2012 Beaver State Fling presented by Keen Footwear

[Bullseye]

2012 Beaver State Fling presented by Keen Footwear
A PDGA National Tour Elite Series event

Stumptown Disc Golf is once again partnering with KEEN Footwear and Next Adventure to bring you the 2012 Beaver State Fling on the weekend of June 15th - 17th. This PDGA National Tour Elite Series event will once again take place at Milo McIver State Park in Estacada, Oregon, where two spectacular 18 hole courses line the banks of the Clackamas River. The Beaver State Fling (www.beaverstatefling.com) has a tradition of excellence that continues to draw the best disc golfers in the world back to the grandeur of the Pacific Northwest year after year. Tournament directors Jeff Mittl and Jeff Hagerty have joined forces again to ensure that tradition continues.

In addition to the NT and the A-Tier there will also be plenty of side events to entertain the masses before, during and after the rounds, including our epic mini disc golf course. As with years past, we will again be using both the East and West courses which are played as pro par sixty with lengths in excess of 8000 feet. Camping will also be offered again on site this year with more space for RV’s and tent campers, including a space for Thursday camping arrivals. Reservations for the parks designated campground can be made at www.reserveamerica.com.

We will be offering 160 Professional spots this year for the NT and 144 Amateur spots for the A-Tier event. As always, we are hoping more ladies will make the trip this year to compete for the crown and help round out the field of competitors. The professional divisions will be playing 2 rounds again on Friday, competing for the mid-day tee times on Saturday. Their final round will be held on Sunday to wrap up the weekend of competition. The Amateur Divisions will be playing two rounds on Saturday with tee times. The first round will be in the morning and the second round will be in the later part of the afternoon. The third and final round will be with tee times on Sunday morning.

Professional Registration:
Due to the overwhelming demand for this event and our own desire to attract the very best players this sport has to offer we will once again be instituting tiered, ratings-based registration for the NT side of the event.

Here is how tiered, ratings-based registration will work:


Phase 1: 03/19/2012 @ 6:00pm PST - Registration opens for all 1000+ rated MPO players, plus all FPO women.
Phase 2: 04/02/2012 @ 6:00pm PST - Registration opens for all 970+ rated professional players, regardless of division, plus all age-based professional divisions.
Phase 3: 04/16/2012 @ 6:00pm PST - Registration opens for all remaining professional players.


Important Notes:

Do not ignore your registration window. This event will fill.
We will have division size caps in place to ensure non-mpo divisions remain viable.
Anyone attempting to register before their tier is open will have their registration rejected.
We will be holding a limited number of slots for 2012 National Tour Champions and returning 2011 Beaver State Fling MPO & FPO Champions.
We require at least 4 players to create a division.


Professional Division Sizes:
(Note: these may change slightly based on registration trends. For example: If we receive more than 20 FPO registrations in the first phase of registration we will accept those entries.)

Division - Initial # of Slots
MPO - 80
FPO - 20
MPM - 32

This leaves 28 slots available for "other" professional divisions provided they meet the four players per division requirement.

Amateur Registration:
Registration for the amateur side of this event has proven to be quite the undertaking in the past. Historically, the event has filled so quickly that registration felt more like a case of who has the best internet connection, or who can race home to get registered in time. In an attempt to make this as fair as possible for everyone, and with the support of our primary sponsors, we have obtained permission from the PDGA to institute a lottery system for amateur registration.

We will open pre-registration AT 6:00PM on 03/26/2012 and it will remain open until 4/8/2012. During that time period anyone who would like to play in the event can pre-register at no cost. At the end of the pre-registration window we will sort all prospective players by division and begin randomly pulling names. We will then send an email to those people containing an email link where they can formally register for the event. Players who are selected will have 2 weeks to register for the event, after which time their slot is forfeited and it goes back in to the pool.

Once the event has filled, all remaining names from the initial two week pre-registration window will be randomly sorted and placed on the waiting list. If a slot opens we will pull names from the waiting list in order.

Important Notes:

We will have division size caps in place to ensure non-MA1 divisions remain viable.
We require at least 4 players to create a division.


Amateur Division Sizes:
(Note: these may change slightly based on registration trends. For example: If we receive more than 16 FA1 registrations we will accept those entries.)

Division - Initial # of Slots
MA1 - 72
FA1 - 16
MM1 - 32

This leaves 24 slots available for "other" amateur divisions provided the division meets the four players per division requirement.

We understand some people may not approve of this plan, but after much deliberation we decided this method of registration was as fair as we could possibly make it. We are also confident it will alleviate the server-load issues we have had in the past during registration. We hope people understand the dilemma we face when putting on an event with far greater demand than available spots.

If you have any questions or concerns, please feel free to contact us through the Beaver State Fling website.

Jeff Mittl & Jeff Hagerty - CO-TDs

2012 Beaver State Fling

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[snap7times]

What?? Lottery? That is so bogus.... wait, I'm a pro... above 970 too... ohh baby gimme a chance gimme a chance... April 2nd, 6pm, you are mine, mineeeeeee! -13 on the east coming in 2012!

[emmarose]

happy birthday to me! happy birthday to me! happy biiiiirrrthdaaaayy dear eeeemmma rooooh-ohhhse... happy birthday to me.

cha cha cha.

[DanD]

Great work! Can't wait for this year.... and hey, for those that don't make the lottery, volunteer! Its a lot of fun and you get some of the best seats in the house.

[Bullseye]

Great work! Can't wait for this year.... and hey, for those that don't make the lottery, volunteer! Its a lot of fun and you get some of the best seats in the house.

Thank you very much for mentioning this. There is no way we could pull off an event like this without all of our awesome volunteers. I've always been particularly impressed when I see the same people volunteering year after year. You guys rock!

Thanks Again!

[GrummyBear]

Thank you very much for mentioning this. There is no way we could pull off an event like this without all of our awesome volunteers. I've always been particularly when I see the same people volunteering year after year. You guys rock!

Thanks Again!
Volunteering was great last year, and all staff and players were very respectful.

But, I'd rather play this year! Getting my shamrocks ready..

["Over the Hill" Bob]

Thank you very much for mentioning this. There is no way we could pull off an event like this without all of our awesome volunteers. I've always been particularly when I see the same people volunteering year after year. You guys rock!

Thanks Again!

Volunteers rock! :rockon: Volunteering rocks! :rockon: BSF rocks in large part because of Volunteers! :rockon:

Bob

[Magilla]

OK, so I know it's a bit early.....

Any idea as to when the course will be set in it's tourney layout?

Just trying to decide when to head over for a few days of practice before the event. I have 2 weeks off from Memorial day thru June 10th and am going to camp at the campground for 5 days or so and get some rounds in.. :yay:

Cant wait..

:cheers:

[NWDiscer]

OK, so I know it's a bit early.....

Any idea as to when the course will be set in it's tourney layout?

Just trying to decide when to head over for a few days of practice before the event. I have 2 weeks off from Memorial day thru June 10th and am going to camp at the campground for 5 days or so and get some rounds in.. :yay:

Cant wait..

:cheers:


it is in the ground right now till the end of the month..... :trophy:

[Toby Puttzinski]

The lottery seems really fair to me, especially since I was a lucky winner last year and got to play my first BSF. What a great experience, and if I don't hit the jackpot this year, I'm hoping to make it down to spectate and volunteer if time allows.

Fundraising idea> for $5, each AM could have the option to get their name in the hat twice. (kind of like the Golden Ticket I guess)

[Bullseye]

Reminder: Registration Phase 1 For FPO & 1000+ rated MPOs opens tonight at 6:00pm.

[TreeLove]

Is it full yet?

[snap7times]

Remember Jeff... Handicapped spot held... for me... April 2nd... right?...

[Bullseye]

Remember Jeff... Handicapped spot held... for me... April 2nd... right?...

I've never thought of you as handicapped Nathan... so... nope. :biggrin2:

[Bruce]

How many sub 1000 rated golfers have tried to sneak in, Jeff?

[Flash]

How many sub 1000 rated golfers have tried to sneak in, Jeff?

None we are working with Professionals here.

[Sam]

Please post numbers and interesting entries. Very excited for another most excellent tourney!

[Bullseye]

None we are working with Professionals here.

Clearly THE post of the day.

[jeverett]

Please post numbers and interesting entries. Very excited for another most excellent tourney!

