Great Northwest Open - April 16th-17th - Whistler's Bend

[sassalicious]

Hello,

We are happy to announce the dates for this year's Great Northwest Open are going to be April 16th & 17th. We will be using the same format we have in the past with two flights, everyone playing 3 rounds on Whistler's Bend's awesome disc golf course. This year's event will be a PDGA B-tier for all divisions.

Entry Fees
All Pro Divisions: $75
All Advanced Divisions: $55
All Intermidiate Divisions: $45
Minimum of 4 people per division

Schedule:
Friday
4:00-5:30 PM Check in
4:30-5:30 PM Sign in for random
draw doubles
5:30 PM Doubles starts

Saturday
7:00-8:00 AM Late check in
8:30 AM Flight A players meeting
9:00 AM Flight A tees off
11:30 AM Flight B players meeting
12:00 PM Flight B tees off
2:30 PM Flight A players meeting
3:00 PM Flight A tees off

Sunday
8:00 AM Flight B players meeting
8:30 AM Flight B tees off
11:00 AM Flight A players meeting
11:30 AM Flight A tees off
2:00 PM Flight B players meeting
2:30 PM Flight B tees off
Awards to follow
[second and third round start times each day are subject to change as round times dictate]

Flight A: All Advanced Divisions
Flight B: All Pro and Intermidiate Divisions
[these flights are subject to change in needed for pool balancing]

Group camping will be available Fri, Sat, and Sun nights only, $5 a head per night for all campers! If you want to show up and camp on Thursday night, you'll need to camp in the spaces over on the other side of the park as group camp will not be available for us.

Registration
On-line registration will be opened in mid Feb... we will announce the date as we get closer to it (we need to get confirmation for the on-line registration hosting folks).

For all of you playing over the cold winter months, we have a special deal for you to reward your disc golf tenacity. For people that play at least two OLE events, we will hold 50 spots for these folks to use to sign up for the Great NW Open at their second OLE. For those of you that have already played two events, you can sign up at Trojan this Saturday (Jan 22nd), for those of you that haven't played OLE yet, you can still play two before we open on-line registration in mid Feb.

We will be holding only 50 spots for this, with the bulk of spots being reserved for on-line registration. However, if we don't have all 50 claimed by the Pier Park OLE on Feb 5th, then we will hold these open for anyone to claim at the last OLE at Stub Stuart on March 5th... after that, these spots will go to the wait list.

TD contact info
Tom Embree
360.314.2495
crushthecourse@hotmail.com

[emmarose]

damn, teresa, you be puttin' the smile on my face today!!!

thank you, thank you, girlie...

(... looks like i'll be seein' ya this saturday...)

[tayl0420]

"Registration
On-line registration will be opened in mid Feb... we will announce the date as we get closer to it (we need to get confirmation for the on-line registration hosting folks).

For all of you playing over the cold winter months, we have a special deal for you to reward your disc golf tenacity. For people that play at least two OLE events, we will hold 50 spots for these folks to use to sign up for the Great NW Open at their second OLE. For those of you that have already played two events, you can sign up at Trojan this Saturday (Jan 22nd), for those of you that haven't played OLE yet, you can still play two before we open on-line registration in mid Feb.

We will be holding only 50 spots for this, with the bulk of spots being reserved for on-line registration. However, if we don't have all 50 claimed by the Pier Park OLE on Feb 5th, then we will hold these open for anyone to claim at the last OLE at Stub Stuart on March 5th... after that, these spots will go to the wait list."


Where is the incentive for those of us who live on the other side of the mountains? If you want to reward those with tenacity, how about the folks who actually play in snow? Just sayin!

[sassalicious]

"Where is the incentive for those of us who live on the other side of the mountains? If you want to reward those with tenacity, how about the folks who actually play in snow? Just sayin!"

Yeah snow golf! Yes, we realize we are unable to reward all winter disc golf play, and that's why we are reserving most spots for on-line registration.

If you live on this side of the mountains, this might be just the motivation you were needing to get off the couch and try out some OLE disc golf!

[Hayduke]

Awesome. Can't wait for this one. My second favourite tourny of the year. Always well run and a ton of fun. Thanks for that Teresa and Tom.

Having said that I must inquire about this 'holding back 50 spots for OLE players idea'. Is the OLE series a fundraiser for the GNO? If so, fair enough as OLE players add to GNO cash and should get first dibs at a spot. The Willy open does that as well with its qualifiers and I totally agree with it.

If not, then I fail to see the logic, apart from trying to boost OLE attendance, which I believe would be a little unfair for those people that don't live in Portland.

Regardless, I hope to be there. The GNO and Whistler's rocks!

:drool:

[all2common]

Awesome. Can't wait for this one. My second favourite tourny of the year. Always well run and a ton of fun. Thanks for that Teresa and Tom.

Having said that I must inquire about this 'holding back 50 spots for OLE players idea'. Is the OLE series a fundraiser for the GNO? If so, fair enough as OLE players add to GNO cash and should get first dibs at a spot. The Willy open does that as well with its qualifiers and I totally agree with it.

If not, then I fail to see the logic, apart from trying to boost OLE attendance, which I believe would be a little unfair for those people that don't live in Portland.

Regardless, I hope to be there. The GNO and Whistler's rocks!

:drool:

Is there an emoticon for nail...hammer...head...?

[OneDarkRebel]

Since this is a B Tier this year (was an A Tier for Advanced field last year) is this event being disqualified as a 2011 Am Nationals qualifier (it currently shows as a qualifier on the Am Nationals website, but as an A Tier)? This is a moot point for me, as I qualified at BSF, but others might want to know...this would be the only other qualifier in Oregon other than 2010 BSF.

[JBizzle]

No love for the southern winter golfers??? Didnt the GNO fill in like an hour last year? Seems kinda crazy to me that there is going to be 50 less spots for non portland area golfers this year. Especially for the only Southern Oregon "oregon series" tournament.

[the flogging putter]

No love for the southern winter golfers??? Didnt the GNO fill in like an hour last year? Seems kinda crazy to me that there is going to be 50 less spots for non portland area golfers this year. Especially for the only Southern Oregon "oregon series" tournament.

I understand what you are saying JB The more I think on this idea the more it sounds hinky. At 1st I was thinking not a bad idea for a series to do, but now i don't think so. Not that it matters what I see just my 2cents.

[Matt B.]

No love for the southern winter golfers??? Didnt the GNO fill in like an hour last year? Seems kinda crazy to me that there is going to be 50 less spots for non portland area golfers this year. Especially for the only Southern Oregon "oregon series" tournament.

Is there an "Oregon Series" this year? We'll have a schedule of events, but I'm not sure any information about an official series has been promoted yet.

Back to back events in April would be out of the norm for a series.

[Jim J]

No love for the southern winter golfers??? Didnt the GNO fill in like an hour last year? Seems kinda crazy to me that there is going to be 50 less spots for non portland area golfers this year. Especially for the only Southern Oregon "oregon series" tournament.

I see it as TnT using the high demand to play in the GNO to help them get and keep the OLE Series viable, which seems like smart marketing.

And I take some comfort in the fact that if I don't/can't get into the GNO this year there are a number of other well-run tournaments that are scheduled for Whistler's this year. And for that, my thanks to the southern Oregon clubs.

[rocer180]

when you said you are rewarding the winter golfers, do you mean the one that play in the OLE events or all the winter golfers? because there are alot of us who can't make it up north but still play alot of winter golf events(SOWS,Shasta Series, ext.)?:pullhair:

[Bryon_Harris]

And I take some comfort in the fact that if I don't/can't get into the GNO this year there are a number of other well-run tournaments that are scheduled for Whistler's this year.

Yes there are 3-4 pdga events at whistlers each season and those are the only pdga events in our area. Compare that to the Portland scene.

[mine all mine]

Wouldn't holding spots for qualifying people misrepresent the GNO? It is the Great Northwest Open...not the Great Northwest 2/3 Open. I understand the theory behind holding spots for the hard core winter golfers, but there are many of those that play a winter series in Southern Oregon and Washington as well. Just MY 2cents worth

[Menacewarf]

I guess I could conceive of an argument that one series of golfers should have preferred access to an "open" tourny over another seriers but I sure couldnt articulate it.

[Flash]

I guess I could conceive of an argument that one series of golfers should have preferred access to an "open" tourny over another seriers but I sure couldnt articulate it.

How about you support a TD's efforts and they will reward you with theirs!

Nothing prevents the Southern Oregon Crews, or Central Oregon Crews or Northern Oregon Crews from running any number of events and any course in Oregon. If you want to see an event structured and run your way then get off the couch and do it. No sense in complaining about what someone else is doing.

Why doesn't the Southern Oregon Crew have a yearly PDGA event at Whistlers? Its obvious it will do well and could be a good revenue stream for the club to invest in their local community.

[Hayduke]

Flash is absolutely right. Support the TDs in their efforts and be thankful for all they do. I am.

That being said, I think the issue here, dude, is that the GNO is an event written onto the hearts of so many Oregon disc golfers that the idea of it being proprietary to anybody but the whole does not sit well with many.
I believe that all disc golfers should have an equal chance of getting into this event which, in the past, has been no easy feat even with all spots up for grabs.

Tom and Teresa are showing preference in this respect to PDX golfers who support their local series. If the series is a fundraiser then yes, fine, but if not I think the idea is unfair to all who love the GNO.

[Matt B.]

Flash is absolutely right. Support the TDs in their efforts and be thankful for all they do. I am.

That being said, I think the issue here, dude, is that the GNO is an event written onto the hearts of so many Oregon disc golfers that the idea of it being proprietary to anybody but the whole does not sit well with many.
I believe that all disc golfers should have an equal chance of getting into this event which, in the past, has been no easy feat even with all spots up for grabs.

Tom and Teresa are showing preference in this respect to PDX golfers who support their local series. If the series is a fundraiser then yes, fine, but if not I think the idea is unfair to all who love the GNO.

Bottom line is the TD gets to decide what they want to do with their tournament. It doesn't matter how many years you've played it or how many people love it - it's the TD's tournament, especially if the TD is not running it for a club.

