Paying out in PRO at events.

[DoubleDees]

I'm wondering how other Pro's feel about receiving checks at events. I know everyone Iv'e spoken with does NOT like this. I really don't care what Am's have to say.

Personally I will not be accepting checks for my payouts. This is my personal choice and hope that Tournament Director's will respect my decision.

[Sean Phillips]

It's a bit of a hassle but I think it's going to become the norm as the sport grows.

The other sports I've dabbled in pay out via check as well.

You can sign your check off to me next time. I'll give you $.25 on the dollar :biggrin2:

[General Scales]

Well, having done some MMA fights, I can tell you it's a bitch when you get a check and then there is no money for you when you try to cash it. Shady but true. I can see a lot of people getting screwed by some less than honest TD'S. Nothing worse than busting your hump to do well to get nothing in return but a piece of paper that has a dollar amount and a signature.

I can see it going to this type of thing for bigger events (a-tiers and NT's). I'd pretty skeptical to join an B-Tier or lower that promised payout through checks.

[Rideout]

I haven’t paid out cash for a long time and have no intention of starting back up. The liability of holding that much cash on game day is highly unnecessary. If I have it on me, I am typically willing to write a check for $50 less than pay out and have the player sign for receiving the $50 in cash.

You know what to expect from me.

Ed, I like having you at my events and I don’t mind paying you when you shoot well. I hope you come to my events and accept a check if you’re in the money.

Mike Rideout

[Rideout]

All my checks clear - every one of them.

When Kenny Clark lost his check three weeks after the FSO in 2010, he was able to get another one in the mail (less the $30 cancelled check fee).

[REDFIVE]

There are ATMs everywhere. I would prefer to have cash in hand but understand how it is to hold that much cash and be responsible for it. I ran a couple doubles event last year and only had near $700 on hand but it still made me nervous to hold that much cash that didn't belong to me. As long as I get paid it works for me.

[DoubleDees]

You wont be missing me Mike. Its just a hassle to come home without eating :( The other problem is the 5$ Wells Fargo charges you for cashing a check... Do we really need to pay wells Fargo 5(X$) where X is the number of checks written? I do understand the carrying of a large amount of cash. Perhaps paying most out in checks with a little cash would work in the players favor.

[Rideout]

Right on Ed. Shoot me a reminder email the week before heading over to an event I'm running and I'll be prepared to work with you.

[Bullseye]

I'm wondering how other Pro's feel about receiving checks at events. I know everyone Iv'e spoken with does NOT like this. I really don't care what Am's have to say.

Personally I will not be accepting checks for my payouts. This is my personal choice and hope that Tournament Director's will respect my decision.


As a "pro" player I will admit that it is always nice to receive cash for my payout, but I sure as hell won't turn down a check. Seriously, is it really THAT hard to cash a check?

As a TD I will say that I do not intend to pay in cash ever again. Why? Aside from the obvious risk of carrying an entire events worth of cash around with you, it's also because it is much easier to finish up the paperwork, accounting and reports using a check record... particularly if you're running events for a club or organization.

Honestly, what makes you think you have any choice in this matter? Do you plan on calling TDs ahead of time to find out how they are paying out? I suspect selecting where you play is about the only possible way you will have any control whatsoever. With that said, I also don't think you will be playing any bigger tournaments with your those expectations.

This game is growing by leaps and bounds, and the days of signing up on the trunk of a car on the day of the event and getting paid out in cash at the end of the day are about done. You're a solid player... I hope you eventually choose to grow with the sport.

[Matt B.]

You wont be missing me Mike. Its just a hassle to come home without eating :( The other problem is the 5$ Wells Fargo charges you for cashing a check... Do we really need to pay wells Fargo 5(X$) where X is the number of checks written? I do understand the carrying of a large amount of cash. Perhaps paying most out in checks with a little cash would work in the players favor.

Getting a check hasn't and wouldn't bother me, in fact I expect it. Asking a TD to have $1000 or more in cash on hand is problematic to say the least. But I personally have a bank and a checking account and carry enough cash with me to get through a day with gas and food. Obviously that's not the case for everyone but I think it's the case for the huge majority.

It's 2011, not 1990. Times have changed.

[Matt B.]

I can see it going to this type of thing for bigger events (a-tiers and NT's). I'd pretty skeptical to join an B-Tier or lower that promised payout through checks.

Seriously? The TD's running the B-tiers and lower you attend are not people you know that have been around for awhile? It's usually not an issue for these smaller $ tournaments to have the cash on hand... but still, if I thought the TD's were going to be running a check kiting scheme I really don't think I'd be signing up in the first place.

[Sean Phillips]

You wont be missing me Mike. Its just a hassle to come home without eating :( The other problem is the 5$ Wells Fargo charges you for cashing a check... Do we really need to pay wells Fargo 5(X$) where X is the number of checks written? I do understand the carrying of a large amount of cash. Perhaps paying most out in checks with a little cash would work in the players favor.

There isn't any fee if you go to your bank that you bank with. I'm with bank of america, i deposit into their ATM, no fee.

[Jim J]

It's a bit sweeter to get cash but I think it's easier for a club to write checks.

As a former treasurer I know that having a shoebox full of cash at a tournament is a risk and clubs have had tourney cash go missing. By getting the cash off-site and deposited (or at least having it under one person's control) you take that worry off the table. Plus, it's nice having a record of who received what, and if there ever was an IRS audit (highly unlikely) you can show where the money went.

On occasion players haven't cashed their checks and after a few years or so, that money goes back to the club like uncashed script.

