2012 Lilac City Open

[Wobbly Bob]

2012 LILAC CITY OPEN
May 26 & 27, 2012
Pro "A Tier" / Am "B Tier"

The 2012 Lilac City Open is a "Washington State Series Qualifying" event,
a "Vibram Open Qualifying" event, and a "Divisional Series Tournament"

$1800 added Pro Cash (minimum)

Format for the Lilac City Open

Pros & Adv will play 1 round on Sat. & 1 round on Sun. on the 27 hole Jumanji Course
with all Pro divisions playing a Final 10 round on Sun.

Int, Rec & Jrs will play 2 rounds on Sat. & 2 rounds on Sun. on the Porcupine "13" Course (26 holes each day)

Group Camp @ Riverside State Campground or Primitive camp (no showers) @ 4 Mound Disc Golf Reserve

Online registration is available @ PDGA Sign Up (http://www.pdgasignup.com/Qstore/Qstore.cgi) now.

Down load the attached "Flyer/Entry Form" below for mail-in entries and more INFO.

[DMajor]

Is this the first year the Lilac will have all rounds at four mounds?

[prospect]

hmmmmm...not really the Lilac CITY Open without a round in the city...disappointing to say the least

[Wobbly Bob]

hmmmmm...not really the Lilac CITY Open without a round in the city...disappointing to say the least

The only thing constant about life is change. Two rounds on Jumanji may be too much challenge for some.

[olydiscgolf]

The only thing constant about life is change. Two rounds on Jumanji may be too much challenge for some.

The LCO is always a great event, and I'm sure this year won't be the exception. But it sure is nice to play three different courses in a tourney, especially when we only make it over once a year..

[prospect]

While jumanji is a great course, I don't believe 2 rounds on the same course will be nearly as challenging as playing 3 different courses. It's also 9 holes shorter, and allows players to correct their mistakes on the next round. So, what is the reasoning behind this?

The only thing constant about life is change. Two rounds on Jumanji may be too much challenge for some.

[General Scales]

While jumanji is a great course, I don't believe 2 rounds on the same course will be nearly as challenging as playing 3 different courses. It's also 9 holes shorter, and allows players to correct their mistakes on the next round. So, what is the reasoning behind this?

I agree with you on this. I'd rather see some sort of layout like Intermediate, Rec, etc playing Hawk, then regular Porcupine then two rounds of the Porcupine 13 layout. While Advanced and Open play Super Porcupine first, then Fear second and finish it out with 1 round of Jumanji.

Oh well, I'll still be there throwing plastic and wishing I hadn't forgotten my Excedrin (like last year).

[Lyounger]

Hi,

I just want to express my sincere gratitude that both the DRO and LCO are happening this year. I realize it's been a rough year for everyone for various reasons such as health, finances, burn out, etc...

Both of these are major events that take an enourmous amount of effort. Maybe if the disc golf community rallies around the TDs this year some of the suggestions for making these events more like they were in the past can be implemented next year.

I'll be doing my share of traveling this year for tourneys but it sure is nice to have several quality local tourneys to compete in.

Thanks for making it happen!

Lesli

[SheilaT]

While jumanji is a great course, I don't believe 2 rounds on the same course will be nearly as challenging as playing 3 different courses. It's also 9 holes shorter, and allows players to correct their mistakes on the next round. So, what is the reasoning behind this?

It's the TD's prerogative. If you want it done another way, then maybe you should run the tournament yourself.

[General Scales]

It's the TD's prerogative. If you want it done another way, then maybe you should run the tournament yourself.

I would assume that he's not unhappy with the decision just wondering why it's gone to this format this year. As are quite a few of us who are going to be playing.

[prospect]

It's the TD's prerogative. If you want it done another way, then maybe you should run the tournament yourself.

You are right, the td has every right to run a tourney anywhere he wants, and I'm not ungrateful to have a tournament to play. I'm disappointed that the tradition of the LCO is not being followed this year, and I guarantee I'm not alone. Might as well call it the Country Cup.

[Stimpi]

I would assume that he's not unhappy with the decision just wondering why it's gone to this format this year. As are quite a few of us who are going to be playing.

One reason it's all happening at 4Mound is just that, one location for everything is a lot easier to manage than different flights on different courses, shuffling locations, etc. Just having one location to deal with, and it's private, so the casual-playing public isn't freaked out about the public courses being unavailable. There are probably more reasons. Personally I like the whole tour as well, but it's not my event to run.

[olydiscgolf]

You are right, the td has every right to run a tourney anywhere he wants, and I'm not ungrateful to have a tournament to play. I'm disappointed that the tradition of the LCO is not being followed this year, and I guarantee I'm not alone. Might as well call it the Country Cup.

Ding ding ding! Thats right!

[General Scales]

It's not even the tour thing. I am looking forward to playing the LCO as I am every year that I have played it. I am just wondering why aren't we playing a variation of courses. Especially considering the variety available at that wonderful place.

It does accomplish one thing though. It'll be much easier to have an accurate SSA at the end.

[Gordy #21004]

Bob had to get his request for a Super Tour date submitted to the PDGA by Nov of last year. At that time Bob really envisioned adding Sekani into the LCO mix in place of High Bridge because the Grant project at High Bridge will be in full swing by then. Seemed reasonable at the time but Bob couldn't pull the trigger on including a course that may or may not be built by then. And still areas of High Bridge would be under construction. .......The DRO will take place toward the end of April so there's three rounds of Downriver in the books 4 weeks prior to LCO. There's alot to take into account and Bob's not getting any quicker on his feet. I let him know that if he wanted to consolidate his efforts to one venue that its all the same to me to prepare Jumanji and the Porcupine '13 'for one day of LCO or two......He's never been able to make everyone happy yet so I don't suspect it will happen this year either. ......I'll be as busy as usual prepping the Mound for 'company'. Maybe it's your year to tame 'Manji.:chug:

[General Scales]

Bob had to get his request for a Super Tour date submitted to the PDGA by Nov of last year. At that time Bob really envisioned adding Sekani into the LCO mix in place of High Bridge because the Grant project at High Bridge will be in full swing by then. Seemed reasonable at the time but Bob couldn't pull the trigger on including a course that may or may not be built by then. And still areas of High Bridge would be under construction. .......The DRO will take place toward the end of April so there's three rounds of Downriver in the books 4 weeks prior to LCO. There's alot to take into account and Bob's not getting any quicker on his feet. I let him know that if he wanted to consolidate his efforts to one venue that its all the same to me to prepare Jumanji and the Porcupine '13 'for one day of LCO or two......He's never been able to make everyone happy yet so I don't suspect it will happen this year either. ......I'll be as busy as usual prepping the Mound for 'company'. Maybe it's your year to tame 'Manji.:chug:

That makes a lot of sense actually. It would've been uber sweet to have some tournament rounds at Sekani. But alas, there has been no progress that I have seen.

Two rounds of Jumanji means I have the utmost chance of really tanking my players rating. Last year I shot 18 over in one round there thanks to a very sore back and a lack of Excedrin to quell the pain. This year, I plan on shooting even. I think that will put me in the cash. Here's to ludicrous dreams! :chug::chug:

[JR Stengele]

Hey Gordy, when do you think the second round will be over (SUNDAY)? I ask for those of us who have to travel back to seattle that night.

[Wobbly Bob]

That makes a lot of sense actually. It would've been uber sweet to have some tournament rounds at Sekani. But alas, there has been no progress that I have seen.

