Oregon Team Disc Golf Championships

[Sausage Fingers]

As we have only one regular season event left to our season, I thought that it might be a good time to make sure everybody knows the new format of the Championships this year. Last year I got lots of complaints about how there wasn't enough disc golf in the championships to really decide a true champion.

Well there's gonna be a lot of disc golf in this year's championships!

Last year we used a modified version of our regular match format and got the whole deal done in one day. This year I have expanded that to a 2-day event. This will be the only 2-day event in OTDG this year. We will be playing the regular format for each match: 1 on Saturday 2/26 and 1 on Sunday 2/27.

SATURDAY 2/26 - CONFERENCE CHAMPIONSHIPS

Milo West Course AM/East Course PM
Saturday Conference plays off for final standings
North Division Vs South Division
N1 Vs S1
N2 Vs S2
N3 Vs S3
N4 Vs S4
N5 Vs S5
This will give us a ranking of the 10 Saturday Teams SAT1 through SAT10

Milo East Course AM/West Course PM
Sunday Conference plays off for final standings
East Division Vs West Division
E1 Vs W1
E2 Vs W2
E3 Vs W3
E4 Vs W4
E5 Vs W5
This will give us a ranking of the 10 Sunday Teams SUN1 through SUN10

SUNDAY 2/27 - OTDG CHAMPIONSHIPS

Milo West Course AM/East Course PM
Top Half plays off for final standings
Saturday Vs Sunday
SAT1 Vs SUN1
SAT2 Vs SUN2
SAT3 Vs SUN3
SAT4 Vs SUN4
SAT5 Vs SUN5

Milo East Course AM/West Course PM
Bottom Half plays off for final standings
Saturday Vs Sunday
SAT6 Vs SUN6
SAT7 Vs SUN7
SAT8 Vs SUN8
SAT9 Vs SUN9
SAT10 Vs SUN10

This will give us the final ranking of the 20 OTDG Teams for 2010-2011!

So the bottom line is each team will need to field players for both days to get the best ranking possible. And since we will already be full up for next year if all teams return next year, I will be looking at attendance at the finals as desire to play next year. So if your entire team bails on a match in the finals you will not be guaranteed a spot in next year's OTDG.

Now. After we play this year's Championship, I will be looking for any suggestions on what we can do to make OTDG better for next year. Not the least of which is your opinion on this year's Championship format. Is 4 rounds of golf in two days too much for a casual series finale?

:pirate:

[Darr]

There should be wild cards. :rockon:

[Sausage Fingers]

There should be wild cards. :rockon:

OK, let's hear how you think we should use Wild Cards...

:pirate:

[Wes Hansen]

When you say Milo East and West.. the BSF courses!?

["Over the Hill" Bob]

Now. After we play this year's Championship, I will be looking for any suggestions on what we can do to make OTDG better for next year. Not the least of which is your opinion on this year's Championship format. Is 4 rounds of golf in two days too much for a casual series finale?:pirate:

Milo/4 rounds/2 days............for OLD guys? Yes! :shocked:

Bob

[Sausage Fingers]

Milo/4 rounds/2 days............for OLD guys? Yes! :shocked:

Bob

Duly noted. Thanks for voicing your opinion.:posting:

When you say Milo East and West.. the BSF courses!?

We are hoping to use the full course that weekend to help make everything go smoothly, but haven't gotten a final word on this yet. If not, then we will be using the east/west layouts like we did last month.

:pirate:

[jevon]

Will you give us nice weather that weekend?

[Sausage Fingers]

Will you give us nice weather that weekend?

Sure, just like I dialed it in perfectly for our North Bonneville events!:bricks:

:pirate:

[Darr]

OK, let's hear how you think we should use Wild Cards...

:pirate:
I was thinking next season as we would need 6 divisions.
Just like in MLB.

By 1994, further expansion was making it very difficult for a team to make the postseason. Major League baseball went through a re-alignment, expanding to three divisions (East, Central, West) in each league. However, only allowing divisional winners in the postseason would make an odd number of teams in each league, three. To rectify the odd number of teams, the league added wild-cards to each league, imitating the original post-merger NFL system. This system was in place for 1994, but the players' strike canceled the postseason. The system was realized on the field in 1995. The wild card team would be the team with the best record in each league of all the teams that did not win their division. Splitting the leagues into 3 divisions, plus the addition of a wild card team, doubled the postseason contenders in each league from two to four, and from four to eight teams overall. The additional teams meant another elimination round was necessary. This new round would become the new first round of the postseason, the best-of-five, Division Series. This term had first been used for the extra round required in 1981 due to the "split-season" scheduling anomaly following the mid-season players' strike. The three-tiered tournament is the system currently in use. In the event that the wild card team is from the same division as the best divisional champion, the 2nd best divisional champ plays the wild card team and the top divisional champ plays the bottom divisional champ.

[Sausage Fingers]

I was thinking next season as we would need 6 divisions.
Just like in MLB.

Yeah we have to be talking about next season, since this season is already set. But my two questions are how do you split 10 teams into 3 divisions and are you talking about adding an extra week to the Championships?

We already have 9 events played for match points along with a Prelim event and a Championship weekend of play. This is probably the max for me. And since every single team has someone to play in the Championships, their argument of more teams making it harder to make the post season doesn't hold water.

Really, the regular season is just to figure out who gets to play for 1st. You want to win the whole thing? First you win your Division. And then you win your Conference on the first day's competition of Championship Weekend. And THEN beat the other Conference Champion for The Title. If you take care of business during the season you have your shot at the title. If you slack it during the regular season should you be able to magically come from behind for the win? Not in a single weekend Championship...

But if you can come up with a specific to TDG solution that includes a Wild Card format then I'd still be willing to give it a listen.

:pirate:

[PDX_Stu]

I am expecting the Saturday TDs to bring lots of quaffer material too!
It will be like a buffet of alcoholic bliss..

:chug::chug::chug::chug:

[Sam]

Add two teams to each side and then you have 3 divisions of 4 teams each. I heard that Troy might want to play next year. :laughing:

[Jeff Hemmerling]

Add two teams to each side and then you have 3 divisions of 4 teams each. I heard that Troy might want to play next year. :laughing:I will bet that at least one team (probably from Saturday) will not return next year. Besides, there is not enough room on an 18 hole course for twelve teams.

This brings up a question for you Jordan:

If one of the current Sunday teams does not return next year does that mean that no Sunday team needs to be relegated to Saturday?

I am upset that either D&D or Vapor Trails will be sent to the "minors". Both those teams have been with us for many years and I will miss playing (and seeing) long-time friends. :(

[DanD]

Looks like each team only plays one round each day, am I missing something? I keep seeing 4rounds of golf for the finals posted.

[Sam]

2 rounds each day. Each day is a normal TDG match-up.

["Over the Hill" Bob]

I will bet that at least one team (probably from Saturday) will not return next year. Besides, there is not enough room on an 18 hole course for twelve teams.

This brings up a question for you Jordan:

If one of the current Sunday teams does not return next year does that mean that no Sunday team needs to be relegated to Saturday?

I am upset that either D&D or Vapor Trails will be sent to the "minors". Both those teams have been with us for many years and I will miss playing (and seeing) long-time friends. :(

Not to worry Jeff, if our team were to be relegated to moving to Saturday it would be without me, and I wouldn't be playing TDG next.

Bob

[Jonesy]

Griplok is looking forward to quaffers!!!!!! why does everyone want to play on sundays anyway?

[Jeff Hemmerling]

Why does everyone want to play on sundays anyway?Good question. Better competition? Jordan runs Sundays better than Keith runs Saturday? Better quaffers?

Not everyone does though. Some of the Rockwood members want to move to Saturday next year. I think many of the Saturday players are happy with that day because it works with their schedule, as are Sunday players. I know if Putt This were forced to move to Saturday I would lose at least two members because it conflicts with work. Sometimes I wish we played on Saturday because it would be nice to have a "day off" before work on Monday.

All that said, I am looking forward to seeing and playing with the whole Saturday crew on championship weekend. :)

[TreeLove]

Looks like each team only plays one round each day, am I missing something? I keep seeing 4rounds of golf for the finals posted.

I got the same impression at first glance, but carefully re-read, and you will see that you will play one round on East and one round on West each day.

[keith_shupp]

Good question. Better competition? Jordan runs Sundays better than Keith runs Saturday? Better quaffers?

Not everyone does though. Some of the Rockwood members want to move to Saturday next year. I think many of the Saturday players are happy with that day because it works with their schedule, as are Sunday players. I know if Putt This were forced to move to Saturday I would lose at least two members because it conflicts with work. Sometimes I wish we played on Saturday because it would be nice to have a "day off" before work on Monday.

All that said, I am looking forward to seeing and playing with the whole Saturday crew on championship weekend. :)

We like Saturdays because Hemmerling is on Sundays and we dont have to see him in that dress bending over all the time. I have heard that Sam likes to watch Jeff bend over and pick up dimes that is why he plays Sundays.

[LegoRules]

Griplok is looking forward to quaffers!!!!!! why does everyone want to play on sundays anyway?



Hot Poop likes Saturday's :yay: Our team last year was given the option to move to Sunday when Crusties turned down the move, and we turned it down too. I think their may be fewer teams than you think that want to move. :)

Cindy :)

[Sausage Fingers]

If one of the current Sunday teams does not return next year does that mean that no Sunday team needs to be relegated to Saturday?

yes

:pirate:

[Susie Sunshine]

I am expecting the Saturday TDs to bring lots of quaffer material too!
It will be like a buffet of alcoholic bliss..

:chug::chug::chug::chug:

Speaking of alcoholic bliss, we will be bringing our delicious Apple Pie drink to share with everyone for the championships. :cheers:

[Sausage Fingers]

Speaking of alcoholic bliss, we will be bringing our delicious Apple Pie drink to share with everyone for the championships. :cheers:

Nothin says Championship better than hot Apple Pie drinks!:chug:

:pirate:

[Darr]

Speaking of alcoholic bliss, we will be bringing our delicious Apple Pie drink to share with everyone for the championships. :cheers:

LOVE button!!

[jevon]

LOVE button!!

Isn't that Dan's nickname for you?

[Darr]

Isn't that Dan's nickname for you?

No smack from donut teams!:whistler:

[Wes Hansen]

You may find this hard to believe, but I think all the smack talk has been sucked right out of me.
0-8/9 tends to do that.
What...







- no, no smack talk.

[Jeff Hemmerling]

You may find this hard to believe, but I think all the smack talk has been sucked right out of me.Another sign of the apocalypse. :(

[chris7graham]

Another sign of the apocalypse. :(

:slapface::laughing::laughing::laughing:

[jdinteg]

Come on Wes! That's what I love about you. Don't let a few strokes, at a disc eating course burst your bubble buddy. You need to put the smack down on DGOD, I bet those guys are petrified of the Discruptors at Adair.

[Wes Hansen]

shhhh- this time we're gonna start quiet and finish LOUD

[Bullseye]

shhhh- this time we're gonna start quiet and finish LOUD

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[Wes Hansen]

I went as suggested... but why did I go there?

[Jonesy]

Will ratings readjust between sat and sun rounds during the championships?

[dooley]

Speaking of alcoholic bliss, we will be bringing our delicious Apple Pie drink to share with everyone for the championships. :cheers:

there will be an ample supply of Dooleyjuice for those who have waited patiently:chug::cheers:

[whalekillah]

me too. Even if I have to build a team.

Add two teams to each side and then you have 3 divisions of 4 teams each. I heard that Troy might want to play next year. :laughing:

[pop]

Now. After we play this year's Championship, I will be looking for any suggestions on what we can do to make OTDG better for next year. Not the least of which is your opinion on this year's Championship format. Is 4 rounds of golf in two days too much for a casual series finale?

:pirate:

First of all, thank you for a great job this year. It was a great event to play in and thanks for all your effort. I know that these things take an investment in time to put on, and I am sure that everyone appreciates it even if they do not say so.

That said, you asked for and I have a few suggestions for next year's championships.
1) we should play Saturday against Sunday sooner than the last day.
2) we should allow a greater pool of contenders for the championship match.
3) we should play different teams in the morning and afternoon in the championship weekend
4) we should only have two divisions - sat and sun.

So here is a suggestion for the playoff weekend next year.
Saturday Morning:
MatchAM1: Sat8 vs. Sun1.
MatchAM2: Sat7 vs. Sun2
MatchAM3: Sat6 vs. Sun3.
MatchAM4: Sat5 vs. Sun4.
MatchAM5: Sat4 vs. Sun5.
MatchAM6: Sat3 vs. Sun6.
MatchAM7: Sat2 vs. Sun7.
MatchAM8: Sat1 vs. Sun8.

Saturday Afternoon:
Match PM1: MatchAM1 Winner vs. MatchAM4 Winner.
Match PM2: MatchAM3 Winner vs. MatchAM2 Winner.
Match PM3: MatchAM5 Winner vs. MatchAM8 Winner.
Match PM4: MatchAM6 Winner vs. MatchAM7 Winner.
Match PM5: MatchAM1 Loser vs. MatchAM4 Loser.
Match PM6: MatchAM3 Loser vs. MatchAM2 Loser
Match PM7: MatchAM5 Loser vs. MatchAM8 Loser
Match PM8: MatchAM6 Loser vs. MatchAM7 Loser.

Sunday Morning:
Match AM1: Match PM1 Winner vs. Match PM2 Winner
Match AM2: Match PM3 Winner vs. Match PM4 Winner.
<other matches go here>

Sunday Afternoon:
Match PM1 (championship): Match AM1 Winner vs. Match AM2 Winner.
<other matches go here>

So this way, the top 8 of Saturday and the top 8 of Sunday all get a chance to play in the championship round, seeding based on the finishing standings of the regular season. If we want to have the championships last another day (or weekend), then rather than having only the top 16 teams, we can have up to 32 teams vie for the finals, which might be more fun. I can go either way on that, as not every football team makes the playoffs either. All teams will play, but they will not be playing for first place.

The down side is that the picking of players that get matched up will have to be figured out. Perhaps captains that are wiser than me can give me a clue as to the subtleties of what goes into this decision. Maybe the captains can just decide who plays doubles and then the rest are ranked in "player rating" order.

If you buy in to this, I am happy to work with you to supply a suggested set of details for the matches as detailed above.

well this post is way too long and I am getting thirsty. Thanks again for all the effort that everyone put in to make this a lot of fun

Pop

[Jeff Hemmerling]

Will ratings readjust between sat and sun rounds during the championships?Last night Jordan said "No". Just too much work.

[Sausage Fingers]

Last night Jordan said "No". Just too much work.

Actually it was pointed out that after 9 events and Pre Lims one more data point won't make that big of an adjustment to your rating. But the work thing put it over the top.

:pirate:

[Sausage Fingers]

First of all, thank you for a great job this year. It was a great event to play in and thanks for all your effort. I know that these things take an investment in time to put on, and I am sure that everyone appreciates it even if they do not say so.

That said, you asked for and I have a few suggestions for next year's championships.
1) we should play Saturday against Sunday sooner than the last day.
2) we should allow a greater pool of contenders for the championship match.
3) we should play different teams in the morning and afternoon in the championship weekend
4) we should only have two divisions - sat and sun.

So here is a suggestion for the playoff weekend next year.
Saturday Morning:
MatchAM1: Sat8 vs. Sun1.
MatchAM2: Sat7 vs. Sun2
MatchAM3: Sat6 vs. Sun3.
MatchAM4: Sat5 vs. Sun4.
MatchAM5: Sat4 vs. Sun5.
MatchAM6: Sat3 vs. Sun6.
MatchAM7: Sat2 vs. Sun7.
MatchAM8: Sat1 vs. Sun8.

Saturday Afternoon:
Match PM1: MatchAM1 Winner vs. MatchAM4 Winner.
Match PM2: MatchAM3 Winner vs. MatchAM2 Winner.
Match PM3: MatchAM5 Winner vs. MatchAM8 Winner.
Match PM4: MatchAM6 Winner vs. MatchAM7 Winner.
Match PM5: MatchAM1 Loser vs. MatchAM4 Loser.
Match PM6: MatchAM3 Loser vs. MatchAM2 Loser
Match PM7: MatchAM5 Loser vs. MatchAM8 Loser
Match PM8: MatchAM6 Loser vs. MatchAM7 Loser.

Sunday Morning:
Match AM1: Match PM1 Winner vs. Match PM2 Winner
Match AM2: Match PM3 Winner vs. Match PM4 Winner.
<other matches go here>

Sunday Afternoon:
Match PM1 (championship): Match AM1 Winner vs. Match AM2 Winner.
<other matches go here>

So this way, the top 8 of Saturday and the top 8 of Sunday all get a chance to play in the championship round, seeding based on the finishing standings of the regular season. If we want to have the championships last another day (or weekend), then rather than having only the top 16 teams, we can have up to 32 teams vie for the finals, which might be more fun. I can go either way on that, as not every football team makes the playoffs either. All teams will play, but they will not be playing for first place.

The down side is that the picking of players that get matched up will have to be figured out. Perhaps captains that are wiser than me can give me a clue as to the subtleties of what goes into this decision. Maybe the captains can just decide who plays doubles and then the rest are ranked in "player rating" order.

If you buy in to this, I am happy to work with you to supply a suggested set of details for the matches as detailed above.

well this post is way too long and I am getting thirsty. Thanks again for all the effort that everyone put in to make this a lot of fun

Pop

I like it. It doesn't make the regular season mean that much when you just play for the round robin tournament in the championships, but I like the way it breaks down. With 4 matches you can cut a field of 16 down to a winner.

We could make the matches 7 singles with the Visitor setting out 4 players then the Home team declaring all 7 and then the Visitor gets to match the last three.

Some have complained about 4 rounds in two days. Maybe it should just be one day each weekend after the 9th event. Play the first two rounds one weekend and the last two the following weekend. But with all the other winter golf being offered that might be too much.

We might also try a format that focuses less on the divisions and even go back to total match points in two big 10 team divisions.

Good things to talk about for next year. Keep em coming.

:pirate:

[Discdogs]

there will be an ample supply of Dooleyjuice for those who have waited patiently:chug::cheers:

uhhhh.dont think i want to try Dooleys juice

[Wes Hansen]

I would like to have his portion also! I've had Dooley's juice and it's more refreshing than it sounds.

[Hippy007]

When will the extra baskets be in if they are going in to get a little practice...

Hippy007
:cool2:

[Sausage Fingers]

When will the extra baskets be in if they are going in to get a little practice...

Hippy007
:cool2:

the park doesn't put out all the baskets unless you rent all of the shelter areas, so you'll just have to sink that putt in your mind.

:pirate:

[Jonesy]

For those of you who are new to team golf I will tell you now what you've gotten yourself into. Yes......the championships are on this weekend. There are no cancellations or postponements! Your gonna play 4 rounds at milo in knee deep snow! Ha! Bring your flagging tape.

[jdinteg]

For those of you who are new to team golf I will tell you now what you've gotten yourself into. Yes......the championships are on this weekend. There are no cancellations or postponements! Your gonna play 4 rounds at milo in knee deep snow! Ha! Bring your flagging tape.

:( I hope your wrong Jonesy!

[Sausage Fingers]

For those of you who are new to team golf I will tell you now what you've gotten yourself into. Yes......the championships are on this weekend. There are no cancellations or postponements! Your gonna play 4 rounds at milo in knee deep snow! Ha! Bring your flagging tape.

You are an evil man Jonesy. We could always just cancel the championships and say my team won.:trophy: That always works for me.:cheerleader: Somebody ask Pinkal what Zafino has to say about the subject...:shooting:

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[Jonesy]

Could move it to the fearless in estecada and make it a putting and drinking contest?

[George A.]

Bring the snow ..I'm not a BABY ...THIS IS TEAM F-N GOLF .... how hard can it be???

[Pizzel]

What time are we starting tomorrow?

[George A.]

Noonish show up about 1ish you'll be ok

[Pizzel]

Noonish show up about 1ish you'll be ok
Your mom will be happy to know that I can stick around in the morning!

[Sausage Fingers]

What time are we starting tomorrow?

What we do every night Pinky, try to take over the world!

:pirate: