Whiners In The Woods II - Sept 24, 25 2011 Bremerton, WA

[WestsoundBT]

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Hey All, Don't worry about the details yet. But here's a poster graphic to get your appetite ready for a second helping of Whining - again hosted by the West Sound Disc Golf Association.

And "Evergreen Revenge" is the theme... at least for this poster! More to come...

B Thornton, member, West Sound Disc Golf Association

[WestsoundBT]

Just a reminder to make room on your calendar for this one.
Sure, even as of posting it's already a bit stale, but still begged to be made.

He may or may not putt with a Warlock, as that's debatable, but I'm quite sure he's not on board with becoming a card carrying member of the PDGA.


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[sillybizz]

Please tell me that is the CFR stamp! :D

[EnigmaSquad]

To prepare for this event we will be having a WEED 'N' FEED on July 16th @ Fairgrounds.
We have a Bag Tag Challenge that morning.
Work Party around Noon
All you can eat Taco Salad around 2pm. $5 Suggested Donation.
If interested, head over to the Work Party Sub Forum for more Info.

[Rideout]

Online registration is now open for Whiners in the Woods II, HERE!!!! (http://store.northwestsignup.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1&products_id=37)

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[Yardbird]

Here's the PDF file, if you prefer to use snail mail.


http://wsdga.org/Images/WhinersInTheWoods2011.pdf

[Flingin fireman]

We are looking for sponsors for Whiners in the Woods.
Here is the information to pass on to business owners, disc golf enthusiasts, homeless people, aliens, farm animals, basicly anyone that might part with $25.00 to be beloved by people that love plastic.

Dear Business Owner,

West Sound Disc Golf Association (WSDGA) is hosting a disc golf tournament on September 24 and 25, 2011. The tournament can draw up to216 players and their families from Washington and beyond. This will be the Washington State Series finals!
The Event will be held at our courses at NAD Park and Kitsap County Fairgrounds and our new course The Bud Pell at Ross Farm. These challenging courses will draw some of the best professional and amateur disc golfers in the world.

The WSDGA is looking for help in the form of sponsorships. We are a 501c3 non-profit corporation and all donations would be charitable donations. Tax ID#20-3042877 UBI#602-493-314

We are looking for major sponsors. The cost for a Major Sponsorship is $200.00.
For this $200.00 you will receive:
• 4 signs at each course recognizing your contribution.
• Your name announced at each players meeting and at the awards ceremony.
• Your logo printed on the back of each T shirt given to all amateur players.
• You will personally receive one tournament disc and T-shirt.

We are also looking for Hole Sponsorships.
The cost is $25.00 per hole.
For this $25.00 you will receive:
• A sign at the sponsored hole recognizing your contribution.
• Your name announced at each players meeting and at the awards ceremony.



Thank you for supporting healthy local family activities
For information please contact:

Paul Wright, vice-president, WSDGA
360-509-0000
www.wsdga.org
7760 nw Wildcat Lake Road
Bremerton, Wa. 98312

[WestsoundBT]

Here's another teaser poster... not the event stamp either!

Great stuff is happening for the courses involved in Whiners in the Woods II. Infrastructure and tee areas at the Bud Pell are getting great with a ton of work happening almost daily. Fairgrounds is looking the best its ever looked.

B Thornton
member, West Sound Disc Golf Association


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[WestsoundBT]

http://web.me.com/uwblt/WSDGA/Posters_2_files/Whiners%20Graph.jpg

[CMC206]

What are the camping options?

[Flingin fireman]

There will be camping available for $10.00 per site per night at the fairgrounds. These are great camp sites that are opened up just for our folks. There are showers and bathrooms very close. The people that stayed there last year had nothing but good things to say. The campground is next to the course and a big field for practice.
The Baymont Inn also is offering a disc golf rate of $79.00 a night. It is located within walking distance of NAD Park. This is a very nice hotel with the best continental breakfast I have seen at any hotel. You can even get omelets. This is a hotel we are considering partnering with if we bid for am worlds. If you stay there please mention disc golf for the discount and give me feedback on your experience.
Paul

[WestsoundBT]

Announcing new Whiners in the Woods II Website!!

