Blue Lake Park

[Bullseye]

For those of you who were unable to attend the Stumptown Christmas Party this was one of our big announcements...

Blue Lake Park has been funded!!!

Read about it here! (http://news.oregonmetro.gov/1/post.cfm/metro-council-approves-gold-disc-golf-course-at-blue-lake-regional-park)

Proposed Course Design (http://library.oregonmetro.gov/editor/DiscGolf_courseDesign.pdf)

As soon as we have a little more information on the actual schedule, we will posting more information. One thing is certain, we will definitely be putting the shout out for help at the many work parties that will be required to make this happen.

Many thanks go out to the following members of the disc golf community who have been instrumental in moving this project forward.

Dave Feldberg (Course Designer), Tyler Christensen, Carl Thorne, Next Adventure (Bryan Knudsen) , Stumptown Disc Golf and anyone else who has helped along the way.

I don't know about you, but this makes me very happy indeed.

I can't wait!

Jeff Hagerty
Stumptown Disc Golf

[Stephen.Sines]

the proposed design looks pretty solid.

[Garro]

Allright! Great article, by the way. Portrays a good image for disc golf.

[Matt B.]

For those of you who were unable to attend the Stumptown Christmas Party this was one of our big announcements...

Blue Lake Park has been funded!!!

Read about it here! (http://news.oregonmetro.gov/1/post.cfm/metro-council-approves-gold-disc-golf-course-at-blue-lake-regional-park)

Proposed Course Design (http://library.oregonmetro.gov/editor/DiscGolf_courseDesign.pdf)

As soon as we have a little more information on the actual schedule, we will posting more information. One thing is certain, we will definitely be putting the shout out for help at the many work parties that will be required to make this happen.

Many thanks go out to the following members of the disc golf community who have been instrumental in moving this project forward.

Dave Feldberg (Course Designer), Tyler Christensen, Carl Thorne, Next Adventure (Bryan Knudsen) , Stumptown Disc Golf and anyone else who has helped along the way.

I don't know about you, but this makes me very happy indeed.

I can't wait!

Jeff Hagerty
Stumptown Disc Golf

Great article, great layout! Looks like a fun monster. Congratulations to everyone involved and thank you.

[Adam Schneider]

Will there be short/amateur tees?

[Bullseye]

Will there be short/amateur tees?


The greater Portland area already has a large number of amateur level courses in the area, and very few pro level, so the initial objective for Blue Lake is a professional level course.

With that said, there will most likely be amateur tees in the future.

[Adam Schneider]

The greater Portland area already has a large number of amateur level courses in the area, and very few pro level, so the initial objective for Blue Lake is a professional level course.
Well then this sentence in the Metro press release is simply false: "The course design creates a layout appropriate to both beginners and experienced professionals."

[Bullseye]

Well then this sentence in the Metro press release is simply false: "The course design creates a layout appropriate to both beginners and experienced professionals."

Looking a gift horse squarely in the mouth. Well done!

Actually, in all honesty the course is just as playable by ams as pros. They just throw the discs a few more times.

We clearly can't please everyone.

[Adam Schneider]

It bothers me because Blue Lake Park is a very popular place, and it could potentially expose a lot of newbies to disc golf. If this is their first experience with the sport, it may seem ridiculously frustrating, and it's not going to encourage them to return. (How many throws will it take a first-timer to go 974 feet?)

I wish there were either short tees installed from Day 1, or a 9-hole family-friendly pitch-and-putt course squeezed somewhere into that 70 acres.

[runnaman]

Vance and Rockwood are both really close to Blue Lake. Why not just put up a sign that directs newer players there?

[Sean Phillips]

Based on the number of beginners that seem to love Milo, I think they'll love Blue Lake. It has always surprises me when I meet a beginner and he says that his favorite course to play is Milo.

I think Blue Lake's layout is fairly beginner friendly. There aren't any 300' water hazards or anything like that.

[Jaemes]

After watching and contributing to this thread through out its life. I have to say, yes we need a gold tee course in the Portland Metro area and there are enough am/pitch put courses already.

[Bullseye]

It bothers me because Blue Lake Park is a very popular place, and it could potentially expose a lot of newbies to disc golf. If this is their first experience with the sport, it may seem ridiculously frustrating, and it's not going to encourage them to return. (How many throws will it take a first-timer to go 974 feet?)

I wish there were either short tees installed from Day 1, or a 9-hole family-friendly pitch-and-putt course squeezed somewhere into that 70 acres.

I'm sorry it doesn't sync up with your desires, but from day one the primary objective at Blue Lake has been for it to be world-class course, not a pitch & putt. Yes, there is a possibility some people might be a little discouraged by the difficulty of the course until the short pads are installed, but I'm sure a lot of people will get a kick out of seeing the best players in our area shredding this new course.

One thing I do know for certain is that just because a course is long or difficult does not mean people of all skill levels will not play it. Milo McIver is a huge course and its a tough course as well, and that course gets a lot of use, from competitive players and casual players alike.

[Bullseye]

After watching and contributing to this thread through out its life. I have to say, yes we need a gold tee course in the Portland Metro area and there are enough am/pitch put courses already.

Jaemes,

Good to see you are still following this project. I remember talking with you about it at that frozen Fairview City Hall meeting. Last I had heard you busted up your leg or something... I hope you're all healed up and ready to go (to a work party ;)

Jeff

[Sean Phillips]

How many throws will it take a first-timer to go 974 feet?

5 :dancing:

[Adam Schneider]

Vance and Rockwood are both really close to Blue Lake. Why not just put up a sign that directs newer players there?
That's a good idea. I hope there's some kind of disclaimer at Teepad #1 that says "This is a pro-level disc golf course. If you're just starting out, you may be happier at Vance Park." (By the way, what's the status of Columbia View Park? That's even closer.)


5 :dancing:
Really? Most people throw 200' the first time they toss a disc? From what I've seen, they're lucky to break 100'.

[LegoRules]

The McMahan's are super excited to see this course go forward, and neither of us are big arms. Count us both in for the upcoming work parties.

Cindy :)

[Sean Phillips]

Really? Most people throw 200' the first time they toss a disc? From what I've seen, they're lucky to break 100'.

Maybe not the very first throw, but with good instruction I've seen most hit 200 within the 30 minutes.

Columbia View is in Ty Baker's capable hands. Very close to completion.

[Bullseye]

Austin, TX is building a brand new Formula One track so the best drivers in the world will come and race there... WAIT!!! They better make a go-kart track in case someone new wants to try their hand at racing.

New York, NY made a brand new baseball stadium for the Yankees... WAIT!!! they better make a little league field too, so new players can play also...

Anyone see parallels?


Guys,

For the umpteenth time... Blue Lake was ALWAYS meant to be a WORLD CLASS course FIRST, not a pitch & putt.

Instead of whining every time something doesn't perfectly suit YOUR needs, how about you bite your tongue and simply appreciate and support the work that people have been doing.

You'll get your short pads in due time, but for now either get on board or get out of the way, because the people who are not bitching are ready to get to WORK.


PS: It is so damned disappointing to see people bitching about this garbage already I can't even believe it.

[Matt B.]

Austin, TX is building a brand new Formula One track so the best drivers in the world will come and race there... WAIT!!! They better make a go-kart track in case someone new wants to try their hand at racing.

New York, NY made a brand new baseball stadium for the Yankees... WAIT!!! they better make a little league field too, so new players can play also...

Anyone see parallels?


Guys,

For the umpteenth time... Blue Lake was ALWAYS meant to be a WORLD CLASS course FIRST, not a pitch & putt.

Instead of whining every time something doesn't perfectly suit YOUR needs, how about you bite your tongue and simply appreciate and support the work that people have been doing.

You'll get your short pads in due time, but for now either get on board or get out of the way, because the people who are not bitching are ready to get to WORK.


PS: It is so damned disappointing to see people bitching about this garbage already I can't even believe it.

Well gosh, if you can't come up with something that is all things to all people, why even bother spending hundreds of hours working for free to provide it?

[Jason Philips]

I am excited for this, this will now be the closest course to my office and will give me a chance to take some long lunches and play a round or two.

[Adam Schneider]

Austin, TX is building a brand new Formula One track so the best drivers in the world will come and race there... WAIT!!! They better make a go-kart track in case someone new wants to try their hand at racing.

New York, NY made a brand new baseball stadium for the Yankees... WAIT!!! they better make a little league field too, so new players can play also...

Anyone see parallels?
No, I don't see parallels. People already know about car racing and baseball; there's not much of a curiosity factor there. But disc golf in Blue Lake Park is a potentially major P.R. opportunity.

I wouldn't mind so much if they'd just omitted the "beginners" bit from their announcement.

And c'mon, I never said that we shouldn't have really long courses. I just think that if we can — with some extra concrete — basically create TWO courses instead of one, and serve a larger audience, we should do it. Not later, but right away.

[emmarose]

if anyone complains about this course again, i swear i will vomit all over... ummm... i was going to say your shoes, but i guess it would really be my keyboard... so i'll do my best not to vomit, but seriously, c'mon people... this is so clearly not something to complain about...

[Bullseye]

Ok, we can't please everyone with a single piece of property, but lets keep this thread as positive as well can. Anyway you slice it, this is a good thing... and to some of us... it is a GREAT thing.

[Jason Philips]

But Jeff, they still haven't started complaining about the holes that are left or right freindly and the people who may oppose those. Think of those who can only throw straight.


I get the point Adam but take the time to promote a short course rather than complain to the people building new courses. The energy complaining could be so much better spent. Even the energy I am expending to write a response could be used in so many better ways.

[kel]

It appears it would be easier to keep specific course details on the Schneid until the course is ready for play. However that wouldn't do much for gathering the collective energy needed to help put this course in the ground would it?

[runnaman]

When is the next work party? I'll be in the Portland area until around the 27th.

[emmarose]

When is the next work party? I'll be in the Portland area until around the 27th.

well done, chase. positive, proactive, and putting the conversation back where it needs to be. i like your attitude, young man.

[Bruce]

When is the next work party? I'll be in the Portland area until around the 27th.

We are all wondering the same thing. Though since the course officially has funding now..we may have our first work party soon. Let's go Blue Lake, and whiners please stay home!

[Magilla]

Dang it all, I want a course that has nothing but RHBH bomb hyzers and anything inside the circle is considered good...no putting :whistler:

Seriously. In my experience, the length/difficulty of a course has ZERO impact on beginners playing it. Try playing a round at Santa Cruz on a wednesday around noon. Could be a lot of fun if you like playing behind 6-10somes of single disc players (Louies, as we used to call them)
Or go out to Mt Bachelor in the summer and check out the familys playing with "Humphry Flyers" and having an absolute blast.

MAKE IT AND THEY WILL COME!!

This is absolutely the BEST news that I have heard concerning Disc Golf in Oregon since I relocated here 7 yrs ago. Way to go and BIG props to ALL who have taken on this incredible task.

:cheers:

Now hurry up and get it in....I need another reason to head over the Mtns. :biggrin2:

[jdinteg]

This is gonna be a beast, over 10k feet long! (10,757.38') Dave, Tyler, and everyone else that got this here great job. Bryan thank you so much for all you continue to do for our sport in this area.

I'm so ready to get to work.

I have no hope of parring this course anytime soon, But I think I could par holes 3,7,18 and maybe birdie hole 5. Though I will fall short of reaching Par level anytime soon, I cannot wait to spend a ton of time trying. That is what will make newer players better. The best did not practice only on the small courses, but went to places like Milo or tougher to push themselves beyond their comfort zone. This area is loaded with short and or technical courses for all to learn and enjoy, now we have a close course that will be Tough and REALLY long! All the people who would rather play shorter courses should be overjoyed that they will suddenly find parking, and more frequent tee pad openings on their favorite short course, while many travel to the new challenges Blue lake will offer.

I will be the 1st one in line to get my yearly parking pass once the course is in and open. Additionally I am eager to get to work with any help needed in woodworking, grinding, digging, pruning, planting, raking, brush removing, pouring, typing, or whatever (ing) needs done.

[Magilla]

All the people who would rather play shorter courses should be overjoyed that they will suddenly find parking, and more frequent tee pad openings on their favorite short course, while many travel to the new challenges Blue lake will offer.


:yay::yay::yay:

:cheers:

[Denny]

I for one am super excited for this course to come to fruition.
It will be nice to see the big guns have a place to stretch out at.

