The flow is the throw...

[Mikk]

Today it amost happened, while getting some practice I almost aced hole 5, blue t-pad, at the Whie River DGC with a 172g glow nuke.. This hole is tricky as it is an island set basket with a narrow double mando, left and right side of the fairway, requiring a "hyzer flip" RHBH drive.
I think its 385ft? flat, and a very difficult line.
I have been thinking about how much I hear from my fellow golfers that I over-muscle my drives, and yes I have that issue. Howeveer from the excellent exposure I get from the many players I golf with, I was able to "compile" the input into a great drive. The thing that suprized me the most was how little muscle effort and the most flow I had into the drive itself.
I think after 19 years of playing golf I had a mere glimpse into "zen golfing" itself.
The odd thing realy is that I put almost no physical (muscle) effort into the distance I was trying to throw, but more into the "flow" of the mechanics of the drive itself. The results of this combination of style/s is the most amazing thing I have ever personaly thrown. I realy feel that I have found the "tip" of the iceburg that is the flow of the drive style (RHBH).
This is the 2nd time that the "flow" drive dynamic happened to me this month. The first was when I was able to throw my 166 star katana an estimated 500ft drive (no real measurement) at the Lakewood DGC on hole 11 (the Geezer hole), my katana landed on the concrete slab just in front of the last big tree towards the basket. I then used my 166 champ eagle LHFH for birdie!!
This hole is 620ft in total distance and has a minus 50ft elevation drop(?).
I'm so energized with what happend today my brain is still spinning!!

[whalekillah]

Glad you're enjoying that Nuke!!!

[cefire]

If you are talking about the little slab on the far left side of the fairway, I think you're looking at about 410'-420' of flatland distance. I've landed there on really long drives and I'm not even close to 450 these days.

Not to be a buzzkill, still a very nice drive, but a 500 or so foot flatland drive would probably put you somewhere near the putting circle on Geezer.

[mazza]

its not how hard u THROW....but how u THROW that makes the difference

[jeffmonty]

Nice job! I've been thinking about this alot lately because I know my mechanics have always been screwed up.I've been playing for about 15 years and never learned to throw properly. I have bad habits and am always just trying to throw as hard as I can, but my max D is only a little over 300'. I don't seem to have the patience to go throw in a field for an hour or two, I would just rather play a round, and then I don't want to blow the round by trying new things. BUT, this spring I'm really going to make it a point to improve my mechanics with practice(in a field) and retool my wind-up. After this many years I really should be getting more distance than 300. Good luck to you.

[REDFIVE]

dont take an hour or two in the field. take 20-30 min. too much is no good. practicing tired will engrain worse habbits and you might hurt yourself throwing that much. you can throw 20-30 drives in 20-30 min. almost 2 rounds of drives in a portion of the time. practice good practice.

[mazza]

i would say that when ur in the field.....try working on just a smooth 3 step....and find a tempo get ur body in time with its self....and let the disc fly

[DexterHawk]

also good to work on a variety of distances when your in a field... go to a football field and try to throw from end zone to end zone... then out to the 20 yard line into the endzone... then back 20 yards from the endzone... then hyzer around the goal posts... then left to right around the goal posts... too often field work means distance contest for most players... on most courses I only throw as hard as I can once or twice... my practice should reflect that

[Mikk]

dont take an hour or two in the field. take 20-30 min. too much is no good. practicing tired will engrain worse habbits and you might hurt yourself throwing that much. you can throw 20-30 drives in 20-30 min. almost 2 rounds of drives in a portion of the time. practice good practice.

Exactly!! I think this is where I have been going wrong. Too much practice on just my distance driving. Lately I have been playing a round or 3, then going to the field just for driving. You would think the little blood blisters in my index finger should have been the first sign to rest for a day or two, but alas I'm a disc golf junkie :)

[Ol' Bob]

OC golfers must restrain themselves. But we don't, right?

[General Scales]

I know how you feel about the flow. For my first two years, I thought distance came from crazy fast run ups and massive inertia from my arm outward. Now I know that I can throw 400 with little more than a step on to the pad and a modified x step. The flow came from me watching video's of myself. Realized that I wasn't slamming my shoulder back far enough. Now I can pretty much no step a 300 hundred footer. Marvelous feeling when you finally start feeling the progression. Congratulations. You should now make sure you commit it to muscle memory!

[Cajun]

Today it amost happened..., The thing that suprized me the most was how little muscle effort and the most flow I had into the drive itself. I think after 19 years of playing golf I had a mere glimpse into "zen golfing" itself. The odd thing realy is that I put almost no physical (muscle) effort into the distance I was trying to throw, but more into the "flow" of the mechanics of the drive itself. The results of this combination of style/s is the most amazing thing I have ever personaly thrown. I realy feel that I have found the "tip" of the iceburg that is the flow of the drive style (RHBH). I'm so energized with what happend today my brain is still spinning!!

Pulling off these drives is a great feeling. Bask in it. After the 19th year mark of playing disc golf I can tell you that the opportunity to come by these should happen more often. Channel the energy & feel the "flow".

However, you can do even better. Throw from the soul. To find true "Zen golfing" you must throw from the soul.

Good luck.
Many Blessings.
Peace, Love, & Happiness

[epicskyzer]

If you dig the "flow"... get yourself a Flow. Made by Lat 64. The disc is off spring of a Valk and a Wraith doing the nasty to some slow jammin Reggae. No force needed, rides a tail wind like no other, and the Lat 64 plastic is some of the best new shit on the market. check it out!

[Mikk]

If you dig the "flow"... get yourself a Flow. Made by Lat 64. The disc is off spring of a Valk and a Wraith doing the nasty to some slow jammin Reggae. No force needed, rides a tail wind like no other, and the Lat 64 plastic is some of the best new shit on the market. check it out!

Actualy I have thrown the Flow. It was in gold line plastic and it looked like liquid silver! I was test driving it for a friend at white river dgc. He wanted my personal opinion and what you said is like what i told him!! Realy good for short hyzerbombs under 300ft. Good for 400ft t-pad drives as well. I realy like the smaller diameter, big liped drivers. I plan on getting a flow and a chaos this weekend!

[General Scales]

Actualy I have thrown the Flow. It was in gold line plastic and it looked like liquid silver! I was test driving it for a friend at white river dgc. He wanted my personal opinion and what you said is like what i told him!! Realy good for short hyzerbombs under 300ft. Good for 400ft t-pad drives as well. I realy like the smaller diameter, big liped drivers. I plan on getting a flow and a chaos this weekend!

Chaos is a disc that I will leave on the shelf. Bombed a couple. Acts just like an Excalibur except for the fact that it seems to be a little faster. Since I don't like the Excalibur, I really don't like the Chaos. Not that I don't have the arm to throw it. I just find that I like discs that do the same thing without having to muscle them to do it. Did love the Flow though. Was amazing. We will have to play a round when you get over to Eastern Washington on your Tournament travels this year.

[Matt B.]

Chaos is a disc that I will leave on the shelf. Bombed a couple. Acts just like an Excalibur except for the fact that it seems to be a little faster. Since I don't like the Excalibur, I really don't like the Chaos. Not that I don't have the arm to throw it. I just find that I like discs that do the same thing without having to muscle them to do it. Did love the Flow though. Was amazing. We will have to play a round when you get over to Eastern Washington on your Tournament travels this year.

OK, well since you bastids have now talked up the Flow to the extent that I want to buy one, how about some comparisons/reccomendations/observations in plastic or weight? Opto or Gold, in your experience which is more under/over stable, etc? I have never thrown any Lat 64 so I have no idea.

[General Scales]

OK, well since you bastids have now talked up the Flow to the extent that I want to buy one, how about some comparisons/reccomendations/observations in plastic or weight? Opto or Gold, in your experience which is more under/over stable, etc? I have never thrown any Lat 64 so I have no idea.

In my experience, Opto seems to be a tad more overstable than Goldline. I do, however, like the Goldline more on most discs. The Flow seems like a Katana except a little less high speed turn resistant and with less low speed fade. Either plastic is great. Just depends on what you like to throw normally. The stats for the Flow are as follows:
Speed: 11
Glide: 6
Turn: -2
Fade: 1

Latitude makes great discs. Can't wait to get my hands on a Havoc. Maybe it'll find a place like the Spike and the Vision have.