The official PDGA registration list looks like it's being updated:

http://www.pdga.com/tournament_results/77585

23 Players in so far, it looks like.

[Bruce]

Only 62 MPO spots left!

[mine all mine]

Only 62 MPO spots left!

Are you happy about that or just trying to rouse some interest?

[Bruce]

Both I guess, but it means i'll have to try my hand at the lottery this year!

[Flash]

Percentage of 1000 rated players by state near the west coast that have signed up
Wa 100%
Or 100%
Ca 20%
Az 50%
Nv 100%

But hey there are only 150 total 1000 rated players in the World!

[Nichola]

A friend of mine asked me the question last night, I searched for it, and I don't see anything listed on registration information. He wants to know what time does Amateur pre registration opens tomorrow? Same time as Pro registrations time, 6 pm?

[NWDiscer]

A friend of mine asked me the question last night, I searched for it, and I don't see anything listed on registration information. He wants to know what time does Amateur pre registration opens tomorrow? Same time as Pro registrations time, 6 pm?



this is not an official BSF response.

"pre-reg" for Ams LOTTERY opens tomm. till the 8th of April. so any time between will get you a lottery slot no guarantees of entry to the BSF.

hope this helps :dancing:

[Bullseye]

A friend of mine asked me the question last night, I searched for it, and I don't see anything listed on registration information. He wants to know what time does Amateur pre registration opens tomorrow? Same time as Pro registrations time, 6 pm?

Yep. 6pm. But there is no hurry at all. First doesn't help your chances at all.

[Bullseye]

In case you forgot...

We're opening amateur lottery pre-registration for the 2012 Beaver State Fling tonight at 6:00pm on www.beaverstatefling.com (http://www.beaverstatefling.com). You will have 2 weeks to get your name in before we start selecting names.

Jeff H

[Bullseye]

Registration for the 2012 Beaver State Fling Amateur Lottery is now open. (http://www.beaverstatefling.com/REG/BSF2012/AM-PreReg)

[Sam]

My entry has been submitted to the Lottery. Well good...

[Flash]

If you are having difficulties using the online form to submit your lottery entry please use the contact form on the website, select website feedback.

Working Browsers
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If you are using a different browser and or version please identify that information. If you use the form and are successful please let me know through a PM on this site and I will add your browser to the list above.

[juda4936]

The wait begins :dancing:

[ski2man]

So the information on the website cited above for am registration doesn't seem quite right..maybe someone can clarify if this is what it should be or someone can fix it: It says they will notify on April the 15th, a Friday. Friday is the 13th. It also says it's for the 2011 BSF.

I'm mainly posting this as a note for those who put up the site so they can fix it, that's all. Just an FYI, don't mean to be picky.
thanks....hope I get in! good luck to all.

[scottishrob]

Got my entry into the lottery. Now all I have to do is get drawn and win. Lol.

[Bullseye]

So the information on the website cited above for am registration doesn't seem quite right..maybe someone can clarify if this is what it should be or someone can fix it: It says they will notify on April the 15th, a Friday. Friday is the 13th. It also says it's for the 2011 BSF.

I'm mainly posting this as a note for those who put up the site so they can fix it, that's all. Just an FYI, don't mean to be picky.
thanks....hope I get in! good luck to all.

Thanks. I think I got it... or at least close enough for now...

[runnaman]

Can we know how many ams entered already?

[Bullseye]

Can we know how many ams entered already?

over 100 in the first 6 hours.

[LegoRules]

over 100 in the first 6 hours.

How many of those are women?u

Cindy :)

[Bullseye]

I can easily check the total number of entries submitted, but I'm going to give things a few days before I start digging through the entire report.

[mowens404]

over 100 in the first 6 hours.


How many am's will be picked to play in the tournament?:chinscratch:

[LegoRules]

I can easily check the total number of entries submitted, but I'm going to give things a few days before I start digging through the entire report.

Totally understandable. I can wait a few days ;)

Cindy :)

[mowens404]

well, once again, I went back and read and answered my question. maybe I should start doing that more often.

[NWDiscer]

How many am's will be picked to play in the tournament?:chinscratch:

144? again not an official BSF response....:chug:

[Bullseye]

well, once again, I went back and read and answered my question. maybe I should start doing that more often.

When all else fails... read the manual. :biggrin2:

[Flash]

Registration Update: 27 march 2012 11:41 am
FM1 1
MA1 99
FW1 9
MM1 25
MG1 15

Total 149

[CarlitosBonitos]

the lottery that is... Fingers crossed for a BSF entry. Good luck to the other entrants but only to 98 of you!

[LegoRules]

Registration Update: 27 march 2012 11:41 am
FM1 1
MA1 99
FW1 9
MM1 25
MG1 15

Total 149

Sweet 9 FW1s already! Thanks Mike :)

[Flash]

Registration Update: 28 March 2012, 12:53 pm

FW1 14
FM1 2
MA1 133
MM1 32
MG1 19
MS1 2

Total 202

[Wes Hansen]

Anyone else notice how old the AMs are getting?
Over 25% (assuming I got my math right this time!?) are over 40!

[dooley]

Anyone else notice how old the AMs are getting?
Over 25% (assuming I got my math right this time!?) are over 40!

shhhh!:wink2:

[Bullseye]

Lottery Registration Update: 29 March 2012, 10:20 pm

FW1 - 14
FM1 - 2
MA1 - 147
MM1 - 36
MG1 - 21
MS1 - 2

Total 222

[mowens404]

Lottery Registration Update: 29 March 2012, 10:20 pm

FW1 - 14
FM1 - 2
MA1 - 147
MM1 - 36
MG1 - 21
MS1 - 2

Total 222


Will all women be able to play? Do you choose lottery based off of division or just randomely pull all names and sort them after they've been accepted?

[Flash]

Will all women be able to play? Do you choose lottery based off of division or just randomely pull all names and sort them after they've been accepted?

Matt,

This is one of those times where you need to go back and read the first post!

[Wes Hansen]

Jeff-
Just to add to and confuse/clarify all the lottery chatter.
From your description of divisional spots held for AMs....
If the lottery closed today would the MG1 division get 21 of the 24 "other" reserved spots and the FM1 and MS1 entries be absorbed into the lottery of one of the 4 available divisions?
Know what I mean?
Is everyone getting older?

[mowens404]

Matt,

This is one of those times where you need to go back and read the first post!



This is why I did so bad in school:slapface:. I'm just learning how to read. i'll try to keep up. :jumpspin:


I did go back and read, must have overlooked it.

[Bullseye]

Jeff-
Just to add to and confuse/clarify all the lottery chatter.
From your description of divisional spots held for AMs....
If the lottery closed today would the MG1 division get 21 of the 24 "other" reserved spots and the FM1 and MS1 entries be absorbed into the lottery of one of the 4 available divisions?
Know what I mean?
Is everyone getting older?


Wes,

I will have a much better idea what divisions will remain once the lottery registration closes, but I will definitely be filling cards within each division in groups of 4.

I will start with the smallest divisions first. Any players who registered for a division that does not meet the 4 person requirement will be automagically dropped down to the next division that is appropriate for them before we draw the names for that particular division.

To answer your other question. MG1 is not automatically getting 21 spots. I will balance the divisions as fairly as I possibly can based on overall demand.

Jeff

[Flash]

This is why I did so bad in school:slapface:. I'm just learning how to read. i'll try to keep up. :jumpspin:


I did go back and read, must have overlooked it.

No worries but just so you know I bet Jeff will allow as many as possible FW1's that sign up. Just my own observations. You know there are going to be 72 MA1's so the math breaks down to 5 divisions for 72 slots.

[mowens404]

No worries but just so you know I bet Jeff will allow as many as possible FW1's that sign up. Just my own observations. You know there are going to be 72 MA1's so the math breaks down to 5 divisions for 72 slots.


That was more my question. Will women be turned down. Erin signed up and was just curious if there was a chance she wont get in.

[Bullseye]

That was more my question. Will women be turned down. Erin signed up and was just curious if there was a chance she wont get in.


There is always a chance that she might not, BUT unless the FA1 division goes crazy... it is unlikely. At this point, I can't make any promises.

Jeff

[Matt B.]

Is everyone getting older?

This is my understanding of the situation.

