2011 TDG ratings

[Wes Hansen]

Dear Mr. Commissioner Sir,
Will TDG ratings be using the current PDGA ratings for the season- or will the Oct 25 PDGA update be factored in after the first event?
I had hoped the NAAC would show up in our rating before TDG started... as the only positive thing to come out my crappy play at the NAAC would be a healthy 10+ point drop in my rating- to start out with that extra stroke in TDG!
If I have to I can go to the preliminaries and embarrass myself with more poor rounds at Pier.... but I'd rather skip that debacle.

[Wes Hansen]

Must be a question I should know the answer to.
I'll just make one up.

[Susie Sunshine]

You could probably find the answer to your question in the Team Disc Golf rules (always a good thing to read, especially if you're a captain and all). They're in the files section at www.teamdiscgolf.com (Since there's no sub-section for this season yet, check the rules under 2010-2011).

[George A.]

:shocked: vapor trails taking you to school you should just stay home and call it a season...:D

[Sausage Fingers]

Or you could find that exact information in the thread where I posted it at least twice that I can remember...

:pirate:

[Wes Hansen]

Thanks for the input Susie. It was just the helpful answer I was looking for.
Well, not so much an answer. More snotty and useless.
As a Captain I've read the damn rules. The answer to my question isn't in them! But, again, thanks for the invaluable response.

Sometimes the threads are lots to wade through and I didn't believe my question related to the TIMING of PDGA Ratings updates as per their yearly application to initial TDG ratings was covered in the rules or in any thread I've read.
I'll start looking in the different TDG threads. Beginning with this year's posts and working backwards. I really thought I was up to date with this year's threads, but perhaps I missed it. Then I'll work backwards thru the years.

I can see how that would be easier than one knowledgeable person using a lot less words than all the other responses to just answer my question.


Oh, and shut up George, The Discrupters are gonna kick Vapor Tails asses. You'll be lucky to get a point out of the day! Better bring seven players...

[Wes Hansen]

No worries. Here's how we set ratings for TDG:
1. Current PDGA members use their current rating at the start of TDG Oct 8/9


I missed retaining the information in those six highlighted (note: I highlighted them for this post) characters. Out of the thousands of characters in the eleven, often tedious, pages of posts in the "Northwest Disc Golf News Forums > Disc Golf Events > Weekly/Monthly Series > Team Disc Golf > Team Disc Golf: Tdg 2011-12" thread, that level of one-time reading comprehension is astounding! I must be a friggin genius to have only missed that sliver of info. Glad to have found it buried there upon a second reading of 7 of those pages, as it isn't in the rules.

No NAAC in TDG ratings... I think. Because another post seems to indicate ALL PDGA events played in a year WILL be factored into TDG. So, I'm still a little uncertain I have an answer. However, at this point I'm good with just assuming an answer and letting someone correct me later if the subject ever comes up again. I'm easy.

So I get to go play Pier like shit again for the permanent record. Wonderful. Thanks.

(Hell, maybe VT will get lucky and play us there. Maybe they can get 2 points that day.)

[Susie Sunshine]

Wow. You seemed bothered that no one had answered you; I offered an answer - the best one that I could come up with. Not to be "snotty and useless", but sincerely to be helpful. Lesson learned on my part.

See ya out on the course. :cheers:

[Susie Sunshine]

Probably another useless answer to your question, but a quick search of this forum with the keywords "ratings update", yielded the following information: http://www.nwdiscgolfnews.com/forum/showthread.php?t=57&highlight=ratings+update

:cool:

[Wes Hansen]

Actually, that seems helpful. But is it outdated?
To keep with my grumpy tone- that 2008 thread seemed refer to 2008 related rules in section 2.1.3, wherein "November" PDGA updates are referenced. Does this then somehow follow that ALL PDGA updates thru the year will be used? Thereby requiring TDG ratings be "reset" each time the PDGA releases new ratings at any point in the TDG season? Or only PDGA updates in November?

I'm just trying to understand the TDG ratings math, nothing more. If there's a good source I'd be gosh darn tickled if someone would point me at it.

Or at least correct my math in this here example.

Player a has a current PDGA rating of say- 920. They throw one round at the Pier prelims. It's a 880. I think they then go into the first TDG event with (I'm lost at this first step) a 900 TDG rating. {I realize it could be the x#PDGArounds+1TDG prelim Round for an entirely different answer. But if 900 is correct, player A then plays 2 singles matches at TDG#1 with 950 and 950 rounds, giving them a 925 for TDG#2. But the next day PDGA releases Player A's new rating of 895, giving them an newly adjusted TDG#2 rating of 910?

Or is it something entirely different?

While the math probably seems crystal clear once you have the formula down, it still must be a trough-load of work to stay on top of the ratings.

Thanks Jordan.

[Wes Hansen]

Wow. You seemed bothered that no one had answered you; I offered an answer - the best one that I could come up with. Not to be "snotty and useless", but sincerely to be helpful. Lesson learned on my part.

See ya out on the course. :cheers:

Oh, and I semi-apologize Susie. It was the if-you're-a-Captain-you-should-know-the answer part that made me snap back. The information was not useless as I erroneously said. It just led me to having more questions. No disrespect intended on my part. :kissflowers:

(As a smart-ass I will also point out that if I follow the rules as outlined in your referenced 2008 version, I'd be showing up for TDG at some odd times and places. Not to mention those Saturday teams left with nothing to do.
I know, I know... but I'm using irony for humorous affect.):biggrin2:

[George A.]

Realy Wes ...shut up ... realy ...wow.. I suggest you stay home when your team plays VAPOR TRAILS!!!! We don't play around ... and if I was you I would stay clear of me... just saying

[jevon]

Realy Wes ...shut up ... realy ...wow.. I suggest you stay home when your team plays VAPOR TRAILS!!!! We don't play around ... and if I was you I would stay clear of me... just saying
Stay home? You mean like he did last year when we beat them 5-1 in the finals?

[DanD]

Love how much drama comes from a free league... and of course it all starts with the only team in the history of TDG to have a winless season. perhaps there is a better way to spend said time?

[George A.]

Dan you know it's "what ever" with me ...

[Sam]

I resent the hell out of the fact that I am not involved more in this thread...

http://www.rogueburners.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/1974.gif

[Scott]

I missed retaining the information in those six highlighted (note: I highlighted them for this post) characters. Out of the thousands of characters in the eleven, often tedious, pages of posts in the "Northwest Disc Golf News Forums > Disc Golf Events > Weekly/Monthly Series > Team Disc Golf > Team Disc Golf: Tdg 2011-12" thread, that level of one-time reading comprehension is astounding! I must be a friggin genius to have only missed that sliver of info. Glad to have found it buried there upon a second reading of 7 of those pages, as it isn't in the rules.

No NAAC in TDG ratings... I think. Because another post seems to indicate ALL PDGA events played in a year WILL be factored into TDG. So, I'm still a little uncertain I have an answer. However, at this point I'm good with just assuming an answer and letting someone correct me later if the subject ever comes up again. I'm easy.

So I get to go play Pier like shit again for the permanent record. Wonderful. Thanks.

(Hell, maybe VT will get lucky and play us there. Maybe they can get 2 points that day.)

Let me get this straight.

You have a PDGA rating, but you feel it is too high. To correct this, you plan to go to Pier and deliberately play like crap to artifically lower your rating for the purpose of gaining a higher handicap.

Does that about sum it up?

["Over the Hill" Bob]

Let me get this straight.

You have a PDGA rating, but you feel it is too high. To correct this, you plan to go to Pier and deliberately play like crap to artifically lower your rating for the purpose of gaining a higher handicap.

Does that about sum it up?

Strategy Scott, strategy! :wink2:

Bob

[emmarose]

Let me get this straight.

You have a PDGA rating, but you feel it is too high. To correct this, you plan to go to Pier and deliberately play like crap to artifically lower your rating for the purpose of gaining a higher handicap.

Does that about sum it up?

kinda makes ya feel icky, huh?

i've just been dying to say something in this thread... finally couldn't help myself...

... it also makes one wonder sometimes if some of these people even like to play golf... like, everyone pushes the idea that it's all about having fun in crappy weather with awesome people... and truly it does have that potential... but geez... i mean, come on... don't freaking play if you don't want to...

sorry. i'll try to butt out from now on... it was just so tempting... and scandalous...

[George A.]

Wow Sam took you way to long...lol..

[jevon]

kinda makes ya feel icky, huh?

i've just been dying to say something in this thread... finally couldn't help myself...

... it also makes one wonder sometimes if some of these people even like to play golf... like, everyone pushes the idea that it's all about having fun in crappy weather with awesome people... and truly it does have that potential... but geez... i mean, come on... don't freaking play if you don't want to...

sorry. i'll try to butt out from now on... it was just so tempting... and scandalous...

We're not all like Wes. I happened to shoot my personal best at Pier during prelims a year or two ago. Sam on the other hand is a bagger.

[Susie Sunshine]

Semi- apology semi-accepted. :kissflowers:

I'm going outside to soak up some more of that Milo sunshine. :rockon:

[Sausage Fingers]

I am working many extra hours because my public radio station is in the middle of its 10-day fundraising drive. We have to make nearly half of everybody's salary and the money it takes to keep us on the air. Only in public radio is the business model to give the product away for free and then ask people to give us some money if they want it to continue. :headbang:

Thanks Susie, for your help but the rules get tweaked each and every year a little so the 2008 rules are a little outdated. Last year's rules can be found on the Yahoo group site in last year's folders.

And one of the rules Wes wanted to know about HAS been changed since then. When we started out the PDGA didn't have so many ratings updates through the winter, so we would reset the current PDGA member's ratings when the new ratings would come out. (another good reason to be a current PDGA member:trophy:) But the non-current/non-members whined and cried about it too much so we changed that rule.

In the past we had a much greater problem with ratings inflation during the season, nearly all players finished the season with ratings 40-60 points above their PDGA ratings. So it was an advantage to get to reset your rating every year. It still is an advantage, but we only do that to start the season this year so the PDGA rating you have on 10/8/11 is what you will start with.

And yes, this is a ratings-based handicapped league, so yes, there is some strategy involved. I am sorry if that bothers some people. We are not playing an Open-type competition, we do not have to take each and every throw we make all season long so seriously. Not everything in life is part of the battle to be Oregon's Pro Woman champion Emma... There is plenty of time to play hard and compete during the season ahead.

I plan to be drunk....errrrr have a good time during the prelims and have a good time playing disc golf with my friends where I do not care how I shoot. It is funny how sometimes you actually shoot better when there is no pressure. :jumpspin:

So to specifically answer Wes' question: Current PDGA members start with their ratings from 10/8 and then average that with all of the rounds that they shoot during the prelims. What we will be changing this year, as soon as I can get the formula right, is to limit the effect that playing below your rating has on your rating. Your rating will go down half as fast as it will go up.

So if your PDGA rating is 950 and you shoot 3 prelim rounds of 975, 950 and 925 your rating will be the average of 950, 975, 950 & 937.5 for a rating of 953. Last year your rating would have been 950.

So I encourage all OTDG players to come on out and have some fun rounds to start the TDG season off right. You can play up to 2 rated rounds each day for 4 total rounds if you'd like. The more people who play, the better the ratings will be for the players with no ratings to start with.

I will try to get all of the stuff ready for TDG, but it really must wait until next week due to my time constraints at work. Thanks for your understanding.:cheers:

:pirate:

[Celeste]

I plan to be drunk....errrrr have a good time during the prelims and have a good time playing disc golf with my friends where I do not care how I shoot. It is funny how sometimes you actually shoot better when there is no pressure. :jumpspin:



I am familiar with this concept. Two pre round beers. I call it Tiger Vision. :cheers:

[Caveman]

I shot my personal best at Pier 2 years in a row during the pre-lims. I'm not too good at this strategery thing.

We're not all like Wes. I happened to shoot my personal best at Pier during prelims a year or two ago. Sam on the other hand is a bagger.

[emmarose]

And yes, this is a ratings-based handicapped league, so yes, there is some strategy involved. I am sorry if that bothers some people. We are not playing an Open-type competition, we do not have to take each and every throw we make all season long so seriously. Not everything in life is part of the battle to be Oregon's Pro Woman champion Emma... There is plenty of time to play hard and compete during the season ahead.

I plan to be drunk....errrrr have a good time during the prelims and have a good time playing disc golf with my friends where I do not care how I shoot. It is funny how sometimes you actually shoot better when there is no pressure. :jumpspin:

:pirate:

... my comment was based on wes's attitude, not the strategy, which as you may remember, we came to an understanding about during the scrabble analogy... i guess by "some people" what i really meant was "wes hansen"...

also, i am trying very hard to love how grumpy you are (because i do, i really do, jordan)... but dude, that dig about the championships? that hurts my feelings. that win is the coolest thing i have ever done, i have never worked so hard for anything in my life... i've never been so good at anything in my life... and i would appreciate people not making me feel bad about it.

... and, i'm sure already that i'm going to regret posting this... but, well... to quote the fridge magnet my hippie mama gave me, "speak your mind, even if your voice shakes"...

[Wes Hansen]

Let me get this straight.

You have a PDGA rating, but you feel it is too high. To correct this, you plan to go to Pier and deliberately play like crap to artifically lower your rating for the purpose of gaining a higher handicap.

Does that about sum it up?

"Artificially" Scott. I thought someone with your ego would at least take the time to spell correctly when trying to belittle someone.

Actually- NO Scott and Emma. I guess reading for comprehension isn't your strong suits. More than once I stated I play Pier poorly, NOT I PLAN to play Pier poorly. When I play Pier, such as in NAAC, my rating plummets. You could check my ratings at Pier this year if you continue to be confused. But if you make stuff up in your head it probably makes it easier to turn a legitimate question into an excuse to give snide responses. Way to chime in without any actual thought process first.

The suggestion of sandbagging in my case is pretty funny. My view is you have to be a good player in order to sandbag. Or perhaps I'm on a 12 year master plan culminating in going into TDG with a low rating! Got ya!

I'm sure there were other pearls of wisdom in the responses, but I have the folks I find annoying on "ignore."

THANK YOU Jordan for taking the time to answer my question.

[Wes Hansen]

... my comment was based on wes's attitude, not the strategy, which as you may remember, we came to an understanding about during the scrabble analogy... i guess by "some people" what i really meant was "wes hansen"...

also, i am trying very hard to love how grumpy you are (because i do, i really do, jordan)... but dude, that dig about the championships? that hurts my feelings. that win is the coolest thing i have ever done, i have never worked so hard for anything in my life... i've never been so good at anything in my life... and i would appreciate people not making me feel bad about it.

... and, i'm sure already that i'm going to regret posting this... but, well... to quote the fridge magnet my hippie mama gave me, "speak your mind, even if your voice shakes"...

Wes'. No extra "s." Basic English.
But I see that's not your strong subject.

Quitting something and then continuing to complain about it seems more your style.

[emmarose]

Wes'. No extra "s." Basic English.
But I see that's not your strong subject.

Quitting something and then continuing to complain about it seems more your style.

okay, buddy... first off, yes, i do struggle with apostrophes... however, i was an english major... oh, wait, actually a creative writing major so i'll put my damn apostrophes where ever i see fit, thank you very much... and i'm not complaining about team golf, i'm making an observation about your stinky attitude which brings me to question whether you even like disc golf or not!!! and heaven freaking forbid i pop in every now and again on a public forum to comment on a couple posts which you have to admit were rather incendiary... i just think you should check your attitude. and there are other folks out there who should, also... no one ever makes us go play... we never have to golf, it's always that we get to golf...

... and i think you're a cranky pants.

... and i super dig the reality-tv-esqueness of this whole thing...

[Wes Hansen]

okay, buddy... i do struggle with apostrophes..i pop in every now and again on a public forum to comment on a couple posts which you have to admit were rather incendiary....

Really?! Apostrophes AND periods, capitalization, run on sentences, errors in fact and a number of other issues seem to trouble you. It also looks like you've "popped in" over 1200 times! You feel questions are incendiary and indicative of a "stinky attitude?" Reread, once again. The thread started with a QUESTION. However you read something else into it I have no idea. Perhaps you minored in propaganda?

The rest of the posts were just babble from the peanut gallery and not worth giving their childish drivel a response.

And wherever did you get the idea people here don't like golf much? By creative writing it appears you mean making up stuff not based in reality. You're the one who decided not to participate... so I guess you don't like DG.

On a final note... I may not be a very good DGer, but out of the folks who wrote something snide here- I don't see one of you that I couldn't beat on the course 19 out of 20 times! I guess that does leave only your moronic posts to make you feel better. (Not including GA. I thought we were just enjoying a little smack talk earlier. I don't know why you got so upset.)

[Sausage Fingers]

... my comment was based on wes's attitude, not the strategy, which as you may remember, we came to an understanding about during the scrabble analogy... i guess by "some people" what i really meant was "wes hansen"...

also, i am trying very hard to love how grumpy you are (because i do, i really do, jordan)... but dude, that dig about the championships? that hurts my feelings. that win is the coolest thing i have ever done, i have never worked so hard for anything in my life... i've never been so good at anything in my life... and i would appreciate people not making me feel bad about it.

... and, i'm sure already that i'm going to regret posting this... but, well... to quote the fridge magnet my hippie mama gave me, "speak your mind, even if your voice shakes"...

I am very sorry for the uncalled-for grumpiness pointed in your direction. I got nothin but love for you Emma. Your accomplishments this year were amazing and you represent the ORDGC well as champion. You played fantastic and I am sorry to even try to put that in any kind of a bad light. It is incredible how your game has improved recently and to win the title on that killer course was a thing of beauty.

I will strive to make it up to you in the future. I should have been able to make my point without that BS. You keep speaking your mind and calling me out when I screw up like this and maybe I will learn to STFU when I should.

:pirate:

[LegoRules]

I am very sorry for the uncalled-for grumpiness pointed in your direction. I got nothin but love for you Emma. Your accomplishments this year were amazing and you represent the ORDGC well as champion. You played fantastic and I am sorry to even try to put that in any kind of a bad light. It is incredible how your game has improved recently and to win the title on that killer course was a thing of beauty.

I will strive to make it up to you in the future. I should have been able to make my point without that BS. You keep speaking your mind and calling me out when I screw up like this and maybe I will learn to STFU when I should.

:pirate:

Jordan you are a prince and a scholar, and you are one of the things I will miss the most about not playing team this year. :kissflowers:

[TreeLove]

Wow, and I was going to say that it did not seem to me like Jordan had slighted Emma, at least not intentionally, but he sure already said more than I ever could, and more eloquently, too. Good job.

[HarrisonH]

God, I couldn't even bare to read all this nonsense. As my team captain, Wes, can I please ask, publicly, that we just go out there and have fun playing some disc golf, and play with some unity so we can have some shelter from the sh*t weather we'll all be enjoying?

[Denny]

What we will be changing this year, as soon as I can get the formula right, is to limit the effect that playing below your rating has on your rating. Your rating will go down half as fast as it will go up. :rockon:


Watch as Team Skinny plays every stroke of every match to the best of our abilities all season long to win the championship! :trophy:

May the best golfers win :nahnah:

[Denny]

like, everyone pushes the idea that it's all about having fun in crappy weather with awesome people.

Um..... have you seen my teams line up?
That's ALL we plan on doing (well that and kicking everyones asses) :cool2:

Team Golf is what you make it

I don't expect to like everyone who participates.

But it' seems like 99.7% of the people are pretty cool

[Bullseye]

What we will be changing this year, as soon as I can get the formula right, is to limit the effect that playing below your rating has on your rating. Your rating will go down half as fast as it will go up. :rockon:


Watch as Team Skinny plays every stroke of every match to the best of our abilities all season long to win the championship! :trophy:

May the best golfers win :nahnah:

Excellent attitude. I think our failure to address the issue of people intentionally tanking rounds to pad their handicap is a damned shame. Oh well, I guess.

[chris7graham]

TEAM ACE HOLES:trophy:

[Scott]

"Artificially" Scott. I thought someone with your ego would at least take the time to spell correctly when trying to belittle someone.

Actually- NO Scott and Emma. I guess reading for comprehension isn't your strong suits. More than once I stated I play Pier poorly, NOT I PLAN to play Pier poorly. When I play Pier, such as in NAAC, my rating plummets. You could check my ratings at Pier this year if you continue to be confused. But if you make stuff up in your head it probably makes it easier to turn a legitimate question into an excuse to give snide responses. Way to chime in without any actual thought process first.

The suggestion of sandbagging in my case is pretty funny. My view is you have to be a good player in order to sandbag. Or perhaps I'm on a 12 year master plan culminating in going into TDG with a low rating! Got ya!

I'm sure there were other pearls of wisdom in the responses, but I have the folks I find annoying on "ignore."

THANK YOU Jordan for taking the time to answer my question.

Wes,

Thank you so much for pointing out my typo. Your attention to detail clearly proves that you are a much better person than I. :rolleyes2:

It appears that my question really got your panties in a bunch. I feel it was a pretty legitimate question that does not display a lack of reading comprehension.

If I have to I can go to the preliminaries and embarrass myself with more poor rounds at Pier.... but I'd rather skip that debacle.
So I get to go play Pier like shit again for the permanent record. Wonderful. Thanks.


Those two posts seem to indicate that you plan to shoot poorly at Pier. One can assume that you would do so to earn a lower rating.

[Scott]

On a final note... I may not be a very good DGer, but out of the folks who wrote something snide here- I don't see one of you that I couldn't beat on the course 19 out of 20 times!

Even at Pier? :chinscratch:

[emmarose]

... (but it probably won't be :p) that i post in the team golf thread...

i just want to be clear that i don't have a problem with team golf, okay, people? i'm not playing 'cause it's too much of a commitment and i'd like to spend the off season reconnecting with my family (never again will my niece, annabel, have to ask her mother, "mom, why don't you let auntie emma come and play with me anymore?" is your heart breaking right now? 'cause mine sure is)... i did have a ton of fun last year and i think it's a very cool thing full of very cool people who are totally awesome and i like to be around just about all of you... i don't hate team golf! i promise!

... anyway, many moons ago there was some posts that made it seem as though there was a large percentage of folk that were sandbagging... i since have come to the understanding that this is not the case, but at the time was a little bit shocked and disillusioned...

also, i'm a little sensitive when it sounds like people would rather not be golfing and some of the posts sounded like that... and i just feel like, well, why bother then? just don't golf if you don't even like it...

so, i hope we're cool, people and i'll do my best to stop posting in the team golf thread when i'm feeling cranky... it just is so dang tempting, tho... so hard to resist drama...

[Wes Hansen]

Scott-

I was hoping no one would toss any more lines into the thread to see if I'd bite.

(Nice dig on my spelling dig. I really didn't put that much effort into how I was gonna zing you back and that was as good as I could do spur of the moment. You deserve better!)

Hopefully we can both see the humor in your trolling a thread you have nothing to do with to see if you can get my goat. (I remember a day when that was a suspend-able offense young man!) :whistler:

Over and over you keep missing that I play Pier poorly NOT by choice, but because I'm not very good. Again, I encourage you to visit PDGA.com and look at my rated rounds (#19428). Either I really, truly, literally can't play Pier worth a darn, or, and I think this is what you must believe, that I have deliberately played Pier horribly for six PDGA rounds in order to enter TDG with a lower rating. Which seems, and I believe would be, friggin nuts!

And to respond to your other point.... In your case I think I could beat you even at Pier. :nahnah: (<I'm going to try to use that smilie as my "all in fun smack talk" notation). I'd worry more about playing you at Orchard. As the universe expands, do you think the holes there might grow?

So- are we good for now Scott or is there any more to hash over on what I had hoped would be a 2 post thread? I've been asked by HH to knock it off and I really want to, but I'll need you stop fishing, as I find your bait delicious. Me and Emma made up and I got the riff-raff on ignore, so the ball is totally in your court.

Let's go find something to argue with Sam about. On second thought....

[Scott]

Scott-

I was hoping no one would toss any more lines into the thread to see if I'd bite.

(Nice dig on my spelling dig. I really didn't put that much effort into how I was gonna zing you back and that was as good as I could do spur of the moment. You deserve better!)

Hopefully we can both see the humor in your trolling a thread you have nothing to do with to see if you can get my goat. (I remember a day when that was a suspend-able offense young man!) :whistler:

Over and over you keep missing that I play Pier poorly NOT by choice, but because I'm not very good. Again, I encourage you to visit PDGA.com and look at my rated rounds (#19428). Either I really, truly, literally can't play Pier worth a darn, or, and I think this is what you must believe, that I have deliberately played Pier horribly for six PDGA rounds in order to enter TDG with a lower rating. Which seems, and I believe would be, friggin nuts!

And to respond to your other point.... In your case I think I could beat you even at Pier. :nahnah: (<I'm going to try to use that smilie as my "all in fun smack talk" notation). I'd worry more about playing you at Orchard. As the universe expands, do you think the holes there might grow?

So- are we good for now Scott or is there any more to hash over on what I had hoped would be a 2 post thread? I've been asked by HH to knock it off and I really want to, but I'll need you stop fishing, as I find your bait delicious. Me and Emma made up and I got the riff-raff on ignore, so the ball is totally in your court.

Let's go find something to argue with Sam about. On second thought....

Take a look at your comments that I quoted above. They are not prefaced with "..if you go look at all my PDGA rated rounds at Pier...". There was nothing to idicate that your poor rounds would be anything but intentional. I guess I see your point, but I don't really realate to it. I mean, why would you go into a round assuming you're going to do poorly? That is such a defeatist attitude. Hell - everytime I play Milo I go into it with the attitude that I will finally break through and shoot under par. It hasn't happened yet, but I know that if I go into it with your atitude it never will.

Hopefully we can both see the humor in your trolling a thread you have nothing to do with to see if you can get my goat.
I was wondering when someone would throw that lame-ass argument out there. Just because I don't play TDG I'm not allowed in this thread? I'm not allowed an opinion? Believe it or not, I wasn't trolling. I was honestly curious about whether or not someone would purposely play crappy to bring down their rating - a concept that is pretty foreign to me. Sure - I probably wouldn't have said anything had the comment been made by someone else, so I guess I was trolling, a little. :whistler:

And to respond to your other point.... In your case I think I could beat you even at Pier. :nahnah: (<I'm going to try to use that smilie as my "all in fun smack talk" notation). I'd worry more about playing you at Orchard. As the universe expands, do you think the holes there might grow?

I'm not really sure what orifice you're pulling this out of. Is it because I run a weekly at Orchard I don't play anywhere else? Did you even know that other than TT, I only play there about three times a year? I'd be willing to bet that you could beat me at Pier, but 19 out of 20 times as you claimed? I'd be willing to bet no. But we'll never be able to settle that bet because that would mean you'd have to golf with me as much as 19 times. The one time we did golf together you couldn't even make it through the whole round. :laughing:

Hopefully we can both see the humor in your trolling a thread you have nothing to do with to see if you can get my goat. (I remember a day when that was a suspend-able offense young man!) :whistler:
Seriously? I don't think I've come anywhere near your level of stalker.

Let's go find something to argue with Sam about. Now THAT is a suspend-able offense. :biggrin2:



OK, we're good. Or as good as we're gonna get. Mostly because I have better things to do this afternoon.

[TreeLove]

I think our failure to address the issue of people intentionally tanking rounds to pad their handicap is a damned shame. Oh well, I guess.

What we will be changing this year, as soon as I can get the formula right, is to limit the effect that playing below your rating has on your rating. Your rating will go down half as fast as it will go up.

Looks to me like we ARE "addressing the issue of people intentionally tanking rounds to pad their handicap"!!! Now if they tank, they will only get half the benefit!

[George A.]

I say screw it no way to go but up ...meaning that if you have a bad round or two oh well ...try harder next time your rating not going down ...

[TreeLove]

I say screw it no way to go but up ...meaning that if you have a bad round or two oh well ...try harder next time your rating not going down ...

I made that suggestion too, and who knows, maybe next year...???

[George A.]

That's two how many more like that idea ????

[Darr]

That's two how many more like that idea ????

Third!

[Wes Hansen]

I say screw it no way to go but up ...meaning that if you have a bad round or two oh well ...try harder next time your rating not going down ...

Damn George, I like that idea! (With some leeway for those with 10 or fewer rated rounds ever?}

[Susie Sunshine]

Third!

Four!! And Eric says he's got 5 on it (he's not on the internets, by choice). ;)

[AChivers]

People please DO NOT POKE THE BEAR!:mad:

[Stephen.Sines]

or DO POKE THE BURR