I have also cashed checks from players after the tournament if they asked.

Like Hagerty said, get used to checks.

[CMC206]

What a bad problem to have.... Unbelievable.

[General Scales]

Seriously? The TD's running the B-tiers and lower you attend are not people you know that have been around for awhile? It's usually not an issue for these smaller $ tournaments to have the cash on hand... but still, if I thought the TD's were going to be running a check kiting scheme I really don't think I'd be signing up in the first place.

I have never had to deal with it. More along the line of not wanting to deal with it if the situation arose. Perhaps my wording was a bit off. As it is on a normal basis:shocked:.

In the end, I could care less if I get paid in cash or check. Money is money after all. I have had a lot of bad experiences in checks that were supposed to clear. Makes me a little nervous, thats all. Not to imply anybody in the northwest would be shady enough to purposely pass bad checks to players. Were pretty strong up here.

[mcbentz]

How about direct deposit? Wait, that wouldnt work.....only 30% of disc golfers have bank accounts.

[Scott]

only 30% of disc golfers have bank accounts.

Where did you pull that fact from? :chinscratch:

[mcbentz]

Where did you pull that fact from? :chinscratch:

It's simple. Since only 40% of disc golfer have steady jobs I kinda figure atleast the majority would have bank accounts...

[Scott]

Since only 40% of disc golfer have steady jobs.

And which orifice did you pull this fact out of?

[mcbentz]

And which orifice did you pull this fact out of?

My Googhole..

[The Ombudsman]

Where did you pull that fact from? :chinscratch:

The same source that told him pot smokers are the minority in disc golf

[scottycb1]

With all the change in the last few years about pay outs and such and how big everything has got, what B tier has TD's having to carry only $1000 in cash to pay out. Between Open, Pro Masters, Open Women and any other cash division we are talking thousands of dollars a TD would have to carry. Cash is nice, but how many serious pro's dont just put that in the bank to help cover the next online payment we have to make for a tournament anyways.

Checks are the way it has to be, and if you are worried about bad checks from TD's (which are mostly club rep's now) then dont play.

[Altophish]

Right on Ed. Shoot me a reminder email the week before heading over to an event I'm running and I'll be prepared to work with you.

I can understand a brother wanting cash and all but I would think this one through before I broke out my wallet. You know as well as I do that if you give cash to one guy you'll have the rest of the pro's standing around saying "What about me? I'd prefer cash too!"

It's up to you of course but that might be a level of headache you don't need.:bricks:

[Sam]

I agree with Jeromie. If any pro says "cash as I don't accept checks", my response would be, "well if you are sure you want to give me your money like that... OK. Have a nice day. Or I can write you this check and you can shut the f*ck up, already, yeah?"

Wow...

[CMC206]

ND takes a check....

http://www.pdga.com/2011-kansas-city-wide-open-winners

[LJ Jubner]

If a player wants to accept only cash then they need to provide
Name,
address,
phone
and
Social Security or Tax ID number.

[Scott]

ND takes a check....

http://www.pdga.com/2011-kansas-city-wide-open-winners

Good luck getting that thing into an ATM.

[NWDiscer]

The same source that told him pot smokers are the minority in disc golf



:cheers: :laughing: :D

[Ultraman]

This topic is based on the assumption that the individual with the complaint WILL cash at an event. Rather pompous to demand a specific form of payment for future events.

Question, how do you pay for registration of a tournament? Cash, check, online registration? What would you do if a TD only took a check and you don't have a checking account?

Sounds like this particular TD is flexible and willing to work with your situation, which is commendable.

You better not play Worlds because WHEN you cash, the PDGA writes you a check. Goes for Aces too!

[JMittl]

Just an FYI, the Beaver State Fling will be paying out in checks and checks only. Just in case anyone needs to reconsider playing the BSF...

[Mr. Anderson]

If a player wants to accept only cash then they need to provide
Name,
address,
phone
and
Social Security or Tax ID number.

And if you cash big and its over $600 (i believe) you get to fill out an IRS form!!! I would gladly do this for a big pay out... but it hasn't happened.... yet.

[Sam]

Just an FYI, the Beaver State Fling will be paying out in checks and checks only. Just in case anyone needs to reconsider playing the BSF...

Awesome. I knew you guys were going to shirk the rules and give AMs money this year. I'll take a giant sized check, please. :)

[Bullseye]

Awesome. I knew you guys were going to shirk the rules and give AMs money this year. I'll take a giant sized check, please. :)

Reminder: Thread Title: Paying out in PRO at events.

Oh wait... Now I get it... Sam was actually telling us that he was moving up to Pro Masters.

Damn Sam, I'm so proud of you now!

Let me go change your division right now.

[JMittl]

Reminder: Thread Title: Paying out in PRO at events.

Oh wait... Now I get it... Sam was actually telling us that he was moving up to Pro Masters.

Damn Sam, I'm so proud of you now!

Let me go change your division right now.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam
"Dammit... I hate being wrong and it seems to happen so very often... "


Yep, still the same Sam...

["Over the Hill" Bob]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam
"Dammit... I hate being wrong and it seems to happen so very often... "


Yep, still the same Sam...

Thank goodness no one said, "I'll start paying cash when hell freezes over, or Sam admits he's wrong". :laughing:

Bob:biggrin2:

[snap7times]

Congratulations Sam...

[Sam]

:laughing:

I bow to the two hardest working TDs I know. Beers in your future. :cheers:

[TreeLove]

Sam was actually telling us that he was moving up to Pro Masters.

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