[Bullseye]

Lottery Registration Update: 30 March 2012, 07:30 am

FW1 - 14
FM1 - 3
MA1 - 157
MM1 - 42
MG1 - 23
MS1 - 3

Total 242

[Bullseye]

Alright you crazy kids... stop registering for the lottery more than once. :smash:

You're not fooling ANYONE. :bricks:

To make this perfectly clear... again, NO ONE will have their name in this lottery more than one time. In fact, the more times you submit your name the more WORK you make for me, which makes it much more likely that I might "accidentally" delete ALL of your entries leaving you no chance whatsoever of playing.

Now wouldn't THAT be sad. :rolleyes2:

[Flash]

Drop the Anvil on them Hagerty
http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h139/flash_25296/Emoticons/anvil-drop.gif

Club them like a baby seal
http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h139/flash_25296/Emoticons/club.gif

Put them in Lock down
http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h139/flash_25296/Emoticons/prisoner.gif

Something is bound to work, or we could just send them an email stating they have been removed from the Lottery.

[Bullseye]

Registration Update: 02 April 2012 09:45 am

FM1 5
MA1 184
FW1 18
MM1 50
MG1 25
MS1 3

Total 285

[aksargon14]

Could have also been the website. I just registered and it took 5 tries to get through.

[Flash]

Could have also been the website. I just registered and it took 5 tries to get through.

What is your Operating System and Internet Browser used?

[Sam]

50 MM1. Man... if you guys could somehow let us all in, this would be the biggest MM1 field in PDGA history outside of a World's Championship. Any wiggle room here? :)

[Matt B.]

50 MM1. Man... if you guys could somehow let us all in, this would be the biggest MM1 field in PDGA history outside of a World's Championship. Any wiggle room here? :)

Take off your girdle and sign up for MPM tonight, there's a solution.

;)

[Bullseye]

Take off your girdle and sign up for MPM tonight, there's a solution.

;)

You actually have a great point here. His odds would be a LOT better tonight.

Jeff

[LegoRules]

Registration Update: 02 April 2012 09:45 am

FM1 5
MA1 184
FW1 18
MM1 50
MG1 25
MS1 3

Total 285

WOW 18 FW1s. :rockon: Guys what is the record for advanced women at the BSF? Also 5 FM1s. That is so cool. :yay:

Cindy :)

[Matt B.]

You actually have a great point here. His odds would be a LOT better tonight.

Jeff

There's no "actually" about it, I always have a great point!

[Reichard]

50 MM1. Man... if you guys could somehow let us all in, this would be the biggest MM1 field in PDGA history outside of a World's Championship. Any wiggle room here? :)

Woot, hope I make it in!!!!!!

[dooley]

Woot, hope I make it in!!!!!!

come....join us tonite on the darkside and your odds would be better:shooting::seeya:

[Magilla]

:yay::yay:

Im in.......boy that was easy.

:cheers:

[dooley]

:yay::yay:

Im in.......boy that was easy.

:cheers:

what site ? jeff cox and i cant seem 2 get on account

[dooley]

what site ? jeff cox and i cant seem 2 get on account

nevermind

[Matt B.]

what site ? jeff cox and i cant seem 2 get on account

4discgolf.com

Make sure you choose an option in the "make a donation" box, even if you choose "no thanks"....spent a tense ten minutes on that one....

[dooley]

4discgolf.com

Make sure you choose an option in the "make a donation" box, even if you choose "no thanks"....spent a tense ten minutes on that one....

thanks matt...spent the same 10

[emmarose]

20 FPOs... someone do the math and tell me if that's more than 7%...

[OneDarkRebel]

50 MM1. Man... if you guys could somehow let us all in, this would be the biggest MM1 field in PDGA history outside of a World's Championship. Any wiggle room here? :)

Sorry to burst your bubble Sam, this years AM Champs at Bowling Green had a field of 74 MM1 players...70 finished the tourney...Find yourself about 25 more AM crusties to register, lobby for all to get in and personally make sure they all finish the tourney and then you may have a record! There were also 48 in the GM1 division and ALL of them finished!! :wink2:

[Tanya Spence]

20 FPOs... someone do the math and tell me if that's more than 7%...

Math... ugh...

[james_the_kid]

when are work partys starting

[chris7graham]

I just put in for the lottery:rockon:

[emmarose]

just over 14 % people...

so that's pretty cool... 7% of registered members of the PDGA are women... we got twice that signed up for the Fling...

(please note i did my own math. also note, it very well could be wrong... )

[Reichard]

just over 14 % people...

so that's pretty cool... 7% of registered members of the PDGA are women... we got twice that signed up for the Fling...

(please note i did my own math. also note, it very well could be wrong... )

"20 divided by 138" might have been a little easier. :nahnah: I'm old so maybe I'm not up on this new math stuff you kids are learnin'.

[Scott]

Where did the 138 number come from? There are 160 spots on the pro side; 20 FPO = 12.5%.

Still very cool.

[LegoRules]

Where did the 138 number come from? There are 160 spots on the pro side; 20 FPO = 12.5%.

Still very cool.

138 registered so far.

[emmarose]

"20 divided by 138" might have been a little easier. :nahnah: I'm old so maybe I'm not up on this new math stuff you kids are learnin'.

okay... my lame ass math skills are finally starting to embarrass me... yes, rick... it was much easier to divide 20 by 138... sheesh...

... this is why i asked to have someone else do the math for me...



and, thank you, cindy... i was doing my weird math (as opposed to the new math rick implied i might be using) according to registered players...

[Bullseye]

Registration Update: 04 April 2012 03:20 pm

FM1 5
MA1 208
FW1 19
MM1 58
MG1 28
MS1 3

Total: 321

[Sam]

58.... FFS. How about a shout out for letting past champions in automatically? :D

[Bullseye]

58.... FFS. How about a shout out for letting past champions in automatically? :D

If you know one who didn't bag their way in, I'd consider it.

[dooley]

If you know one who didn't bag their way in, I'd consider it.

:biggrin2:

[runnaman]

How about top 10 from last year in the Advanced field get in?

[columbia gorge discgolf]

How about eveybody play the lottery if thats what you have to do. Just a thought. Pretty sure the TDs have enough on their plates.

[NWDiscer]

How about top 10 from last year in the Advanced field get in?

:D play open.......:slapface: :rolleyes2: :wink2:

[Wes Hansen]

Sam is not really signing up as an AM again is he?!?
Next thing someone will tell me is 163 is still signing up as an AM for the 43rd straight year...

If we're playing "how about"... How about top three finishers step the $@*% up.

I'd like to see a revised spreadsheet from TL.... it's getting old.

Do a Dooley.

[mowens404]

Sam is not really signing up as an AM again is he?!?
Next thing someone will tell me is 163 is still signing up as an AM for the 43rd straight year...

If we're playing "how about"... How about top three finishers step the $@*% up.

I'd like to see a revised spreadsheet from TL.... it's getting old.

Do a Dooley.


He has every right to play AM. check the rating.:whistler:

[Reichard]

If you know one who didn't bag their way in, I'd consider it.

:yay:

[Kenny B]

How about top 10 from last year in the Advanced field get in?

I actually think the opposite would be more fair. Give priority to those who weren't lucky enough to get in last year. Kinda hard to finish in the top 10 if you couldn't even get in the event in the first place.

As the excellent tradition of the BSF continues, why not give all players who sign up for the lottery one submission into the pool of names and then give players who've attempted to get in in the past, but weren't drawn, one additional name submission into the pool for each year they didn't make it in. (In this scenario, players who turned down their invite into the event would not qualify for the extra name submission(s).)

We could also do a similar thing for people who volunteered in past BSFs.

[Tanya Spence]

19FW1?!?!

Awwwwyeeeaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Holla!

Registration Update: 04 April 2012 03:20 pm

FM1 5
MA1 208
FW1 19
MM1 58
MG1 28
MS1 3

Total: 321

[CMC206]

What about adding an extra day? Then everyone could get in and the event will make more cash. Would that work?

[Bullseye]

I actually think the opposite would be more fair. Give priority to those who weren't lucky enough to get in last year. Kinda hard to finish in the top 10 if you couldn't even get in the event in the first place.

As the excellent tradition of the BSF continues, why not give all players who sign up for the lottery one submission into the pool of names and then give players who've attempted to get in in the past, but weren't drawn, one additional name submission into the pool for each year they didn't make it in. (In this scenario, players who turned down their invite into the event would not qualify for the extra name submission(s).)

We could also do a similar thing for people who volunteered in past BSFs.

We've been talking about this possibility of double-weighting those who missed out the previous year for a while now, but since we hadn't announced it ahead of time, we didn't think it would be appropriate to institute it this year.

In any case, this year is set in stone and everyone who threw their name into the hat will have an equal chance... just like last year.

Its a work in progress for sure. Rest assured, we are trying to do this as fairly as possible. If its any consolation, I know a couple of people who would LOVE to play the BSF, but will have no chance of doing that in the foreseeable future... Jeff Mittl and I :)

[XandorF]

treelove... where'd that post go? i was just reading it, and then i went back to look through the conversation, then when i came back your response to owens was gone before i could finish reading it... you tease!

[Scott]

treelove... where'd that post go? i was just reading it, and then i went back to look through the conversation, then when i came back your response to owens was gone before i could finish reading it... you tease!

Moved to this thread (http://www.nwdiscgolfnews.com/forum/showthread.php?p=117518#post117518).

[Sam]

He has every right to play AM. check the rating.:whistler:

Ding! Ding! Ding!

So often we hear the cries of people not playing in the division that their rating dictates. As a 941 rated player, I am almost able to play Intermediate and people are whining about me playing Advanced Masters? Really? Look... if you're sub-935, you should move the hell down if my awesome 941 intimidates you so much. Seriously.

[Kenny B]

We've been talking about this possibility of double-weighting those who missed out the previous year for a while now, but since we hadn't announced it ahead of time, we didn't think it would be appropriate to institute it this year.

In any case, this year is set in stone and everyone who threw their name into the hat will have an equal chance... just like last year.

Its a work in progress for sure. Rest assured, we are trying to do this as fairly as possible. If its any consolation, I know a couple of people who would LOVE to play the BSF, but will have no chance of doing that in the foreseeable future... Jeff Mittl and I :)

Thanks for posting this. And the hard work too! When you guys pass the torch, they should give automatic entries for life!

[Scott]

im playing in the GNO, Aloha Suishi, RCO, FSO... so far. so i would hope that my rating goes up through all of these great tournies, although if my rating raised above 970 i wouldnt be able to play (if i didnt get the MPO slot.) So i hope my rating goes up, even if i cant play the BSF.
There is no upper limit for MA1. Go as high as you want. As long as you don't register as a Pro or accept cash, you're good to play in MA1. You may take some shit for it, but probably not from Sam. :D

[Magilla]

Ding! Ding! Ding!

So often we hear the cries of people not playing in the division that their rating dictates. As a 941 rated player, I am almost able to play Intermediate and people are whining about me playing Advanced Masters? Really? Look... if you're sub-935, you should move the hell down if my awesome 941 intimidates you so much. Seriously.


"OCCUPY MM1" If it makes you feel good....AND you can look yourself in the mirror.....:whistler:

IMO...some people just cant have fun playing IF they cant continue to have a chance at winning........I guess that says ALOT about the other 60% of the players in that division.

:slapface:

Oh yea...Its that time again......

DODGERS SUCK
DODGERS SUCK
DODGERS SUCK
DODGERS SUCK

:kissflowers:

[dooley]

Sam is not really signing up as an AM again is he?!?
Next thing someone will tell me is 163 is still signing up as an AM for the 43rd straight year...

If we're playing "how about"... How about top three finishers step the $@*% up.

I'd like to see a revised spreadsheet from TL.... it's getting old.

Do a Dooley.

thanks wes...and gettin humbled a little by players at or near your age is a great ego check.I truly miss playin with G-man,Jordan,you,and all the great guys in mm1...even The Big Sandy himself:nahnah:..I was in a unique situation over this last year and was able to play tourneys as an mm1,mg1,mpm,and mgm...did not win or place in all...but had so much fun i feel i gained a little more appreciation for all the divisions.My feelin is if you have some success as an am you should challenge yourself to step up and experience Proplay...you dont have to stay there....and George A you were callin me a bagger b4 i was even thru my last round at the BSF 2 yrs ago...you sure you know what one looks like..:whistler:...;)

[TreeLove]

Ding! Ding! Ding!

So often we hear the cries of people not playing in the division that their rating dictates. As a 941 rated player, I am almost able to play Intermediate and people are whining about me playing Advanced Masters? Really? Look... if you're sub-935, you should move the hell down if my awesome 941 intimidates you so much. Seriously.

Advanced Master is not the same as Advanced. The guideline for Advanced is below 970. The guideline for Advanced Master is below 935.

[SMOKIN JOE]

The problem is with the PDGA. I can't blame or shame anyone for playing within the rules. What we need to do is get the rules changed. It's funny that the PDGA even list guidelines for play. Just change the rules.
As for a-tier and above events. Ratings should be used for all divisions for registration. We are trying to get the best pro's involved. Why not get the best of all divisions.

[prospect]

There is no upper limit for MA1. Go as high as you want. As long as you don't register as a Pro or accept cash, you're good to play in MA1. You may take some shit for it, but probably not from Sam. :D

http://www.pdga.com/player_stats/58844/2011

Here is an example of a 970+ rated am registering as a pro, but not accepting cash. It is my understanding that is doesn't matter what your rating is, 1010 or 899, that you can play any division (barring an age/sex protected) that you want, as long as you don't accept cash. You can decline the cash flat out, or accept script instead. Paging Chuck Kennedy...

[PDX_Stu]

I am going with the eternal rule of Dodgers suck.. I should get my Timmy Jersey on for Giants opening day manana. 55 rocks

Right ROLLER !:cheers::cheers:

[Sam]

Advanced Master is not the same as Advanced. The guideline for Advanced is below 970. The guideline for Advanced Master is below 935.

Can you show me where it says that 935 is the cut-off for Advanced Masters? This is totally news to me.

[SMOKIN JOE]

Can you show me where it says that 935 is the cut-off for Advanced Masters? This is totally news to me.

I have a TD packet that has a guideline for play. The graph shows that If you have a rating above 935 you should play pro master. It must be on-line somewhere.

[Magilla]

Can you show me where it says that 935 is the cut-off for Advanced Masters? This is totally news to me.


935 is the cut off for the "Pros playing Am" in MM1. Just like 970 is the cut off for MA1.

[Sam]

Ah. Good thing I am not a Pro playing as an Am. :)

[snap7times]

I have seen Sam purposely "misthrow" discs to add strokes to his round scores to keep his rating where it is... Truth! ;)

[Sam]

No chance at that, sir. I might have said that after a bad throw, however. Helping the handicap as it were. :)

[Flash]

Amateur Registration update 4/7/2012

FA1 18
FM1 5
MA1 203
MM1 54
MG1 27
MS1 3

[Wes Hansen]

wHEN DOES THE LOTTO BEGIN?

[Bullseye]

FINAL - Amateur Registration update 4/8/2012

FA1---21
FM1---5
MA1---222
MM1---60
MG1---32
MS1---3

Total: 343

Good luck Everyone. My apologies, in advance, to everyone whose name does not get chosen.

[Tanya Spence]

10% of Advanced are women sign ups!! Hooray!!

May the odds be ever in your favor!!!!

No hard feelings. If I don't make the cut I'm still going to volunteer all weekend (:

[Bruce]

Oops, I forgot to do this with the beautiful weather this weekend. Caddy time! :)

[XandorF]

Oops, I forgot to do this with the beautiful weather this weekend. Caddy time! :)

dibs

[Serniotti]

When will the lucky ams be getting an email for registration?

[CMC206]

4 8 15 16 23 42

[Amber]

i was wondering when first lottery was going to take place

[Wes Hansen]

Jeff,
I suggest you type your yearly post about how those people that ask that question will have their names removed from the lottery...
it always gives me a laugh.
(Did you get the roses and chocolates and singing telegram I sent? No expectations, I just thought you deserved them!)

[DGShawn]

I have not read anything about this, so I will go ahead and put it out there........flame at will

Will there be a notification in this thread as to when the lottery is over? Just so I can stop hitting refresh on my inbox....

[Wes Hansen]

I have not read anything about this, so I will go ahead and put it out there........flame at will

Will there be a notification in this thread as to when the lottery is over? Just so I can stop hitting refresh on my inbox....

Unofficially- one of the appropriate Jeffs (TDs) will post something at an appropriate time. As soon as the emails begin going out everyone will know. Someone will post that they got one within 3 to 7 minutes of getting it.

.........But it is a lot of fun to watch the online user count rise as everyone sits and does the same thing. You are not alone.

[smobro]

check the results at:
www.relaxuimpatient1stgrader.com

[smobro]

check the results at:
www.relaxuimpatient1stgrader.com

SARCASM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Wes Hansen]

SARCASM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Kent,
At least take the time to link that to somewhere. Hesus.

[smobro]

Kent,
At least take the time to link that to somewhere. Hesus.

He He Ha Ha I wish I could find out how many DG'ers actually clicked on it. So rad-

[juda4936]

Has anyone hear when the drawing is, or if it has been done?:pullhair:

[Reichard]

Sweet, I'm in!

[Bullseye]

Sweet, I'm in!

That is so cold Reichard. All these folks wondering... and you gotta go and rub that in like that...

By the way, I totally lost your registration, sorry. We're cool for next year though, right?





As for the rest of you... I will be posting the lottery results later tonight when I get back from doing some work on the course at Milo.


Lastly... before we spend the evening breaking hearts and shattering hopes and dreams, I want to reiterate how terrible this makes Mittl and I feel. Each and every year it gets harder and harder to get through this process. No matter what we do, someone we care about is going to get burned. We keep trying to institute policies (like the lottery itself) that try to balance things out, but really do I feel like we're fighting a losing battle.

In conclusion... we're sorry... in advance.

Jeff

[J Monette]

You are cold MoFo Ravishing Rick!!

I got all my fingers and toes crossed for good news for me and my friends!

[Matt B.]

Sweet, I'm in!

HIGH FIVE!

[Reichard]

HIGH FIVE!

*SMACK*

Jeff, I forgave you for that hell you put my through at Trojan last year, I'm sure I'll forgive you for this :slapface:

Other Jeff, sorry, I no speakie Washingtonion. . . but I still think you guys are cute with your unwashed hair and your flannel shirts.

[ski2man]

Lastly... before we spend the evening breaking hearts and shattering hopes and dreams, I want to reiterate how terrible this makes Mittl and I feel. Each and every year it gets harder and harder to get through this process. No matter what we do, someone we care about is going to get burned. We keep trying to institute policies (like the lottery itself) that try to balance things out, but really do I feel like we're fighting a losing battle.

In conclusion... we're sorry... in advance.

Jeff

No worries, you know...I understand being apologetic but you should also be proud that you host a tournament that is so highly regarded that you have to do such a method. I think it's pretty amazing, especially since I've never been to one, it makes me really really want to go.

[CarlitosBonitos]

The suspense is killing me... All good things come to those who wait!

[runnaman]

Looks like I'm going to try to get into the Pro Side.

7 spots left, 5 days...

[snap7times]

I'm sorry the Jeff's can't play this tournament... I'm in! Yes! wait... that's the pro side, oops still waiting to see who made it for the ams... GO DDGA :)

[LegoRules]

So weird the list was here now it is gone. :confused:

[EnigmaSquad]

Congrats to all my West Sound friends who made it in! Sorry I can't join you! :waaah:

[mowens404]

I'm in! This will be my first Beaver State Fling! :trophy:

[Tanya Spence]

I'm in! This will be my first Beaver State Fling! :trophy:

Congrats!!

[juda4936]

I just paid for the Fling:yay:
My first singles event, and it should be a GREAT time:rockon:

[spanky11]

Just paid as well, can't wait to play the BSF!!! EPIC weekend upon us.

Jason

[emmarose]

Just paid as well, can't wait to play the BSF!!! EPIC weekend upon us.

Jason

... you certainly have the arm for it, mr. 360. ;)

[spanky11]

... you certainly have the arm for it, mr. 360. ;)

Well i am really looking forward to using it. I got a chance to stop by Milo on the way to bend last week to take every chance possible to play there. That west course is Big, looking forward to it. Looking forward to the BSF my first time ever playing in it or being there. Can't wait

Jason

[Bullseye]

An informational tidbit:

As of today the average rating of the MPO field at the 2012 Beaver State Fling is 1000.46.

[mowens404]

Finally paid for and registered!

[Bullseye]

Finally paid for and registered!

Awesome! And as your reward I give you... your name in LIGHTS! (http://www.pdga.com/tournament_results/78049%2526381351717)

[mowens404]

Awesome! And as your reward I give you... your name in LIGHTS! (http://www.pdga.com/tournament_results/78049%2526381351717)



:yay: I am so excited! been feeling more confident and golfing better day after day. What's the average MA1 rating? i've got a few minutes, i'll figure it out.

[mowens404]

:yay: I am so excited! been feeling more confident and golfing better day after day. What's the average MA1 rating? i've got a few minutes, i'll figure it out.



Roughly 930.1/6

That's half a stroke above my rating! :chinscratch:

[ned.blaze]

Its probly on one of these threds but is there a list somewhere that I need to put my name on to get a spot at the campground?

["Over the Hill" Bob]

Its probly on one of these threds but is there a list somewhere that I need to put my name on to get a spot at the campground?

Ned, If you want to stay in the actual Campground you'd reserve through State Parks. The BSF camping you show up at TC and pay your fee and find a piece of real estate where they tell you.

Bob

[Scott]

Ned, If you want to stay in the actual Campground you'd reserve through State Parks. The BSF camping you show up at TC and pay your fee and find a piece of real estate where they tell you.

Bob

Bob is mostly correct.

The campground can be reserved through http://www.reserveamerica.com/. There are currently a few sites available for that weekend.

There is no extra fee for camping in the BSF camping area this year. You only need to display your day use pass in your vehicle.

[JMittl]

Bob is mostly correct.

The campground can be reserved through http://www.reserveamerica.com/. There are currently a few sites available for that weekend.

There is no extra fee for camping in the BSF camping area this year. You only need to display your day use pass in your vehicle.

This is mostly true!
If you want to stay in the campground please use the link in Scott's previous post.
As far as camping in the designated areas around the course with your day/year parking pass, I will have to get back to you on that. As of Friday of last week head park ranger, Clay, accepted a state park job in eastern Oregon. There has been no replacement as of yet. He was great to work with and will be missed.
Camping details to come...

Thanks,
Jeff

[Jim J]

This is mostly true!
If you want to stay in the campground please use the link in Scott's previous post.
As far as camping in the designated areas around the course with your day/year parking pass, I will have to get back to you on that. As of Friday of last week head park ranger, Clay, accepted a state park job in eastern Oregon. There has been no replacement as of yet. He was great to work with and will be missed.
Camping details to come...

Thanks,
Jeff

Jeff:

I know in year's past the BSF camping was for Friday and Saturday, but if we could camp in the designated areas on Thursday, that'd be sweet and well worth extra $$$$.

Last year I spent Thursday night in the official campground (which was great and well worth it), but tearing down and relocating on Friday morning was a bit of a challenge (although not as much of a challenge as the approach on 1W!).

Thanks,

jj

[JMittl]

Jeff:

I know in year's past the BSF camping was for Friday and Saturday, but if we could camp in the designated areas on Thursday, that'd be sweet and well worth extra $$$$.

Last year I spent Thursday night in the official campground (which was great and well worth it), but tearing down and relocating on Friday morning was a bit of a challenge (although not as much of a challenge as the approach on 1W!).

Thanks,

jj

I'll get back to you on that...things are up in the air w/o a head park ranger in place.

[snap7times]

anyone looking to split a room at red hood inn in estacada for this tournament?

[spanky11]

I know the Jeffs are busy, Does anyone know about camping at Milo? I understand that you just camp on the grass, along the parking lots and pretty much anywhere you can other than the course itself. Is that kind of just show up and find a spot type deal? What goes on, somebody who camped last year at the course can you possibly fill me in? I saw the above post but i was curious if we do camp on the course part how it all works?

thank you

jason

[TreeLove]

I know the Jeffs are busy, Does anyone know about camping at Milo? I understand that you just camp on the grass, along the parking lots and pretty much anywhere you can other than the course itself. Is that kind of just show up and find a spot type deal? What goes on, somebody who camped last year at the course can you possibly fill me in? I saw the above post but i was curious if we do camp on the course part how it all works?

thank you

jason

Unofficial post:

In years past most recently, the camping has been:

RVs in parking lots D an E, along the southernmost curb.
Tents in grass next to in parking lots D an E, along the southernmost curb.
Tents at designated areas just south of parking lot D, near shelter D# ?
E lot is designated as the "quiet" camp.

It is definitely not: "pretty much anywhere you can other than the course itself". That would include hundreds of acres on which camping is not allowed.

The camping is cool, it's in an area normally open only for day use, but the bathrooms and shelters remain open just for us.

There is usually a designated Camping Director, and they will instruct us on the camping requirements.

[JMittl]

Unofficial post:

In years past most recently, the camping has been:

RVs in parking lots D an E, along the southernmost curb.
Tents in grass next to in parking lots D an E, along the southernmost curb.
Tents at designated areas just south of parking lot D, near shelter D# ?
E lot is designated as the "quiet" camp.

It is definitely not: "pretty much anywhere you can other than the course itself". That would include hundreds of acres on which camping is not allowed.

The camping is cool, it's in an area normally open only for day use, but the bathrooms and shelters remain open just for us.

There is usually a designated Camping Director, and they will instruct us on the camping requirements.

Thank you Gawain!
Also, No parking along fairway curbs.

[spanky11]

Thank you so much, I'm looking forward to it. Just making sure I didn't have to "reserve" a spot or somethin ny the course. Me and a few players will be heading down on Thursday just wanted to make sure I would be able to camp by the course.

Thanks

Jason

[JMittl]

This is mostly true!
If you want to stay in the campground please use the link in Scott's previous post.
As far as camping in the designated areas around the course with your day/year parking pass, I will have to get back to you on that. As of Friday of last week head park ranger, Clay, accepted a state park job in eastern Oregon. There has been no replacement as of yet. He was great to work with and will be missed.
Camping details to come...

Thanks,
Jeff

No updates.
Camping historically is Friday and Saturday night only!

[TreeLove]

I am part of the large group whose lives would become much easier if we could camp Thursday night. If there is any way it can be pulled off, we would be forever grateful. If there is no chance, well, let us know, and we'll plan around it, but if there is any chance, please let me know what I can do to help facilitate that possibility!

PS: Second in importance, but also wonderful, would be if we could camp on Sunday as well...

[Bullseye]

Guys,

I thought Mittl was pretty clear here, but here it is again.

Beaver State Fling camping is for Friday and Saturday nights ONLY.

You are more than welcome to camp in the Milo McIver campground on other nights if you would like to, but not in the tournament area.

That is all we can guarantee right now.

With the most helpful park manager we have ever had having recently left Milo, and with no replacement hired as of yet, our ability to negotiate anything is dramatically reduced. If that changes, trust that we will let you know.


Jeff Hagerty

[TreeLove]

Guys,

I thought Mittl was pretty clear here, but here it is again.

Beaver State Fling camping is for Friday and Saturday nights ONLY.

You are more than welcome to camp in the Milo McIver campground on other nights if you would like to, but not in the tournament area.

That is all we can guarantee right now.

With the most helpful park manager we have ever had having recently left Milo, and with no replacement hired as of yet, our ability to negotiate anything is dramatically reduced. If that changes, trust that we will let you know.


Jeff Hagerty

Thanks. We're clear. Hopeful, and clear. :biggrin2:

[Bruce]

So just so we are clear, I can come and camp in the middle of tourney central, right? Thanks!

[Jim J]

In doing a little research on the BSF site I see that hole 8W (485 foot island par three) has the following note:

"Drop Zone for missed island landing, must come to rest on island to be inbounds"

That's a new twist and should make for some pretty dramatic upshots on a hole that never seemed to lack drama.

[jcrab66]

only a week away, really looking forward this one!

[jcrab66]

In doing a little research on the BSF site I see that hole 8W (485 foot island par three) has the following note:

"Drop Zone for missed island landing, must come to rest on island to be inbounds"

That's a new twist and should make for some pretty dramatic upshots on a hole that never seemed to lack drama.

whats the approximate distance A. to carry to the island off the tee or B. to layup in front of the road?

[NWDiscer]

whats the approximate distance A. to carry to the island off the tee or B. to layup in front of the road?



450'+ to carry and all the way to 425' for layups, also i'm not sure if they are putting up the hay bales to keep discs from being able to slide up on to the green?

i am not sure any1 has driven that green Fling staff would have to answer that. :D


and we are still 2+ weeks away June 15-17th


BRING ON the 36!!!!!!

[Bullseye]

whats the approximate distance A. to carry to the island off the tee or B. to layup in front of the road?

We have decided not to use the drop zones this year. These holes will be played exactly like they have in the past.

[chris7graham]

only a week away, really looking forward this one!

That's 2 weeks:shocked:

[emmarose]

only a week away, really looking forward this one!

my calculations (and we have established i am no math major) put it at two weeks.

[Sally W]

Officially getting really freaking excited. Can't wait for the tournament layout to go in! :drool:

[Bullseye]

whats the approximate distance A. to carry to the island off the tee or B. to layup in front of the road?

This guy was clearly just trying to freak me the hell out.

I don't get mad... I get even. Yup, 7:00am tee time for this guy. :biggrin2:

[jcrab66]

That's 2 weeks:shocked:

ahh yes, i knew that, only a week until i get to oregon, thats how excited about it i am! :D

[jcrab66]

450'+ to carry and all the way to 425' for layups, also i'm not sure if they are putting up the hay bales to keep discs from being able to slide up on to the green?

i am not sure any1 has driven that green

thanks for the info, i couldnt really tell the scale from the course map pic, at 485 to the pin i was thinking maybe 375-400 to the island, no doubt it will be a layup for me at 450!

[jcrab66]

We have decided not to use the drop zones this year. These holes will be played exactly like they have in the past.

i wasnt sure about any of it since i have never had the good fortune of playing the course in the tourney layout...

[chris7graham]

Wow I seen some cool new hole placements out there that are going to be out there for fling.
:rockon:

[Portland Rebel]

thanks for the info, i couldnt really tell the scale from the course map pic, at 485 to the pin i was thinking maybe 375-400 to the island, no doubt it will be a layup for me at 450!

And due to the route that needs to be taken, it is a long and challenging 485 to the pin fraught with dangers most mortals don't attempt especially when keeping score.

[Darr]

ATTN Campers:

The Beaver State Fling crew has reserved site A for anyone interested in camping on Thursday night. The fee will be $10 per person at this site. The site is located just off the road to the right before you make the left headed to TC. Anyone interested in camping can send me a PM and I will put you on the reservation list. There are 25 parking spots available so space is limited.

[DiscGolfBend]

Hey to anyone one going out to practice. My good buddy lost his go to driver on the genius hole..... its a white CE Eagle pretty beat up but in his mind its irreplaceble.. shoot him a text or pm me thanks and good luck to all who got in!:rockon:

[NWDiscer]

Hey to anyone one going out to practice. My good buddy lost his go to driver on the genius hole..... its a white CE Eagle pretty beat up but in his mind its irreplaceble.. shoot him a text or pm me thanks and good luck to all who got in!:rockon:



??where was it at?? over the fence,in a tree,coming down the hill...

[TreeLove]

ATTN Campers:

The Beaver State Fling crew has reserved site A for anyone interested in camping on Thursday night. The fee will be $10 per person at this site. The site is located just off the road to the right before you make the left headed to TC. Anyone interested in camping can send me a PM and I will put you on the reservation list. There are 25 parking spots available so space is limited.

Awesome news, way to go! PM sent.

[branjwraith]

Any info on when ams will be recieving schedule/tee times?(gettin ansy)

[JMittl]

Unofficial post:

In years past most recently, the camping has been:

RVs in parking lots D an E, along the southernmost curb.
Tents in grass next to in parking lots D an E, along the southernmost curb.
Tents at designated areas just south of parking lot D, near shelter D# ?
E lot is designated as the "quiet" camp.

It is definitely not: "pretty much anywhere you can other than the course itself". That would include hundreds of acres on which camping is not allowed.

The camping is cool, it's in an area normally open only for day use, but the bathrooms and shelters remain open just for us.

There is usually a designated Camping Director, and they will instruct us on the camping requirements.

Camping for the Beaver State Fling

Thursday night - Group camp A/Kingfisher ONLY, Please contact Patrick Darr (on this forum) for reservations. $10 gets you Thursday night or a full weekend (MUST be out by 1pm Sunday). No Exceptions!

Friday - Day Use areas along parking lots D and E.
Saturday - Day Use areas along parking lots D and E.

In order to camp in these "Day Use" areas your vehicle will need to display...
A. Yearly State Park Pass
B. Day Use pass ($5 at the gate) for each day you plan to camp!
All others are subject to parking ticket...not my rules.

Other notes:
Only above ground fire pits are acceptable! Remember your bundle of wood.
Pack it in, Pack it out!...Including your ashes.

Final note:
Being able to camp in these typically "off limits" to camping areas is a privilege.
Please be respectful and courteous to Park Staff, BSF Volunteers, Tournament Play, and your camping neighbors!
Thank you

[Matt B.]

Camping for the Beaver State Fling

Thursday night - Group camp A/Kingfisher ONLY, Please contact Patrick Darr (on this forum) for reservations. $10 gets you Thursday night or a full weekend (MUST be out by 1pm Sunday). No Exceptions!

Friday - Day Use areas along parking lots D and E.
Saturday - Day Use areas along parking lots D and E.

In order to camp in these "Day Use" areas your vehicle will need to display...
A. Yearly State Park Pass
B. Day Use pass ($5 at the gate) for each day you plan to camp!
All others are subject to parking ticket...not my rules.

Other notes:
Only above ground fire pits are acceptable! Remember your bundle of wood.
Pack it in, Pack it out!...Including your ashes.

Final note:
Being able to camp in these typically "off limits" to camping areas is a privilege.
Please be respectful and courteous to Park Staff, BSF Volunteers, Tournament Play, and your camping neighbors!
Thank you

Hey Campers (and everyone else) -

I got tired of needing a "sit-down" bathroom break at the BSF and finding all the toilet paper gone in the bathrooms around TC and the day use area so I decided to do something about it! Is there anything worse than realizing you better go drown a burrito before your tee time if you want to play well and finding no paper in the whole bathroom?!? :shocked: Well of course there is, but that's not my point. This happened to me the last two years at the BSF. I think the Park staff just can't keep up with the heavy use in these bathrooms during the weekend.

So this year I am bringing toilet paper. A LOT of toilet paper. I'll be stocking the bathrooms on Wednesday, and checking and re-stocking them again Fri. - Sun. Please don't take the extra rolls for personal use or firestarters. So think of me when you are...actually, scratch that, I mean....um...uh...enjoy the 2012 BSF!

[emmarose]

Hey Campers (and everyone else) -

I got tired of needing a "sit-down" bathroom break at the BSF and finding all the toilet paper gone in the bathrooms around TC and the day use area so I decided to do something about it! Is there anything worse than realizing you better go drown a burrito before your tee time if you want to play well and finding no paper in the whole bathroom?!? :shocked: Well of course there is, but that's not my point. This happened to me the last two years at the BSF. I think the Park staff just can't keep up with the heavy use in these bathrooms during the weekend.

So this year I am bringing toilet paper. A LOT of toilet paper. I'll be stocking the bathrooms on Wednesday, and checking and re-stocking them again Fri. - Sun. Please don't take the extra rolls for personal use or firestarters. So think of me when you are...actually, scratch that, I mean....um...uh...enjoy the 2012 BSF!

actually, matt, i've been stealing the tp out of the boy's rooms and putting it in the little girl's... i mean, we have to sit down every damn time...


kidding.


but, great, now every time i poop i'm going to think about you.

[Matt B.]

actually, matt, i've been stealing the tp out of the boy's rooms and putting it in the little girl's... i mean, we have to sit down every damn time...


kidding.


but, great, now every time i poop i'm going to think about you.

How dare you. That is so inappropriate.


:)

[all2common]

All hail the TP King! Thanks, Benotsch. It will be nice to not have to strategize so much regarding those situations.

[Scott]

Hey Campers (and everyone else) -

I got tired of needing a "sit-down" bathroom break at the BSF and finding all the toilet paper gone in the bathrooms around TC and the day use area so I decided to do something about it! Is there anything worse than realizing you better go drown a burrito before your tee time if you want to play well and finding no paper in the whole bathroom?!? :shocked: Well of course there is, but that's not my point. This happened to me the last two years at the BSF. I think the Park staff just can't keep up with the heavy use in these bathrooms during the weekend.

So this year I am bringing toilet paper. A LOT of toilet paper. I'll be stocking the bathrooms on Wednesday, and checking and re-stocking them again Fri. - Sun. Please don't take the extra rolls for personal use oNr firestarters. So think of me when you are...actually, scratch that, I mean....um...uh...enjoy the 2012 BSF!
well there goes my plan to make a killing selling black market tp that weekend. Thanks a lot, Matt.

[Lund]

So this year I am bringing toilet paper. A LOT of toilet paper. I'll be stocking the bathrooms on Wednesday, and checking and re-stocking them again Fri. - Sun. Please don't take the extra rolls for personal use or firestarters. So think of me when you are...actually, scratch that, I mean....um...uh...enjoy the 2012 BSF!

Talk about going above and beyond the call of dooty!

[james_the_kid]

wondering when the course will be up?

[NWDiscer]

wondering when the course will be up?


:blush: you do know where the baskets are supposed to be right :confused: ;)

[JMittl]

Baskets will be in Tuesday evening. 48 hours before the event.

[juda4936]

:pullhair:
They should put them up today!

I need the practice :dancing:

[Bullseye]

:pullhair:
They should put them up today!

I need the practice :dancing:

I know this isn't the optimal solution, but if practice is what you need, then throw the hole without a basket.

Putting practice can be done at any basket.

[Sean Phillips]

I know this isn't the optimal solution, but if practice is what you need, then throw the hole without a basket.

Putting practice can be done at any basket.

like

[branjwraith]

Any info on when ams will be recieving schedule/tee times?(gettin ansy)

[Scott]

I know this isn't the optimal solution, but if practice is what you need, then throw the hole without a basket.

Putting practice can be done at any basket.

Agree 100%.

For me the most important part of practicing a hole is figuring out what to do off the tee and how to approach the area around the basket.

[all2common]

Any info on when ams will be recieving schedule/tee times?(gettin ansy)

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that tee times will be posted here (http://www.pdga.com/tournament_results/78049), here (http://www.beaverstatefling.com/node/50), and probably on this forum somewhere in due time. Believe me, that is something that they will not forget to let you know about.

Happy trolling!

[chris7graham]

LIKEBaskets will be in Tuesday evening. 48 hours before the event.

[Bullseye]

Any info on when ams will be recieving schedule/tee times?(gettin ansy)

Posting the tee times too far ahead of time is a no-win situation for us. If someone drops and we have to change something, and someone misses their tee time because they didn't look again... then we would be blamed for posting incorrect information.

If you plan on a 5:00am tee time you will only be pleasantly surprised.

Jeff

["Over the Hill" Bob]

I haven't been involved this year at all with the Beaver State Fling. I decided that I needed to take the time to concentrate on life issues.

I do want to thank everyone involved that has worked so hard to make this happen yet again this year. I have no doubt that anyone will be disappointed with the results. You may be disappointed with your personal results but with the organizational aspect, the Team that is involved, I can guarantee you, has done everything humanly possible to bring you the best of the best.

I look forward to seeing everyone out there on Saturday and Sunday.

:yay::yay::yay:

Bob

[Bruce]

And just to put it out there, since it seems to be brought up every year.... Jeff and Jeff are really doing you a favor with 48 hours, since the extra temporary holes are just that, and excluded from the 48 hour time frame of the Tour standards. So for that thanks guys.

[snap7times]

Since I was planning on using monday and tuesday to practice due to work etc. Am I allowed to ask what basket placements will be different from last year's layout? So I know which baskets will be moving etc? Just asking...

[Bullseye]

Since I was planning on using monday and tuesday to practice due to work etc. Am I allowed to ask what basket placements will be different from last year's layout? So I know which baskets will be moving etc? Just asking...

10W - Deep Left in the "Closet"

11W - Deep Left by the creek (which is probably dry right now).

[Flash]

10W - Deep Left in the "Closet"

11W - Deep Left by the creek (which is probably dry right now). Probably not dry after that rain we got today! It was flooding here in Beaverton, water over the curbs it came down so fast.

Both of these placements are new for the Fling but 11W has been used for other events before. This should make the west play a little more fair or harder depending on how you look at things.

