erosion issues at work

[psychodwarf]

i am currently at work on the hill side of hole #4 there is right now at this time a bigger landing spot UNDER the basket and when i get done you should not have to worry about your disc rolling down the hillside all the way.

[Yoduh]

i am currently at work on the hill side of hole #4 there is right now at this time a bigger landing spot UNDER the basket and when i get done you should not have to worry about your disc rolling down the hillside all the way.

How far down are you going to place the retainer? I would recommend 20 feet. That way you still have to make a putt if you don't throw an accurate shot. Is hole 4 close while you work on it? Would make sense.

[psychodwarf]

How far down are you going to place the retainer? I would recommend 20 feet. That way you still have to make a putt if you don't throw an accurate shot. Is hole 4 close while you work on it? Would make sense. it would make sense but then i would not get good player input .. as for the retainer wall that will be a series of them going all the way down the hill this is the only safe way to save the hole and the hilside

[Yoduh]

it would make sense but then i would not get good player input .. as for the retainer wall that will be a series of them going all the way down the hill this is the only safe way to save the hole and the hilside

You would not get good player input? By good player input you are talking about what bad players wouldn't say good things because their putt only rolled 20 feet down the hill instead of all the way down:rolleyes2:

[psychodwarf]

i could use some help with moving some dirt if anyone would care to help .

[Sean Johnson]

When?

[psychodwarf]

When?

every day till LCO still need some more rebar stakes for keeping the logs in place ,, thanks everyone

[psychodwarf]

IF anyone would like to help out on a work party at downriver i will be down at hole #4 for most of the day friday (6th) and all most all of sat(7th). working on getting some trails and erosion work done before the summer hits and it will be almost impossible to get things done .. thank you

[Gordy #21004]

The putting area at #4 has been cleared out and the heavy materials for its improvement are stored at the base on the downhill side. We're looking to get some input and involvement from C Re before taking any further action, especially with regard to the high side of the fairway.
The branches have been removed from the river side of hole 8 and moved inland. A more substantial footing is needed there. The branches would be 'OK' if it were only trail maintenance but with the proximity to the green it only creates a hazard. There are some natural materials stored on the approach end of the green which may be suitable for a curb along the edge of the green.
I will be at the work party today to help with what Jon has to suggest and to help with setting up a temporary hole 6 for use in the LCO.:
Both Bob and Jon are taking a hard look at the hole 1-hole11 juxtaposition and there may be some movement there for the tournament as well. :cheers:

[Yoduh]

An easy fix is to add an o.b. line between 6 and 9using the trees just to the left of the fairway of 6. When I am on the tee of 9 I throw my most stable boss 80% not worrying about hyzering into 6's fairway.. Adding ob would require players to actually control their drives. As far as 11 and 1 goes, I would putt in a new pin on hole 1 over by the rocks. I would have the pros play the long tee on on 11 and ams play the shorter tee on 11 because I think its safer to be able to see the shots coming in.

[jshrack]

I will be at the work party today to help with what Jon has to suggest and to help with setting up a temporary hole 6 for use in the LCO.:



Just wondering what the problem with #6 is... seems we have problems all over the course but I have never heard complaints about #6.

What is the issue with this hole?

[jshrack]

An easy fix is to add an o.b. line between 6 and 9using the trees just to the left of the fairway of 6. When I am on the tee of 9 I throw my most stable boss 80% not worrying about hyzering into 6's fairway.. Adding ob would require players to actually control their drives.

Not too many people can pull off a par there with a roc, most people try to throw a driver that distance... Won't this increase the number of discs going down the bank toward the river?

This suggests that we are making a change that will increase the erosion potential along a 100 yard length of the river. Greatly increasing our potential negative impact.

I still don't understand the up side though, maybe I am missing something.

[Burge]

The issue is not drives from the teepad, but rather, upshots that travel wide to the left and land at the #6 tee.

[jshrack]

The issue is not drives from the teepad, but rather, upshots that travel wide to the left and land at the #6 tee.

So the club is moving the pad forward?
Keep it out of the firing line for both #4 and #9?
I can understand that.

We have a ton of area to extend #6 anyway.

You must admit though, we are watering down the course by changing one hole at a time without a plan.
I am not trying to complain, please do consider a master plan for DR though. We could all benefit from it.

[Yoduh]

The issue is not drives from the teepad, but rather, upshots that travel wide to the left and land at the #6 tee.

Yeah I know. If you put o.b. between the two holes you effectively change the holes. Also I would add a mando to the right of the tree on hole 6. Make it a must righty hyzer since that's pretty much the opposite on hole 2

[Gordy #21004]

For hole #1 there will be a temporary pin back in the gap toward the rocks which will make the hole a little longer and a little straighter but does not substantially alter the hole. The objective is to provide more spacing between play on #1 and #11. I do suspect the pad for #11 will be removed from the pavement or placed in the original pavement (rec, am) position. Jon and Bob are working that out.
For hole #6 there has been a temporary pad staked out about 88' in front of the existing pad. Also the area behind the 6th pin has been cleared of dead and down sticks and duff. Several of the leaning trees have been returned to an up right posture in order to open up the playing surface. The pin is about 85' deeper than the current position in a flat grassy area. The high righty hyzer will probably still be the shot of choice from the tee.
The other adjustments in the #7, #8,#9 area will include marking the 7th tee area as OB for shots in play on hole#8. For hole #8 and #9 the OB will be marked at the top of the slope and not at water's edge. The OB line will return to water's edge as you approach #9
These modifications are for the event only. The Club is not obliged to employ any of these themes going forward. If any of these concepts presented for the LCO are met with favor from the locals you're welcome to them.:chug::chug:

[Stimpi]

The other adjustments in the #7, #8,#9 area will include marking the 7th tee area as OB for shots in play on hole#8.

NOOOOOOOOO.... not the tee for #8. That's where I always land!

[jshrack]

So... You aren't playing Downriver... But a temporary downriver set-up?
Are the TD's planning on changing everything back after the tourney?
Seems a pretty vital question...

[Burge]

Are the TD's planning on changing everything back after the tourney?
Seems a pretty vital question...

Seems hardly a viable, much less a vital, question. I believe Gordy clearly stated:

These modifications are for the event only.

....squeak...squeak...squeak...squeak...squeak...

[Yoduh]

putting an ob there isn't going to stop people from throwing on hole. Putting an ob by 6 WILL cause golfers to change their shot, AND will speed up play.

[Yoduh]

Going to see the new changes at Downriver tomorro. Should be interesting.

[jshrack]

Seems hardly a viable, much less a vital, question. I believe Gordy clearly stated:


If any of these concepts presented for the LCO are met with favor from the locals you're welcome to them.:chug::chug:

This completely contradicts his earlier comment, making my question extremely valid. Gordy has a history of wording his statements such that they can be interpreted in multiple ways. His post was ambiguous at best and I see the writing on the wall. If these changes are not reverted back to their original positions, it will be a HUGE deal.
Not a week later, not a month later, when the tournament is over.

If the changes are for the event only, then actually answering my question shouldn't be an issue.

[Burge]

This completely contradicts his earlier comment, making my question extremely valid. Gordy has a history of wording his statements such that they can be interpreted in multiple ways. His post was ambiguous at best and I see the writing on the wall. If these changes are not reverted back to their original positions, it will be a HUGE deal.
Not a week later, not a month later, when the tournament is over.

If the changes are for the event only, then actually answering my question shouldn't be an issue.

It would seem you have a history of complaining...especially when you say you aren't. Gordy's post is extremely clear and does answer your question. There is no contradiction between 'changes' and 'concepts' since one is a physical result and the other is an intangible idea. You're implying ambiguity where there is none. In your reality, you have already found Gordy guilty of leaving the changes in place before the event has even occurred. How about you wait until after the LCO to see if the changes are still in place? Then, if they are, please feel free to twist up yer panties and climb back on your high horse because I'm sure we will all feel safer with you back on the case of routing out the marauding band of rampant club members that is plaguing the course with unauthorized changes. Oh, the humanity!:rolleyes2:

[Gordy #21004]

NOOOOOOOOO.... not the tee for #8. That's where I always land!

Since out at the Mound I always think of you and your cart when doing path enhancement(in a positive way)(I think that's how the word enhancement plays) the OB around the tee at DR #7 for the Tourney( where you usually cash BIG TIME) is just another way we force you to up your ante. And by the way thank you for adding cash to the LCO purse. Love, Gordy.....Thought of you and your gang of troubadours all through the full moon.:chug:

[Yoduh]

Going to see the new changes at Downriver tomorro. Should be interesting.
:confused::puke::mad::explode:

[Yoduh]

New 6 is bad at best. I saw 25 drives on this hole and the best shots kept landing 45 ft. from the pin. Drives that were better finished in the rough with no putt. Furthermore your average golfer (throws 250 feet) has no route to throw. I don't like replacing a classic hole with a poke and hope oddball shot next to a dangerous and thick hillside, I fell trying to retrieve my disc...... My suggestion is paint from the trash can tree, to the first little tree(about 55ft from can), to the second little tree(100ft further), to the last big tree (60ft). You can easily line it up from the trash can tree. The same hole, 6, a mando on the 2nd big tree from the original tee-pad on the left. Leftys could still throw a flex shot which they used to have to do when the course was originally layed out because of a tree that used to grow from the right side allthe way to the left side and blocked that gap.. Man that was an awesome tree, sure miss it. I remember my lefty and side arm friends throwing a sweet flex shot on that hole. Changing 1 into a lefty hole and making 2 a nasty ob lefty shot and making 6 a double weird route shot and you've effectively gotten rid of every righty hole on the course.
Nate Sexton if your reading this you might want to re think coming:laughing:

[Yoduh]

Putting ob on 6 and 9 makes me change my drive on 9 which will keep people on 6 safe. It will also raise the scores on a hole that used to be a much tougher 3 because drivers didn't go as far so easy and stay that stable. Now it becomes a tough and fair "tough par 3".
With a mando on 6 there is no way that anyone throwing on 6 is going to have to worry about 9 or vice versa.

[Yoduh]

The island idea around hole 7 will not change my shot one bit and anyone on tee of 7 is still in danger of getting hit . In my opinion it's not a good ob idea because its goofy, life the lake of trees on 2. Which at least serves a purpose. This ob will only slow play as people are going to be trying to figure where they went o.b. On a hole that already backs up, doesn't seem like a good idea.