[Stephen.Sines]

yup.... i like it denny.

btw: anybody here feel like getting pistol-whipped with a airsoft gun? apparently my boss did

[jdinteg]

New Article on Blue Lake

http://www.theoutlookonline.com/news/story.php?story_id=132443201565258900

[runnaman]

New Article on Blue Lake

http://www.theoutlookonline.com/news/story.php?story_id=132443201565258900

Good article, thanks for posting

[Pineapple]

Awesome news!! Having a pro level course to play here in p town will only help us to get better!! I think a world class course is a huge Benifit to anyone who Plays or wants to learn. I'll be watching for future posts and am ready to help any way possible!

[dooley]

It bothers me because Blue Lake Park is a very popular place, and it could potentially expose a lot of newbies to disc golf. If this is their first experience with the sport, it may seem ridiculously frustrating, and it's not going to encourage them to return. (How many throws will it take a first-timer to go 974 feet?)

I wish there were either short tees installed from Day 1, or a 9-hole family-friendly pitch-and-putt course squeezed somewhere into that 70 acres.

there are plenty of courses in the Portland area that i would consider a beginner friendly course.I feel ANY course put in or improved is a benefit to all of us.I feel this would help any future aspirations of having a Worlds or more A tier events.It would also take some pressure off local courses where most of us involved...began and still enjoy.Let the work partys begin and learn to appreciate any course regardless of your current skill level.I will be helping and thank you to Dave,Jeff,Tyler,Carl and all who kept this project(that we will all benefit from)going foward.:yay:

[spikehyzer]

Is it ready yet ?-). I'm gonna throw everything as a par three and my fragile ego will just need to deal with triples or worse.

[JMan]

Why would anyone play everything as a 3? Do people do that on a stick golf course...doubtful. Par 4s and 5s have been part of this game since its inception, I have the paperwork to prove it. What's wrong with a course that challenges you to set up your next shot? And why is it not accepted that much longer holes with tough terrain deserve a 4 or 5? And please don't claim, "To keep the math easy"...REALLY. What, can't anyone add or subtract 1 from your current score? I wager any visiting pros will play the 4s and 5s as such. It is a wonderful aspect of the game...many should try it...it may catch on...lol.

[Bullseye]

Why would anyone play everything as a 3? Do people do that on a stick golf course...doubtful. Par 4s and 5s have been part of this game since its inception, I have the paperwork to prove it. What's wrong with a course that challenges you to set up your next shot? And why is it not accepted that much longer holes with tough terrain deserve a 4 or 5? And please don't claim, "To keep the math easy"...REALLY. What, can't anyone add or subtract 1 from your current score? I wager any visiting pros will play the 4s and 5s as such. It is a wonderful aspect of the game...many should try it...it may catch on...lol.


While I wholeheartedly agree with you JMan, I would suggest you do not take this logic-based argument anywhere near Sea-Tac. The yahoos up there are still claiming its a par 54. :p

[Scott]

Why would anyone play everything as a 3?

Math is hard. :headbang:

[JMan]

this new math must be base3...roflmao

[Stephen.Sines]

so what is the update on physical progress?

[Bullseye]

The project is funded and will definitely be moving forward. I'll post more information after our next planning meeting scheduled for January 31st.

[Jason Bruster]

Will the Blue Lake DGC be immune to seasonal flooding?

[Wes Hansen]

It must be very swampy there now- right Jeff or someone?
I'd imagine a good portion of the course might be in inches of water.

[Stephen.Sines]

Drainage?

[mowens404]

I am very excited for this course. I am free almost every weekend for work parties.

on a side-note, how is the ground? pretty flat, very bumpy, a lot of elevation. basically I want to know if you can throw rollers out there like you can at Milo...

[XandorF]

I am very excited for this course. I am free almost every weekend for work parties.

on a side-note, how is the ground? pretty flat, very bumpy, a lot of elevation. basically I want to know if you can throw rollers out there like you can at Milo...

rollers will not be your friend at blue lake my friend. highgrass that frames the fairways will be out of bounds, and unless you can get your roller to stick to a 100' fairway without going OB on EVERY hole... you get the picture. its a par 4, 5 course anyways. you dont need a roller, just a solid teeshot that sticks the fairway, and a ballin upshot. i think you will be more tempted to cut the corners on some dogleg's than throwing rollers. but i really dont think thats a good idea either.