some video of my drives.. any pointers?? suggestions??

[Mikk]

White River DGC,Hole 17 blue t-pad, deep pin placement
Throwing a 2011 Asia Open C-line Discmania DD2 Frenzy, 171g
Distance thrown=400ft

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8aOv6qxiWQ

White River, Hole 8 red t-pad, deep pin placement
Throwing a Champion Groove, 171g
Disctance thrown=330ft?
Ya I got lucky with this shot...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ct-VCqAC60I

[General Scales]

Well, I've noticed in your video's that you always seem to be looking at the target even during your back swing. I find this to be counter productive. If you look back at your disc when you perform your reach back, it pushes your shoulder even further, giving you a bigger whip and snap effect. I've also found that throwing back hand while looking at the target puts more stress on the core muscles for throwing. That can cause injuries and fatigue. Not something anybody wants to have happen during a money round. Besides that they looked good and long.

[Fancher_503]

try keeping your left arm closer to your hip and body when your pulling the disc through the shot

[jshrack]

Well, I've noticed in your video's that you always seem to be looking at the target even during your back swing. I find this to be counter productive. If you look back at your disc when you perform your reach back, it pushes your shoulder even further, giving you a bigger whip and snap effect. I've also found that throwing back hand while looking at the target puts more stress on the core muscles for throwing. That can cause injuries and fatigue. Not something anybody wants to have happen during a money round. Besides that they looked good and long.

This is something I have been messing with.
I found that in my "Fundamentals" video, both Feldberg and Climo have a different perspective on this.
I have a feeling it is more of a power vs. accuracy approach to the drive.
Feldberg teaches the long reach back and turned heel...
Climo seems to push people to keep their periphery on the target, lead the arm.
I think it is a personal preference. :biggrin2:

[Mikk]

try keeping your left arm closer to your hip and body when your pulling the disc through the shot
I'm not shure when/why this started. I used to keep my arm tucked away but lately i have been doing the funky chicken thing??!!??

[DexterHawk]

Warning: Both of the things I'm going to suggest would take considerable practice to adjust... proceed with caution.

#1) Work on staying more upright when you throw... especially on the shot from the tee pad you really are getting your body out over your lead leg. Being out of balance will decrease the speed and you rotate your hips and shoulders through and really hurt your consistency.

#2) RELAX... you are really tugging on those shots... you don't need to. Work on slowing down a little, smoothing everything out and let the disc do the work... throw lighter plastic if you have too, but a repeatable shot can't be forced.

[Mikk]

Warning: Both of the things I'm going to suggest would take considerable practice to adjust... proceed with caution.

#1) Work on staying more upright when you throw... especially on the shot from the tee pad you really are getting your body out over your lead leg. Being out of balance will decrease the speed and you rotate your hips and shoulders through and really hurt your consistency.

#2) RELAX... you are really tugging on those shots... you don't need to. Work on slowing down a little, smoothing everything out and let the disc do the work... throw lighter plastic if you have too, but a repeatable shot can't be forced.

I am tugging a bit hard yes, however MOST of my plastic is 160g and less down to 149g, so I heave the heavy stuf! I do need to stand up a bit more, thats for certain.
Goal for tomorrow: stay more upright, keep left arm more towards body.
I'll work n those 2 things and see what I can get out of them!

[Mikk]

Also I re-tagged the video onto youtube for better play-back quality? Mabe better?

[Mikk]

Here is Hole 17 red t-pad, short pin placement at White River DGC
I have posted this vid before, but now its on youtube..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRUEphdn3qM

[mine all mine]

I will say this...your disc is going exactly where your backswing is aiming. The longer shot did not matter because there was plenty of room to the right for the disc to work. In the shorter shot you had to get lucky for your shot to work out, but it went exactly where you were directing it to go.

[Parks]

That last one looks like the best out of all of them. You looked a little smoother and controlled, with good rhythm on the walk up.

The only thing is it looks like you're just spinning all in one motion, so you don't ever let yourself generate power. All of that power should be generated right at the end when the disc is wanting to come out.