Hasn't there been a few PDGA summer gigs at Whistler's the last few years, put on by the crew down there? Nothing stopping anyone from continuing to do that, make them bigger, better, etc. Personally, I'd rather play a big tournament there during warm weather anyway - the early date this year, combined with the back to back weekends with 3PO are a change from years past.

Things change, TD's can do what they want, and we all love Whistler's!

[scottycb1]

Bottom line is the TD gets to decide what they want to do with their tournament. It doesn't matter how many years you've played it or how many people love it - it's the TD's tournament, especially if the TD is not running it for a club.

Hasn't there been a few PDGA summer gigs at Whistler's the last few years, put on by the crew down there? Nothing stopping anyone from continuing to do that, make them bigger, better, etc. Personally, I'd rather play a big tournament there during warm weather anyway - the early date this year, combined with the back to back weekends with 3PO are a change from years past.

Things change, TD's can do what they want, and we all love Whistler's!



Saving 50 spots for OLE participants, and using the excuse that you reward people that play all winter? Thats a bunch of crap. I know more than a few of us in Southern Oregon that are going to play 15 of more winter tournaments. Between Andrews series and SOWS and shasta, and you reward just portland golfers.. That seems fair.... A little more justification should be in line.

And for anyone up north, the local Roseburg crew does run sanctioned tournaments during the summer as well as the biggest doubles tournament in the state.

Why are we rewarding portland golfers for an event 3 hours south?

[rocer180]

Flash there has been a PDGA event at whistlers ran by southern Oregon golfers the last two years. They were both well ran events that everybody who wanted to get in had the same opportunity. It didn't matter if you spent your time shooting at coffie can tones in a cow pasture or on the beautiful fairways of milo shooting at innova disccatchers.

I'm not attacking anybody or there efforts. ? Is the OLE series and the GNO a part of the same series or just ran by the same people?

Flash to imply that people are sitting on their couches not doing anything and pointing out other disc golf communities in Oregon is a conceited thing to do! could alienate yourself from other golfers at future events.

[Sean Phillips]

How about you support a TD's efforts and they will reward you with theirs!

:cheers:

There are going to be ~100 spots for online registration open for anybody in any area. :cheerleader:

[NoLoPutts]

Seems like the word professional in pdga. Is a loosely used term in the disc golf world. I thought the tourneys were supposed to be first come first get. Not, I got these people I am going to let sign up early and everyone els gets to try later. Good ol nepotism is still rearing it's head!! Lmao!

[NoLoPutts]

Time for another season of who ever has the faster computer gets to play????

[Sean Phillips]

Time for another season of who ever has the faster computer gets to play????

Ya, that's what it looks like.

The resolution to that problem is to recruit more TD's and support the ones we already have so we have more events.

[NoLoPutts]

Ya, that's what it looks like.

The resolution to that problem is to recruit more TD's and support the ones we already have so we have more events.

Or maybe it's time to restructure the way tournaments are run?

[Sean Phillips]

If you want to see an event structured and run your way then get off the couch and do it. No sense in complaining about what someone else is doing.

:biggrin2:

[NoLoPutts]

:biggrin2:

Yah more cooks in the kitchen. That has always worked?

[Sean Phillips]

If courses = kitchens and TD = cooks. We have a lot of kitchens without cooks on any given weekend.

[rocer180]

Flash there has been a PDGA event at whistlers ran by southern Oregon golfers the last two years.:rockon: They were both well ran events that everybody who wanted to get in had the same opportunity.:cool2: It didn't matter if you spent your time shooting at coffie can tones in a cow pasture or on the beautiful fairways of milo shooting at innova disccatchers.:cheers:

I'm not attacking anybody or there efforts.:blush: ? Is the OLE series and the GNO a part of the same series or just ran by the same people?
:cop:
Flash to imply that people are sitting on their couches not doing anything and pointing out other disc golf communities in Oregon is a conceited thing to do! :bricks:could alienate yourself from other golfers at future events.:explode:

[rocer180]

Saving 50 spots for OLE participants, and using the excuse that you reward people that play all winter? Thats a bunch of crap. I know more than a few of us in Southern Oregon that are going to play 15 of more winter tournaments. Between Andrews series and SOWS and shasta, and you reward just portland golfers.. That seems fair.... A little more justification should be in line.

And for anyone up north, the local Roseburg crew does run sanctioned tournaments during the summer as well as the biggest doubles tournament in the state.

Why are we rewarding portland golfers for an event 3 hours south?

GREAT POINT SCOTTY:cool2:

[NoLoPutts]

GREAT POINT SCOTTY:cool2:

Yah good point!! So how many spots are going to saved for the BSF??

[bvdisc]

Can I just say that the drama on the forums is one thing I DEFINITELY don't miss about Oregon golf. If you don't like how a tournament is going to be run then don't play in it. If you think you know a better way then schedule one the next weekend and run it your way. If someone is running a tournament that you don't like, the only cost to you is having the course tied up for a weekend. There is no other expense or bother to your life. It's simply one more thing you can do that weekend.

[NoLoPutts]

Can I just say that the drama on the forums is one thing I DEFINITELY don't miss about Oregon golf. If you don't like how a tournament is going to be run then don't play in it. If you think you know a better way then schedule one the next weekend and run it your way. If someone is running a tournament that you don't like, the only cost to you is having the course tied up for a weekend. There is no other expense or bother to your life. It's simply one more thing you can do that weekend.

"The only travesty worse than the one you have already suffered is your unwillingness to do anything about it." Pud Smith

[Matt B.]

Can I just say that the drama on the forums is one thing I DEFINITELY don't miss about Oregon golf. If you don't like how a tournament is going to be run then don't play in it. If you think you know a better way then schedule one the next weekend and run it your way. If someone is running a tournament that you don't like, the only cost to you is having the course tied up for a weekend. There is no other expense or bother to your life. It's simply one more thing you can do that weekend.

If you don't like how a forum is going to be posted to then don't read it?

J/K! How's it going Ben? How is the disc golf drama where you are?

Seems like this happens every year - people just can't get it through their heads that the TD gets to decide what happens and players can take it, leave it, or TD their own tournament.

["Over the Hill" Bob]

Yah good point!! So how many spots are going to saved for the BSF??

BSF is full! :shocked:

Bob

ps......:biggrin2::biggrin2: j/k :wink2:

[Bryon_Harris]

Seems like this happens every year - people just can't get it through their heads that the TD gets to decide what happens and players can take it, leave it, or TD their own tournament.

Yes but regardless people will be put off at not bring represented. If the protagonists will be so autocratic as to not even want to discuss the issue, then they (you) might as well at least realize that perceived fatalism never goes over well. If the message is "support Portland area disc golf" and a TD wants to stand by that than fine. Others will argue but at least it is honest. To lead instead with "run your own tourney or shutup" (is what I have been hearing at least) is yes, one clear way of thinking.

[Matt B.]

Yes but regardless people will be put off at not bring represented. If the protagonists will be so autocratic as to not even want to discuss the issue, then they (you) might as well at least realize that perceived fatalism never goes over well. If the message is "support Portland area disc golf" and a TD wants to stand by that than fine. Others will argue but at least it is honest. To lead instead with "run your own tourney or shutup" (is what I have been hearing at least) is yes, one clear way of thinking.

If you're looking at me to represent the people running this tournament you're looking in the wrong place. I'm just another player who has less of a chance to get in. I personally think the decision to hold the tournament one week before another tournament, and to hold spots for OLE players is not a great decision. But I'm not under the illusion that Tom gives a crap what I think, or that I have a right to tell him what he "should" do.

I haven't told anyone to shut up, and I don't think anyone else has either. To me it's an "it is what it is" situation, and all the furor is noise. I understand it completely, but as has been stated before, the bottom line is that it's the TD's tournament.

Here's a better thing to consider: what's the big deal about the GNO? Is it the history? The name? Why can't anyone else hold a similar or even better tournament at Whistler's? Is this tournament even a part of a 2011 Oregon Series? IS there even a 2011 Oregon Series?

If so many people are upset every single year about the GNO, who gets in, who is excluded...then why does everyone still want to play it? It's just another tournament. It's not run by a club anymore, it's not run by locals... so what's the big deal? (besides the fact that Whistler's is awesome, the Spring can be nice at the park, and everyone else will be playing?) Like I mentioned upthread, I would much rather play a big tournament there when the weather is warm. Should I start complaining now that someone hasn't made that happen for me?

[the flogging putter]

If you're looking at me to represent the people running this tournament you're looking in the wrong place. I'm just another player who has less of a chance to get in. I personally think the decision to hold the tournament one week before another tournament, and to hold spots for OLE players is not a great decision. But I'm not under the illusion that Tom gives a crap what I think, or that I have a right to tell him what he "should" do.

I haven't told anyone to shut up, and I don't think anyone else has either. To me it's an "it is what it is" situation, and all the furor is noise. I understand it completely, but as has been stated before, the bottom line is that it's the TD's tournament.

Here's a better thing to consider: what's the big deal about the GNO? Is it the history? The name? Why can't anyone else hold a similar or even better tournament at Whistler's? Is this tournament even a part of a 2011 Oregon Series? IS there even a 2011 Oregon Series?

If so many people are upset every single year about the GNO, who gets in, who is excluded...then why does everyone still want to play it? It's just another tournament. It's not run by a club anymore, it's not run by locals... so what's the big deal? (besides the fact that Whistler's is awesome, the Spring can be nice at the park, and everyone else will be playing?) Like I mentioned upthread, I would much rather play a big tournament there when the weather is warm. Should I start complaining now that someone hasn't made that happen for me?

Sorry you have missed out Matt B, but some people already taken care of this for you.

[the flogging putter]

There were 4 great events at Whistler's last year GNO, WBDS, Whistlin' Disc Open, and NUI. There will be 4 more events there this year and only 1 will give preferential treatment to a certain region in Oregon.

[Matt B.]

Sorry you have missed out Matt B, but some people already taken care of this for you.

I haven't missed out on anything. It was a rhetorical question, y'know? I think you guys are doing a great job hosting more gigs at Whistler's, and I'm sure they'll only get bigger and better. Maybe this whole GNO situation will help that happen.