Is everyone coming to meet the pro's at Next Adventure on Wednesday the 13th of June?

[mowens404]

i'll be there, i'll never forget meeting Jay and Des Reading and Nikko, Talked with Jay and Des for a while, and Jay ended up giving me the mini out of his back pocket.

["Over the Hill" Bob]

i'll be there, i'll never forget meeting Jay and Des Reading and Nikko, Talked with Jay and Des for a while, and Jay ended up giving me the mini out of his back pocket.

I've got one of those minis also. :wink2:

Bob

[TreeLove]

Is there a new pin position on 10 W? I know of two: straightaway, and shorter left. What is "The Closet?" Is it near the recycling cans on Tee 11 (but shorter), back where I have never taken a pee in my entire life?

[emmarose]

Is there a new pin position on 10 W? I know of two: straightaway, and shorter left. What is "The Closet?" Is it near the recycling cans on Tee 11 (but shorter), back where I have never taken a pee in my entire life?

"the closet" also known as "the little girl's room"


hahahaha!!!


:p


you'll see it when you play the hole, it's in between the short and long and on the left and kind of looks like a cave...

[NWDiscer]

you'll see it when you play the hole, it's in between the short and long and on the left and kind of looks like a cave...


yep that is correct back in amongst the Cedars

[snap7times]

Cool 10W, played that at the three header a couple months ago, didn't even know about it until got up there expecting to be parked. 11W I have only seen it up on the hill. Will look for that pin placement, where is it compared to the placement on the hill? Thank you for letting us know.

[Bruce]

Think you have the holes wrong in your head Snap, 11w was what you played, 10w was the big hyzer or straight up the gut shot in the past. The pin is now tucked roughly 60 feet left in the woods, with a window cut out so you can throw a straight shot up there...well straighter shot.

[Scott]

Think you have the holes wrong in your head Snap, 11w was what you played, 10w was the big hyzer or straight up the gut shot in the past. The pin is now tucked roughly 60 feet left in the woods, with a window cut out so you can throw a straight shot up there...well straighter shot.

I assume you have to be roughly pin high to hit the window?

Does anyone know if 10 and 11 are in their tournament positions yet?

[Bruce]

You come in short and left of the standard pin placement, if you go to the standard pin your are kind of....hosed on getting to the basket. Though the 'closet' is completely visible from the tee pad.

[JMittl]

I assume you have to be roughly pin high to hit the window?

Does anyone know if 10 and 11 are in their tournament positions yet?

10w is in the short position 60ft short of the tournament placement.
11w is in the normal position 40ft short of the tournament placement.

[Scott]

10w is in the short position 60ft short of the tournament placement.
11w is in the normal position 40ft short of the tournament placement.

Maybe we can move them in the morning? I'll help. :drool:

[snap7times]

Think you have the holes wrong in your head Snap, 11w was what you played, 10w was the big hyzer or straight up the gut shot in the past. The pin is now tucked roughly 60 feet left in the woods, with a window cut out so you can throw a straight shot up there...well straighter shot.

yes... i skipped a hole in my head.. thanks... 10W sounds interesting, a bit more fun than the previous spot I happily assume.

[peterjov]

This may be a dumb question, but i couldn't tell from earlier, but for camping (friday and saturday night) we need both the state park pass and the day pass?

and we don't need reservations for fri and sat???

Thanks!

[Scott]

This may be a dumb question, but i couldn't tell from earlier, but for camping (friday and saturday night) we need both the state park pass and the day pass?

and we don't need reservations for fri and sat???

Thanks!

All you need to camp near the course on Friday and Saturday night is your day use pass for your car (for each day, or an annual pass). Reservations are not needed.

[kel]

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[emmarose]

^^^

yay!!!

[Sally W]

very cool! Now I have something to give to my entourage for the weekend. ie- mom and dad. :)

["Over the Hill" Bob]

very cool! Now I have something to give to my entourage for the weekend. ie- mom and dad. :)

You should also get them a commemortive disc so they can get autographs. And a hat! And a tee shirt! :)

Bob

[Bullseye]

You should also get them a commemortive disc so they can get autographs. And a hat! And a tee shirt! :)

Bob

That is an excellent idea "Over The Counter Bob"!

[runnaman]

How much to play the random doubles?

[Bullseye]

How much to play the random doubles?

I'm going to keep it reasonable.

$5 per player.

West Side!

[runnaman]

Sweet, I'll be there.

[jcrab66]

quick question, how bad is the poison oak / ivy out there right now and is it marked? I seem to remember it being marked in the past but i may be thinking of someplace else. I realize there is none growing in the fairways where your discs are supposed to land but occasionally a disc may get away from me and head for the schule. Thanks in advance...

[Bullseye]

quick question, how bad is the poison oak / ivy out there right now and is it marked? I seem to remember it being marked in the past but i may be thinking of someplace else. I realize there is none growing in the fairways where your discs are supposed to land but occasionally a disc may get away from me and head for the schule. Thanks in advance...

Not much poison oak at all to be honest, but Ryan Gwillim will be heading out there to paint any that he can find. He's done it over the last few years so he knows right where to look.

[jcrab66]

thanks for the info, i normally wouldnt be too concerned with it but got a really bad case of it a few months back which has now caused me to be extremely sensative to it and my poison oak /ivy recognition skills are much like my disc golf skills...seriously lacking...

[Bullseye]

thanks for the info, i normally wouldnt be too concerned with it but got a really bad case of it a few months back which has now caused me to be extremely sensative to it and my poison oak /ivy recognition skills are much like my disc golf skills...seriously lacking...


http://calphotos.berkeley.edu/imgs/512x768/0000_0000/0602/0236.jpeg

Note the red on the stems.

[whalekillah]

http://calphotos.berkeley.edu/imgs/512x768/0000_0000/0602/0236.jpeg

Note the red on the stems.


Thanks Jeff, made me itch just looking at it!

[leefou]

Leaves of three....LEAVES OF IT BE!

[mowens404]

http://calphotos.berkeley.edu/imgs/512x768/0000_0000/0602/0236.jpeg

Note the red on the stems.



It looks so UN-harmful :slapface:. I'm more worried about the tall grass. I played with shorts the other day and my shins are scraped up bad. but the course looks absolutely amazing! :rockon:

[emmarose]

It looks so UN-harmful :slapface:. I'm more worried about the tall grass. I played with shorts the other day and my shins are scraped up bad. but the course looks absolutely amazing! :rockon:

that's why you wear knee socks, matty! duh! (and you thought it was just 'cause i'm soooo fashionable... )


... poison oak also has an "oily" look to it... and towards the end of the season those leaves get a reddish tinge... that's when it's really nasty...

carry baby wipies in your bag and if you throw into a patch, pick the disc up with the wipies, wipie it off before you put it back in your bag and then wipie the heck out of your fingers and hands... and then throw the wipies away in a zippie so they don't contaminate anything else in your bag. altho, i guess if you don't know what the darn stuff looks like anyway, you're just screwed...

[murray the brit]

I did mark some off it out there

[spanky11]

Does anyone know when the latest tee time would be for AMs, or anybody for that matter on Saturday? Have some family traveling down to estacada to watch depending on latest time?
Thank you

[Bullseye]

Does anyone know when the latest tee time would be for AMs, or anybody for that matter on Saturday? Have some family traveling down to estacada to watch depending on latest time?
Thank you
The 2nd round for Ams on Saturday will tee off around 4:00pm-ish.

[Darr]

ATTN: Thursday Campers

We have 10 people who have reserved spots for the Thursday night camping in the Kingfisher site. This leaves approximately 15 spots available as of now. Anyone who has reserved a spot or plans on camping there will need to check in and pay Scott Hill at tournament central on Thursday. I will not be out until early Friday morning due to work conflicts. Anyone who would like to reserve a spot please PM myself or Scott, (Scott) on this forum to get in on this. :cheers:

[PhilStomp]

I scanned thru the posts but we are up to 13 pages now and I still don't know what I need to know.
Feel free to call me out for being dumb. I can take it.
Sorry, but I'm working six and seven 10's with an hour commute each way so I miss stuff.
I don't know when I must show up or Tee times.
I have to ask for time off. They know it's coming but....
Sorry, but better to ask and feel stupid than miss out.
A little help?

PhilStomp