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Wobbly Bob
January 12th, 2012, 07:53 AM
2012 SPOKANE CHILI ICE BOWL
http://www.icebowlhq.com//docs/ib12colorlr.jpg
NO WIMPS, NO WHINERS
Date: Saturday, February 4, 2012
Sign-up: 9:30 - 10:30 am
Tee-off: 11:00 am
Where: Highbridge Disc Golf Course
How: Random Draw Doubles
3 Divisions: PRO - AM - WOMEN
Cost: $25 & 10 cans of food
Nested mini player pack
Everyone that plays wins a prize

Chili feed included
Mulligans - 1 for $1, 6 for $5, 36 for $25
Race For The Case CTP
Beer and Soda
1 throw for $1, 6 throws for $5

I've attached the flyer and a pledge sheet below.

General Scales
January 12th, 2012, 08:14 AM
Count me in!

TurtleHead
January 12th, 2012, 05:16 PM
I'll be there!

Simmeltron
January 12th, 2012, 06:09 PM
Questions about the mulligans.. I assume you have to buy them before the round or do you pay after you're done? If before the round, is it use them or lose them?

Dadio!
January 12th, 2012, 06:19 PM
Man, I'll be back on wrong 1/2 of state. Enjoy! :-)

Wobbly Bob
January 12th, 2012, 07:08 PM
Questions about the mulligans.. I assume you have to buy them before the round or do you pay after you're done? If before the round, is it use them or lose them?

You buy them before the round and it is use them or lose them, but you can use them to putt with. I added the flyer and pledge sheet to the first post.

General Scales
January 13th, 2012, 09:31 AM
Wish it was random draw

Wobbly Bob
January 13th, 2012, 10:23 AM
Wish it was random draw

It is random draw. :shocked:

Nubin
January 13th, 2012, 11:18 AM
3 Divisions: PRO - AM - WOMEN

Divisional random draw? pros with pros, ams with ams etc?

Wobbly Bob
January 13th, 2012, 12:08 PM
3 Divisions: PRO - AM - WOMEN

Divisional random draw? pros with pros, ams with ams etc?

Pros with Pros, Ams with Ams, Women with Women if there are enough to make up 3 or 4 teams. Women can however play Pro or Am if they want.

Wobbly Bob
January 24th, 2012, 09:37 PM
Please help us figure out how much CHILI to make!:seeya: Reserve your spot at the Ice Bowl by posting your intent to play in the tournament on this thread. :cheers:

General Scales
January 25th, 2012, 08:24 AM
I will be there if I can get a ride from the Valley. I haven't played an ice bowl in a couple years and I like the random draw dubs format. Anybody willing to snag me will receive gas and or beer money. Ride's choice.

psychodwarf
January 25th, 2012, 09:49 AM
I will be there if I can get a ride from the Valley. I haven't played an ice bowl in a couple years and I like the random draw dubs format. Anybody willing to snag me will receive gas and or beer money. Ride's choice.

stu if you need a ride just call me

Simmeltron
January 25th, 2012, 10:41 AM
Will be there for sure!

Lyounger
January 25th, 2012, 12:57 PM
Hi,

I plan to play...

Kymmer
January 27th, 2012, 09:10 PM
me 2

Nubin
January 27th, 2012, 09:14 PM
Please help us figure out how much CHILI to make!:seeya: Reserve your spot at the Ice Bowl by posting your intent to play in the tournament on this thread. :cheers:

I'll be there

coryreu
January 29th, 2012, 04:39 PM
I'll be there.

prospect
January 29th, 2012, 08:51 PM
I will be there with 2 others in tow. Can we pay day of?

coryreu
February 1st, 2012, 07:54 AM
I will be there with 2 others in tow. Can we pay day of?

Most people do.

BakederThinU
February 1st, 2012, 09:27 AM
I'll be flying in on Friday afternoon
It feels like ages since I was there last

TurtleHead
February 2nd, 2012, 12:43 PM
this is my first ice bowl. I see it starts at 11am. I have a funeral to be at by 4pm. How long does the ice bowl at HB usually take?

General Scales
February 2nd, 2012, 01:39 PM
I will be there with 2 others in tow. Can we pay day of?

Hey Cole how are you getting there? Can I snag a ride?

Yoduh
February 2nd, 2012, 02:19 PM
I can't make it because I ref the 2A District Wrestling Championships but I have a $50 sponsorship from Yoduh Disc Golf.

Yoduh
February 2nd, 2012, 02:19 PM
Call me and I will bring the money by today Bob.

Nubin
February 3rd, 2012, 11:19 AM
this is my first ice bowl. I see it starts at 11am. I have a funeral to be at by 4pm. How long does the ice bowl at HB usually take?

you will probaly finish your round but with mulligans and icy fairways, who knows

Wobbly Bob
February 3rd, 2012, 11:23 AM
I can't make it because I ref the 2A District Wrestling Championships but I have a $50 sponsorship from Yoduh Disc Golf.

Thanks Jeremy, I have Jeremy Graves the TD call you.

Wobbly Bob
February 3rd, 2012, 11:25 AM
this is my first ice bowl. I see it starts at 11am. I have a funeral to be at by 4pm. How long does the ice bowl at HB usually take?

Tournament should be finished throwing around 2 pm. Food over by 2:45 and awards over by 3:30 pm.

General Scales
February 3rd, 2012, 02:22 PM
So what is the record for this double's tournament? I gotta imagine it's at least 10 under.

prospect
February 4th, 2012, 09:44 AM
Stu, did you find a ride?

General Scales
February 4th, 2012, 07:04 PM
Ice bowl was awesome. Jeremy and I shot 11 under for solo possession of 4th. A three way tie for 1st kept us out of contention. Still the best senior project ever thrown. Had a blast and will be back next year.

Simmeltron
February 5th, 2012, 09:35 PM
I believe I may have lost my keyring at the ice bowl yesterday (on the road where I parked?). If anybody happened to have picked them up I would be eternally grateful. Thanks.

General Scales
February 8th, 2012, 11:04 AM
So are we ever gonna find out how much food and money we raised? Get an official posting of results? Anybody find Simmel's keys?

Gordy #21004
February 8th, 2012, 12:31 PM
So are we ever gonna find out how much food and money we raised? Get an official posting of results? Anybody find Simmel's keys?

To everyone who supported the 2012 Ice Bowl Food And Funds Drive---A huge Thank You for your participation and donations. A special Thanks is also due to Bob and his grandson Jeremy Graves for organizing and hosting this Special Event. Thank You to the INWS for presenting the 'Chili Bowl' and for raising $1882.00 and almost 800 lbs. of food which was given to the 2nd Harvest Food Bank yesterday on behalf of the SDGA. The event also raised $85 for the SDGA in Host Fees. All You Guys combined generosity is unsurpassed.
Gordy, SDGA Treas.:trophy::chug:

Wobbly Bob
February 9th, 2012, 01:08 PM
So are we ever gonna find out how much food and money we raised? Get an official posting of results? Anybody find Simmel's keys?

http://www.nwdiscgolfnews.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1307&d=1328815189



The cash and food donated by the Spokane disc golfers that competed in the
Spokane Chili Ice Bowl was turned in on Tuesday Feb. 7, 2012 at 4:45 pm.

The OFFICIAL COUNT was;

723 lbs. of food

&

$2050.00

http://www.nwdiscgolfnews.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1305&d=1328812077



I would like to thank all the disc golfers and staff that came out to support the Ice Bowl in 2012. We had 85 players and 7 staff for a final count of 92 people. I would also like to thank all those people that supported the Ice Bowl through their pledges to family & friends.

Here's a breakdown of the donations made to the tournament.

$850 - 85 players @ $10 per player
$461 - Mulligans purchased by players
$360 - Pledge Sheets turned in by players
$181 - INWS disc sales sponsorship
$ 83 - Innova, Discraft and Vibram sponsorship of our Ice Bowl
$ 65 - Race for the Case CTP
$ 50 - Jeremy Thornton
$2050 Grand Total

A special thanks goes out to our newest Tournament Director - Jeremy Graves

GREAT JOB TO ALL

Parks
February 9th, 2012, 01:37 PM
That picture puts it into perspective. Nice to see Jeremy TDing a tournament and getting involved with charity.

ScottW
February 9th, 2012, 02:55 PM
Nice job to everyone who played and helped. That's very cool to see. I hope that at least gets a small article in the paper.

Is Jeremy being pummeled with requests to run more tournaments yet?:D

General Scales
February 9th, 2012, 02:58 PM
That picture puts it into perspective. Nice to see Jeremy TDing a tournament and getting involved with charity.

Yeah, best senior project ever.