[Flash]

Flash there has been a PDGA event at whistlers ran by southern Oregon golfers the last two years. They were both well ran events that everybody who wanted to get in had the same opportunity. It didn't matter if you spent your time shooting at coffie can tones in a cow pasture or on the beautiful fairways of milo shooting at innova disccatchers.

I'm not attacking anybody or there efforts. ? Is the OLE series and the GNO a part of the same series or just ran by the same people?

Flash to imply that people are sitting on their couches not doing anything and pointing out other disc golf communities in Oregon is a conceited thing to do! could alienate yourself from other golfers at future events.


Both OLE and GNO are run by the same person Tom Embree! And the reason the Great Northwest Open is written onto the hearts of Disc golfers is due to the efforts or Cris Bellinger, Teresa Trueba, Tom Embree and the Eugene Disc Golf Club.

Alienate myself from who? I pointed out the different areas of Oregon that have strong disc golf followings not that they need to get off the couch. These areas each can drive their own events at any course they want and have a strong response from any disc golfer in Oregon. Go back and reread my post. Although even in those areas I mentioned I bet 10 percent are doing 90% of the work of running events.


Its funny how you think that just because the OLE events happen in PDX, which really Trojan disc golf park is not neither is Timber that all Portland area disc golfers are getting a great chance at attending the GNO. There are many, many events, sanctioned and not-sanctioned in the Portland-Vancouver area that unless your life is only disc golf that you could not make them all. I am betting right now that only 1-2% of Portland Disc Golfers would even qualify for the 50 spot exemption.


How many people on this thread have run an event on their own? How many people on this thread even aspire to run an event on their own year after year. When you have run events as long as Teresa and Tom you kind of get to do what you want. Sure what you want may not be the most politically correct but it is what it is. They have their following of players and their event will fill. If you want to play be ready to sign up online when the bell dings!

I too would rather play Whistlers in warmer weather so I can float the river between rounds.

[Jason Philips]

There were 4 great events at Whistler's last year GNO, WBDS, Whistlin' Disc Open, and NUI. There will be 4 more events there this year and only 1 will give preferential treatment to a certain region in Oregon.

I guess this makes the decision of which tournaments to play easier. Tournaments are not a democratic process. People choose a date, they choose a course, and then finally they set the format. The democracy comes in when you decide to play it or not. Entitlement is a b!tch is the easiest thing to say. This tournament is run by the people by organize it not the people who attend it. If 10 people register it is a statement that something is wrong. If it fills up in a day then that probably means the tournament meets the needs of many.

[Jason Philips]

Also for the record I cannot make any of the events in the OLE series and I live in Portland. I am in the running for a spot just like those of you who are not making the drive to Portland.

[Bryon_Harris]

If you're looking at me to represent the people running this tournament you're looking in the wrong place. I'm just another player who has less of a chance to get in. I personally think the decision to hold the tournament one week before another tournament, and to hold spots for OLE players is not a great decision. But I'm not under the illusion that Tom gives a crap what I think, or that I have a right to tell him what he "should" do.

I haven't told anyone to shut up, and I don't think anyone else has either. To me it's an "it is what it is" situation, and all the furor is noise. I understand it completely, but as has been stated before, the bottom line is that it's the TD's tournament.

Your right I put some shit on you which you didn't say. My bad. Sry

[Wes Hansen]

Tournaments are not a democratic process. People choose a date, they choose a course, and then finally they set the format. The democracy comes in when you decide to play it or not. This tournament is run by the people by organize it not the people who attend it. If 10 people register it is a statement that something is wrong. If it fills up in a day then that probably means the tournament meets the needs of many.

Dead on!

Any tourney that fills is a good one. And each that does is a call for someone to step up and run another. In a state as disc crazy as Oregon is, the PDGA should modify distance/tier specs to allow more events.


A June weekend with an A Tier at Milo and a B at Whistler sounds like a weekend of wonderful choices. Or an October C at Pier and another at Dabney at the same time also works. Wouldn't both events fill? I haven't looked it up, but in terms of D-C tier "level" (or above) events, aren't their at least 50-75 being run (currently as PDGA) or potentially (all those 60+ player events being run as weeklies/annuals...) right now?

In the quick decade I've been playing, this sport has BOOMED. Any decently scheduled, properly located, PDGA sanctioned, moderately well-run event will fill. If the economy was better I believe at least 100 PDGA events could be held between Eugene and Vancouver yearly. With a minimum field size of 72. Yes? No?

I think part of the "emotions" here come from the fact that, people who played in the first BSF or the first WBDS (thanks Jesse) now feel frustrated that they don't know if they will be able to play in the next event- unless they have the proper internet/friend access. I think many (me a little) feel they should have a little "better" chance of getting into a given event than some newbie (three or less years +/-) with a fast internet connection.

Blah, blah, blah...

What Jason said.:trophy:

[sassalicious]

From Tom:

I've bee running the OLE series for 20 years. When the Series was in the Eugene area, I had people drive down from Kennewick, WA for every OLE event two years in a row. I had people driving from Portland for every event, from Albany, Salem and Coos Bay for years. People made the drive then, you can make it now. No one is being excluded from this opportunity to sign up. I'm offering an opportunity for anyone to sign up without the need for a fast internet connection. Everyone knows how fast this event fills, so you need to decide if you need to insure you have a fast internet connection, or if you want to do a little driving and play some disc golf and make sure you can claim a spot at GNO. In my opinion, this makes it MORE fair than having spots on-line only.

As of right now, only 13 people have qualified to claim a spot at GNO (not that all of them will), which means there are still plenty of spots left.

How do you guys feel about bidding for a couple spots on ebay? That sounds like a good fundraiser!

[Sean Phillips]

How do you guys feel about bidding for a couple spots on ebay? That sounds like a good fundraiser!

I'm all for it. :rockon:

[the flogging putter]

That would be a great fundraiser and it would be a sweet auction to be a part of.

[Scott]

I think it's a great idea for any tournament that historically fills quickly.

[Flatroc]

From Tom:

I've bee running the OLE series for 20 years. When the Series was in the Eugene area, I had people drive down from Kennewick, WA for every OLE event two years in a row. I had people driving from Portland for every event, from Albany, Salem and Coos Bay for years. People made the drive then, you can make it now. No one is being excluded from this opportunity to sign up. I'm offering an opportunity for anyone to sign up without the need for a fast internet connection. Everyone knows how fast this event fills, so you need to decide if you need to insure you have a fast internet connection, or if you want to do a little driving and play some disc golf and make sure you can claim a spot at GNO. In my opinion, this makes it MORE fair than having spots on-line only.

As of right now, only 13 people have qualified to claim a spot at GNO (not that all of them will), which means there are still plenty of spots left.

How do you guys feel about bidding for a couple spots on ebay? That sounds like a good fundraiser!

To Tom,
Wow, 20 years! That's awesome. :cheers:
It looks like "had" is a key word here.
It's too bad people have stopped attending your series after so many years.
I wonder why that is?
Geez, I'm always looking for ways to make them want to stay home so we're not too packed. :slapface:
So, if anyone plays two gigs you "make sure you can claim a spot"?
That's all we have to do? Any guarantees? :biggrin2:
Thanks!
Yose

[Hayduke]

I was wondering when the entry auctions would start.
I think it is a great idea. Hold the last 2 or 3 or more spots until after the event fills then auction them off on ebay. Everybody wins. More money for the tourney, and the people who win the auction are obviously willing to pay that price so they are better off too. I am interested to see how much these spots will go for.....My guess is about 120 bucks.

[sassalicious]

Teresa here,

I'm hearing that this feels really unfair to the southern Oregon folks, but it's not. Not any more unfair than it is to anyone else. Here is some perspective... we are not running the GNO for you, solely.

This is the Great Northwest Open. That means Oregon, Washington, Idaho, Nor Cal and even Montana. If anything Southern OR golfers get a cherry of a deal. All they have to do is secure a spot, then the weekend of the event, they get to sleep in their own beds if they want, and drive a few minutes to the course before their rounds. Everyone else has to pony up gas money, find pet/child care, pay for a hotel or pack up all the camping gear, and make the trek (hey Seattle, is this a trek?). Hell, they don't even have to worry about running the event!

Some people that want to play this event are not going to get in, and I feel bad about that, like I always do, and it's never fair, no mater how the spots get filled. All of the whining now and later are not going to change that.

We are offering ALL of you an opportunity to not have to play the on-line roulette game and claim a spot. So if you want it, pull together a car pool, find a friend in Portland that you can enjoy a Friday evening or two with, and play a couple of fun rounds of disc golf on courses you don't normally get to play, and then I'll see you at GNO.

Portland disc golfers, if you want, offer your homes to your out of town disc golf friends, enjoy an evening with friends you don't get to see that often and take advantage of this convenient offer before you make the trek down to Roseburg in April.

Are you really enjoying all the worrying over this? Go play some golf and have some fun people.

OLE #4: Feb 5th, Pier Park
OLE #5: March 5th, Stub Stuart (I can't wait for this one!!)

You gotta know how much I really love this sport to deal with all this... It's so much easier to just sit on the sidelines, enjoy what's given to you, and complain when it's not just how you wanted it. All my love to all the TDs that are running events to build this sport and create an amazing disc golf community... I know not all of their voices are being heard here.

[Sean Phillips]

$200+

My guess

[sassalicious]

You all really want to see spots auctioned?

[Bruce]

I think it would be sweet to see spots on Ebay up for bid.

[putter anonymous]

"Where is the incentive for those of us who live on the other side of the mountains? If you want to reward those with tenacity, how about the folks who actually play in snow? Just sayin!"

Yeah snow golf! Yes, we realize we are unable to reward all winter disc golf play, and that's why we are reserving most spots for on-line registration.

If you live on this side of the mountains, this might be just the motivation you were needing to get off the couch and try out some OLE disc golf!

Since I can't make the last two OLE events, but think it is a great way for you guys to raise money for the OLE. I was wondering if I could send you guys entry fees for two events and get one of those spots? :explode:

[Scott]

You all really want to see spots auctioned?

I would say one or two spots at most, but yes.

[Flatroc]

Teresa here,
This is the Great Northwest Open. That means Oregon, Washington, Idaho, Nor Cal and even Montana. If anything Southern OR golfers get a cherry of a deal. All they have to do is secure a spot, then the weekend of the event, they get to sleep in their own beds if they want, and drive a few minutes to the course before their rounds. Everyone else has to pony up gas money, find pet/child care, pay for a hotel or pack up all the camping gear, and make the trek (hey Seattle, is this a trek?).
Actually.......
If a person from Medford traveled to PDX two times, (I didn't google it but,) I'm thinking it would be close to a 1,000 mile round trip trek.
Then they would have to : pony up for gas money, find pet/child care, pay for a hotel, or pack up the camping gear and make the trek TWO times.


To Whistlers Bend, I think Seattle is about a 750 mile round trip which is definitely a trek, but, it's a ONE time trek and these folks are ending up at Whistlers which usually makes the trek worth it. :biggrin2:
.
Sorry, but I don't see any cherry of a deal.

:whistler:'s Rocs

[Sam]

I will be attending the next two OLEs so that I can play in the GNO without worrying about getting in on the online raffle.

I would also like to extend some couch/floor space for anyone who is traveling from out of town and needs a place to crash. Let me know.

:cheers:

[all2common]

What happens if more than fifty people show up at the next two OLE events in hopes of securing a spot to the GNO?

[Bullseye]

What happens if more than fifty people show up at the next two OLE events in hopes of securing a spot to the GNO?

Pistols at dawn.

[DexterHawk]

I think that anyone who wants to run an event in oregon, god forbid a good / popular event should completely ignore all of the online banter about said event.

I am willing to bet that not a single one of the detractors on here have nutted up and actually called tom and as far as I can tell none of you have offered any kind of alternative way for him to achieve the dual goals of promoting his two events. None of you would go to your local grocery store and demand that they put milk on sale this week, or go to your local bar and ask them to relocate to a house next door so it would be more easier for you...

The point is that when you run an event you can run it however you want to... "everyone who wears a pink dress gets to subtract three from there score" if your in charge you can run it however you like.

Growing up in a big family I learned a long time ago that fair and equal are not the same thing. I think that principle works here as well.

Tom is a good guy and has given as much to Oregon disc golf as anyone out there. He deserves respect and civility if nothing else.

Finally when did we start seeing the GNO as a negative entity... they helped pay for a number of the baskets at Whistler's that has allowed the park (which is one of the best courses in the world) to be used for multiple events and built a large player pool willing to travel great distances to play there. It was the same guy who did all that that you all are going after now...

Last thought... I'm rambling

Really last thought... we need to have a state wide teams tournament so we can get a little of this regional animosity out on the course.... I'll captain the Eugene Yupees team!

[all2common]

I don't really see anybody "going after" Tom. I am reading people who are wondering about wisdom of promoting the OLE series with two events to go, and holding GNO spots for that promotion.

[bryan_luoma]

Awesome! I'm looking forward to the 2011 GNO! Like everyone else, I hope that I am able to secure a spot in the event. It is doubtful that I will be able to attend two OLEs this winter, but I am guessing that many will.

Couple Questions:

Will the online registration date/time for the 2011 GNO be announced in advance?

How many players will be allowed in each flight at the GNO, 72, 76, 80?

If 40 of the 50 OLE spots are granted to pro or intermediate players, will that reduce the availability of spots in flight B exclusively?


Thanks!

[Flatroc]

they helped pay for a number of the baskets at Whistler's

Andy,
I think you might have mistaken the GNO with the EDGC.
The EGDC donated hole two, hence the name "BluEugene HighWay".
Others to thank for their gracious contributions are:
Disc Golf Depot
Jay (how ya been) Townsend > Top O' The World :bowing:
Kurt Bayne
UDA
WBDS
TL, J-Low and some college buds I think
Fryday Flippouts

Also bud, nobody wants no dang civil war here.
Hayduke pounded the nail with his first post.
Here's a question... Is this idea really worth the animosity it has created within our disc golf community?
I started playing and running Frisbee/Disc golf gigs in 1985 and yep, TD's should have certain rights to do what they want at times. But I wouldn't even dream of doing something that could piss a bunch of people off.
Well maybe the one Jordan loved/loathed, the 30 hole BAM!
I love all you disc golfers, some just a wee bit more.
Twas gudt to see you mon at Windy!:cheers:
Yose
:biggrin2:

[sassalicious]

Right now there are not 50 people that will be able to claim a spot at the Feb 5th OLE.

Timeline:
> Feb 5th OLE: <50 spots claimed
> Week after: on-line reg
---> once that fills, wait list starts
> March 5th OLE: X more spots are claimed
---> if >50, these folks are added to the wait list
---> if <50, remaining spots applied to to existing wait list

[DexterHawk]

Good to see you too brutha...

And of course I mean nothing personal... Tom is a friend...

It just seems worth mentioning that with the way they get treated, it's no wonder that many TDs decide to quit running events after awhile.

[Bryon_Harris]

Well in the spirit of that I'd like to thank Tom and Teresa for putting on a fun and well run tourney last year, coming specifically from a Southern Oregon golfer. I hope to attend this year and i'm sure it will be a worthwhile event once again!

I'm actually thinking about a couple of long drives (not with a disc) in light of Sass's last post.

[sassalicious]

Thanks Bryon, and all the other golfers trying to keep an open mind about this. We aren't doing this to create turmoil and angst, and while I understand a lot of people like things to stay the same, we are going to give this idea a try. Let's see how it works... if it needs an adjustment next year, we'll do that, it it proves to be an overall bad idea, maybe we'll try something else, or go back to the straight up on-line "raffle". Anyone else have an idea of how we can take (even some of) the "roulette" out of sign-ups? Maybe I'm going the wrong way, maybe we should go all-out luck like how some hunting tags are assigned... you pay to get a ticket for a lottery, your ticket gets pulled, you get to hunt. Of course if you're a top pro, they would say take the top rated players first.

As far as flights go, for several years the flights as posted seem to bring the most balance to the fields; however, division attendance fluctuates year to year and we might need to change the flights up to accommodate the people that sign up. That said, yes, there is only so much room in each flight. So if they stay as they are, and all 50 OLE spots go to Int and Pro players, that would only affect their flight... do I think that is going to happen? probably not.

As far as announcing when on-line reg will open, we will let people know the date and time as soon as we know when that will be.

[the flogging putter]

Since I can't make the last two OLE events, but think it is a great way for you guys to raise money for the OLE. I was wondering if I could send you guys entry fees for two events and get one of those spots? :explode:

Hey sassy

[all2common]

Thanks Bryon, and all the other golfers trying to keep an open mind about this. We aren't doing this to create turmoil and angst, and while I understand a lot of people like things to stay the same, we are going to give this idea a try. Let's see how it works... if it needs an adjustment next year, we'll do that, it it proves to be an overall bad idea, maybe we'll try something else, or go back to the straight up on-line "raffle". Anyone else have an idea of how we can take (even some of) the "roulette" out of sign-ups? Maybe I'm going the wrong way, maybe we should go all-out luck like how some hunting tags are assigned... you pay to get a ticket for a lottery, your ticket gets pulled, you get to hunt. Of course if you're a top pro, they would say take the top rated players first.

As far as flights go, for several years the flights as posted seem to bring the most balance to the fields; however, division attendance fluctuates year to year and we might need to change the flights up to accommodate the people that sign up. That said, yes, there is only so much room in each flight. So if they stay as they are, and all 50 OLE spots go to Int and Pro players, that would only affect their flight... do I think that is going to happen? probably not.

As far as announcing when on-line reg will open, we will let people know the date and time as soon as we know when that will be.

tired...

[SMOKIN JOE]

Haven't read but the first and last post.
Hopefully people are thanking the T.D.'s as well.
Glad my events are small and old school.
I like the idea of having to qualify for a big event. You have to to get into any major tournament. I also like the idea of only current pdga players being to sign up as well in a big event.
This is the pdga. Professional, top rated players should be the goal.
We should have the best players at these big events not the luckiest to get in.
Thanks again to all who have keep this event and this outstanding park going for all these years.

[sassalicious]

Quote:
Originally Posted by putter anonymous
Since I can't make the last two OLE events, but think it is a great way for you guys to raise money for the OLE. I was wondering if I could send you guys entry fees for two events and get one of those spots?
Hey sassy

If you have a question about the event or policies, I suggest you contact Tom directly, but if this was a real question (I read it as an inflammatory jab), then the answer would most likely be... NO

[sassalicious]

Andy is 100% right on with this statement:
"I am willing to bet that not a single one of the detractors on here have nutted up and actually called tom..."

Tom has not received any phone calls, and only one e-mail... He does not visit this "forum" (more like the gossip column). I suggest contacting Tom directly if you have questions or feedback.

[emmarose]

for what it's worth tom and teresa, i was stoked to have an opportunity to sign up for this without having to bribe someone with a computer and decent internet to do it for me and then bite my nails wondering if they did it right... i don't have a computer and only a few minutes here and there where one is available to me, so i appreciate your unorthodox methods... thanks from a girl stuck in the dark ages without internet at her Shack...

[E Smith]

Haven't read but the first and last post.
Hopefully people are thanking the T.D.'s as well.
Glad my events are small and old school.
I like the idea of having to qualify for a big event. You have to to get into any major tournament. I also like the idea of only current pdga players being to sign up as well in a big event.
This is the pdga. Professional, top rated players should be the goal.
We should have the best players at these big events not the luckiest to get in.
Thanks again to all who have keep this event and this outstanding park going for all these years.

Um, wow! I mean WOW! :slapface:

You know Joe, there are some pretty good golfers who aren’t members of the PDGA :trophy: and some really crappy ones who are. :pullhair:

E :cheers:

[putter anonymous]

If you have a question about the event or policies, I suggest you contact Tom directly, but if this was a real question (I read it as an inflammatory jab), then the answer would most likely be... NO

Was not an inflammatory jab! I am sorry that you thought so. :cheers: Tom did answer my ? via email. Everyone go throw some plastic and nearest basket and be happy!

[putter anonymous]

Um, wow! I mean WOW! :slapface:

You know Joe, there are some pretty good golfers who aren’t members of the PDGA :trophy: and some really crappy ones who are. :pullhair:

E :cheers:

Best post of the year so far!:trophy::chug:

[Celeste]

"I am willing to bet that not a single one of the detractors on here have nutted up and actually called tom..."
.

Does my drunk texting you in the middle of the night count? haha.
Went through the sober channels today and actually emailed Tom, but not to bitch.
I can't wait for GNO, and I'm not even going to be playing!:drool:

[sassalicious]

Does my drunk texting you in the middle of the night count? haha.
Went through the sober channels today and actually emailed Tom, but not to bitch.
I can't wait for GNO, and I'm not even going to be playing!:drool:

Hahahaha, it did seem a little drunken ;p I can't wait for fry bread tacos!! Oh I have dreams about them!

[Celeste]

Hahahaha, it did seem a little drunken ;p I can't wait for fry bread tacos
Actually a lot drunken...got into that voyer homebrew pretty hard :)

[Jester]

Um, wow! I mean WOW! :slapface:

You know Joe, there are some pretty good golfers who aren’t members of the PDGA :trophy: and some really crappy ones who are. :pullhair:

E :cheers:

Hey there now Eric......I kinda resemble that comment



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[SMOKIN JOE]

Sorry to express an opinion.
I thought the GNO was a major event worthy of world status.
You would have to be a current pdga member to go to the worlds.
Why not here.
Sorry to offend any good non pdga members by my thoughts for how special it is to get to play the GNO.
And being a current pdga member I'm glad I've qualified for the last 2 worlds that I've attended.
Thankfully they have ameteur divisions.
Otherwise I'd leave it to the Profesionals.
Which is the whole point.
Shouldn't a big event try to to get field the best players.

[Matt B.]

Andy is 100% right on with this statement:
"I am willing to bet that not a single one of the detractors on here have nutted up and actually called tom..."

Tom has not received any phone calls, and only one e-mail... He does not visit this "forum" (more like the gossip column). I suggest contacting Tom directly if you have questions or feedback.

Man, if this is a gossip column how come there's never any good gossip?! You get more gossip in six holes at a tournament than you do here in a year!

For every person who posts here, there are probably 10 who come here to get the information that the TD's want them to get. And for every person who voices a complaint here there are probably another 20 here who vote with their dollars and are long time supporters of events and TD's.

I don't think the forum's the problem really - it's a great resource for the community as a whole, players and TD's, and it's provided free of charge. :yay:

[Bryon_Harris]

Man, if this is a gossip column how come there's never any good gossip?! You get more gossip in six holes at a tournament than you do here in a year!

For every person who posts here, there are probably 10 who come here to get the information that the TD's want them to get. And for every person who voices a complaint here there are probably another 20 here who vote with their dollars and are long time supporters of events and TD's.

I don't think the forum's the problem really - it's a great resource for the community as a whole, players and TD's, and it's provided free of charge. :yay:

+1. Well put

[sassalicious]

I agree the idea of the forum as a way to hold discussions and disseminate information is a good one; however, the way it gets used by a few leaves much to be desired IMO. While most people seem to use it wisely and with respect, a few folks like to indulge in creating an overly hostile, and sometimes slanderous atmosphere. For me it's like throwing a turd in the punchbowl... it might have been REALLY good punch, but now it's ruined for me!

[snap7times]

hey hey hey no worries sassy, *scooping turd out, washing off spoon, stirrrr really good punch* all is good now, *scoops punch into cup* here you go, yummmm... can't wait to cyberbattle to register for a spot to GNO!

[jevon]

No. Really. All the big chunks are out!

[Matt B.]

I agree the idea of the forum as a way to hold discussions and disseminate information is a good one; however, the way it gets used by a few leaves much to be desired IMO. While most people seem to use it wisely and with respect, a few folks like to indulge in creating an overly hostile, and sometimes slanderous atmosphere. For me it's like throwing a turd in the punchbowl... it might have been REALLY good punch, but now it's ruined for me!

Well great, now the whole internet is ruined! :puke:

[Sam]

Man, if this is a gossip column how come there's never any good gossip?! You get more gossip in six holes at a tournament than you do here in a year!

For every person who posts here, there are probably 10 who come here to get the information that the TD's want them to get. And for every person who voices a complaint here there are probably another 20 here who vote with their dollars and are long time supporters of events and TD's.

I don't think the forum's the problem really - it's a great resource for the community as a whole, players and TD's, and it's provided free of charge. :yay:Just an FYI....

NWDiscGolfNews.com IS looking for a good press agent. :whistler:

[Bryon_Harris]

Well great, now the whole internet is ruined! :puke:

My research suggests the Internet has been corrupted since at least the mid 90's. Prior to that I can only speculate.

[Jason Philips]

You all mean to tell me that not everything posted on the internet is true? Next thing you know someone will tell me the easter bunny isn't real either.

[sassalicious]

Well great, now the whole internet is ruined! :puke:

Hahahaha! That cracked me up! Thx

[purediscgolf]

Hey Everyone,
Just got off the phone with Tom about the GNO. Yes it is happening. Yes there will be a rush to register. Yes we all know how fun this event is. Yes I will be going for my 3rd GNO win in a row :biggrin2: hehehehehe

oh, BTW. Cary Trotter is coming from the great state of Nevada. He has some confidence at Whistler's as we have the Doubles Record of -14 :rockon:

Get off the computer and go do something fun today :cheers: Like throwing plastic at metal:trophy:

[sassalicious]

Alright everyone, here's the skinny...

The plan is that on-line registration will go live on PDGA sign-up on Friday Feb 25th at 8:00 pm Pacific Time.

Please pass the word... I know not all disc golfers are reading the forum.

[LegoRules]

Alright everyone, here's the skinny...

The plan is that on-line registration will go live on PDGA sign-up on Friday Feb 25th at 8:00 pm Pacific Time.

Please pass the word... I know not all disc golfers are reading the forum.

Does this mean there are no spots left to be claimed at the Stub OLE?

Cindy :)

[the flogging putter]

sweet I can't wait!

[sassalicious]

Hi Cindy. No it doesn't. The two pools of spots to claim are still separate until after the OLE at Stub, as explained in an earlier post.

[scottycb1]

when is reg?

[Sam]

Alright everyone, here's the skinny...

The plan is that on-line registration will go live on PDGA sign-up on Friday Feb 25th at 8:00 pm Pacific Time.

Please pass the word... I know not all disc golfers are reading the forum.

Wow... there it is in black and white... All one has to do is... read... :headbang:

[Hayduke]

Yes I could probably find the answer by trawling through previous threads etc. However, a quick search on pdga.com didn't answer this question:
If I am not planning on renewing with the PDGA can I still play the GNO, with a 10 dollar add-on fee?
Thanks in advance.

[loki]

Wow... there it is in black and white... All one has to do is... read... :headbang:

Yes, but when is registration?


:)

[Sausage Fingers]

Yes I could probably find the answer by trawling through previous threads etc. However, a quick search on pdga.com didn't answer this question:
If I am not planning on renewing with the PDGA can I still play the GNO, with a 10 dollar add-on fee?
Thanks in advance.

Well, since the PDGA website has the tourney listed as a B-Tier tourney, then the answer would be yes. Only A-Tier tourneys require you to be a PDGA member to enter. So unless the site is wrong or they change it to an A-Tier, you can sign up to play the GNO and pay the $10 Non-PDGA member fee.

***DISCLAIMER*** I am not the TD and do not represent the TD of this event ***DISCLAIMER***

:pirate:

[sassalicious]

On-Line Reg will be going live tonight (Friday 2/25) at 8:00 pm Pacific time.

Link for sign-up: http://www.pdgasignup.com/Qstore/Qstore.cgi?CMD=011&PROD=1298412432

If you have questions for Tom, please call him directly at 360-314-2495.

Pass the word!

Good luck!
t

[sassalicious]

If you go back to the first page of this string, the very first post should host the answers to most of your questions. Any questions you may have for the TD can best be directed to Tom directly at 360-314-2495.

Thank you Jordan, your assertation is correct. the GNO is a B-tier for all divisions this year (as stated in that first post) and therefore does not require you to be a PDGA member, you'll just need to pay the extra $10 fee if you are not.

["Over the Hill" Bob]

get the servers warmed up, almost time.................. who's in/who's out? Let the games begin! :trophy:

Bob

[breiner]

Registration has been turned on.

Breiner
1-888-596-9347

[Matt B.]

Registration has been turned on.

Breiner
1-888-596-9347

BAM! I'm in. :)

[Bruce]

Shoot only 19 people in the first 3 minutes? You slackers!

[geo_ducks]

Dexter dogs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Jester]

IN :)

[Matt B.]

Shoot only 19 people in the first 3 minutes? You slackers!

Yeah, who says these things fill fast? Oh, it's 26 in five minutes.

[chainsmasher]

KAPOW, I am in there! Hopefully the weather will be as nice as it was last year, stoked for the best tourney of the year!!!

[Bryon_Harris]

Forgot for 15 min, then flounderd remembering my pdga password for another 15 and still got in easy.

[Flash]

Forgot for 15 min, then flounderd remembering my pdga password for another 15 and still got in easy.

Looks like you are just that good! Looks like it is slowing down a little but I bet it will pick up as soon as people realize that its open and their poker games ends!

[Bryon_Harris]

Looks like you are just that good! Looks like it is slowing down a little but I bet it will pick up as soon as people realize that its open and their poker games ends!

"Better lucky than good," would be the axiom which i think would
fit in this case.

I guess it was nice to see that beyond all the banter, one did not have to have the proverbial finger on the trigger to get in.

[Matt B.]

"Better lucky than good," would be the axiom which i think would
fit in this case.

I guess it was nice to see that beyond all the banter, one did not have to have the proverbial finger on the trigger to get in.

I don't see much reason for people to complain this year. Plenty of advance notice for online registration at 8 p.m., chance to reserve a spot in advance if you could play the OLE's, and plenty of spots still available two hours later. I know we've got a compressed timeline now on the registration, but this is well known, and you did not need to have super fast connection to get in. :yay:

[sassalicious]

looks like there was a lot of worry over what ended up not being a huge deal. There are still 25 spots on line and it's a little over 2 hours since registration opened on line.

Cheers!

[Darr]

I am going to have to miss this one. :( Almost 5 years in a row...
It's cool though, I've got to stay close to the bun in the oven. :biggrin2::rockon::biggrin2:

[Joshua Olmsted]

Well it's been five years since I've attended but it looks like I'm Whistler's bound this year.

[purediscgolf]

Can't wait to get back to Whistler's to go after my 5th GNO Title!!:trophy: I always show up on Thursday to get an epic/long practice round in. Not so many people to contend with showing up for Camp Spots etc......Don't go taking a page from my book though.....:nono:.....I would hate to have to throw a Thursday Doubles Round together.....:laughing::rockon:

Whistler's BABY!!!:cheers:

[mazza]

.Don't go taking a page from my book though.....:nono:.....I would hate to have to throw a Thursday Doubles Round together.....:laughing::rockon:

Whistler's BABY!!!:cheers:

yeah i sooo sure that would just break ur heart huh

[essjay]

Hey Sassy, Is there a wait list that will be started for GNO? Josh broke his collarbone and didn't think he'd be ready to play but now thinks he might be okay. I'd like to get him on a list for something if you're going to be accepting those entries. Thanks. sj

[TreeLove]

Hey Sassy, Is there a wait list that will be started for GNO? Josh broke his collarbone and didn't think he'd be ready to play but now thinks he might be okay. I'd like to get him on a list for something if you're going to be accepting those entries. Thanks. sj

Ouch, I've done that, snowboarding? Anyone ever played Crystal Caliburn (awesome video pinball)? I was Crystal Collarbone to my friends! :laughing:

Anyway, it only hurts like hell to tie your shoes, zip your pants, open your car door, play disc golf for 6 months. Thankfully, there's no medical treatment, other than a sling. REST, my friend, is they key. And left-handed play!

I played 6 months at Lunchtime left-handed, had no choice, tendinitis from a too-big thumber without adequate stretching. Got 2 aces, lefty, while doing it! Hang in there.

[essjay]

Not snowboarding; bicycling. :shocked: Actually he did have to have surgery. They had to put a plate in it because the two ends of the bone were so far apart and splintered. :puke: It's his left arm so he thinks he might beready to play by then. Anyway, Tom emailed me and said he's on the wait list. Thanks!

[the flogging putter]

:whistler:'s

[sassalicious]

Hi All,

If you would like to get on the wait list, or have registration questions, please contact Tom directly. He is handling this list and is your best and fastest source of information.

TD contact info
Tom Embree
360.314.2495
crushthecourse@hotmail.com

[sassalicious]

Remember that the group camp areas have not been reserved for the event until Friday night. You can always camp in the individual sights Thursday night, and move over to the group sight Friday if that is where you want to camp the rest of the weekend.

Thanks!
t

[Flatroc]

Remember that the group camp areas have not been reserved for the event until Friday night. You can always camp in the individual sights Thursday night, and move over to the group sight Friday if that is where you want to camp the rest of the weekend.

Thanks!
t

just a friendly reminder.....
IF enough people want to camp in the group camping on Thursday night, you can call 541 440 4500 to make reservations. :wink2:

[LegoRules]

Registration list is up :yay:

http://www.pdga.com/tournament_results/64830

[purediscgolf]

I can't wait for the GNO this year. It's been far too long since I've been out to Whistler's. Remember, I'm out there on Thursday morning for anyone who'd like to come out and play dubs or mess around.

Does anyone know why Nate and Dion won't be there this year? I wonder if they just missed out on the registration push? (it took almost 24 hours this year, come on people we can fill it quicker than that :dancing:) In any case it's sure to be an awesome field with many old friends I don't see a lot. Thanks for all the hard-work Tom and T-Bell!!:chug:

[Nate Sexton]

Hey Drew,
I think big D will be on tour and I missed it just due to being in Vegas and my shoulder hurting. I'd love to get on a waitlist as I think I will be healthy by then but I am sure my chances are slim now. Good luck to everybody!
Nate

[sassalicious]

Just wanted to let you all know that there are a few spots becoming available for the GNO on-line tonight (Thursday 3/17) at 8:00pm. Please spread the word to any of your friends that haven't gotten in yet.

Summary:
a few more GNO spots available
8:00 pm Thursday (3/17)

http://www.pdgasignup.com/Qstore/Qstore.cgi?CMD=011&PROD=1298412432

get 'em while they're fresh!

Cheers!
t-bree

[Matt B.]

Just wanted to let you all know that there are a few spots becoming available for the GNO on-line tonight (Thursday 3/17) at 8:00pm. Please spread the word to any of your friends that haven't gotten in yet.

Summary:
a few more GNO spots available
8:00 pm Thursday (3/17)

http://www.pdgasignup.com/Qstore/Qstore.cgi?CMD=011&PROD=1298412432

get 'em while they're fresh!

Cheers!
t-bree

According to the reg link on pdga.com there are still spots available....no reason anyone couldn't get in this year!

[hansell69]

According to the reg link on pdga.com there are still spots available....no reason anyone couldn't get in this year!

I signed up and haven't been added to the list. I was curious when they where going to up date it. If anyone knows please let me know. Thank u

[Huk'nGeiks]

Yeah, I got in! (I think) I signed up via the link on 3/18 but haven't been added to the reg list on PDGA.com Also curious when they are going to update it.

Real excited to play whistlers!

[Celeste]

Important food announcement! (Not an official GNWO announcement)

The Chick Flick will be having a food booth all weekend at Great Northwest Open!
The Voyers will be making their delicious frybread tacos again ($5/works $2 cinn./sugar).
We’ll have cold extract coffee ($1) hot in the morning as well as Rockstars ($2), Gatorades ($1.50), and other drinks ($1million) available.

We’ll have food available Friday night when you get in
Saturday we will serve Breakfast, Lunch, and Dinner
Sunday we will serve Breakfast and Lunch
Friday and Saturday we’ll have a late night bread fry up to cure your midnight munchies.

All of the money raised will go to The Chick Flick women’s tournament Aug. 13-14th at Horning’s Hideout.
Please help support women’s disc golf and enjoy some great food that you don’t have to cook!:rockon:

[emmarose]

Important food announcement! (Not an official GNWO announcement)

The Chick Flick will be having a food booth all weekend at Great Northwest Open!
The Voyers will be making their delicious frybread tacos again ($5/works $2 cinn./sugar).
We’ll have cold extract coffee ($1) hot in the morning as well as Rockstars ($2), Gatorades ($1.50), and other drinks ($1million) available.

We’ll have food available Friday night when you get in
Saturday we will serve Breakfast, Lunch, and Dinner
Sunday we will serve Breakfast and Lunch
Friday and Saturday we’ll have a late night bread fry up to cure your midnight munchies.

All of the money raised will go to The Chick Flick women’s tournament Aug. 7-8th at Horning’s Hideout.
Please help support women’s disc golf and enjoy some great food that you don’t have to cook!:rockon:


don't you mean August 13th-14th???

[LegoRules]

don't you mean August 13th-14th???

Yes she does. :slapface:

Cindy :)

[the flogging putter]

Important food announcement! (Not an official GNWO announcement)

The Chick Flick will be having a food booth all weekend at Great Northwest Open!
The Voyers will be making their delicious frybread tacos again ($5/works $2 cinn./sugar).
We’ll have cold extract coffee ($1) hot in the morning as well as Rockstars ($2), Gatorades ($1.50), and other drinks ($1million) available.

We’ll have food available Friday night when you get in
Saturday we will serve Breakfast, Lunch, and Dinner
Sunday we will serve Breakfast and Lunch
Friday and Saturday we’ll have a late night bread fry up to cure your midnight munchies.

All of the money raised will go to The Chick Flick women’s tournament Aug. 7-8th at Horning’s Hideout.
Please help support women’s disc golf and enjoy some great food that you don’t have to cook!:rockon:

I wish we had something like this at the doubles.:)

[Captain Save-A-Ho]

I am working out travel plans from Portland down to Whistlers sometime Thursday afternoon, and was wondering if anyone needs a ride and would like to ride with me. It is a long enough drive that going alone is no fun. If anyone is interested please drop me a pm or email (dmz668@yahoo.com)

[Celeste]

don't you mean August 13th-14th???

Oops! I just copy and pasted from last years post. Fixed it.

[Skookum]

I signed up and haven't been added to the list. I was curious when they where going to up date it. If anyone knows please let me know. Thank u

Yea I signed myself and my dad up when spots became available over a week ago. Money is gone from my account but I still don't see our names. I am coming down from WA so It would be great to get a confirmation that my dad and I are signed up. So we can get ready.

Morgan Rothrock
Ray Rothrock

[Sausage Fingers]

Yea I signed myself and my dad up when spots became available over a week ago. Money is gone from my account but I still don't see our names. I am coming down from WA so It would be great to get a confirmation that my dad and I are signed up. So we can get ready.

Morgan Rothrock
Ray Rothrock

Then you should probably call/e-mail the TD directly to confirm as he is rarely on this forum.

:pirate:

[JMan]

I got in, going to round out the Adv. Grand Masters, going to be one heck of a fun party....can't wait.

[Huk'nGeiks]

Then you should probably call/e-mail the TD directly to confirm as he is rarely on this forum.

:pirate:

Does anyone have Tom's contact info (ie. phone number)? I've sent him a couple emails over the last week via PDGA and have not heard back. I'd really like to make sure I've been registered for the event. PM me please, thanks

[Sausage Fingers]

Does anyone have Tom's contact info (ie. phone number)? I've sent him a couple emails over the last week via PDGA and have not heard back. I'd really like to make sure I've been registered for the event. PM me please, thanks

Maybe if you checked the very first post of this thread you might just find all the info that you are looking for...

Of course that would mean you'd actually have to do some of the work yourself instead of expecting people to just hand you what you need because you took 5 seconds to post here...just sayin':whistler:

:pirate:

[the flogging putter]

Of course that would mean you'd actually have to do some of the work yourself instead of expecting people to just hand you what you need because you took 5 seconds to post here...just sayin':whistler:

:pirate:[/QUOTE]

It seems that if you ask questions about the GNO there is always someone with a reply like this. Just sayin'

[Sausage Fingers]

Of course that would mean you'd actually have to do some of the work yourself instead of expecting people to just hand you what you need because you took 5 seconds to post here...just sayin':whistler:

:pirate:

It seems that if you ask questions about the GNO there is always someone with a reply like this. Just sayin'

nope, that's just me. i get the emails when people post to this thread or the CSI thread and you'll see almost the same post in both places...so it isn't this thread particularly, just me being an ass like usual...:cheers:

:pirate:

[chainsmasher]

YEAAAH GNO!!! I am getting excited...man I hope we luck out and get last year's weather. Everyone playing in this needs to repeat this mantra all next week; SUN SUN SUN SUN SUN SUN

[the flogging putter]

nope, that's just me. i get the emails when people post to this thread or the CSI thread and you'll see almost the same post in both places...so it isn't this thread particularly, just me being an ass like usual...:cheers:

:pirate:

Why do you get emails when someone posts on them? Is this something you choose to be notified about.

[Huk'nGeiks]

Maybe if you checked the very first post of this thread you might just find all the info that you are looking for...


Thanks for this part Sausage, much appreciated

[Sausage Fingers]

Thanks for this part Sausage, much appreciated

You are welcome, sorry for being such an ass. It can be daunting to get information from a thread with 4 pages of posts, but you can usually find good info on the first post regardless.:cheers:

:pirate:

[Mayumoogy]

Hey I signed up online and remember a spot for camping being like 5 dollars a night... well at the time I was like I can sleep in my car somewhere, I can sleep anywhere! HA! After my first tournament out of town where I tossed and turned until 3 am I can safely say that sleeping in my car for 3 nights is not an option! Is it too late to get in on this camping stuff, or can I just pay the fee once I'm there and throw up a tent?

Thanks for the info

[Flash]

Hey I signed up online and remember a spot for camping being like 5 dollars a night... well at the time I was like I can sleep in my car somewhere, I can sleep anywhere! HA! After my first tournament out of town where I tossed and turned until 3 am I can safely say that sleeping in my car for 3 nights is not an option! Is it too late to get in on this camping stuff, or can I just pay the fee once I'm there and throw up a tent?

Thanks for the info

Yes pay when you check in, Tom will find you if you don't!

[Jim J]

Remember that the group camp areas have not been reserved for the event until Friday night. You can always camp in the individual sights Thursday night, and move over to the group sight Friday if that is where you want to camp the rest of the weekend.

Thanks!
t

Teresa, bless her heart, was wrong about this!

I just called the park and there is NO camping in the park on Thursday night. The park camping is CLOSED until Friday 4/15.

Now someone did reserve one of the group sites on Thursday. Maybe a disc golfer? The lady at the reservation desk said she made a mistake and rented it to them.

If someone on this board rented one of the group sites I'd be very interested in subletting a small chunk of acreage for Thursday night.

PM me.

[Flatroc]

Teresa, bless her heart, was wrong about this!

I just called the park and there is NO camping in the park on Thursday night. The park camping is CLOSED until Friday 4/15.

Now someone did reserve one of the group sites on Thursday. Maybe a disc golfer? The lady at the reservation desk said she made a mistake and rented it to them.

If someone on this board rented one of the group sites I'd be very interested in subletting a small chunk of acreage for Thursday night.

PM me.

Jimmy and all concerned:
I just called the park (a different number Jim :wink2:), and was told that I could tell all of you that the lower campground will be open on Thursday, April 14th.
:whistler:'s ROCS

[Jim J]

Jimmy and all concerned:
I just called the park (a different number Jim :wink2:), and was told that I could tell all of you that the lower campground will be open on Thursday, April 14th.
:whistler:'s ROCS

Now that's a stunning turn of events!

Thanks Steve.

Looking forward to shooting a few rounds with you this weekend.

JJ

[purediscgolf]

Thanks for the update Yose. I was heading down on Thursday morning intent on camping....Hope to see everyone bright and early :)

ps. Who's floating the river with me this year? :wink2::biggrin2:

[JMan]

Time to start thinking about bringing cross country skis...

[Flatroc]

Looking forward to shooting a few rounds with you this weekend.JJ

With 5 of us in our division, we should get a chance.
Maybe even have a 5'some?

[Sausage Fingers]

With 5 of us in our division, we should get a chance.
Maybe even have a 5'some?

And start all of your rounds on hole 14...:whistler:

Looking forward to shootin the shite with ya this weekend Yose!:cheers:

:pirate:

[Flatroc]

And start all of your rounds on hole 14...:whistler:

Looking forward to shootin the shite with ya this weekend Yose!:cheers:

:pirate:

I would luff to start at the top of that widdle hill.
While there aren't as many 'shite's to shoot' at Whistlers these days, I'm also looking forward to the chance. :shooting:

[Sausage Fingers]

I would luff to start at the top of that widdle hill.
While there aren't as many 'shite's to shoot' at Whistlers these days, I'm also looking forward to the chance. :shooting:

I, too, am looking forward to standing on top of the world again...:bowing:

The walk up, not so much.:angel:

See ya this weekend!


:pirate:

[Celeste]

Just another reminder as people start packing their cooler and heading out tomorrow! We'll be bringing some extra large tents to eat under and tables just in case it...I won't even say it.

The Chick Flick will be having a food booth all weekend at Great Northwest Open!
The Voyers will be making their delicious frybread tacos again ($5/works $2 cinn./sugar).
We’ll have cold extract coffee ($1) hot in the morning as well as Rockstars ($2), Gatorades ($1.50), and other drinks ($1million) available.

We’ll have food available Friday night when you get in
Saturday we will serve Breakfast, Lunch, and Dinner
Sunday we will serve Breakfast and Lunch
Friday and Saturday we’ll have a late night bread fry up to cure your midnight munchies.

All of the money raised will go to The Chick Flick women’s tournament Aug. 13-14th at Horning’s Hideout.
Please help support women’s disc golf and enjoy some great food that you don’t have to cook!

[LegoRules]

Just another reminder as people start packing their cooler and heading out tomorrow! We'll be bringing some extra large tents to eat under and tables just in case it...I won't even say it.

The Chick Flick will be having a food booth all weekend at Great Northwest Open!
The Voyers will be making their delicious frybread tacos again ($5/works $2 cinn./sugar).
We’ll have cold extract coffee ($1) hot in the morning as well as Rockstars ($2), Gatorades ($1.50), and other drinks ($1million) available.

We’ll have food available Friday night when you get in
Saturday we will serve Breakfast, Lunch, and Dinner
Sunday we will serve Breakfast and Lunch
Friday and Saturday we’ll have a late night bread fry up to cure your midnight munchies.

All of the money raised will go to The Chick Flick women’s tournament Aug. 13-14th at Horning’s Hideout.
Please help support women’s disc golf and enjoy some great food that you don’t have to cook!

YUM frybread :drool: We will also have some of last years fundraiser champion katanas, rubber wood rocs, some Chick Flick patches, and a few other items for sale at the booth too. :rockon:

Cindy :)

[Joshua Olmsted]

I'll just say it right now, I'm might end up broke at the end of the weekend after all the frybread.

[Sausage Fingers]

I'll just say it right now, I'm might end up broke at the end of the weekend after all the frybread.

But you'll be happy and full!:jumpspin:

:pirate:

[Shaolintrained]

I know there's probably some place that I can find this info, but it's for a buddy and I'm lacking in time...Are there still spots open in the pro division?

[bryan_luoma]

I know there's probably some place that I can find this info, but it's for a buddy and I'm lacking in time...Are there still spots open in the pro division?

Your buddy is even a bigger slacker than you are. :laughing:

According to the official registration list, flight A and flight B both consist of 80 registered players.

[Shaolintrained]

Your buddy is even a bigger slacker than you are. :laughing:

According to the official registration list, flight A and flight B both consist of 80 registered players.

If that's how you see it. My buddy just found out that his son's mom will have him that weekend & he has a chance, hopefully, at playing. As for myself, I signed up within 5 mins of registration; and have more important things to do than hang out in front of a cpu screen longer than I have to.

On a side note, I'm waiting to be conacted back from Tom; because, "According to the official registration list, flight A and flight B both consist of 80 registered players.", doesn't help me much.

[bryan_luoma]

If that's how you see it. My buddy just found out that his son's mom will have him that weekend & he has a chance, hopefully, at playing. As for myself, I signed up within 5 mins of registration; and have more important things to do than hang out in front of a cpu screen longer than I have to.

On a side note, I'm waiting to be conacted back from Tom; because, "According to the official registration list, flight A and flight B both consist of 80 registered players.", doesn't help me much.

:yawn:

Hopefully your message to Tom said: "Please add my buddy to the bottom of the wait-list for MPO."

[Shaolintrained]

Hopefully your message to Tom said: "Please add my buddy to the bottom of the wait-list for MPO."

See?! Now that it a comment that helps me out a bit. Than...nevermind.

[CarlitosBonitos]

See?! Now that it a comment that helps me out a bit. Than...nevermind.

Who in the heck are you talking about... pro player... ???

[emmarose]

packingpackingpacking!!!

pop-up, french press, head lamp, knee socks, extra shoes, SUNSCREEN, umbrella, bananas, yazi...

... i'm soooooo in my happy place right now...

p.s. oh, yeah... discs...

[Bruce]

Yeah don't be like me last year...Get to Roseburg and realize you left your cooler and clothes sitting on the front porch, but at least I packed my plastic!

[TreeLove]

packingpackingpacking!!!

pop-up, french press, head lamp, knee socks, extra shoes, SUNSCREEN, umbrella, bananas, yazi...

... i'm soooooo in my happy place right now...

p.s. oh, yeah... discs...

Great post, I'm right there with you, (well, I had to Google yazi though!)

["Over the Hill" Bob]

packingpackingpacking!!!

pop-up, french press, head lamp, knee socks, extra shoes, SUNSCREEN, umbrella, bananas, yazi...

... i'm soooooo in my happy place right now...

p.s. oh, yeah... discs...

You forgot to pack Bob! Dang it, left behind again. Have fun kiddo! :cheers:

Bob

[Skookum]

packing...?

pretty sure your not supposed to do that until about an hour before you get picked up

[chris7graham]

Good luck to everyone have a great weekend.:seeya:

[Bullseye Disc Golf.com]

Well,

Who won this thing? Scores please?

[Dr. Zaius]

Well,

Who won this thing? Scores please?

i heard through grape vine that scott withers won, with sexton coming in second. i also heard that it was WET, but still, an extremely fun time. :whistler:

[Bryon_Harris]

Yep Scotty won. I think he shot a ten down for the weekend (4,2,4). Congrats to all winners. Specially proud of SOWS golfers for taking 1st place in MPO, MA1, and MA2. Fun weekend. Thanx td's and volunteers.

[emmarose]

Well,

Who won this thing? Scores please?

haha. awards didn't get done til dark and the td's still in a yurt, probably...

teresa took first in FPO... watched that girl bomb some drives that most dudes would be jealous of... and i'm still speechless from her insanely beautiful & accurate & acrobatic upshots...

[Flatroc]

Well,

Who won this thing? Scores please?

IMO.........10 under after 54 holes with some of the best in the state.
WHISTLERS WON! :whistler: :shooting: :rockon:


open > Scotty "CB" Withers
masters > Jeff Haggerty
grand masters > Mike (check his ID) Ward
advanced > Dillon (is on the) Hunt
amateur > Keith Enos

[emmarose]

also cindy mcmahan battled for the win in advanced women!

go flight crew!!!

[Sean Phillips]

IMO.........10 under after 54 holes with some of the best in the state.
WHISTLERS WON! :whistler: :shooting: :rockon:

I agree. The weather+whistlers=very challenging :headbang:

[Sam]

Advanced Masters: Jesse Grasseth.

["Over the Hill" Bob]

Advanced Masters: Jesse Grasseth.

When's that guy gonna move up? :wink2:

Congrats Jesse!:trophy:

Bob

[Sam]

His first PDGA win, actually. MANY congratulations are in order as he played a phenomenal weekend of golf for the win.

[Sausage Fingers]

His first PDGA win, actually. MANY congratulations are in order as he played a phenomenal weekend of golf for the win.

So true, his play was inspiring.:yay: I had a great time all weekend long even with all the drama and the plans changing every five seconds.

Second round on Saturday that finished after 8pm was one of the most trying rounds I've played in competition. But no course can compare to :whistler:'s even while beating you down.

Great job on the new signs some of the best I've seen. Thanks to the kids who found my disc down the backside gully on hole 9, enjoy the fiver.:bowing:

I have to get back down there more this year.

:pirate:

[Flash]

IMO.........10 under after 54 holes with some of the best in the state.
WHISTLERS WON! :whistler: :shooting: :rockon:


open > Scotty "CB" Withers
masters > Jeff Haggerty
grand masters > Mike (check his ID) Ward
advanced > Dillon (is on the) Hunt
amateur > Keith Enos

I would say it was more the weather and after this weekend Whistlers needs a break from the rain and some warmer weather. In the end I would say Whistlers took a beating but kept it interesting. Sure the scores are not as low as last year but the damage to the course will be evident for months to come.

When are you guys going to work with parks and dig a french drain or culvert on Hole 1 already? The damage on that hole during the wetter months seems to get worse every year.

[the flogging putter]

I would say it was more the weather and after this weekend Whistlers needs a break from the rain and some warmer weather. In the end I would say Whistlers took a beating but kept it interesting. Sure the scores are not as low as last year but the damage to the course will be evident for months to come.

When are you guys going to work with parks and dig a french drain or culvert on Hole 1 already? The damage on that hole during the wetter months seems to get worse every year.

I wish it was that easy but it is not. I have been talking about this for a couple of years. The actually work is the easy part. Almost as easy as asking this question. Ball rolling! Thanks flash.

[putter anonymous]

I wish it was that easy but it is not. I have been talking about this for a couple of years. The actually work is the easy part. Almost as easy as asking this question. Ball rolling! Thanks flash.

Nothing will ever change on hole one, the county considers it a wet land and no colvert or french drain will be put in there. The course looks bad now, but it is red clay, and spring time the grass will come right back and the course will be looking great by the doubles! No thanks to josh, he will make spencer and myself do all the work to fix it up.

[Bullseye]

http://i.imgur.com/UlfZB.jpg

:D:D:D

[Scott]

http://i.imgur.com/UlfZB.jpg

:D:D:D

:rockon:

[Huk'nGeiks]

http://i.imgur.com/UlfZB.jpg

:D:D:D

Hahaha :bowing: yep...

[scottycb1]

Hahaha :bowing: yep...

that is awesome, and some results would be nice, excited to see round ratings

[LegoRules]

that is awesome, and some results would be nice, excited to see round ratings



Me too excited to see results, but not so much my ratings. :slapface:

Cindy :)

[putter anonymous]

Hahaha :bowing: yep...
where is the damn like button? ohhh that facebook sorry sam
! maybe a good idea.:cheers::nahnah:

[emmarose]

http://i.imgur.com/UlfZB.jpg

:D:D:D

genius.

and i second that emotion.

[Bullseye]

Given my earlier.. uhh... post.

I wanted to be sure to be the first to say "Thank you Teresa for posting the results!!!!" Woohoo!

[bryan_luoma]

Sunday morning (pro): 51 = 1019
Sunday noontime (am): 51 = 992
Sunday afternoon (pro): 51 = 1002

?:chinscratch:

[Sam]

Bryan, it all has to do with who is on the course at the same time. Higher rated players on the course with you will generally result in your round ratings being higher.

[bryan_luoma]

Bryan, it all has to do with who is on the course at the same time. Higher rated players on the course with you will generally result in your round ratings being higher.

Yeah, thanks Sam!

Here is a snippet from the PDGA FAQ:

"The scores thrown by propagators each round are used to calculate the SSA rating for a specific course layout. A propagator is a current member whose rating is over 799 and is based on at least 8 rounds. As long as there are 5 propagators playing a course layout, ratings can be calculated. The average rating of all propagators will equal the average rating they get for the round – always. If the same course layout is used more than one round, the scores from multiple rounds will be used to determine an overall SSA, as long as the individual round SSAs come out close to each other, so everyone gets the same rating for the same score on the same course. If the SSAs are significantly different, likely due to varying wind conditions, the round ratings will be calculated separately. If a propagator shoots more than 60 points below their rating, their score will not be used in the SSA calculations."

[Scott]

Yeah, thanks Sam!

Here is a snippet from the PDGA FAQ:

"The scores thrown by propagators each round are used to calculate the SSA rating for a specific course layout. A propagator is a current member whose rating is over 799 and is based on at least 8 rounds. As long as there are 5 propagators playing a course layout, ratings can be calculated. The average rating of all propagators will equal the average rating they get for the round – always. If the same course layout is used more than one round, the scores from multiple rounds will be used to determine an overall SSA, as long as the individual round SSAs come out close to each other, so everyone gets the same rating for the same score on the same course. If the SSAs are significantly different, likely due to varying wind conditions, the round ratings will be calculated separately. If a propagator shoots more than 60 points below their rating, their score will not be used in the SSA calculations."
How does the TD decide who the propagators will be?

[Bullseye]

TD don't decide. That is automatically calculated when you upload the results.

[Scott]

TD don't decide. That is automatically calculated when you upload the results.

So they're randomly chosen?

[Bullseye]

So they're randomly chosen?

It is my understanding that all (current) players whose ratings are over 799 and have played at least 8 rounds are propagators. I don't think that quoted text is limiting the number of propagators to five, it simply says at least five.

I'm sure Chuck K. will correct me if I am wrong.

[Scott]

It is my understanding that all (current) players whose ratings are over 799 and have played at least 8 rounds are propagators. I don't think that quoted text is limiting the number of propagators to five, it simply says at least five.

I'm sure Chuck K. will correct me if I am wrong.

Ahhh... I see.

And this all happens automatically through some sort of computer majik?

[Sean Phillips]

Sunday morning (pro): 51 = 1019
Sunday noontime (am): 51 = 992
Sunday afternoon (pro): 51 = 1002

?:chinscratch:

Sunday morning round had different basket placements than the later two.

[Sam]

Computer majik, yes. So if the propagators are lower rated, higher ratings are harder to achieve, I believe.

[Sam]

Sunday morning round had different basket placements than the later two.

Yah... and that, too. Thanks for the reminder, Sean.

[bvdisc]

Having higher rated players in your division only helps your players ratings if they don't shoot well. If you're a 980 rated player then a 1000 rated player brings more points to the table. But they'll also shoot (on average) 2 strokes better then you per round and keep the extra points they brought. A 960 player brings less points to the communal pool but will also most likely take less from it at the end of the day.

Just saying that having higher rated players in your pool will raise your scores is a misnomer.

[DexterHawk]

I'd say the disadvantage isn't having lower rated players in your pool, but rather having newer players in your pool. These newer players are getting better faster and many of them expect to throw better than their rating 75 - 90% of the time. That would push ratings down because the average player in the pool would be better than their average. This phenomenon may have been further exaggerated by this being the first tournament of the year, with a bunch of folks having practiced and improved over the winter.

[Flash]

I wish it was that easy but it is not. I have been talking about this for a couple of years. The actually work is the easy part. Almost as easy as asking this question. Ball rolling! Thanks flash.
Sorry about that I did not mean to call you guys out. Just wanted to express what everyone was saying over the weekend including many locals. It just seems to make sense to build some sort of french drain in that location. The high use in that area has increased the compression of the ground in the surrounding areas which has increased the spread of the seepage of water from its natural flow. I think a valid argument for a natural drain could be made especially with support from a riparian specialist. I do not know of any but we have two schools in Oregon that pump these kinds of specialists out so there has to be at least one or two who are disc golfers.

I just want to see the experience and Whistlers enhanced year around.

[emmarose]

...misnomer.

misconception.

thank you.

peace threw disc golf & much love,

sgt. mjr. spells-a-lot

[bvdisc]

I'd say the disadvantage isn't having lower rated players in your pool, but rather having newer players in your pool. These newer players are getting better faster and many of them expect to throw better than their rating 75 - 90% of the time. That would push ratings down because the average player in the pool would be better than their average. This phenomenon may have been further exaggerated by this being the first tournament of the year, with a bunch of folks having practiced and improved over the winter.

True. :cheers:

I'll have to get you to come out to play something in the Boulder area sometime. :D