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Bullseye
February 20th, 2012, 08:48 AM
A while back we went into this on this board and some people argued that this was ok. Well folks, it definitely not OK.... EVER.

Once again, some idiot has tagged our freshly powdercoated baskets at Milo. First it was Robert Holowati, and now it is Mike Richards. I have never met either of these guys, but if you know either of them, please let them know that this is totally unacceptable.

Please, if you ever see people signing a basket, call the rangers so we can have these people banned from our courses. Enough is enough.

Mikk
February 20th, 2012, 09:10 AM
so who are you to tell golfers they cant play at a course, because you didnt like their signature?? I understand its not cool, but you will never stop this EVER, sorry...

blu666z
February 20th, 2012, 09:13 AM
so who are you to tell golfers they cant play at a course, because you didnt like their signature?? I understand its not cool, but you will never stop this EVER, sorry...

:headbang:

LegoRules
February 20th, 2012, 09:31 AM
so who are you to tell golfers they cant play at a course, because you didnt like their signature?? I understand its not cool, but you will never stop this EVER, sorry...

:pullhair:

Bullseye
February 20th, 2012, 09:36 AM
so who are you to tell golfers they cant play at a course, because you didnt like their signature?? I understand its not cool, but you will never stop this EVER, sorry...

Ummm... Well Mikk, lets see... I am one of the guys who actually helped raise thousands of dollars to completely re-furbish and re-powdercoat all 36 of the baskets at Milo. I am one of the guys who completely disassembled the old baskets so we could replace the rusty old chains and crappy shallow baskets etc... I am also one of the guys who works with the parks department on a regular basis putting in 100s of hours every year improving the course itself. I am also one of the guys who runs the Beaver State Fling every year, so I take a lot of pride in that course and ,yes I do feel like something of a steward of the course.

Now, while you might think we will never stop this EVER, and you might actually be correct, I would argue that does not mean we should give up on trying to educate ignorant people.

Thanks for the absurd response though... It was extremely helpful. :rolleyes2:

Flatroc
February 20th, 2012, 09:40 AM
so who are you to tell golfers they cant play at a course, because you didnt like their signature?? I understand its not cool, but you will never stop this EVER, sorry...
Mikk,
There are a lot of "who are you" peeps that would do this.
If someone was to tag a basket at Whistlers while knowing MOST folks don't like it, this would get you more than just banned.
The Whistlers Bend Misfits are not as nice as they appear to be. :evilgrin:
Perhaps we make signs letting folks know it's not too cool to tag and let them know the consequences.
You are right in saying it will never stop. BUT, each time this comes up and us "who are you" folks plead our case, it just might make more peeps realize it's not cool.
What if we took pictures of the crime scene and turned them into the :cop:'s?
Yose

Matt B.
February 20th, 2012, 10:16 AM
so who are you to tell golfers they cant play at a course, because you didnt like their signature?? I understand its not cool, but you will never stop this EVER, sorry...

It's not who HE is, it's who the State Park Rangers are. They're the ones who can ban people from the park after having them ticketed and fined for destroying park property. Which part of "Signing baskets is vandalism" did you not undertstand?

So who are you to tell society we can't enforce laws and protect public property because people like to be stupid and destructive? As to the reasoning that it will never stop, so why bother trying..... "I understand that smashing your car windows and stealing your disc golf bag isn't cool, but you will never stop this EVER, sorry"... Now substitute this crime with any other less or more heinous act and see how your logic is working.

I'm assuming you don't vandalize baskets after you throw one of your many aces, Cubby...I mean, Mikk. If you do, now you clearly know how most dic golfers and all the people who spend countless hours working to provide courses for you to play on feel about it. If you don't - what's your f***ing point?

the flogging putter
February 20th, 2012, 10:17 AM
Ummm... Well Mikk, lets see... I am one of the guys who actually helped raise thousands of dollars to completely re-furbish and re-powdercoat all 36 of the baskets at Milo. I am one of the guys who completely disassembled the old baskets so we could replace the rusty old chains and crappy shallow baskets etc... I am also one of the guys who works with the parks department on a regular basis putting in 100s of hours every year improving the course itself. I am also one of the guys who runs the Beaver State Fling every year, so I take a lot of pride in that course and ,yes I do feel like something of a steward of the course.

