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REDFIVE
November 23rd, 2011, 11:23 PM
I picked up a couple of proto star teedevils and after one session in the field I didnt notice much difference between these and my echo destroyers. Anybody notice a difference between these discs or did I waste $40?

Bruce
November 24th, 2011, 01:42 AM
I threw one this last weekend for the first time. It was one of the champion proto's. I love destroyers and to me the teedevil felt a little faster, and I don't know if it was just me that day or what, but I seemed to get more distance out of it. I was also getting a cleaner release, not sure if that has to do with the inner lip difference or not. Could have also just been the novelty of a new disc in my hand, to many variables based on maybe 5 throws to really say anything concrete.

Mr. Anderson
November 24th, 2011, 01:47 PM
Before I lost my Tee Devil I felt it was more low speed stable, crashed very hard to left at the end of its flight throwing RHBH. Slightly faster than the destoryer. I would have like to break it in a little more to see its value as a max distance flexing shot, but I decided to throw it into the river.:waaah:

maynard
November 24th, 2011, 03:37 PM
Ive been throwing/testing out the champion tee devil and it is very fast and a great straight side arm disc as well.

himynameismatt
November 24th, 2011, 08:17 PM
Pretty well known fact that teedevils were ran as destroyers prior to their arrival. They are identical teedevil just has slanted rim and is slightly less stable.

REDFIVE
November 25th, 2011, 12:39 AM
Well known fact or overheard rumor? The molds are different.

himynameismatt
November 25th, 2011, 08:53 AM
Well known fact or overheard rumor? The molds are different.

The molds aren't very different at all. The Teedevil is basically a Destroyer+ aka Destroyer with a Slanted Top. Rim width, depth etc. are the same.

And yes it is a pretty well known fact that many, many Teedevils were stamped as Destroyers. You can tell because True Destroyers don't have slanted "+(plus) configuration" rims, Teedevils, and Destroyer Stamped Teedevils do.

I have about half a dozen Destroyers across various runs of plastic that are identical to any Teedevil you own, and I also have another 12-15 "True" Destroyers. The difference is quite obvious.

So to answer the original question, If Innova was running Teedevils as Destroyers then no, they aren't that different and yes, you did waste $40.

Forgot to mention all the information I just gave you can be confirmed here.
http://www.discgolfreview.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=16908

REDFIVE
November 25th, 2011, 10:27 AM
Why do you have so many destroyers?

maynard
November 25th, 2011, 12:36 PM
Dont believe everything you read. The TeeDevil has a Destroyer bottom with a Vulcan top. Ask Dave Dunipace... Im not saying they never miss print discs.
Besides a plus+configuration rim pertains to the bottom plate which has the slant for easy release. Show me a Destroyer or a TeeDevil or a Vulcan that has a plus+ configuration bottom plate. No such disc that I'm aware of.

Bruce
November 25th, 2011, 09:51 PM
Eh, comparing a new run echo destroyer to the production run teedevils I just got, both in star plastic, the wing is totally different than the destroyer. I'll take pictures tomorrow, but the wing is different.

Bad Finger
December 1st, 2011, 02:12 PM
I love my Destrulcans!

juda4936
February 22nd, 2012, 09:10 PM
I think the teedevil breaks about 1/2 as much as a destroyer. My teedevils even turn over on a warm day, but i can't easily turn over a destroyer

REDFIVE
February 22nd, 2012, 10:15 PM
I found that the destroyer is awesome and the teedevil is not.

Bruce
February 22nd, 2012, 10:51 PM
Yeah, I liked the champ teedevil I threw before buying the stars. I just don't see the star having a place in my bag with the destroyers I throw.

Forest
February 23rd, 2012, 01:15 AM
So why did innova change the shape of the destroyer?http://www.nwdiscgolfnews.com/forum/images/smilies/chinscratch.gif and from what i can see the tee devil is just slightly more pinched on the top of the edge than the new destroyer. pretty much the same disc (haven't beat one in yet though). will they make old destroyers anymore?

General Scales
February 23rd, 2012, 07:13 AM
So why did innova change the shape of the destroyer?http://www.nwdiscgolfnews.com/forum/images/smilies/chinscratch.gif and from what i can see the tee devil is just slightly more pinched on the top of the edge than the new destroyer. pretty much the same disc (haven't beat one in yet though). will they make old destroyers anymore?

It's supposed to be a less stable version of a Destroyer. If Innova wants to piss off a bunch of customers, they'd discontinue the Destroyer.

That's why I throw Force's. They've never changed.

jeverett
February 23rd, 2012, 09:37 AM
The Destroyer is one of the most popular discs for top distance throwers.. I don't see Innova switching that mold out ever, at least not for the most-desired plastics. My understanding was that the original Destrulcan (Vulcan top, Destroyer bottom) was something of an accident.. although that could just be a rumor. I have several of the original Echo Star Destrulcans, though.. all marked just E*DS. They (and the Teedevil that they became) aren't bad discs.. kinda like well-seasoned Destroyers right off the shelf. Just if you're expecting the stability of a fresh Destroyer (or have a cannon for an arm), they don't have it. ;)

extramontana
March 7th, 2012, 02:38 PM
I throw both and have found that the Teedevil turns a tad more. I flip it over more than I do my equally seasoned destroyer. Both in star plastic. Both these disc go a long way though. I like them both, but I don't really need both.

mine all mine
March 8th, 2012, 12:30 AM
did I waste $40?

I think you paid $40 for something that was intended for you to think it was truly different than what you already had.

darkdiscs
June 10th, 2012, 02:39 PM
Why do you have so many destroyers?

i have a lot more destroyers then anybody needs....i have about 4 dx, 5 pro, 2 champ, 1 champ blizz, 3 echo, and 6 star....all of them are a various color of pink too lol... what can i say, i love my destroyers

:bricks:

mowens404
June 11th, 2012, 09:16 AM
its the difference between a teebird and a TL. Just as resistant to turn but with less fade at the end. think of it as a DL

stickynicky
June 12th, 2012, 01:29 PM
i have a lot more destroyers then anybody needs....i have about 4 dx, 5 pro, 2 champ, 1 champ blizz, 3 echo, and 6 star....all of them are a various color of pink too lol... what can i say, i love my destroyers

:bricks:

lol you tryin to hook me up with a destroyer Matty O!? lol hit me up man! come play Tuesday Dubs at Timber Park dude! 503-757-2309 Nick.

mowens404
June 12th, 2012, 01:34 PM
lol you tryin to hook me up with a destroyer Matty O!? lol hit me up man! come play Tuesday Dubs at Timber Park dude! 503-757-2309 Nick.


Ha! not my post. is there another Matty O on the boards?

InfamousButcher
June 12th, 2012, 04:27 PM
OG destoryers for the win
:yay: