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General Scales

August 30th, 2011, 07:05 AM

Depends on your putting style. Spin? Push? A combination of the two?

In my bag at the moment are three different molds of putters in five different plastics.

Yeti Pro Aviar. Thing is money and the first Aviar I've had in my bag in four years.
Zero Line Spike. Thing is super money. Stiff enough to push putt with without feeling like my thumb is going through the top of the disc. Tacky enough to grab a single link and stay in.
Grip Line Spike. Driving putter. I have two at the moment. A new one that stays straight to slight left fade if needed. Beat one that stays straight to right. More ace runs with these then most any of my other discs.
Pro-D Ringer. Wind putter. If everything else is getting batted around when I'm practicing, I know this thing will stay on line. Kinda flies like a brick though. Not a glidey putter.

I've been messing around with a few different putters as well but none that will replace my goto's.

P1 and P2 from Discmania. Seems like an Aviar to me and I really can't tell the difference between the 1 and the 2. They seem like the exact same disc even though they say they haven't different flights. My buddy Brian swears by them and has one of each.
Soft Ion. Thing just want's to keep going and even though the top is soft, the outside rubber is hard. Great looking disc and innovative. Just doesn't do anything better then my other putters so it's not earning a permanent bag spot.
10m Brick. Thing has the appropriate name. Seriously brick like in flight and seems to kill the chains when it hits them. That's if you can get it to the chains in the first place.

Hope any of this helps.

NBdiscgolfer

August 30th, 2011, 07:18 AM

Thanks GS! I will look into those putters you suggested. I am a spin putter and have been looking into a rhyno. Need a good putter for the wind also so I will read up on that Ringer aswell. Thanks again.

dc1

August 30th, 2011, 08:25 AM

Discraft Banger GT's are great spin putt discs

himynameismatt

August 30th, 2011, 08:31 AM

Try a Gateway Putter. They make 4 excellent putters. 3 of their molds are essentially improved versions of the Aviar.

The Wizard is their most stable putter and feels a lot like a KC Pro Aviar because of the big bead.

The Voodoo has a much smaller bead and flies like a beat up Wizard.

The Warlock is essentially a Wizard without the Bead, and flies the least stable out of the three.

They also have a putter called the Magic that's not based off the Aviar and flies really understable.

All Gateway putter fly great in the wind because they're molded gyroscopic-ally, meaning heavier and thicker out on the rim and thinner and lighter on the flightplate. This makes them fly further, more consistent and just all around better than the Aviar.

The MVP Ion essentially takes gyroscopic molding to the next level with their Ion, but why drop $20 on an Ion when you can get Wizards that fly just as well for $10.

Inside the 10M line all putter will essentially fly the same. Find one that you get a comfortable and consistent grip with. Also helps if it doubles as your approach and driving putter as well. I'm a big proponent of carrying only one putter mold.

Oh yeah and about the P1 and P2 since I'm a little bit of a Discmania expert...

The P1 is an Aviar Putt and Approach same mold and everything just rebranded and a different stamp.

The P2 is an Aviar X or Aviar Driver with an added spacer in the mold to give it a little higher shoulder height and with out the bead.

They shouldn't fly similar at all the P1 should be quite understable off the tee while the P2 will be almost to the overstable side of the scale. Both very good putters though.

Jeff Hemmerling

August 30th, 2011, 12:25 PM

RonTheWhip

August 30th, 2011, 12:40 PM

I would try out the Ringer by Discraft. It goes in every time...EVERY time.

Mikk

August 30th, 2011, 12:52 PM

+3 on gateway putters, I have the sss(super stupid soft) wizard. This is a stable putter and works very well, grabs chains and stays in more than falls out.

General Scales

August 30th, 2011, 01:16 PM

I would try out the Ringer by Discraft. It goes in every time...EVERY time.

Yes they do. Very good for spin putts. And very good for approaches if you have some power to your drive.

That's why the ever elusive Z ones are so wonderful....:whistler:

The only other suggestion I have for a putter is a Focus by Discraft. They are like a Challenger/Wizard cross and have enough stability to be driven and putted with in a head wind. They also come in a hard and soft version.

NBdiscgolfer

August 30th, 2011, 05:18 PM

Right on! Thanks for all the input everyone. I will just have to head down to Mandos and try a bunch of different ones and see what feels right. Atleast i have a little direction now. Take care and thanks again!

Timber

August 30th, 2011, 06:18 PM

I was all about the Wizard/Voodoo combo for something like three years (and they are awesome), but then I got my hands on a Vibram Ridge and a Summit. Never looked back.

JMan

August 30th, 2011, 07:46 PM

luckily putters are in more affordable base plastics, so buy and try a few. if they work, cool. if not pass them on, try a few others.

snap7times

August 31st, 2011, 06:39 AM

wizard ss and focus

REDFIVE

August 31st, 2011, 07:25 AM

A putter is a putter is a putter. It is just you getting used to the feel and the flight. Go to a shop and hold a bunch of them. If it feels right it probably is. Get three of them in the same weight and color. Learn them love them. If it doesn't work, try again.