Now, while you might think we will never stop this EVER, and you might actually be correct, I would argue that does not mean we should give up on trying to educate ignorant people.

Thanks for the absurd response though... It was extremely helpful. :rolleyes2:

YEP

General Scales
February 20th, 2012, 11:20 AM
I would have no problem staying at Milo all year long and deterring people with paintballs to their throwing hand to stop this evil practice. Perhaps this is my ticket to finally move to Oregon...

Bullseye
February 20th, 2012, 11:40 AM
I would have no problem staying at Milo all year long and deterring people with paintballs to their throwing hand to stop this evil practice. Perhaps this is my ticket to finally move to Oregon...

I'll pay for the paint balls ;)

General Scales
February 20th, 2012, 12:35 PM
I'll pay for the paint balls ;)

No need, I have thousands of them ready to use :wink2:. Paying for the CO2 would help though :biggrin2:

HarrisonH
February 20th, 2012, 12:39 PM
This topic definitely will be relevant to Lunchtime at this point. Not looking forward to people marking all over baskets for their <200' aces...

Bullseye
February 20th, 2012, 12:53 PM
Excellent point Harrison, I will inquire about posting a note warning people not to do this... Perhaps, something about Sniper Scales in the bell tower...

General Scales
February 20th, 2012, 01:58 PM
Excellent point Harrison, I will inquire about posting a note warning people not to do this... Perhaps, something about Sniper Scales in the bell tower...

:jumpspin::shooting::jumpspin:

Mikk
February 20th, 2012, 02:58 PM
I know how much work it takes to keep baskets clean, I burn through like 10 cans+ a year removing "basket tags" at my local course. within a few days they would be tagged up again, there is even rival clubs tags on our t-pad markers. I dont think going around and threatining fellow golfers with banishment is the right idea.

Bruce
February 20th, 2012, 03:11 PM
I would have no problem staying at Milo all year long and deterring people with paintballs to their throwing hand to stop this evil practice. Perhaps this is my ticket to finally move to Oregon...

Sadly this is illegal too! You can't even have a sling-shot/wrist rocket in a state park...legally speaking.

Bruce
February 20th, 2012, 03:13 PM
I know how much work it takes to keep baskets clean, I burn through like 10 cans+ a year removing "basket tags" at my local course. within a few days they would be tagged up again, there is even rival clubs tags on our t-pad markers. I dont think going around and threatining fellow golfers with banishment is the right idea.

This has nothing to do with a threat, IT'S ILLEGAL!!! Get that into your head.

emmarose
February 20th, 2012, 03:51 PM
I dont think going around and threatining fellow golfers with banishment is the right idea.

... and i would argue that perhaps it is exactly the right idea. when we as a community are banding together and donating our hard earned cashmoney, which for the most of us i would guess we are not exactly rolling in, to help purchase baskets and such for our courses, not to mention just the hours of volunteer time as well that some of these folks put in doing course work, i think it is time to get serious about this. we care deeply about our courses and more and more are moving towards the idea of real stewardship of these parks we use... instead of just posting a sign at the course or passing on the message, "hey, tagging isn't actually a tradition... most people sorta frown upon it..." but a sign saying, "tagging is vandalism and will be treated as such. perpetrators will lose their privilege to frequent this golf course," then perhaps we will make some serious headway in stopping this utter silliness. it's a ridiculous and entirely unnecessary practice.

someone else said it, too... right, we may not ever stop this entirely... but there's a lot of stuff out there that isn't going to ever stop... doesn't mean we shouldn't do everything we can...

Big dawg 99
February 20th, 2012, 04:27 PM
Sadly this is illegal too! You can't even have a sling-shot/wrist rocket in a state park...legally speaking.

How about a wicked champion whippet sidearm to the FOURhead so sorry about the late call dont mind me while i sign OBJECT ace "duck or bleed" and then mark my territory if you know what i mean.Like most DAWGS do.:rockon:

Mikk
February 20th, 2012, 09:32 PM
I got to play with some golfers that were from the mid-west, michigan I think, that were visiting here. When I got an ace I handed the first guy my disc and a sharpie and asked for a witness. These guys were so confused, saying "we don't sign the disc, we sign the basket." I told them its considered vandalism around here, again they were confused saying that they think that signing somebody elses ace plastic is considered rude. I asked how long most of them had played disc golf, they said that the youngest player has been huckin for about 6 years, so obviously they wern't rookies. So if you give a threat about banishment for signing the basket (vandalism) then that SHOULD BE POSTED ON A SIGN ON HOLE 1 IN BIG WORDS, or atleast very visable when entering the park and or course.

jeffmonty
February 20th, 2012, 10:56 PM
Revel in your ace, sign your friggen Disc, and move on.

tallpat
February 21st, 2012, 01:17 AM
I played at a course in TX that had a bulletin board near hole 1 that was designated as an ace roster. It actually seemed to work pretty well, people were still able to boast their aces for everyone else to bear witness, and (for the most part) kept the baskets from being vandalized... There were still a few douches that decided to tag the baskets, but when they got called out on their douchebaggery and directed towards the appropriate place to testify, it usually made them second guess their actions.

blu666z
February 21st, 2012, 08:10 AM
I got to play with some golfers that were from the mid-west, michigan I think, that were visiting here. When I got an ace I handed the first guy my disc and a sharpie and asked for a witness. These guys were so confused, saying "we don't sign the disc, we sign the basket." I told them its considered vandalism around here, again they were confused saying that they think that signing somebody elses ace plastic is considered rude. I asked how long most of them had played disc golf, they said that the youngest player has been huckin for about 6 years, so obviously they wern't rookies. So if you give a threat about banishment for signing the basket (vandalism) then that SHOULD BE POSTED ON A SIGN ON HOLE 1 IN BIG WORDS, or atleast very visable when entering the park and or course.

Do we need to make a list of all the things that it's illegal to vandalize or are baskets the only one you're struggling with? And how is it less "rude" to vandalize a basket that ISN'T yours, than signing a disc from a guy who asked you to sign HIS disc?!?!?

:shooting:

emmarose
February 21st, 2012, 01:15 PM
Do we need to make a list of all the things that it's illegal to vandalize or are baskets the only one you're struggling with? And how is it less "rude" to vandalize a basket that ISN'T yours, than signing a disc from a guy who asked you to sign HIS disc?!?!?

:shooting:

... and... are aces really that big of a deal, anyway?!?

sorry. i just had to say it.

Adam Schneider
February 21st, 2012, 01:21 PM
... and... are aces really that big of a deal, anyway?!?

sorry. i just had to say it.
That's kind of a good point. I mean, they're fun and all, but I don't even sign my discs. Disc golf aces are nowhere near as rare as ball-golf aces.

blu666z
February 21st, 2012, 01:29 PM
... and... are aces really that big of a deal, anyway?!?

sorry. i just had to say it.

They are so boring, I've only bothered to get one so far.

Joshua Olmsted
February 21st, 2012, 01:38 PM
Ummm, 8 years, still waiting.

LakeStevensBA
February 21st, 2012, 01:56 PM
I was playing in a big group of seven yesterday and didn't get an ace but I made a really sweet 50 foot putt. I was really proud of it so I pulled out the sharpie and wrote my name, date, pdga number, type of putter used including the color and weight, on the basket.

It took so long to write all this information on the baket that the group of 2 people behind us asked very politely if they could play through. Of course I told them to go F-off and just wait till I'm done. I don't think I offended the 14 year old girl and her dad.

I then threw my empty beer cans on the ground, cussed at a casual park user, watched my unleashed pit bull crap on the next tee pad, and finished my fun round.