[mazza]

Here is Hole 17 red t-pad, short pin placement at White River DGC
I have posted this vid before, but now its on youtube..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRUEphdn3qM

WOW...night and day....if u noticed...in this video it took 1/2 the energy and movement to throw just as far if not father then that goofy ass run up u like to use

[whalekillah]

Easy solution....Throw Wood Rocs! Oh yeah that's just me. Nice tosses Mikk.

[General Scales]

WOW...night and day....if u noticed...in this video it took 1/2 the energy and movement to throw just as far if not father then that goofy ass run up u like to use

Exactly what I was trying to say in my post. It's funny how many people put in these crazy 5 plus step run ups on the pad and put all that inertia into it. I noticed that the crazier my run up, the poopier my form. If I slow it down till I'm ready to swing my hips and pull my shoulder forward, I get remarkable distance. Great example of this style is Jesper Lundmark. He can bomb over four hundred feet and he never looks like he's trying to hurry. This, opposed to the Josh Anthon style (crazy amount of steps) seems to work better, at least, for me.

With that all said, they still worked out well for you Mikk. Keep hucking and when you get to the east side of the state, hit me up. We will have to play some rounds.

[mazza]

i have a real small compact throw...and still hit over 450'....i will say this till i'm dead....its not how hard u throw...but how u throw

[REDFIVE]

if you are throwing 400 ft you should probably disc down for the 330 ft shot from a groove to a mid range or a fairway driver. Leopards are awesome, throw them.

[Parks]

Eagles, Teebirds, TLs, and XLs are all pretty bossy for that wooded 320-360 foot range, also.

[General Scales]

Eagles, Teebirds, TLs, and XLs are all pretty bossy for that wooded 320-360 foot range, also.

Stalkers and Strikers and Cyclones oh my!

[REDFIVE]

leopard, just get a leopard, or 3...teen of them.

[General Scales]

leopard, just get a leopard, or 3...teen of them.

Animal control might have an issue with this.

[Mikk]

if you are throwing 400 ft you should probably disc down for the 330 ft shot from a groove to a mid range or a fairway driver. Leopards are awesome, throw them.

I was out this morning throwing and had the same thought. So I used my 180g first run star Mako and parked it. I was making shure to keep my head with my shoulder (not looking over my shoulder) and X-3step- SNAP! What a lazer beam! I can see how that keeping my eyes on the disc during my forward swing realy allows me to get ALOT more snap into the disc.
However I stil have the left elbow sticking out issue, damn chicken wing!

[General Scales]

I was out this morning throwing and had the same thought. So I used my 180g first run star Mako and parked it. I was making shure to keep my head with my shoulder (not looking over my shoulder) and X-3step- SNAP! What a lazer beam! I can see how that keeping my eyes on the disc during my forward swing realy allows me to get ALOT more snap into the disc.
However I stil have the left elbow sticking out issue, damn chicken wing!

Yeah it's an amazing feeling when you first realize that. It took me a little bit to get it but now it's amazing. When I line up my shot, I pick the mark I'm trying to hit in front and line up a target behind me in direct line with the mark in front. It seems that I tend to be more accurate this way. Added bonus being that you get to see the angle of your disc when you go to release. Which can definitely be a big help when you really have to have that perfect shot.

The left arm thing isn't really a giant issue per-say. It could be if it was robbing you of power but it doesn't seem to in your videos. You could always have somebody tape your arm to your body so you get used to it. Might be a little difficult to play an entire round that way. Keep hukking!

[Parks]

I've heard of people having good results just by practicing with their off hand in their pants pocket. It will ensure that your arm stays tucked in during the throw, and you will get used to it quickly.

[Mikk]

I've heard of people having good results just by practicing with their off hand in their pants pocket. It will ensure that your arm stays tucked in during the throw, and you will get used to it quickly.

I have a friend that throws like that, his off-hand in his pocket. I was thinking about holding my towel, wich is clipped onto my belt loop. Then again I might try to rip the towel off!!

[Parks]

I would do the pocket since you're unlikely rip it off, and just do it for practice. I wouldn't actually throw like that, because it could get distracting and doesn't allow your off arm to come out as a counter-balance during the follow through.

[REDFIVE]

I saw no problems with your left arm. It may be a little behind but it isn't a problem. Let it be.