Flatroc

August 31st, 2011, 08:12 AM

I would try out the Ringer by Discraft. It goes in every time...EVERY time.

Good one!
Eventually my Aviar by Innova, goes in EVERY time also. :cheers:

captain jack

August 31st, 2011, 10:11 AM

Putters are a very personal thing.
Everybody likes something different.
Soft or hard, sticky or slick, bead or no bead.
Some putters are better for driving, some are just for inside the circle.

Luckily , there are many different putters that cover all of the options.

You can read page after page of glowing praise for Gateway putters, like Wizards, and Magics, but, if it doesnt feel good in your hand you won't throw well with it. Never rely on internet advice.

Going to Tom and Marys to try some different putters is your best idea.
Also, go to Chainbangerz in Burien, Keith has more test putters there, a great big stack, and you can try a whole bunch, on a test basket with actual chains. :biggrin2:
You should be able to find something you like between the two stores.

Me, I'm a Vibram guy. I like that thier discs are rubber, not plastic, and they change very little over thier lifetime.
I prefer thier overstable putter, the VP, for inside the circle, and thier stable putter, the Ridge, for driving and approach duties.

NBdiscgolfer

September 1st, 2011, 06:03 AM

Thanks Captain jack. I still have not been to the chainbangerz shop yet maybe I will ty to make it down that way.

Rakoz

September 7th, 2011, 08:32 AM

I have a 4 year old SSS (aka wet towel putter) Wizard that people constantly try to buy off of me, a Wizard soft, and a brand new Wizard SSS with the rainbow Led Zepplin Stamp. I also carry around 2 Candy Rhinos for driving and windy days (had each one for over 4 years).

I highly recommend both but the best advice for putting putters: do what feels good and then do what works and then find the middle ground.

General Scales

September 7th, 2011, 09:24 AM

I highly recommend both but the best advice for putting putters: do what feels good and then do what works and then find the middle ground.

This is the best advice. Putters I went through before hitting my core group.

Soft APX
Challenger (Soft, Hard and FLX)
Wizard (all plastic blends)
Voodoo (Soft)
Magnet (Hard and Soft)
Focus (Hard and Soft)
Pure (Zero line)
Zone (ESP)
Aviar (in every form and plastic till the Yeti's came out)
Polecat
Birdie
Aero
Banger GT (ESP)

They still lay in a tub to this day, one day I'll give them an honorable death.

M.Parker

September 7th, 2011, 05:18 PM

has anybody tried the wizard in the evolution plastic? like? dislike? im currently using an ss wiz and sss wiz and like them both.

Sean Johnson

September 7th, 2011, 07:47 PM

has anybody tried the wizard in the evolution plastic? like? dislike? im currently using an ss wiz and sss wiz and like them both.

The ones that I have thrown were super grippy and fairly durable. I found them to be a little shorter with a lot less glide. They're pretty beefy, but I've thrown some S Wizards that started out more overstable than a E or HPP. Great woods disc, and is also very good in the wind (for a putter).

M.Parker

September 7th, 2011, 08:25 PM

The ones that I have thrown were super grippy and fairly durable. I found them to be a little shorter with a lot less glide. They're pretty beefy, but I've thrown some S Wizards that started out more overstable than a E or HPP. Great woods disc, and is also very good in the wind (for a putter).
cheers sean. i guess im gonna have to get a new putter:cheers:

jdinteg

September 7th, 2011, 09:19 PM

cheers sean. i guess im gonna have to get a new putter:cheers:

I found the Warlock to be my favorite in Gateway's SSS plastic. I bought six of them in the same color and weight, and looking for 4-more when I can for putting practice. Then I numbered them so I can track flight changes. This has completely changed my putting game. I cannot drive worth a darn, but I now nail my putts regularly.
I also have putt with an E wizard, and E warlock. I like the E plastic for an upshot disc, it feels like a higher quality Star plastic to me. But the E plastic Wizard and Warlock stays at home most of the time. They just don't fly or feel the same to me as the SSS. In addition they don't seem to replace my Aviar and Rhyno for upshot discs.
I would agree with everyone else that it is all about feel, and comfort. Find a putter you like (preferably easy to get a hold of), buy at least 5 of them once your sure you like it in the same plastic, mold, and weight (Thank you Emma Rose for the best putting advise ever), and putt hundreds of times with the putter you know in all conditions, elevations, and positions. When you need the shot it will be there in your muscle memory.

matt

October 21st, 2012, 03:08 PM

here goes nothing........

the wife and I both have been using DX175 XD+ putters
and we need something a little slower, softer, and grabbier.

so I just ordered 8 sss 174 magic from marshall st. (they were $4.99 on clearance)

time for some putting practice, as we both need more help

jdinteg

October 21st, 2012, 07:59 PM

Stephen.Sines

October 22nd, 2012, 07:40 AM

I would try out the Ringer by Discraft. It goes in every time...EVERY time.

Sex Panther quote D?

NB,
my money is on D Ringers, Lat Sinus, Discmania P2, or another Aviar - JK (mostly because its getting to winter)

Those are all great neutral to stable Putters for a moderate speed spin putt.
Personally, I dig the ringer and P2

hope this helps your endevours :)

Stephen.Sines

October 22nd, 2012, 07:43 AM

Yes they do. Very good for spin putts. And very good for approaches if you have some power to your drive.