Full website devoted to the tournament.

link from www.wsdga.org

or direct at: http://web.mac.com/uwblt/Whiners2011

As with all event pages, updates will keep coming as event gets closer.
Keep signing up for this one!

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[CMC206]

A couple more WW2 questions:Do we need to reserve a campsite at the fairgrounds? What course do we show up at on Saturday morning?

[Flingin fireman]

You can let me know and I will reserve the campsite. We will be announcing who will report to which course on our web page. I am waiting to see how many sign up to determine if we are going to launch from 1,2,or 3 courses. Sign ups have been slow.
Paul

[CMC206]

We need a site for Saturday night please. I got my buddy to sign up. Chris Cox and Thom Sullivan. Can I request we get on the same card? Is that legal?

[Yardbird]

FYI,

The basket locations at NAD Park are set for the Whiners tournament.

Plan on playing from most of the the Blue tee pads.

[CMC206]

That doesnt matter as we are team blind!:cheers:

[BAKE]

What kind of killer players pack is it going to be ??? details ??

[Flingin fireman]

We are still working on the players pack, but so far we have your choice of 6 different top quality discs (star or ESP plastic), a very cool T shirt, A WWII Mini, a folding flyer, a cliff bar, a package of kleenex for whining, a delicious muffin for breakfast, and more?

[BAKE]

Great Thanks,

[Flingin fireman]

Here is the Schedule for Whiners in the Woods. The courses are looking great!
The disc that comes in the players pack will be a choice between Star Archon, Boss, Katana, TL, or Vulcan, ESP Nuke, Surge, Avenger SS, and Crystal Buzz. 9 discs to choose from, get there early for best selection.

Schedule... All Pros and Advanced (not advanced age protected)
Saturday players meeting 0830 tee off 9am sharp at Kitsap Fairgrounds, 1:45 players meeting 2pm tee off NAD.
Sunday 0830 players meeting 0900 tee off at Bud Pell 1:30 meet at fairgrounds for , basket toss, awards (state and whiners), HUGE raffle

All other groups (advanced masters and grandmasters, intermediate, recreational, juniors)
Saturday players meeting 0830 tee off 9am sharp at NAD, 1:45 players meeting 2pm tee off Bud Pell.
Sunday 0830 players meeting 0900 tee off at Kitsap Fairgrounds 1:30 meet at fairgrounds for , basket toss, awards (state and whiners), HUGE raffle

More info on raffle to come.

[Flingin fireman]

Here is information about the camping from the parks department.
I talked to Billie Schmidt, she is the Park Operations Superintendent, about the camping at the North Campgrounds for the Disc Golf tournament. The cost will be $10/site/night for the primary vehicle of each site. There will be a $5/night charge for each additional vehicle at the site. We have limited space for larger motor homes and 5th-wheelers around the perimeter of the Pavilion parking lot. These have power hook-ups and are $15/night. If someone is staying 2 nights you will need to sell them 2 permits, one for each night. The camping permits will be color coded. That way it will be easy to keep track of them and to check to see if the vehicle is a primary or secondary vehicle or if it is a Pavilion lot permit. We will have staff walk through the campground and Pavilion lot to check permits. Hopefully this will alleviate the problem that you had last year with the unauthorized campers in the campground. Please let campers know that they need to purchase a permit from your group as soon as they arrive. The week before the tournament, you will need to come into the office to pick up the permits. That weekend, your group will be responsible for selling the permits to the campers in your group. Then on Monday, you will turn in any unused permits and the money that you collect. You will have to be careful with the permits because they will be numbered and your group will be required to turn in any unsold permits.

**These are really nice sites. Please let me know if you are planning to camp here. If you decide last minute give me a call 360-509-0000
Paul

[WestsoundBT]

Course player schedules are now up!!!! :yay::yay:

Check out the event webpage linked in my earlier posts to view.

