Jim J
May 23rd, 2011, 11:42 AM
I got one wrong according the PDGA. But according to me, they got it wrong.
Here you go:
Question 9: Lost Disc Found After Time Expires
A competitor cannot locate his tee shot. The rest of the group joins in the search and a group member declares 'Time starts now'. Three minutes and thirteen seconds later the disc is found and they haven't given him a new lie. What is the ruling?
A) At 3 minutes, his disc was officially lost; he plays from the spot where his disc was found, one throw penalty.
B) At 3 minutes the disc was officially lost, he re-tees or proceeds to a drop zone if designated with a one throw penalty.
C) At 2 minutes his disc was officially lost, he plays from the last seen location of the disc, one throw penalty.
D) At 3 minutes his disc was officially lost, he plays from the spot where his disc was found, no penalty.
E) He plays from where his disc was found, no penalty.
Your Answer: E
Correct Answer: B
Feedback: At 3 minutes the disc is lost and as it is his tee-shot he must re-tee and receive a one throw penalty. (803.11 B)
I stand by my answer: No penalty.
803.11 says "Two players or an official must note when the timing of three minutes begins." In the question above only one "group member" declares that the three minutes starts. Nothing about the two players or an official who are the only ones authorized to start the three-minute clock.
So if you take this test watch out! The PDGA believes that "a group member" is the same as "two players or an official."
Other than that, I thought it was a good and fair test that forced me to dig out the rule book.
BTW, in an actual tournament, I'd get the whole group to concur when the three minutes starts, not have it start when one person "declares" it, which may or may not be heard by others in the group.
Here you go:
Question 9: Lost Disc Found After Time Expires
A competitor cannot locate his tee shot. The rest of the group joins in the search and a group member declares 'Time starts now'. Three minutes and thirteen seconds later the disc is found and they haven't given him a new lie. What is the ruling?
A) At 3 minutes, his disc was officially lost; he plays from the spot where his disc was found, one throw penalty.
B) At 3 minutes the disc was officially lost, he re-tees or proceeds to a drop zone if designated with a one throw penalty.
C) At 2 minutes his disc was officially lost, he plays from the last seen location of the disc, one throw penalty.
D) At 3 minutes his disc was officially lost, he plays from the spot where his disc was found, no penalty.
E) He plays from where his disc was found, no penalty.
Your Answer: E
Correct Answer: B
Feedback: At 3 minutes the disc is lost and as it is his tee-shot he must re-tee and receive a one throw penalty. (803.11 B)
I stand by my answer: No penalty.
803.11 says "Two players or an official must note when the timing of three minutes begins." In the question above only one "group member" declares that the three minutes starts. Nothing about the two players or an official who are the only ones authorized to start the three-minute clock.
So if you take this test watch out! The PDGA believes that "a group member" is the same as "two players or an official."
Other than that, I thought it was a good and fair test that forced me to dig out the rule book.
BTW, in an actual tournament, I'd get the whole group to concur when the three minutes starts, not have it start when one person "declares" it, which may or may not be heard by others in the group.