That's why the ever elusive Z ones are so wonderful....:whistler:

The only other suggestion I have for a putter is a Focus by Discraft. They are like a Challenger/Wizard cross and have enough stability to be driven and putted with in a head wind. They also come in a hard and soft version.

I always forget about the focus... and I have been on the edge of putting a few in the bag... and I think I have the room for it.

Scales, I think its time we harp on dion for more z ringers... and we need to get them in White. or Ti plastic... lol

Btw that Sparkle force I got from you is EXTRA awesome that was one of the best pickups i have had in a while. :chug:

General Scales

October 22nd, 2012, 09:25 AM

I always forget about the focus... and I have been on the edge of putting a few in the bag... and I think I have the room for it.

Scales, I think its time we harp on dion for more z ringers... and we need to get them in White. or Ti plastic... lol

Btw that Sparkle force I got from you is EXTRA awesome that was one of the best pickups i have had in a while. :chug:

I totally agree! Discraft posted something on Facebook awhile back about the Ringer and I harped on them for a premium plastic version. Which started a revolution of people wanting them in at least Z or ESP. A Ti Ringer would be too much awesome for my brain to handle! It's Discraft's equivalent of a Rhyno yet they refuse to make it in premium plastic. It's very frustrating.

Glad that you like that Force :biggrin2:. I have a 167 gram one laying around that is just as overstable as that one I sold you. Those First Run Player's Cups are the most overstable run of any Force I've ever thrown. Even more overstable then the legendary pop top Pink Z's that everyone clamors for.

On a related putter note, Tomas at Latitude has promised that Goldline Spikes will be made this winter. He also stated that they had never tried to make a Sinus in a premium plastic. It was stated that the next time they mold up some Sinus's, they will mold up some Opto ones. That would be AWESOME! Then I would just have to have Premium Ringers and Goldline Spikes and I'd be the happiest disc golfer in all the land!

Stephen.Sines

October 22nd, 2012, 10:37 AM

I totally agree! Discraft posted something on Facebook awhile back about the Ringer and I harped on them for a premium plastic version. Which started a revolution of people wanting them in at least Z or ESP. A Ti Ringer would be too much awesome for my brain to handle! It's Discraft's equivalent of a Rhyno yet they refuse to make it in premium plastic. It's very frustrating.

Glad that you like that Force :biggrin2:. I have a 167 gram one laying around that is just as overstable as that one I sold you. Those First Run Player's Cups are the most overstable run of any Force I've ever thrown. Even more overstable then the legendary pop top Pink Z's that everyone clamors for.

On a related putter note, Tomas at Latitude has promised that Goldline Spikes will be made this winter. He also stated that they had never tried to make a Sinus in a premium plastic. It was stated that the next time they mold up some Sinus's, they will mold up some Opto ones. That would be AWESOME! Then I would just have to have Premium Ringers and Goldline Spikes and I'd be the happiest disc golfer in all the land!

I would throw a gold sinus in a heartbeat and not only that it would be a hair fast than the zone. :yay:
I may be interested in that 167 force if you are willing to barter.
I'll PM

Btw Ringers in x plastic would be extra rad. I like mine a little gummy/glidey

Stephen.Sines

October 22nd, 2012, 10:40 AM

I like the spike over the XD because of their added bulk
good putter.

jdinteg

October 22nd, 2012, 11:23 AM

I like the spike over the XD because of their added bulk
good putter.

Yes, that would be nice. Goldline: Spike, Pure, and Sinus

pdxdiscer

October 22nd, 2012, 09:54 PM

after years putting the hard top KCP Aviars, i picked up a Magic
pretty grippy, maybe Evo plastic?
it putts great, a soft touch, forgiving of me hitting only a link
with a profile a lot like my aviars
It helped my inside 30' game

prettyboyfloyd

October 23rd, 2012, 08:39 AM

My main putter (spinning inside the circle): classic aviar

Push putting up/down hills or any other basket position where missing would lead to a longer putt:

SSS warlock, because it drops quick

R-Pro Pig for wind and hyzer approach shots (fat and overstable)

Champ aviar for driving

As has been said previously: Putters and putting in general is a very personal thing and very much about positive mental vibes. If the putter feels good in your hand and you feel good about it, you will make more putts (as long as your not a total newbie). I've gone from mainly spinning to pushing and back to spinning, because that's what feels right for me. I know when I grab my Aviar, go through my affirmation (I say "Trust it" to myself), that I will crack chains.

Most of us who have played a while will make putt after putt while practicing. But during a round, when you get that 15-20ft for birdie/par/bogie, you have to WANT to have the opportunity to make that shot. Good putters love putting. Since I putted like crap at the Calapooia Classic, I've got all the above mental advice from "Golf is Not a Game of Perfect", a book about the mental side of golf (made for ball golf, but EVERYTHING can be applied to disc golf as well). I'm now putting so much better, and even making longer ones. I highly recommend that book to anyone.