Two rounds of Jumanji means I have the utmost chance of really tanking my players rating. Last year I shot 18 over in one round there thanks to a very sore back and a lack of Excedrin to quell the pain. This year, I plan on shooting even. I think that will put me in the cash. Here's to ludicrous dreams! :chug::chug:

Maybe a twelve pack of Excedrin in the players pack would be appropriate.:laughing:

[Wobbly Bob]

Hey Gordy, when do you think the second round will be over (SUNDAY)? I ask for those of us who have to travel back to seattle that night.

This is just an estimate for the finish of the Final 10 on Sunday. I'd like to say 4:30 maybe 5:00. But, it all depends on how the 30 second shot rule is followed.

The Am Payout will take place while we are figuring out the cards for the Last Pro round.

[JR Stengele]

Thank you sir. Just trying to figure out if I came if I would need to take the following day off of work. Sounds like an amazing time!

[olydiscgolf]

Thank you sir. Just trying to figure out if I came if I would need to take the following day off of work. Sounds like an amazing time!

Thats not even a question Stengele! Thursday through Monday baby!!!!

[DMajor]

John your students need you. Please never take vacation again.

Four Mounds has always been my favorite course of the LCO. Playing multiple courses is fun, but I can play courses similar to Downriver and Highbridge over here in the Seattle area. However, finding a course that provides a comparable experience to "El Mounds De Quatro" is pretty tough to do especially when camping on site is provided. Hopefully, I'll be able to make it to my fourth LCO in a row!

[JR Stengele]

Yet to play four mound but have always heard great things about it. Hopefully I can make it and if so, maybe we can carpool Dan.

[JR Stengele]

Thats not even a question Stengele! Thursday through Monday baby!!!!

:cheers:

[Wobbly Bob]

While jumanji is a great course, I don't believe 2 rounds on the same course will be nearly as challenging as playing 3 different courses. It's also 9 holes shorter, and allows players to correct their mistakes on the next round. So, what is the reasoning behind this?

The Highbridge project will be in progress. The more courses you play the more volunteers you need. With an "A" Tier you have to have one non playing TD per course. One of my main tournament volunteers moved to Oregon and I have no one to replace her. As much as I hate to admit it, I don't get around as easily as in past years as Lesli has pointed out (Thanks Darlin'). It seemed like it would be "easy for me" to have it all at one place this year. I am able to achieve a zen like sense of calmness and peace out at Four Mound. Others have named a few other reasons for holding the LCO out at Four Mound, Thanks to you all.

Like Gordy stated, I've never run an LCO that pleased everyone and there is no reason to expect that to change this year even though my desire is to give the golfers the best event I can.

[Wobbly Bob]

Thank you sir. Just trying to figure out if I came if I would need to take the following day off of work. Sounds like an amazing time!

I have worked to hold the LCO on Memorial Day weekend because a lot of people don't have to work on Monday and it allows an extra day to travel. Jumanji is a 4-5 hour trip around 4 Mound that will not only work your body out, but will also challenge every throw you have in your bag. I hope that you can get Monday off and can come compete in the LCO this year.

[Wobbly Bob]

Online Registration is ready @

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Just click and register!

[JR Stengele]

I have worked to hold the LCO on Memorial Day weekend because a lot of people don't have to work on Monday and it allows an extra day to travel. Jumanji is a 4-5 hour trip around 4 Mound that will not only work your body out, but will also challenge every throw you have in your bag. I hope that you can get Monday off and can come compete in the LCO this year.

Funny, I didn't even notice that it was Memorial Day that Monday. Good on ya! Man I hope I can make it for this great event.
Any idea when it will show on the pdga site who has signed up already?

[Jason Philips]

I may come out and play. This sounds like a great excuse to see family before and after the tournament.

[ScottW]

Any idea when it will show on the pdga site who has signed up already?

As soon as Bob starts loading names of registered players to the PDGA website. :posting:As a TD I know it sucks to load 1 name at a time when they are barely trickling in:smash:. Makes more sense to wait until you have at least 5-10 names to load to make it more worth your time. Just my 2 cents based on experience as a TD.

[JR Stengele]

Good to know. I asked because one, I have never been a TD and am unclear how it works and two, trying to see if anyone I know is going and wants to carpool. Thanks for the heads up.

btw, I have yet to play the course and am wondering how bad the discs get chewed up on this course?

[benihana]

Kinda disappointing certain individuals will be playing the same 13 holes 4 times in a row. Especially when it includes the third largest division. I understand all the reasons already stated for its location, but many fellow friends and club members have expressed this concern. Just speaking for those that haven't been heard yet and I really want to thank you for holding another top tiered tournament this year as I had scheduling conflicts during last years LCO.

[General Scales]

Good to know. I asked because one, I have never been a TD and am unclear how it works and two, trying to see if anyone I know is going and wants to carpool. Thanks for the heads up.

btw, I have yet to play the course and am wondering how bad the discs get chewed up on this course?

Discs don't really get chewed up out there at the good old Mounds. They get lost off giant cliffs. They get stuck in very thick tree's 50 plus feet up. They disappear into giant thick swaths of grass and the such. They tend to do things that you don't want them to do. Must be that clean air.

My advice, show up a day early, play a round or two. Bring back ups. Don't be upset if you lose a disc because Gordy does have a wall of shame that your disc, if found, will be placed upon and sold back to you for 1 dollar.

With that being said, hope you can make it. The Mounds never disappoints.

[LJ Jubner]

Kinda disappointing certain individuals will be playing the same 13 holes 4 times in a row. Especially when it includes the third largest division. I understand all the reasons already stated for its location, but many fellow friends and club members have expressed this concern.

Bob Can't win

Last year players complained about having to be a current member to play in an A tier Now the third largest is getting dissed.

[JR Stengele]

Is there anywhere on the web that has pictures of this epic place? If I go this year I WILL be putting some up on dgcr. Hole #9 on Jumanji I heard is one of the best holes ever created.

Also, is the tournament overlay for Jumanji a combination of all 3 courses? Just cape fear? Combo of porcupine and cape?

[General Scales]

Is there anywhere on the web that has pictures of this epic place? If I go this year I WILL be putting some up on dgcr. Hole #9 on Jumanji I heard is one of the best holes ever created.

Also, is the tournament overlay for Jumanji a combination of all 3 courses? Just cape fear? Combo of porcupine and cape?

Jumanji encompasses at least two of the courses. Can't remember if it includes anything on Porcupine. It does have one hole that is specific only to Jumanji and that hole is called Peckerwood. It's less than 200 feet and can destroy most people. The only hole I've ever played that I played a overhand roller from a knee off a tee pad.

As far as I know, there aren't any pictures that I can remember. ericedge was taking pictures last year of the Final 10 showdown and there was even one in the PDGA publication they put out. I have some pictures somewhere on a random SD card of every hole and preferred landing zones on some of the bigger holes.

Hole 9 on Jumanji is amazing. Still, for my dollar, there is no hole greater than either Cape Fear's signature hole (it puts fear in a lot of players) and Porcupine hole 14 (I think it's 14). It's the hole on Porcupine where you shoot downhill down an alley to a wide open plane with a basket next to a discarded classic truck. Pretty tough to par, let alone 2.

You won't be disappointed if you choose to come out and give it a go. Just wish you'd get to play more than Jumanji during your trip (or Porcupine 13 if you play intermediate or lower).