Looking forward to my next round! :chug:

blu666z
February 21st, 2012, 02:04 PM
Sounds like a full day.

mowens404
February 21st, 2012, 03:07 PM
I was playing in a big group of seven yesterday and didn't get an ace but I made a really sweet 50 foot putt. I was really proud of it so I pulled out the sharpie and wrote my name, date, pdga number, type of putter used including the color and weight, on the basket.

It took so long to write all this information on the baket that the group of 2 people behind us asked very politely if they could play through. Of course I told them to go F-off and just wait till I'm done. I don't think I offended the 14 year old girl and her dad.

I then threw my empty beer cans on the ground, cussed at a casual park user, watched my unleashed pit bull crap on the next tee pad, and finished my fun round.

Looking forward to my next round! :chug:


bad-ass!:rockon:

TYVEK
February 21st, 2012, 03:57 PM
I was playing in a big group of seven yesterday and didn't get an ace but I made a really sweet 50 foot putt. I was really proud of it so I pulled out the sharpie and wrote my name, date, pdga number, type of putter used including the color and weight, on the basket.

It took so long to write all this information on the baket that the group of 2 people behind us asked very politely if they could play through. Of course I told them to go F-off and just wait till I'm done. I don't think I offended the 14 year old girl and her dad.

I then threw my empty beer cans on the ground, cussed at a casual park user, watched my unleashed pit bull crap on the next tee pad, and finished my fun round.

Looking forward to my next round! :chug:

if i hadnt recently met you and played a great round with you, i would not exactly know how to take your post! but i know now that you do love your laughter and good sarcasm.

Kevin Madrid
February 21st, 2012, 05:45 PM
This topic definitely will be relevant to Lunchtime at this point. Not looking forward to people marking all over baskets for their <200' aces...

Ding!

"X" Hit an ace at Lunchtime and guess what...signed sealed and delivered the FIRST TAGGING. GOOD JOB NICK PUTZ !!!

:headbang:

Bullseye
February 21st, 2012, 06:05 PM
Anyone know the legal limitations of justifiable homicide? Hypothetically speaking, of course. :)

blu666z
February 21st, 2012, 06:10 PM
Oh good...his Facebook profile isn't private...

Sam
February 21st, 2012, 07:01 PM
His mom is stoked for him...

Scott
February 21st, 2012, 07:36 PM
Ding!

Went to FB and Scott (Tuesday Twos TD) posted that NICK PUTZ :pullhair:. Hit an ace at Lunchtime and guess what...signed sealed and delivered the FIRST TAGGING. GOOD JOB NICK PUTZ !!!

:headbang:

Here you go. This basket had been in the ground less than 48 hours.

chris7graham
February 21st, 2012, 08:07 PM
Nicholas Putz #49269 :pullhair::pullhair::pullhair::pullhair: OMG:waaah::waaah::waaah::waaah: I'M GOING TO BLOW!!!!!

Ol' Bob
February 21st, 2012, 08:32 PM
Nicholas Putz #49269 :pullhair::pullhair::pullhair::pullhair: OMG:waaah::waaah::waaah::waaah: I'M GOING TO BLOW!!!!!

Don't you think that would be a little too good for him?

Jeff Hemmerling
February 21st, 2012, 09:22 PM
Don't you think that would be a little too good for him?Nice Bob. One of your best ones! ;)

blu666z
February 21st, 2012, 09:42 PM
Nice Bob. One of your best ones! ;)

Ol' Bob, swingin' for the fences!

http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/strollerderby/T-Ball_06_039_website.jpg

Scott
February 21st, 2012, 09:42 PM
Don't you think that would be a little too good for him?

+1

:cheers:

psychodwarf
February 21st, 2012, 10:06 PM
I was playing in a big group of seven yesterday and didn't get an ace but I made a really sweet 50 foot putt. I was really proud of it so I pulled out the sharpie and wrote my name, date, pdga number, type of putter used including the color and weight, on the basket.

It took so long to write all this information on the baket that the group of 2 people behind us asked very politely if they could play through. Of course I told them to go F-off and just wait till I'm done. I don't think I offended the 14 year old girl and her dad.

I then threw my empty beer cans on the ground, cussed at a casual park user, watched my unleashed pit bull crap on the next tee pad, and finished my fun round.

Looking forward to my next round! :chug:

are you sure you dont play in spokane ? i am QUITE sure i seen you do this ...:nahnah:

CMC206
February 21st, 2012, 10:51 PM
Wow 203 ft.

jdinteg
February 21st, 2012, 10:56 PM
Sent "Nick ^&*(" a message through the scene voicing my disappointment in his vandalism and encouraging he rectify it soon with some goof off. I suggest everyone frustrated like me do the same to assure he understands this is not acceptable behavior in the DG community.
I too am jaded though, I see this at Leverich, and Glenwood where I play frequently. I grow weary of the well known people in our DG community continuing to vandalize for an Ace. Just write it on your disc and mount it to a wall. Enshrine that bad boy in a glass case and invite everyone to stare at it while you speak of your spectacular feet of sporting prowess. Just please stop tagging our baskets!

LegoRules
February 21st, 2012, 11:21 PM
No need to send Nick anymore messages. He is planning on trying to clean up the tag, and is truly sorry. He is new, and did not know this was not accepted behavior. With all the tagging that goes on it only makes sense that a new player would think that is the thing to do. It is up to us as a disc golf community to educate people, and get the word out that this in not the proper etiquette. I think now Nick will be a part of the solution, and not part of the problem. Sometimes that is all it takes is to just inform people, and not insult people.

Cindy :)

jdinteg
February 21st, 2012, 11:24 PM
I fully agree, good thing I was courteous and did not attempt to insult him. Please forward my appreciation to Nick for rectifying the concern.

LegoRules
February 21st, 2012, 11:34 PM
I fully agree, good thing I was courteous and did not attempt to insult him. Please forward my appreciation to Nick for rectifying the concern.

Sorry Josh I did not mean to make a blanket statement like that. I just know that some of the messages he got were most likely not too tackful, but I am sure some were. Anyway he is planning on going out there before work tomorrow to try and clean up the basket, so props to him I say. :yay:

Cindy :)

HarrisonH
February 22nd, 2012, 12:03 AM
CALLED IT!!! I absolutely won't go easy on this guy when I run into him... of course I give everyone shit, but seriously... tagging the basket, and especially from the short pad... ugh...

dc1
February 22nd, 2012, 08:17 AM
No need to send Nick anymore messages. He is planning on trying to clean up the tag, and is truly sorry. He is new, and did not know this was not accepted behavior. With all the tagging that goes on it only makes sense that a new player would think that is the thing to do. It is up to us as a disc golf community to educate people, and get the word out that this in not the proper etiquette. I think now Nick will be a part of the solution, and not part of the problem. Sometimes that is all it takes is to just inform people, and not insult people.

Cindy :)

Well said Cindy!

blu666z
February 22nd, 2012, 08:26 AM
I absolutely won't go easy on this guy when I run into him.

What's the point? He's already apologized and is going to rectify the situation, which is more than most people would do. No sense alienating him more now.

Bullseye
February 22nd, 2012, 09:04 AM
What's the point? He's already apologized and is going to rectify the situation, which is more than most people would do. No sense alienating him more now.

I agree. This guy owned his mistake and has agreed to make it right. That is pretty rare these days, so I have to commend him for that.

Let's cut him some slack. It is the right thing to do.

mowens404
February 22nd, 2012, 09:52 AM
CALLED IT!!! I absolutely won't go easy on this guy when I run into him... of course I give everyone shit, but seriously... tagging the basket, and especially from the short pad... ugh...


It was from the short pad?!!? :pullhair: wow, great shot nick putz. maybe he should have written his name a little bigger so everyone can see how awesome he was at that 1 shot.

Scott
February 22nd, 2012, 09:57 AM
It was from the short pad?!!? :pullhair: wow, great shot nick putz. maybe he should have written his name a little bigger so everyone can see how awesome he was at that 1 shot.

The distance from the pad is irrelevant. The basket should NEVER be signed.

Ol' Bob
February 22nd, 2012, 10:05 AM
I'm concerned that the tag is like cat spray. Even if it almost all comes off, the next tomcat will sense it, and mark it again. And then the next...

Adam Schneider
February 22nd, 2012, 10:20 AM
I'm disappointed... all these messages about Nick Putz, and not a single one goofing on his last name (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/putz)? :)

NWDiscer
February 22nd, 2012, 10:29 AM
I'm disappointed... all these messages about Nick Putz, and not a single one goofing on his last name (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/putz)? :)


well Sam has not been in this thread yet.....

and who knows maybe this forum is growing up :whistler: :laughing: :rolleyes2: :nahnah:


:cheers:

Scott
February 22nd, 2012, 10:44 AM
I'm disappointed... all these messages about Nick Putz, and not a single one goofing on his last name (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/putz)? :)

For those inclined to Facebook, check out the caption I used on the photo that started off the Nick Putz shitstorm.

http://www.facebook.com/#!/photo.php?fbid=2960138157341&set=a.1600627970436.2082059.1078147791&type=1&theater

Scott
February 22nd, 2012, 10:45 AM
and who knows maybe this forum is growing up :whistler: :laughing: :rolleyes2: :nahnah:



BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

:laughing::laughing::laughing::laughing:

No, seriously. That's a good one.

softwinterwhispers
February 22nd, 2012, 02:45 PM
Well said Cindy and I was just about to type the same thing. I know I have come accross people who are not informed and think it is common practice and acceptable to sign the baskets. They see many people doing it and assume its just a norm. This could be seen as one of those things that are on the fine line as there are no specific written rules set in stone. Most mistakes happen due to lack of education. Maybe more education on this subject matter should be discussed. Lets spread it around on why this is not acceptable and start informing others. Maybe a good subject to talk about at the upcoming Stumptown meeting and the like. I know when I have encountered people with this thinking I have told them why its a bad idea to do this and most people come back saying that they never thought of that before and don't plan to do it in the future.

No need to send Nick anymore messages. He is planning on trying to clean up the tag, and is truly sorry. He is new, and did not know this was not accepted behavior. With all the tagging that goes on it only makes sense that a new player would think that is the thing to do. It is up to us as a disc golf community to educate people, and get the word out that this in not the proper etiquette. I think now Nick will be a part of the solution, and not part of the problem. Sometimes that is all it takes is to just inform people, and not insult people.

Cindy :)

Bullseye
February 22nd, 2012, 03:27 PM
I heard Nick went out to Lunchtime today and cleaned off the new basket.

Since he has apologized and followed through on his promise to clean it off, I'd like to be one of the first people to commend him on how he handled himself once this all came to light. He could have taken an entirely different path on this, but chose the right one... rather than the easy one.



PS: One last thing... I know we were all pissed off, and rightly so, but I think it would be pretty cool if we reciprocate by removing Nick's last name from the posts in this thread. As a mod, I could do this, but I'd rather see everyone do it themselves. Please?

General Scales
February 22nd, 2012, 04:24 PM
I heard Nick went out to Lunchtime today and cleaned off the new basket.

Since he has apologized and followed through on his promise to clean it off, I'd like to be one of the first people to commend him on how he handled himself once this all came to light. He could have taken an entirely different path on this, but chose the right one... rather than the easy one.

Kudos! :trophy:

jdinteg
February 22nd, 2012, 07:11 PM
I agree, he did what was right and was very apologetic. The best thing we can do as a community is let it go and treat him with respect.

Mat,
"If" I can make a 200' Ace, I will be squealing and skipping around like a little school girl. When I finish dancing around I will expect your signature on my disc as a witness!

jeffmonty
February 22nd, 2012, 07:48 PM
Revel in your ace, sign your friggen Disc, and move on.

He made a mistake he probably won't repeat, he fixed it and is sorry, let's leave him alone and move on.

Ol' Bob
February 22nd, 2012, 08:48 PM
I'm disappointed... all these messages about Nick Putz, and not a single one goofing on his last name (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/putz)? :)

Well, if you've ever had your putz nicked, you know how painful that can be.

Thought it, but didn't post it. Think of this as a command performance.

Scott
February 23rd, 2012, 10:19 AM
Well, if you've ever had your putz nicked, you know how painful that can be.

Thought it, but didn't post it. Think of this as a command performance.

Thanks Bob. I knew you wouldn't let us down.

mowens404
February 23rd, 2012, 10:21 AM
I agree, he did what was right and was very apologetic. The best thing we can do as a community is let it go and treat him with respect.

Mat,
"If" I can make a 200' Ace, I will be squealing and skipping around like a little school girl. When I finish dancing around I will expect your signature on my disc as a witness!

Josh I will be the first to sign your disc when I see you ace. I didn't mean to act like a 200 foot ace is not impressive because it is. I meant to say that it isn't impressive enough to write your name permanently on the very front of the basket. Maybe an ace like Gawain's would be worthy of such an act:wink2:. As for mounting your disc on the wall, I've thrown and lost all 6 of my ace discs. You gotta use them, just because you made a long shot doesn't mean you shouldn't use the disc anymore, if anything it has proven its worth to you and you should be throwing it, often.

mowens404
February 23rd, 2012, 10:23 AM
an another note, I e-mailed Nick Putz with only the sentence.... "Nice ace man." he e-mailed me back a huge write up saying how sorry he was etc... I explained that I was only joking and wanted to give him a hard time, and that I figured enough other people already gave him a lot of grief for it. He seemed happy that I was joking. He sounds very remorseful for doing it.

Scott
February 23rd, 2012, 10:25 AM
As for mounting your disc on the wall, I've thrown and lost all 6 of my ace discs. You gotta use them, just because you made a long shot doesn't mean you shouldn't use the disc anymore, if anything it has proven its worth to you and you should be throwing it, often.

I put my first ace disc on the wall because that's what I heard you do (good thing I didn't hear that you are supposed to sign the basket). A year later I put the disc back in my bag because I missed it. The first throw after I put it in my bag nearly aced, and so did a few others. A week later, it was gone. Left on a fairway and never returned. Regrets? None at all. Discs are meant to be thrown.

NWDiscer
February 23rd, 2012, 10:33 AM
Maybe an ace like Gawain's would be worthy of such an act


:yay::trophy: that 1 is almost worthy of engraving on the pole........:nahnah: :nono:




:cheers:

NWDiscer
February 23rd, 2012, 10:50 AM
as for retiring Ace's....i have 4 on my wall

1st Ace

1st Tourney Ace

1st Ace of the New Millennium in a Tourney 1-1-01 10:43 am

Triple Ace Disc, because it became way to flippy :dancing:


i have also lost at least 3 after not retiring them and i have 1 Ace disc that is in my bag now and another 1 that rotates in and out of my bag. :yawn: ;)

:cheers:

Scott
February 24th, 2012, 09:58 AM
Since I'm generally not a very trusting guy (I prefer the term cynical), I went back out to lunchtime and checked on Nick's artwork. Sure enough, I had a real tough time telling it was ever even there.
I'll send Nick a personal message as well, but I would like to publicly thank Nick for owning his mistake and making it right.

Sam
February 24th, 2012, 10:08 AM
Aw. A touching story of success.

Adam Schneider
February 24th, 2012, 10:12 AM
I'm pretty cynical myself, so I took it upon myself to go out to Lunchtime after Scott had been there. Look what I found!

http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/1247/attachment3s.jpg

Scott
February 24th, 2012, 10:26 AM
I'm pretty cynical myself, so I took it upon myself to go out to Lunchtime after Scott had been there. Look what I found!

http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/1247/attachment3s.jpg

Clearly not mine. I tag my baskets with my pdga #, disc used (including make, model, plastic, weight, color, and relative flippiness), and list of witnesses.

maccallum
February 24th, 2012, 10:27 AM
an another note, I e-mailed Nick Putz with only the sentence.... "Nice ace man." he e-mailed me back a huge write up saying how sorry he was etc... I explained that I was only joking and wanted to give him a hard time, and that I figured enough other people already gave him a lot of grief for it. He seemed happy that I was joking. He sounds very remorseful for doing it.

I hope you felt like an AWESOME DUDE. Nothing like picking up a new hobby, making a bad judgement call due to lack of someone explaining proper etiquette and having the collective community attack you like you just raped their daughter.

I'm not attacking you personally, whoever you are, but rather the community that sits on their holier than thou thrones casting stones at anyone who dares offend them, their rules, or their precious toys.

Grow up, stop being AWESOME DUDES and have a nice day.

Scott
February 24th, 2012, 10:36 AM
Grow up, stop being pricks

Ironic.

Adam Schneider
February 24th, 2012, 10:39 AM
Clearly not mine. I tag my baskets with my pdga #, disc used (including make, model, plastic, weight, color, and relative flippiness), and list of witnesses.
I stand corrected.

http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/9472/attachment4k.jpg

Scott
February 24th, 2012, 10:52 AM
I stand corrected.

http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/9472/attachment4k.jpg

Yeah, that was me. Busted. I'll see if I can borrow Nick's can of goof-off and go clean it up.


(you have no idea how hard I'm laughing right now).

Sam
February 24th, 2012, 11:21 AM
I'm not attacking you personally, whoever you are, but rather the community that sits on their holier than thou thrones casting stones at anyone who dares offend them, their rules, or their precious toys. You all make me sick and are one of the main reasons I have written the Disc Golf Community off.

Man... too bad it didn't stick. Let's hope you have better luck staying away this next time because I seriously think that that would be a good thing for both the community and the sport.

Buh-bye now. :)

Bullseye
February 24th, 2012, 11:22 AM
I hope you felt like an asshole. Nothing like picking up a new hobby, making a bad judgement call due to lack of someone explaining proper etiquette and having the collective community attack you like you just raped their daughter.

I'm not attacking you personally, whoever you are, but rather the community that sits on their holier than thou thrones casting stones at anyone who dares offend them, their rules, or their precious toys. You all make me sick and are one of the main reasons I have written the Disc Golf Community off.

Grow up, stop being pricks and have a nice day.


Scott,

I must say, I was pretty surprised to see a post like this from you considering how much work you have done for Disc Golf in your area. Holier than thou? Really? Vandalism is vandalism, plain and simple, and EVERYONE should know that. Likewise, we should not have to use kid gloves to let people know about that fact.

Yes, it pissed us off because we had just finished raising a ton of money, and had just put those brand new baskets in the ground a few days before this happened. Now you're going to come here and paint US as the bad guys because we called him out for it? Your logic totally escapes me on that one.

I will admit I'm disappointed people are still taking jabs at the guy after he has cleaned all of the tags off. He owned his mistake and he made it right, which I think is awesome. I'd like to think we're reasonable enough to forgive him and move on.

How about it? Are we?

Ol' Bob
February 24th, 2012, 01:56 PM
I stand corrected.

http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/9472/attachment4k.jpg

What's that font called, Scott? And how did you get the basket through your printer?

Scott
February 24th, 2012, 02:03 PM
What's that font called, Scott?

That would be the Schneider font.

Matt B.
February 24th, 2012, 02:04 PM
I'm pretty cynical myself, so I took it upon myself to go out to Lunchtime after Scott had been there. Look what I found!

http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/1247/attachment3s.jpg

Adam Schneider got some CHOPS, boiiiiiiiiiii! :laughing:

Adam Schneider
February 24th, 2012, 04:34 PM
That would be the Schneider font.
Nah, it's called Zachary (http://www.fontspace.com/edward-leach/zachary).

George A.
February 24th, 2012, 05:02 PM
Done and done

Parks
February 24th, 2012, 05:40 PM
In this thread, I learned that Adam actually has a sense of humor. It made me feel weird.