in the midwest this summer. If this happens the Oregon spot should slide down to the next player in the competition. No matter who wins the state spot we should wait to confirm them as our rep unless they have no plans to attend any of the remaining qualifiers (Worlds, all NTs, and some A-tiers). Good luck to Andrew, John, Coury, and Ryan, it will be great having any of you at the USDGC.

:cheers:

I was planning on waiting until the DEADLINE to "Officially" name the Rep :wink2:

For the very reasons that Nate brings up and a few more.

No worries... :biggrin2:

:rockon:

[Magilla]

Here are the standings for the USDGC Rep.....IF you qualified at BSF, then YOU know who you are. :cheers:



Thru #2 - Milo & Player


380 - Tyler Christensen* Qualified at BSF
385 - Dion Arlyn* Qualified at BSF
387 - Andrew Rich
390 - John Ollis
391 - Coury Coates
394 - Ryan Lane
399 - James Moore
421 - Mike Ruzicka
DNF - Ken Gilmore
DNF - Sean Phillips

DOH! Ryan Lane misses qualifying by 1 stroke at the High Plains Challenge this weekend.
Coury Coates has spent MUCH time at HooDoo helping to prep for the final event...working on course karma, I'd say.
Its gonna come down to the wire............

:rockon::rockon::rockon:

:cheers:

[Flash]

Hey Don't forget, Jeff Mittl qualified at the Beaver State Fling as well by throwing a stellar event and putting up with countless days without sleep. I have confirmation that he sent in his registration already as well.

How many Oregonians can we get to this thing?