[Gordy #21004]

Is there anywhere on the web that has pictures of this epic place? If I go this year I WILL be putting some up on dgcr. Hole #9 on Jumanji I heard is one of the best holes ever created.

Also, is the tournament overlay for Jumanji a combination of all 3 courses? Just cape fear? Combo of porcupine and cape?

........Hey JR, First of all, the hole you speak of above is Cape Fear #9. It is really just a shot across a canyon about 550' with about a 20' elevation loss. Getting across that canyon, however, can cost you about 4 climate zone changes. Some people think it's best to go around the canyon and save a lot of vertical torture. ..This hole is not on Jumanji or the Porky "13"......For the record, all the courses are permanent courses. For the LCO, Jumanji will be the one most prominently marked. Jumanji is made up of holes from all three of the original courses; alot from Hawk and Fear and several from Porcupine. General Scales is correct that Peckerwood is the only hole exclusively Jumanji and is really the only 'gimmick' hole on the property.....The Porky "13" includes the 'truck hole' and several of the 'Final 10' holes. This '13' has all the shortest and longest holes at Four Mound (except Peckerwood; 150') I seriously doubt anyone will shot the same score twice on it. See me if you do.:chug:Gordy

[Wobbly Bob]

Kinda disappointing certain individuals will be playing the same 13 holes 4 times in a row. Especially when it includes the third largest division. I understand all the reasons already stated for its location, but many fellow friends and club members have expressed this concern. Just speaking for those that haven't been heard yet and I really want to thank you for holding another top tiered tournament this year as I had scheduling conflicts during last years LCO.

Don't be too disappointed about playing the Porcupine 13 twice per round. There are certain advantages that go with playing that course. You go past the bathroom, water faucets and tournament central halfway through the round.

The Porcupine 13 sounds easy and while there are some easy holes on it, you might find yourself swearing at some of the more difficult holes. Another thing about the Porky 13 is, after three rounds, you should be able to shoot a 39 on the fourth time around.

In 2009 we had 32 Int. players and 1st place won an Innova Sport. If we have 30 Int. competitors this year I have a basket for 1st place in that division.

[Wobbly Bob]

As soon as Bob starts loading names of registered players to the PDGA website. :posting:As a TD I know it sucks to load 1 name at a time when they are barely trickling in:smash:. Makes more sense to wait until you have at least 5-10 names to load to make it more worth your time. Just my 2 cents based on experience as a TD.

As a habit, after my first cup of coffee in the morning, I check my email and post all tournament entries sent to me by the PDGA Sign Up (http://www.pdgasignup.com/Qstore/Qstore.cgi?CMD=011&PROD=1332661588) service.

My snail mail is delivered in the late afternoon and those entries get posted the next morning after coffee. In person payment of your entry gets you posted on the next day after coffee.

If you notice that your not posted, yet you paid online yesterday or two days ago, this means I haven't been notified by the registration service or I haven't had my coffee yet.

[Wobbly Bob]

Funny, I didn't even notice that it was Memorial Day that Monday. Good on ya! Man I hope I can make it for this great event.
Any idea when it will show on the pdga site who has signed up already?

Some people, after talking with Gordy, stay an extra night and drive home Monday morning.

[JR Stengele]

If I go this sounds like what I will do. I-90 at night is no good.

[Simmeltron]

If I go this sounds like what I will do. I-90 at night is no good.

Neither is I-90 traffic on Memorial Day.... :puke: http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3588/3416121174_9b91cbab86.jpg Just make sure and get an early start!!

[ScottW]

As for the disc option Bob my preference is always with TeeBirds so the Metal Flake ones sound pretty interesting as do the R-Wood Aviars. Just my opinion. I think this event will be pretty EPIC despite everyone's opinions on how things should be. Bob always does a great job running events and 4 Mound is always AWESOME! I too miss the days of 4 mound tourneys playing all 3 courses but Jumanji is pretty sweet in and of itself. I will continue to work on making this tourney happen for me and I am actually glad to see it taken away from the city courses - again just my opinion.

[JR Stengele]

I vote for anything metal flake. Although a champ TL is pretty cool too. Too many sweet discs out these days.

Great options btw.

[JR Stengele]

Neither is I-90 traffic on Memorial Day.... :puke: http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3588/3416121174_9b91cbab86.jpg Just make sure and get an early start!!

Good call. It has been quite a few years since I had to battle that I-90 traffic from WSU. :slapface:

I was hoping to play a new course in Spokane that day as well but I guess not.



:bricks:

[Toby Puttzinski]

There's always Amtrack-- I might be riding that train.

The LCO is one of my favorite tourneys to date (just played in '07), and Four Mounds was definitely the highlight of the weekend. I am with those who would prefer to play multiple courses in general, and that was one of the unique things I raved about when talking up the LCO.

With that said, Four Mounds is a special place and I would rather spend the whole weekend out there if given the choice, especially if I was going to camp out. I can see this change really enhancing the 'festive atmosphere' that you often get at tourneys where folks are allowed to camp on site. That was one drawback of playing at 3 seperate locations, in my opinion.

[ericedge]

Is there anywhere on the web that has pictures of this epic place? If I go this year I WILL be putting some up on dgcr. Hole #9 on Jumanji I heard is one of the best holes ever created.

Here are a few pictures (http://www.flickr.com/photos/edgepix/sets/72157626730874081/detail/) from last May.

[JR Stengele]

Here are a few pictures (http://www.flickr.com/photos/edgepix/sets/72157626730874081/detail/) from last May.

Awesome! Edge you going this year?

[coryreu]

Losing the tradition of LCO is a little disappointing, but fairly reasonable in many ways. At least for this year anyways with all the work being done at the city courses, and not to mention the challenges it takes to make the LCO successful.
Maybe what the Spokane disc golf scene needs is some new blood to start running some events. People willing to take the challenges head on with a breathe of fresh air. People who are knowledgeable about tournament play, talk to a lot of other disc golfers, and can please them by taking their comments, thoughts, and plentiful opinions into consideration. Players who have the creativity to stamp their own ideas into such novel events. Imo, bringing the tradition back, probably in the form of a new event, would be a step in the right direction, and a huge service done for disc golfers. Can anyone think of someone to take on such a "prospect"?

[Wobbly Bob]

Losing the tradition of LCO is a little disappointing, but fairly reasonable in many ways. At least for this year anyways with all the work being done at the city courses, and not to mention the challenges it takes to make the LCO successful.
Maybe what the Spokane disc golf scene needs is some new blood to start running some events. People willing to take the challenges head on with a breathe of fresh air. People who are knowledgeable about tournament play, talk to a lot of other disc golfers, and can please them by taking their comments, thoughts, and plentiful opinions into consideration. Players who have the creativity to stamp their own ideas into such novel events. Imo, bringing the tradition back, probably in the form of a new event, would be a step in the right direction, and a huge service done for disc golfers. Can anyone think of someone to take on such a "prospect"?

Cory, the tradition is not lost, just taking a year off for the project at Highbridge. Originally in November I was hoping to use Downriver, Highbridge and Camp Sekani for the three course venue. Unfortunately that wish was to go unfulfilled.

As for new TD's Deron Van Soest is cutting his teeth on this years DRO and Nancy Morgan is working on the Women's Global. I'd like to get Simmeltron on the TD training wagon.

Next year the LCO will assume the tradition that has made it a great tournament.