Wobbly Bob
February 9th, 2012, 06:44 PM
Just so everyone knows; Gordy posted that the SDGA donated $1882 to the Food Bank. This was the amount that the INWS gave to the SDGA as funds raised. Gordy then wrote a check to the Food Bank for this amount and gave it back to the TD.

This amount was not the donation total because Gordy didn't know about the other two sponsor checks that were made out directly to the Food Bank and these checks were not run through the SDGA checking account.

Disc Golf World of Kansas City sent a check for $83 to the SDGA made out to the Food Bank for purchasing specially sponsored Innova, Discraft and Vibram discs.

The INWS added some of the profit ($85) from disc sales to bring the donation to an amount above last years.

3 checks - $1882 + $83 + $85 = $2050.

Three checks went to the Food Bank and were credited as a $2050 donation from the Spokane Disc Golf Assn.

There was never any attempt to confuse anyone concerning the amounts donated. Just poor communication skills on my part.

Simmeltron
February 10th, 2012, 09:35 AM
This was the amount that the INWS gave to the SDGA as funds raised.

I'm curious as to how much the SDGA raised total vs what the INWS gave back to us as funds raised? Was there a significant administration portion taken out? Meant to ask that awhile back....

Oh yeah, and I found my keys, praise Jebus!! :dancing:

Simmeltron
February 10th, 2012, 09:38 AM
$360 - Pledge Sheets turned in by players


I'm confused by this, I personally turned in $410 in pledges. Where did the rest of that money go let alone other people's pledge sheets??

Wobbly Bob
February 14th, 2012, 11:41 AM
I'm confused by this, I personally turned in $410 in pledges. Where did the rest of that money go let alone other people's pledge sheets??

Hey Dana, here is a complete breakdown of where all the pledge money went.

Dana Simmelink turned in $410 in pledges. These pledges paid for;

Dana's entry fee @ $25
Dana's mulligans @ $25
Dana's disc @ $11
Dana's shirt @ $14
Dana's Hoody @ $25
Dana's Grand Prize for bringing in the most money in pledges @ $100 merchandise.

Out of the $410 in pledges Dana brought in, $50 in cash went to pay for Dana's fees and mullies and $150 went to Dana as incentive rewards.

This left $210 cash that was donated to the Food Bank.


John Tomsick turned in $250 in pledges. These pledges paid for;

Johns's entry fee @ $25
John's mulligans @ $25
John's disc @ $11
John's shirt @ $14
John's Hoody @ $25

Out of the $250 in pledges John brought in, $50 in cash went to pay for John's fees and mullies and $50 went to John as incentive rewards.

This left $150 cash that was donated to the Food Bank.

The Pledge Total was $660.
The benefit to the 2 players that raised pledges was $300.
This left $360 to benefit the Food Bank.

Simmeltron
February 14th, 2012, 01:06 PM
I see. Well I guess this was not very well explained (at ALL) on the pledge form. It stated that "Incentive Gifts" were available for people bringing in more donations than were required to play. Nowhere did it mention or infer that 100% of these incentive gifts, and the $100 Gift Certificate (which I was NOT allowed to use on one of the Tee-Sign sponsors as stated on the pledge form, only more schwag) came out of the actual funds I brought in for donations. I would never have accepted it all if I knew my donations paid for it all. If I wanted I could have spent my own $200 dollars to purchase all that schwag to support the SDGA. I told my donators this was for the 2nd Harvest Food Bank, not for $200 in free stuff for myself. Had I known this I would have forgone all incentives offered and just had the checks made directly out to the 2nd Harvest Food Bank.

Maybe I don't understand fully how the fundraising works exactly as I am new to the scene... I understand all the fundraiser discs and clothing has to be paid for somehow, but NOWHERE did it say all my donations would be paying for the "Incentive GIFTS".

Am I wrong in my assumptions? Next time I would like a better explanation of how these functions work when so much money is on the line.

Hey Dana, here is a complete breakdown of where all the pledge money went.

Dana Simmelink turned in $410 in pledges. These pledges paid for;

Dana's entry fee @ $25
Dana's mulligans @ $25
Dana's disc @ $11
Dana's shirt @ $14
Dana's Hoody @ $25
Dana's Grand Prize for bringing in the most money in pledges @ $100 merchandise.

Out of the $410 in pledges Dana brought in, $50 in cash went to pay for Dana's fees and mullies and $150 went to Dana as incentive rewards.

This left $210 cash that was donated to the Food Bank.

General Scales
February 14th, 2012, 01:24 PM
I see. Well I guess this was not very well explained (at ALL) on the pledge form. It stated that "Incentive Gifts" were available for people bringing in more donations than were required to play. Nowhere did it mention or infer that 100% of these incentive gifts, and the $100 Gift Certificate (which I was NOT allowed to use on one of the Tee-Sign sponsors as stated on the pledge form, only more schwag) came out of the actual funds I brought in for donations. I would never have accepted it all if I knew my donations paid for it all. If I wanted I could have spent my own $200 dollars to purchase all that schwag to support the SDGA. I told my donators this was for the 2nd Harvest Food Bank, not for $200 in free stuff for myself. Had I known this I would have forgone all incentives offered and just had the checks made directly out to the 2nd Harvest Food Bank.

Maybe I don't understand fully how the fundraising works exactly as I am new to the scene... I understand all the fundraiser discs and clothing has to be paid for somehow, but NOWHERE did it say all my donations would be paying for the "Incentive GIFTS".

Am I wrong in my assumptions? Next time I would like a better explanation of how these functions work when so much money is on the line.

Amen

Gordy #21004
February 14th, 2012, 06:33 PM
Another example of how the benefit to the sponsor or donor works has been employed at INWS events for years. Admittedly the tournaments are not charity fundraisers but here's how a simpler example of the same thing works;---
Player Hal Hyzer brings in a $250 sponsorship for the LCO. The pledge form says a player registration fee is included as an incentive for bringing in the $250. The cost of the player registration (let's say $65) is deducted from the $250 to cover that players contribution to the tournament purse, leaving $185 as the donor's value remaining for supporting the event in general.
To get the money to cover the cost of the player reg. fee from elsewhere would only require an addition fundraiser effort to cover it. The same applies to the Ice Bowl benefits to players that derive from sponsor pledges. Or to put it simply,'Where the hell else is it supposed to come from' Perhaps there is too much incentive being promised,;; Dana may have brought in the same pledges anyway? What's worse and far more common is that an incentive or benefit is promised and is never delivered.
Over the years Bob and those who have worked with him on the Ice Bowl have provided one of the singular bright spots of each DG season. Yes, he needs to clarify from time to time but the results are always food in mouths and monies for the operation of 2nd Harvest Food Bank. Gordy:trophy:

Simmeltron
February 15th, 2012, 10:37 AM
Well if that is how things are normally done (and more importantly SHOULD be done) then I fully feel that there was too much incentives being promised (or at least lacking full disclosure). I never wanted to take $175 in free schwag when it came directly and 100% out of the pledge money I brought to the table. I wanted as much of that to go to the 2nd Harvest Food Bank as possible.

I will take this as a lesson learned (early fortunately) and in the future will just bring in funds to be DIRECTLY applied to the charity in focus.

Still, thanks for a very fun fundraiser to a very good cause! :trophy:

Wobbly Bob
February 16th, 2012, 08:21 AM
Well if that is how things are normally done (and more importantly SHOULD be done) then I fully feel that there was too much incentives being promised (or at least lacking full disclosure). I never wanted to take $175 in free schwag when it came directly and 100% out of the pledge money I brought to the table. I wanted as much of that to go to the 2nd Harvest Food Bank as possible.

I will take this as a lesson learned (early fortunately) and in the future will just bring in funds to be DIRECTLY applied to the charity in focus.

Still, thanks for a very fun fundraiser to a very good cause! :trophy:

Dana, this is the first year we have tried this incentive plan. This plan was promoted by Ice Bowl Central as a way to raise more dollars for our local charity, which it did. Had more disc golfers participated in this incentive plan then many more people in our community would know about disc golf and the good that it does for our community. This method was how Saint Cloud, Minnesota was able to raise over $14,000.

Gordy #21004
February 16th, 2012, 08:54 AM
Good point, Bob. If 20 people had brought in similar pledges instead of just 2 the relative size of the incentive would be far more nominal. It's a good thing you(Dana) and Tomsick responded the way you did or Bob may have had to eat the cost of the incentive himself.:shocked:

Wobbly Bob
February 16th, 2012, 09:17 AM
Good point, Bob. If 20 people had brought in similar pledges instead of just 2 the relative size of the incentive would be far more nominal. It's a good thing you(Dana) and Tomsick responded the way you did or Bob may have had to eat the cost of the incentive himself.:shocked:

That thought had crossed my mind!