(there's more camping info to come soon over there too)

edit:
ok, Paul beat me to it, but it's on the event site, so check out that page if you haven't.

[jeffmonty]

Allright! I'm glad we're able to get all 3 courses in the mix. This is going to be great! I just hope i've got my "A" game all weekend!

[ski2man]

More info on raffle to come.

So I know you say more info to come, but perhaps you already decided how it is going to work, not necessarily what's in it? Will we get a ticket as part of the the player's pack? Or, buy them ourselves, which I'm assuming either way we can buy more? How much for tickets? I would just like to know how much extra cash to bring! Thanks!

Looks like it's shaping up to be a great weekend! Hopefully the weather will hold up...otherwise I guess there'll just be more to whine about:)

By the way thanks for including some ESP plastic in there, no one ever has it at tourneys. I love avengers and nukes.

[Rideout]

We will hold the Mando’s Basket Toss on Sunday. There will be one more time to qualify for the final toss and then we will hold the final toss. Here is a list of players already qualified to participate in the final toss and how many tosses they have:

Kevin Holmes - 1
Mike Leslie - 1
Ken Wood - 1
Rich Allen - 1
Brandon Mokuiki - 1
Morgan Rothrock - 1
Kyle Sutherland - 1
Rob Jones-Gunn - 1
Todd Watkins - 1
Ace Berg - 1
Tim Baugher - 1
James Wilson - 1
Ron Stevens - 1
Jenny Ramsey - 2
Tony Hahn - 2
Mike Werth - 2
Matt Geck - 2
Eric Mesford - 2
Ray Sanchez - 3
Dan Lilley - 3
Shawn Landry - 4
Bob Brown - 4
Mike Rideout - 5
Jeremy Frieling - 8

[Rideout]

The players listed below are not qualified for the series yet, they need Whiners.

Division (# of players already qualified in division)

Pro Open (5) -
Brody Miller
Ed Doppelmayr
Kenny Clark
Chandler Fry
Steven Mclain
Brandon Parsons
Mike Rideout

Women’s Pro Open (0) -
Jessie Westphal

Pro Masters (2) -
Dan Lilley
Eric Mesford
Andrew Faris
Rich Riser

Advanced (4) -
Zach Ruziska
Kenny Benjamin
Marvin Henry
Ian Markussen
Nate Bell
Tim Bayliss

Women’s Advanced (1) -
Shannon Henry

Advanced Masters (2) -
Bob Brown
Matt Geck
Ace Berg
Tom Rice

Advanced Grandmasters (1) -
Carl Roush
Ron Stevens
Jack Lorber

Intermediate (7) -
Ryan Lange
Carl Wark
James Hatch
Tony Adams
Chris Vaughn
Logan Hill
Nick Boardman
Seth Bates
Jim Templeton
Chris Cox
Mike Genoni

[Rideout]

I guess I’ll go ahead and name those that have already qualified as well. An * means that attending Whiners in the Woods will qualify them for the 10 extra bonus points for competing in all six events.

Players already qualified in the Washington State Series:

Pro Open
Kyle Crabtree
John Anderson*
Lou Tran
Aaron Holley*
Jon Wills

Pro Masters
Mike Werth*
Gordy Kirkpatrick

Advanced
Ryan Guiher*
Ray Sanchez*
Dana Etienne*
Jeremy Frieling

Women’s Advanced
Tanya Spence

Advanced Masters
Andy Foster*
Todd Bates

Advanced Grandmasters
Tom Bontempo

Intermediate
Gary Hill*
Kyle Smart*
Chris Nixon*
Arthur Chambers
Chrys Schongalla
Brandon Mokuiki
Matt Zlatich

[Rideout]

Here is a link to the current points standings. They are also located on the WSS thread in the series section of the forum.

Thanks Kenny, for getting the points promtly posted all season.

https://store.northwestsignup.com/fliers/points.pdf

[Tanya Spence]

Couple of questions...

1. Anybody looking to carpool from Seattle? Either this evening or at the crack of dawn?

2. Which course do the Advance Women start at? I know it says advance starts at Fairgrounds but I assumed that at Tale of Two Rivers and I ended up at the wrong course so I just want to make sure!!

3. ...there is no #3... Have a great weekend everyone!!!


-Tanya

[Tanya Spence]

Couple of questions...

1. Anybody looking to carpool from Seattle? Either this evening or at the crack of dawn?

2. Which course do the Advance Women start at? I know it says advance starts at Fairgrounds but I assumed that at Tale of Two Rivers and I ended up at the wrong course so I just want to make sure!!

3. ...there is no #3... Have a great weekend everyone!!!


-Tanya



---I am not opposed to leaving at the crack of dawn. A warm shower, cup of coffee and sleeping in my own bed is worth it!!

[jWest]

Paul!!

I'm playing and i want to camp at the fairgrounds..... is somebody going to be there (@fairgrounds) in the morning to take entry/camping fees??

[Yardbird]

Just got done playing the Bud Pell @ Ross Farm course and it is looking great. All the grass is mowed and the wooded fairways have been cleaned up.

You would have never guessed that the course has only been open for three months. Looks like a seasoned course.

Are you ready to play the 1000' par 5 hole?

[Sean Phillips]

Were exactly is bud pell? Is it at 368 NE waaga way?

[Kenny B]

Were exactly is bud pell? Is it at 368 NE waaga way?

Yes, 368 Northeast Waaga Way. It shares the address with the northwest paintball park. As you come in the entrance, keep left up the driveway's short hill. You'll see signs for where to park on the left. First time you play, I recommend walking down the path to the field to throw alt 1. That way you have a better idea for where to throw your drive from the regular hole 1 teepad.

[papatart]

Couple of questions...

1. Anybody looking to carpool from Seattle? Either this evening or at the crack of dawn?

2. Which course do the Advance Women start at? I know it says advance starts at Fairgrounds but I assumed that at Tale of Two Rivers and I ended up at the wrong course so I just want to make sure!!

3. ...there is no #3... Have a great weekend everyone!!!


-Tanya

Hey Tanya! The ADV women will be starting at Fairgrounds so that is where you should be. See you in the morning.....

Scott Papa

[Sean Phillips]

Fairgrounds was a pretty cool course. No wining out of me.

THEN a round at NAD. WOW, I used up all my kleenex. Very tight, very few "fair"ways. :waaah:

We'll see how the new Bud Pell course is tomorrow.

[SPIDER-DAN]

SCOTT.........WAY TO KEEP THE TOURNAMENT FOR THE PRO AND ADVANCED DIVISIONS RUNNING VERY SMOOTH AND EFFICEINT. IT WAS QUICK, IT WAS SIMPLE, AND IT WAS ONE OF BEST I HAVE SEEN.

THANKS TO ALL THE PEOPLE THAT HELPED SCOTT GET SETUP THIS MORNING WITH SIGN-INS, ECT..............IM SURE IT MADE HIS JOB ALOT EASIER.

I AGREE WITH SEAN.........FAIRGROUNDS COULD OF BEEN A LITTLE NICER, BUT NAD WAS PRETTY BRUTAL......EVEN MORE THAN I REMEMBERED FROM LAST TIME..............:waaah:

HAVE NOT PLAYED BUD PELL..........NERVOUS..........EXCITED..........OH YEAH!

[Tanya Spence]

Great tournament! Thanks for 2 smooth running days and for introducing me to 2 new courses. Thank you and props to everyone involved.

[SPIDER-DAN]

Hmmmm......not one to complain, but i think the round rating for bud pell is a little off. I know i did not play as well as i could have, but i am pretty sure it was not a 924 rated round i shot. I shot 2 under par i think the rating on the pdga website is going off a par 54 score........which would be extremely awesome (way to go for those who acheived that).

Is that what it really is or is that going to be fixed?

[papatart]

Dan, I played with you all weekend and that thing about not being one to complain....well....I absolutely agree with you. There is no complaint heard and you are absolutely correct. Actually, all the round ratings will change as the appropriate course info and who was playing which course at which time is not yet totally entered. Sorry about that everyone and it will be fixed as soon as possible.

As for everything else, again I would like to thank all of the competitors for their professionalism and spirit as it made the tournament that much better. Working with Paul is always great as he really strives to put out a great product and I think that the final result was awesome.

That being said, both Paul and I are always looking for ways to improve and be better and make your tourney experience perfect. So if you have any advice, comments or thoughts on things that were good, bad or could have been better, please feel free to share them here or send me a pm, e-mail or whatever so that we can mull them over. This doesn't mean we are taking down 57 trees, but we REALLY do listen to what all have to say. Shoot, before we left the parking lot yesterday Paul and I were already talking about what we ourselves saw that could have been improved on.

So thanks again, congrats to all competitors for fighting the good fight through all the nasty trees and we hope to see you next year!:trophy::bowing::trophy:

Scott Papa

[Flingin fireman]

Thank you to everyone that came out to play this weekend. I enjoyed seeing everyone and I hope you had as good of a time as I did.
The ratings issue is one of not having the Bud Pell listed in the PDGA course listings. It thinks it is a par 54. I am not sure why that lowers the ratings, but I will be working on that today to clear things up.
As Papa said we are already looking to address some of the concerns about "fair" ways. Not sure we will please everybody, but there is nobody more interested in improving our courses and the game than we are.
We only had 2 scoring errors this year...2 that is amazing, and no questions regarding rules issues, OB's etc in the AM division. Thank you all for that.
Thanks for all the support from the disc golf community, We are starting to see greater support coming in from people that know nothing about the game and will make a huge difference in the growth of our game, our tournaments, and the payouts.
Paul

[DMajor]

Thank you to everyone that came out to play this weekend. I enjoyed seeing everyone and I hope you had as good of a time as I did.
The ratings issue is one of not having the Bud Pell listed in the PDGA course listings. It thinks it is a par 54. I am not sure why that lowers the ratings, but I will be working on that today to clear things up.
As Papa said we are already looking to address some of the concerns about "fair" ways. Not sure we will please everybody, but there is nobody more interested in improving our courses and the game than we are.
We only had 2 scoring errors this year...2 that is amazing, and no questions regarding rules issues, OB's etc in the AM division. Thank you all for that.
Thanks for all the support from the disc golf community, We are starting to see greater support coming in from people that know nothing about the game and will make a huge difference in the growth of our game, our tournaments, and the payouts.
Paul


I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure the par of a course has nothing to do with the rating. Looks like they're skewed because there is no separation of pools. As if everyone was playing the same course at the same time.

[Flingin fireman]

Yep, absolutely true.
It is now fixed. Sorry for any angst for the low ratings or undeserved excitement over the false high ratings, but the trueand accurate ratings are up now. I actually got a full night's sleep last night and it is amazing how much easier things seem this morning.
Thanks for your patience.
Paul



I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure the par of a course has nothing to do with the rating. Looks like they're skewed because there is no separation of pools. As if everyone was playing the same course at the same time.

[Flingin fireman]

Looks like I had more scoring errors than the 89 participants...oops


Yep, absolutely true.
It is now fixed. Sorry for any angst for the low ratings or undeserved excitement over the false high ratings, but the trueand accurate ratings are up now. I actually got a full night's sleep last night and it is amazing how much easier things seem this morning.
Thanks for your patience.
Paul

[DiscGolfBirdie]

If you didn't happen to pick up the Sunday issue of our local newspaper, The Kitsap Sun, check out the FRONT page coverage here ... http://www.kitsapsun.com/news/2011/sep/24/regions-top-disc-golfers-take-a-spin-around/

[LJ Jubner]

Looks like I had more scoring errors than the 89 participants...oops

They only had one card each you on the other hand