[Simmeltron]

It's definitely an honor to be mentioned, Bob, as I would love to become a TD down the road, but I admit I have a hefty way to go before I am ready to pull that off successfully and with style. While I am quite new to the tournament scene, I have been following it with great interest for some time and I am drinking it all in as quick as humanly possible in mega-catchup mode. This summer should be a great one as I plan to play and/or volunteer in as many events as my schedule will allow.

[Wobbly Bob]

We can always use extra counters at the score table. It's a small commitment and it is where most people get their first TD experience. You are invited to join in at both the DRO and the LCO.

[Simmeltron]

We can always use extra counters at the score table. It's a small commitment and it is where most people get their first TD experience. You are invited to join in at both the DRO and the LCO.

If I were to do this would I not be able to play in them or could I do both? :)

[Deron#31677]

If I were to do this would I not be able to play in them or could I do both? :)

You would be able to play. You can not score your own division though.

[JR Stengele]

Signed up for my first LCO. Thanks Bob and Gordy for making this happen. Looking forward to finally playing Jumanji. How does the camping onsite work? Do I just show up that Friday and follow signs to the course/camping. Should be easy to spot right?

[Gordy #21004]

Depending on how you register there may be a box you can check to prepay for camping at 4-mound. If you don't do that, that's fine. I'll have a list of any prepaid campers and I'll collect from those who haven't. The cost is $7 per person for the weekend . There is plenty of room but limited firepits. Firewood is included. Depending on conditions, you may have to observe burning advisories, but we have a fairly open and safe area for the campfires. There is lots of fresh cold water and there will be two flush toilets. You'll be able to wash up with hot water so long as the water heater keeps up. Bring a friend. Gordy:cheers:

[JR Stengele]

Thanks Gordy. I DID prepay to make things easier on you all so I will just try to get there Friday in the afternoon sometime and set up shop. Thanks again for opening up your land for us to camp/play at. Good times ahead!

:cheers:

JR S

[JR Stengele]

Hey Bob,

Just curious as to what disc you went with for the LCO. I saw a three way tie so I figured you had to probably make a management decision. :)

[Gordy #21004]

Camper's accommodations are listed above in post#56. However, Bob has let me know that some questions/requests have come in about Four Mound providing conveniences that exceed what are offered above. ......Fair enough........When Bob informs me that some serious sponsorship support accompanies requests for amenities we can reasonably oblige we'll see what we can do. I'm sure the LCO can use some help to meet and beat it's added cash objectives.:cheers:

[Gordy #21004]

If you're in Spokane this weekend for the DRO and you're thinking about the LCO next month talk to Bob. If you haven't been to 4-mound yet and would like to sneak a peek sometime in the evening this weekend talk to me and I'll see if we can get you out there. Gordy.:cheers:

[Wobbly Bob]

Player pack discs have been ordered and there are limited quantities of each. You will get to pick your disc on a first come, first pick basis.

Here's the list;


Glo Cobra w/ Swoosh stamp
Metal Flake Leopard
Metal Flake Road Runner
Metal Flake T-Bird
Ch. T Rex-X


Just a note, Dave Feldberg signed up for the LCO today. Don't wait until the last minute to sign up.

Registration closes on Wednesday, May 23, 2012 at 12:00 pm.

[JR Stengele]

will you be there friday evening so we can sign in early? Thanks again Bob and Gordy for putting this on.

[JR Stengele]

btw, how is Feldberg in the LCO and the Rose City Open? He will have a lot of driving to do. LOL.

[Simmeltron]

btw, how is Feldberg in the LCO and the Rose City Open? He will have a lot of driving to do. LOL.

His clone, "David", will be playing Rose City. Didn't you hear the PDGA approved using clones this year? I think it's an injury liability thing. ;):whistler:

[Wobbly Bob]

will you be there friday evening so we can sign in early? Thanks again Bob and Gordy for putting this on.

Tournament Check-in will start at 2pm on Friday, May 25, 2012 and close at 7:00 pm.

Late Check-in will take place on Sat. Morning between 7:30 and 8:00 am.

After 8 am on Saturday any openings will be filled from the waiting list.

[JR Stengele]

^See you Friday then Bob.

:cheers:

[Gordy #21004]

btw, how is Feldberg in the LCO and the Rose City Open? He will have a lot of driving to do. LOL.

.....Since the LCO is all at one site this year we assigned Dave his own parking space and I think that's what closed the deal.:chug:

[Stimpi]

If the tee times are right, he could helicopter back and forth to Portland.

[Gordy #21004]

If the tee times are right, he could helicopter back and forth to Portland.

..................The Heli-pad will be in the middle of the big field out toward Hawk #1 and the rental car for local travel will be waiting in Dave's personal parking spot.:jumpspin:

[JR Stengele]

Can you have him pick me up in Seattle on his way? That would be super. :dancing:

[Wobbly Bob]

Thanks to Ely Johnson and New Belgium Brewing for sponsoring the LCO this year.
:cheers::cheers::cheers:


Look for some Fat Tire, Ranger IPA and Shift Pale Lager at the tournament.
:chug::chug::chug:

[Danni]

btw, how is Feldberg in the LCO and the Rose City Open? He will have a lot of driving to do. LOL.


Yes it'll be interesting to see which tournament he ends up playing.

I'm guessing Lilac since it's a smaller field and A tier, but of course that's just a guess :D

[DGShawn]

In his VLOG here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHoLdvg6vJY&feature=g-all-u , he says he will be playing LCO and Nikko will be at the RCO...


Shawn

[Taylor]

Anybody driving over from the Seattle/Everett/Bellingham area?

I'll pitch in for gas and I've got my own tent. Just looking for a ride over.
Send me a PM or reply here.
Thanks!
-Taylor

[DMajor]

Signed up and ready to go,
Four LCO's in a row,
Time to go throw!

[prospect]

Signed up and ready to go,
Four LCO's in a row,
Time to go throw!

I didn't know dr seuss was playing...thats more exciting than feldberg :)

[Whippetbrown]

Bob Team Chump will sponsor a hole again.

[Wobbly Bob]

Bob Team Chump will sponsor a hole again.

Thanks Eric, Team Chump is great and I hope you win the Masters Division again.
:cheers:

[Gordy #21004]

The mowing has begun:chug:

[JR Stengele]

:yay::yay::yay:

[Wobbly Bob]

The Lilac City Open discs are here and I have a few Fundraisers that will be available this weekend for those folks who want a new disc now.

These are what I'll have at Downriver this Saturday and Sunday.


Glow Fire Birds:drool:
Glow Star Fires:rockon:
Glow Cobras w/swoosh:shooting:
Ch T-Rex X's:seeya:
Ch Metal Flake Leopards:trophy:
Ch Metal Flake T-Birds:cheerleader:
Ch Metal Flake Road Runners:jumpspin:
Ch Blizzard Tee Devils:cool2:
Star Tee Devils:biggrin2:


Hope to see you down at the course this weekend.

[Gordy #21004]

Please be prepared to comply with strict smoking restrictions for the upcoming LCO. Old stumps can smolder and catch fire even in the rain. Dry grass from last year is almost always present under the new green grass. Our concern with fire safety has always been at the top of our list of priorities and this year is no different. Thanks, Gordy:chug:

[Wobbly Bob]

My tournament phone was stolen last night and if you have been trying to call me you may have got no answer or you may have got a message about the phone being disconnected. The phone company is mailing me a new phone that will have the same phone number. They couldn't pin down a delivery date other than Saturday in the mail, Monday at the latest. Please be patient if you can't get through to me before Monday. My mail is delivered around 4:30 pm.

Thanks, Bob

[Gordy #21004]

... and he was marketing his fundraisers and taking apps for the LCO. It is unfortunate that Yoduh came by and as a prank made off with Bob's phone during the week leading up to the LCO. Bob will not have to get a new service arrangement as he expected because Jeremy said it was just a joke and all of you who have been trying to get in touch with Bob will be able to when Jeremy gets back from(fill in name of city here)Garberville .....It's just the LCO so it's no big deal.

[Wobbly Bob]

... and he was marketing his fundraisers and taking apps for the LCO. It is unfortunate that Yoduh came by and as a prank made off with Bob's phone during the week leading up to the LCO. Bob will not have to get a new service arrangement as he expected because Jeremy said it was just a joke and all of you who have been trying to get in touch with Bob will be able to when Jeremy gets back from(fill in name of city here)Garberville .....It's just the LCO so it's no big deal.

This isn't exactly how it came down. I will say that in this story the names have been changed to protect the innocent.

[Wobbly Bob]

I received my new phone at 5 pm today. Call if you need to register. Same number as on the reg form.

[Gordy #21004]

There will be a splitter/converter on site for the weekend that enables us to plug into a 220v and provide 4 120v tethers. The power will come from the barn so depending on how long a 10gauge or 12 gauge cord you bring that's how close to the barn you'll be. It's fairly flat there but not exactly. These will be available on a first come-first serve basis (or perhaps based on a sponsorship for the Purse)
We raised $40 for the Purse from car fees on Sunday and will continue to direct those fees to the purse thru Fri. Campers are exempt from car fee. For Sat. and Sunday registrants will also be exempt.
Preparations are coming along at an accelerated pace including a new layer of fresh gravel for the entry road. Please respect the neighbors when you arrive and go slow once you turn onto Burnett Rd.(it's dusty when dry.) I'm looking forward to seeing everyone who makes the trip this year. Gordy, LCO Groundskeeper.:cheers:

[cffcombo]

Registered online. Do I need to call or do anything else. It looked lime registration online was open until the 24 the is that correct.

[Wobbly Bob]

Registered online. Do I need to call or do anything else. It looked lime registration online was open until the 24 the is that correct.

You're ready to go. Your name is on Gordy's "Paid Camper List" so feel free to camp at any of the designated camping areas.

Online Registration is open until the 24th.

[Wobbly Bob]

:trophy: Thanks to all our sponsors; :trophy:

Spokane Disc Golf Association
Gordy's Sichuan Cafe
Physical Therapy Associates
Peter Shive & the Senior Grant Foundation
4 Mound Disc Golf Reserve
New Belgium Brewing
Innova Disc Golf
Veterans For Disc Golf
Inland North West Series
Stimpi Ridge Disc Golf and Pro Shop
Jack's Rapid Fire Plastic
Benedito's Pizza
Hotstart Inc.
Spokane Alpine Haus
The General Store
Ed Munoz
Jack Lorber
Kym Willoughby
Team Chump

We have reached the $1800 added cash threshold for the pro purse.

[JR Stengele]

Is the parking and camping side by side? What I mean is that I was planning on sleeping in my car but my buddy will be bringing a tent. Will I be able to park next to him?

[prospect]

:trophy: Thanks to all our sponsors; :trophy:

Spokane Disc Golf Association
Gordy's Sichuan Cafe
Physical Therapy Associates
Peter Shive & the Senior Grant Foundation
4 Mound Disc Golf Reserve
New Belgium Brewing
Innova Disc Golf
Veterans For Disc Golf
Inland North West Series
Stimpi Ridge Disc Golf and Pro Shop
Jack's Rapid Fire Plastic
The General Store
Ed Munoz
Jack Lorber
Kym Willoughby
Team Chump

We have reached the $1800 added cash threshold for the pro purse.


Is there an INWS this year? I haven't heard anything about it...is there a schedule out?

[Wobbly Bob]

Is there an INWS this year? I haven't heard anything about it...is there a schedule out?

No TD's stepped up to TD a INWS event this year. The INWS has however been a sponsor of every Spokane Tournament held so far.

[Wobbly Bob]

Is the parking and camping side by side? What I mean is that I was planning on sleeping in my car but my buddy will be bringing a tent. Will I be able to park next to him?

You will need to speak with Gordy concerning parking and camping.

[Gordy #21004]

LCO Welcomes Cale Leiviska:trophy:

[Gordy #21004]

LCO Welcomes Cale Leiviska:trophy:

LCO Welcomes Sarah Hokom.:trophy:

[Wobbly Bob]

Enough Adv. Men :shooting: have signed up to allow the tournament to put an Innova Sport Portable Target up for 1st place :trophy: in that division.

I have an Innova Skill Shot Portable Target to put up for the Int. Men once they reach 20 entries.:shocked:

[Yoduh]

... and he was marketing his fundraisers and taking apps for the LCO. It is unfortunate that Yoduh came by and as a prank made off with Bob's phone during the week leading up to the LCO. Bob will not have to get a new service arrangement as he expected because Jeremy said it was just a joke and all of you who have been trying to get in touch with Bob will be able to when Jeremy gets back from(fill in name of city here)Garberville .....It's just the LCO so it's no big deal.

uhuh... I don't steal from people.. I leave that up to people who follow the pdga rules.

[Yoduh]

On a positive note Bob has sent Melodie back half of her entry and has decided to let her play for the remainder of her money. So she is getting to play for $50! That's pretty cool!! 1 Montana guy signed up, one of my favorites Jon Graff and 1 person from the Tri-City's. Must need to do more promoting! Glad u got your phone Bob.

[TreeLove]

Bob has sent Melodie back half of her entry and has decided to let her play for the remainder of her money.

Interesting, I did not realize the PDGA would allow that.

[Lyounger]

Hey is there a foursome forming for ball golf on Monday after the LCO?

[Stimpi]

Hey is there a foursome forming for ball golf on Monday after the LCO?

I'm playing at Qualchan with Rick, if you want to join us.

[Gordy #21004]

Interesting, I did not realize the PDGA would allow that.

...............The balance was sponsored by INWS

[Gordy #21004]

LCO welcomes Donny Smith from Santa Cruuuz, California.:chug:

[Lyounger]

I'm playing at Qualchan with Rick, if you want to join us.

Yes please!! What's the tee time? Under Singer or Simmons? Need a fourth?

[Yoduh]

...............The balance was sponsored by INWS

Who controls the INWS funds and decides when and where they are supporting what? There are a lot of golfers that could use some sponsorship to play events locally and in the region.. If this series is paying for players to enter events than maybe it should get some sponsored players to help rejuvenate the series. :chinscratch:

[TreeLove]

...............The balance was sponsored by INWS

Ah, clear.

[Yoduh]

Ah, clear.

In case you are wondering who runs the INWS series it would be Gordy and Bob. The same entity that took the money in the first place. I am happy that they have decided to fix their mistake. In the case of the LCO or other big tournaments I completely see the need to take half a players entry on or after a Wednesday leading up to an event because that is usually when shirts have been ordered and such. I would even put that on the flyer if that was my policy. *Full refunds from dropping out of said event must be made by....date... Returning half the entry and giving out a players pack would seem to be pretty reasonable as that still leaves some money to make up for the headache of the WHOLE TD thing. If of course there is a no show or doesn't make contact within an hour or two of the start of the event than the money is gone and the players pack is in the mail.
In an event I ran I would offer full refund except for day of cancellations where I would refund the player minus the cost of their players pack.

[mazza]

hey Gordy sorry i can't make it there this year. but i'm wondering what the SSA for the 26 hole layout of the Porcupine layout. and if u can recall what is the course record for that layout????

[Sean Johnson]

My buddy and I shot the hot rounds last year at an 89 each, though I don't remember what the round rating was. Two of the toughest holes out of all three courses are on that one.

Edit: it was 942 rated and nowhere near the record.

[mazza]

i played that layout for the 2010 lco but don't recall the SSA. and i shot an 84 for a round rating of 950

[Tek Zeus]

Player pack discs
Glo Cobra w/ Swoosh stampd[/SIZE]


:cool:

[3 Fingers]

so how did rd 1 go

[General Scales]

Cale Leviska Then Tim Skellenger then Feldberg then Kyle Crabtree.

[RonTheWhip]

RESULTS?

[General Scales]

RESULTS?

I agree.

[Toby Puttzinski]

I agree.

Seconded.

Who won their respective divisions?

[hyzer88]

Open winner- Dave Feldberg
open master- Mike Werth
Advanced- Mark Yarmak

the rest I dont know

[Wobbly Bob]

What a great group of golfers we had at the LCO this year. Thanks for playing the tournament and remember to bring your friends next year.

Results, OKAY they will be up shortly this morning.

Divisional Winners;



Jr Boys ,16 - 219, Jackson Neal
Rec Women - 277, Erin Neal
Rec Men - 235, Steve Cline
Int Men - 184, Ryon Cline
Adv Sr. Grand Master - 202, Jack Lorber
Adv Grand Master Women - 275, Jaymie Crafts
Adv Grand Master - 200, Ron Weimer
Adv Master Women - 258, Darlene Kaetzel
Adv Master - 182, Andy Foster
Adv Men - 164, Mark Yarmek after a 3 hole playoff with Ryan Guiher

Pro Sr. Grand Master - 188, Jon Graff
Pro Grand Master - 211, Greg Roberts
Pro Master Women - 228, Lesli Younger
Pro Master - 187, Mike Werth
Pro Women - 202, Sarah Hokom
Pro Men - 169, Dave Feldberg


In the first round Dave Feldberg set a new Jumanji Course record at 9 under, then Tim Skellenger set it at 10 under, then Cale Leiviska set it at 11 under. Not to be undone Dave tied the record with an 11 down in the second round.

Max Dimmick hit an Ace on Jumanji #22 (150') better known as Pecker Wood to take home $485. Not too bad of a payday for an Am Player.

Thanks to those that made this years tournament possible.

[Jreynolds]

So at least 2 Adv Men shot better than Feldberg... Very interesting, great shooting guys!!

[mine all mine]

So at least 2 Adv Men shot better than Feldberg... Very interesting, great shooting guys!!
no...advanced did not play the final 10. Par 30, so no advanced players anywhere near Feldbergs score!

[DMajor]

So at least 2 Adv Men shot better than Feldberg... Very interesting, great shooting guys!!

169 was feldbergs total after the final 10 holes & nobody shot better than that. Pretty sure the guy was bogey free for all 64 holes with 24 birdies & 40 pars.

I think both the advanced players mentioned would have been in the money in pro & they had a pretty entertaining 3 hole playoff. They also rode together & played all of their 57 holes together.

Big thanks to Gordy, Wobbly & everybody else that helps them put on a great tournament. I will have a hard time passing up any future tourneys at four mounds. I f$cking love those courses.

[Gordy #21004]

So at least 2 Adv Men shot better than Feldberg... Very interesting, great shooting guys!!

...................and I beat Sarah Hokum, yea, but I usually have a better score than someone who played 10 more holes than me (except Dave, Cale, Tim, Kyle, Donny, Kenny, Lou, Big Dog, etc.....:chug: you get the point.)

[Jreynolds]

Yeah everyone, I forgot about the finals... I just saw the overall score, and was pretty impressed... Still great shooting!!

[Wobbly Bob]

This event was also a Vibram Open Qualifier. The two qualifiers are;

Josh Morris from Everson, WA.
&
Derek Fulton from Spokane, WA.

The two alternates are;

Gordy Crafts
Jaymie Crafts

Derek has already called to find out registration information and will probably be going to compete at the Vibram Open.

Congratulations you guys!

[mine all mine]

Bob was there any added cash for ams? 42 adv men and only 150 for 1st? Guys who placed 2 spots worse than me had the same cash as me..Talking with allot of the players who played this weekend not many are happy where the pay outs are, and allot of them said they would never come back..not because of the course but because of how the tournament in Spokane are ran! Where's is all of our money going? We deserve to know!

Usually there is no added cash to AM payouts, and there are usually deductions for trophies and players packs. All the money was posted on those sheets at tournament central. It was quite clear as to where all the money was, and wasn't

[Jreynolds]

How did the 7th, and 24th (yes, thats last place) MPO players qualify, but not others? It obviously was not performance based

[Rapid Fire Jack]

Bob was there any added cash for ams? 42 adv men and only 150 for 1st? Guys who placed 2 spots worse than me had the same cash as me..Talking with allot of the players who played this weekend not many are happy where the pay outs are, and allot of them said they would never come back..not because of the course but because of how the tournament in Spokane are ran! Where's is all of our money going? We deserve to know!

If there were 42 Advanced players, then at a typical 45% of field payout, at least 19 players received payouts. The ratios are established by the PDGA payout charts, and can be rounded to the nearest $5. If you have questions about how your payout was determined, I'm sure that Bob would be happy to provide the calculations to you. Be assured that any TD of a sanctioned event is donating a huge amount of personal time and energy to make the event a success for the players, and I would hope that you were as quick and as public to thank Bob and his helpers as you were to question his methods.

[Gordy #21004]

This event was also a Vibram Open Qualifier. The two qualifiers are;

Josh Morris from Everson, WA.
&
Derek Fulton from Spokane, WA.

The two alternates are;

Gordy Crafts
Jaymie Crafts

Derek has already called to find out registration information and will probably be going to compete at the Vibram Open.

Congratulations you guys!

............................While Jaymie and I both consider it an honor to be the designated alternates to the Vibram Open, we respectfully withdraw. Cheers to all who shared their Memorial Day weekend with us at Four M:cheers:nd.

[Rideout]

Bob was there any added cash for ams? 42 adv men and only 150 for 1st? Guys who placed 2 spots worse than me had the same cash as me..Talking with allot of the players who played this weekend not many are happy where the pay outs are, and allot of them said they would never come back..not because of the course but because of how the tournament in Spokane are ran! Where's is all of our money going? We deserve to know!



Dang - pretty harsh public post following what was probably a fantastic weekend on a private piece of disc golf paradise.

You had it right - just don't come back if you don't like what you're getting. My suggestion - if you want to figure out "where our money is going" - try asking in a manner that isn't accusing and threatening - no promises, but that might help. Also, maybe try your first approach in private instead of on a public forum notorious for comments that get blown way out of proportion.

Big amateur fields can often end up with payouts so flat that several players may end up receiving an amount that has been duplicated.

I never open my books on the tourneys I run and I'd laugh my butt off if you threw a phrase like "deserve to know" at me.

Those payouts look huge!!!


Mike Rideout


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[Wobbly Bob]

How did the 7th, and 24th (yes, thats last place) MPO players qualify, but not others? It obviously was not performance based

It was performance based, but you had to pay a $10 entry fee to be in the race. All the info was on the flyer. I really thought people would sign-up for a shot to go play Maple Hill, but the economic atmosphere here in Washington may be too depressed to allow people to travel that far. Only four people signed up to compete for the spots.

[Wobbly Bob]

Bob was there any added cash for ams? 42 adv men and only 150 for 1st? Guys who placed 2 spots worse than me had the same cash as me..Talking with allot of the players who played this weekend not many are happy where the pay outs are, and allot of them said they would never come back..not because of the course but because of how the tournament in Spokane are ran! Where's is all of our money going? We deserve to know!

1st place took the Innova Sport worth $225 instead of the $150 schwag value. The ADV Division was paid out at 137%. Thanks for your input, it has been duly noted and filed appropriately.

[JR Stengele]

Wanted to give a big shot out to Bob, Gordy, and Jaymie, and all those who helped with the upkeep at the LCO this year. The courses played great and it was a lot of fun to watch world class pros playing the final 10. There was a lot of great competition out there this year in every field and a lot of positive energy. I appreciate Gordy and his wife for opening their private land up to over 100 players and allowing us to stay on their land for the weekend. Nothing better than waking up and walking 20 feet to Jumanji. THose three courses were not for the weak minded, especially with all that wind! Thank you to all I played with and and even bigger thank you to those who put this together.

[Matt B.]

Bob was there any added cash for ams? 42 adv men and only 150 for 1st? Guys who placed 2 spots worse than me had the same cash as me..Talking with allot of the players who played this weekend not many are happy where the pay outs are, and allot of them said they would never come back..not because of the course but because of how the tournament in Spokane are ran! Where's is all of our money going? We deserve to know!

Organic - Please fill out your profile with your full name.

[Stimpi]

So at least 2 Adv Men shot better than Feldberg... Very interesting, great shooting guys!!

Considering they shot 10 holes less than Dave...

[KCunique]

I saw a few people taking pics during tournament rounds. Where do we go to view those?

[3 Fingers]

Organic - Please fill out your profile with your full name.

My guess he's the guy that finished 15th JOE .C is his (AKA) :whistler:

[Jreynolds]

It was performance based, but you had to pay a $10 entry fee to be in the race. All the info was on the flyer. I really thought people would sign-up for a shot to go play Maple Hill, but the economic atmosphere here in Washington may be too depressed to allow people to travel that far. Only four people signed up to compete for the spots.

Got it...makes perfect sense to me now. It sure would be a financial hardship to travel that far, but I'm sure it would be a great trip. Nice shooting everyone, congrats on the Vibram Open qualifiers, hopefully you 2 shoot lights out, and show them the true talent of the NW

[Lyounger]

... All the money was posted on those sheets at tournament central. It was quite clear as to where all the money was, and wasn't

I appreciate the fact our TD's go through the effort to print out a breakdown of exactly where the tournament fees go. They usually post this on Saturday evening so all players can figure where they need to place in order to make enough cash for gas money to get home and buy some beer for the road.

This sarcasm is not meant as a personal comment or attack on the oringinal poster who was confused and possibly didn't think things through before typing. I do however continue to find myself completely amazed at the lack of understanding of how tournaments are run and the at the quickness and severity of the criticism that follows.

This event was FULL of contributions that some people will never comprehend.

So....

Thank you Bob for TDing. Thank you Jaymie and Gordon for hosting this tourney. Thank you Joe, Lisa, Darin, Kym, Jason, Tom and many others that contributed your time and effort.

The course was pristine, including the camp and parking areas. I appreciated the maps and the new tee sign holders. I don't think we had any groups that missplayed holes this year. It was so nice to have the PA system for announcements and constant music. I know we'll have some great pictures available soon. And holy crap, the suprise FREE chicken dinner, ice cold keg and several cases of micro brews that were GRACIOUSLY donated by ???? WOW!

Class act folks! This was a wonderful tournament and you all did a great job to promote disc golf and show us a fantastic time.

Thank You...Thank You...Thank You!!!

[coryreu]

Can anyone in Spokane get sponsored by the INWS? We all could use some help!

You post publicly that you're not satisfied with Spokane's tournaments. Questioning the director's payouts. AND you want to be sponsored?
Good luck with that.

[psychodwarf]

I saw a few people taking pics during tournament rounds. Where do we go to view those?

i am going thru them now BUT it does take a lil bit of time to go thru 800 pics as soon as my program is done going thru them i will post a link ..sorry for the delay:bowing::bowing:

[Lyounger]

Can anyone in Spokane get sponsored by the INWS? We all could use some help!

I guess I'm feeling feisty this morning because I feel he need to respond to this as well.

I don't know for sure but I imagine the following scenerio took place:

One of the local players signed up with an injury she honestly thought she could play through. Unfortunately she tweaked it playing in a different tournament and asked to withdraw from the LCO 12 days before the tournament. In order to be consistant with his previous interpretations and rulings of the PDGA guidelines on withdrawls, the TD refunded half the entry fee. In order to be consistant with his big heart, compassion for people and dedication to disc golf, the TD put on his other hat as one of the representatives of the Inland NW Series (which is not a 'club' by the way, but simply an effort by Bob and Gordy to help grow local disc golf tournaments.) The INWS is not in operation this year which means there are no 'funds'. All of the money generated by the series is paid out to the participants each year. So in all likelyhood, Bob and Gordon donated their own money to sponsor this player when she decided she was feeling healthy enough to play. She played well as it turned and cashed in the Pro Women's division which consisted of a phenomenal field.

I enjoy the INWS and am hopeful we can see it in action in 2013 but that will only happen if other TDs decide to step up and join the effort.

Quite honestly with the amount of criticism TDs get I'd be surprised if it happens.

[ScottW]

Well stated Leslie! It certainly is comments like what was mentioned previously that has extinguished my desire to run another tourney. I had an incident happen at one of my sanctioned events last year that made me decide to not run an event this year. Kudos to those who choose to do it and BOOOO to those who crap on their efforts, for those who have never run a tournament - sanctioned or otherwise - it kinda sucks so keep in mind that kind words go a long ways for some but harsh words can go even further. Maybe next year I'll get back into tourney mode but it's not looking too good right now.

[Wobbly Bob]

And holy crap, the suprise FREE chicken dinner, ice cold keg and several cases of micro brews that were GRACIOUSLY donated by ???? WOW!
Thank You...Thank You...Thank You!!!

Jaymie and Gordy supplied the chicken and keg.

Ely Johnson and New Belgium brewing donated the Micros.

[psychodwarf]

http://s1242.photobucket.com/albums/gg533/Lisa_Mcelyea/LCO%202012/

Here is the link to the pics we took at LCO this year, please feel free to tag and share them.

[DMajor]

Great Pictures!

[LJ Jubner]

Here is the link for the LCO evaluation

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dEh0VGZBYmI2eEhBcl96QjZ1NElzdWc6M A#gid=0

[Yoduh]

In order to be consistant with his previous interpretations and rulings of the PDGA guidelines on withdrawls, the TD refunded half the entry fee. In order to be consistant with his big heart, compassion for people and dedication to disc golf, the TD put on his other hat as one of the representatives of the Inland NW Series (which is not a 'club' by the way, but simply an effort by Bob and Gordy to help grow local disc golf tournaments.) The INWS is not in operation this year which means there are no 'funds'. All of the money generated by the series is paid out to the participants each year. So in all likelyhood, Bob and Gordon donated their own money to sponsor this player when she decided she was feeling healthy enough to play.

She played and was in pain for part of the first round and all of the 2nd round. She figured playing was better than just losing her money. The PDGA allows for TD's to not take players money which actually helps grow local events by not creating ill will towards TD's who do not come off well excericising something that was meant for the World Championships, where events have been filled for weeks and players are coming from around the world. Alas even in these situations entry's are usually returned with 12 days advance notice.

[mine all mine]

She played and was in pain for part of the first round and all of the 2nd round. She figured playing was better than just losing her money. The PDGA allows for TD's to not take players money which actually helps grow local events by not creating ill will towards TD's who do not come off well excericising something that was meant for the World Championships, where events have been filled for weeks and players are coming from around the world. Alas even in these situations entry's are usually returned with 12 days advance notice.

Dude, you really need to let this crap go! It is seriously getting on all our nerves (well mine and possibly someone else's) that you keep bringing this crap up like you are the person stuck in the middle fighting for the innocent. The person played the tournament, cashed in the tournament and should be happy that they could play that well injured!

No one cares what you think the interpretation of the rules are, whether they only apply to WC's or not...A book that is published as the rules should be followed as a book published as the RULES!

[psychodwarf]

STILL WHINNING I SEE yoduh ....you ever gonna quit BEATING that dead horse or are you just gonna sleep with it and bring it up all the time ?

[Lyounger]

Quite honestly with the amount of criticism TDs get I'd be surprised if it happens.

Yep, my point exactly.....

[Yoduh]

Yep, my point exactly.....

She had her take on what happened. I know what happened. I know it sounded good but the truth shall be known.

[LJ Jubner]

So it sounds to me yoduh your gripe is with the pdga. Are you this adamant on it's forum
or are you just blowhard like here?

[3 Fingers]

This is getting so old it's becoming ANAL

[Lyounger]

...I had an incident happen at one of my sanctioned events last year that made me decide to not run an event this year...keep in mind that kind words go a long ways for some but harsh words can go even further. Maybe next year I'll get back into tourney mode but it's not looking too good right now.

Scott, this makes me sad. You are a GREAT TD. I have always enjoyed the professional manner you conduct yourself. You have such constructive and helpful input (I can't even call it criticism.)

It's a loss to not have you run more events. I hope you decide to return despite the unfortunate behavior of some people.

See you this weekend!!

[Gordy #21004]

On Thursday night before the Lco Cale and Dave arrived in Spokane. Their first contest was over the queen bed available to them. So Cale conceded the bed to Dave Thursday night and slept on the couch.... Friday night they decided they could sleep in the bed together because they're buds, ya know, tearing it up on the Non-Stop DG Tour(and, according to Dave, they're secure in their manhood). But by 2:00 in the morning Cale can't take it anymore what with Dave's snoring and night terrors, so Cale bales back to the living room to the couch.....Fair enough.....But by Sat. morning when the bagels and grapefruits are on and the Tourney is at hand Cale challenges Dave for the bed over who shoots the best round on Jumanji....Fair enough. So Dave goes out and shoots a bogey-free course record 9 under. The same round Skelly shoots a course record 10 under, busting the record by 3. And, as justice would have it, Cale, who, unlike the other two is competing in his first round at Jumanji, shoots another record buster of 11 under and Dave gets the couch. Suffice it to say Dave needed an extra blanket by morning. I think it was the extra blanket that pulled Dave through in the end, like the grapefruit did for Cale on the Sat. round.
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[3 Fingers]

Great story Gordy. LMFAO...:laughing: Thanks for sharing !!!

[bryan_luoma]

On Thursday night before the Lco Cale and Dave arrived in Spokane. Their first contest was over the queen bed available to them. So Cale conceded the bed to Dave Thursday night and slept on the couch.... Friday night they decided they could sleep in the bed together because they're buds, ya know, tearing it up on the Non-Stop DG Tour(and, according to Dave, they're secure in their manhood). But by 2:00 in the morning Cale can't take it anymore what with Dave's snoring and night terrors, so Cale bales back to the living room to the couch.....Fair enough.....But by Sat. morning when the bagels and grapefruits are on and the Tourney is at hand Cale challenges Dave for the bed over who shoots the best round on Jumanji....Fair enough. So Dave goes out and shoots a bogey-free course record 9 under. The same round Skelly shoots a course record 10 under, busting the record by 3. And, as justice would have it, Cale, who, unlike the other two is competing in his first round at Jumanji, shoots another record buster of 11 under and Dave gets the couch. Suffice it to say Dave needed an extra blanket by morning. I think it was the extra blanket that pulled Dave through in the end, like the grapefruit did for Cale on the Sat. round.
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1046, 1053, and 1059 r3sp3ctiv3ly.
I am not familiar with Jumanji. Was the 2012 LCO layout OG; or modified from previous layouts?

[Gordy #21004]

The only modification from the 2011 LCO layout were the constant 30-40 gusts during the Sat. round that came from any direction on any hole for the entire round... The changes made since Brian Cook's -7 round don't seem like much(hole 6 is much harder and hole 24 is now an ace run below the cliff), but Saturday's winds make Cale's round that much more impressive.
Peckerwood is now two years old. Happy Birthday to You!:biggrin2:

[Gordy #21004]

The course record that Brian Cook set on Jumanji three years ago was actually broken by Kyle Crabtree with a -9 72 at the 2011 LCO. To give credit where its due, belated congratulations to you, Kyle, for that round. All of you guys are doing the course proud.:trophy:

[Yoduh]

Reading the round scores and knowing the conditions and the course really well I think the ratings were a tad low. They look about 20 points low. My best round out there had 13 birdies and 7 boges that all came after a 45 minute break from up on old 23. There are a lot of birdies out there but the winds sure alter that a lot. The course is a par 82 though. The 600 footer that finishes up hill with ob all down the left side easily averages well over a 4. No doubt that the course work that was reported also helped contribute to the better scores. Better tees and trees in the fairway being improved are a big step in making any course play more true to what it should.

[Gordy #21004]

Thanks to Dave Cook for hauling the gravel up the Central Mound to build up the tees at Jumanji #s 7 and 8 and just being around for all the days leading up to the event to finish the hit list. During the event he spotted on the 'Porcupine' hole( that prickly diagonal uphill one with all the deep thick bushes on each side) He came back to Tourney Central looking like he just survived the next episode of Man vs. Wild............
...and to Wayne Miller who made the house presentable for food service and comfort. Wayne cut and carried the 1/2" x 10' Fly Pads up those hills to top off the gravel Dave put in place and also cut and installed another 16 of the new pads.. These are not easy jobs and Wayne and his crew got it done on the fly as Friday approached and the rolls of rubber pads had just arrived in town from Ohio.........
......and thanks to Joe who weed whacked until his arms fell right off. That's love you can't buy..and for running the water coolers out and taking all those pictures. I remember a dozen others who did all kinds of last minute jobs that MADE A DIFFERENCE......
.....and the Campers; the place was beautiful when Jaymie and I came out on Monday morning to pick up. I found one pair of women's purple Nikes and a half a bag of cheesy Kaiser rolls. That was about it; no butts, no bottle caps, no broken glass. we're ready for the next one....
......And Deron van Soest who stood by Bob's side the whole time. Now there's a tough job! This one's on me:chug:

[LJ Jubner]

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[Wobbly Bob]

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[Gordy #21004]

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................if anyone knew of all the things you do to make it better, better, better, better; well, there goes your reputation.:evilgrin: