2005 WA. State series mystery disc

[dan mc]

just scored a brand new 05 series disc and i'm not sure what it is. it's labled as a 171 valk (171 vl) but the rim is too wide to be a valk. compared it to some orcs and starfires and they don"t quite match. where old mold beast availible as cfr plastic? it's super pearly champ and i know that era was when beasts and orcs where prime. anybody out there got anything similar? i"ll attempted to post some pics

[General Scales]

Viking?

[dan mc]

Viking?

viks rim is the same width as valks and sidewnders

[Jester]

Could it be a Starfire? The time frame seems about right.

[JR Stengele]

I second the viking. I think they are larger rimed then the valk.

[TreeLove]

And a lower case "l" can look a lot like an upper case "I" !

[dan mc]

And a lower case "l" can look a lot like an upper case "I" !

viks and valks both have 1.9 cm rim width(pdga tech site) and the code for viking is vk . just dug out an orc, valk, viking, starfire, and 1x beast (i forgot i had) i'm pretty sure it's a beast. i guess the pbr made it a little tough to tell last nite

[SPIDER-DAN]

Vikings back then were labeled 'vg' i still have a few. I think it was either a beast or starfire. Starfires and beast came out in 2003 and the valks did change from 'vk' to 'vl', but i thought it was later. It is hard to tell between the beast, starfire and viking.

The viking does have a smaller rim than the beast and starfire. From the edge of the rim of the viking toward the inside it has a gradual incline (30 degrees) about 3/4 of the way then it climbs dramatically (45 degrees) after that. The starfire does not have that dramatic change in the rim until about 7/8 of the way and the beast even less than that.

Of course i am no expert, but i would guess beast first then starfire.

[Cold Steel]

pretty sure the starfire was a series disc around that time- pretty sure the beast was not.

[Mikk]

I have a 2005 WSS yellowish champ starfire. I can post pix later if you need.

[Jonesy]

there are no ce beasts.

[Jonesy]

sorry, thought i read ce.

[wilt]

I had to go check my stack and I have two of these. It's likely a cfr Starfire-L. The s is written kind of funny so I could see how it might be mistaken for a v. Ink is written on the rim on mine.

[dan mc]

time to dig out a sl for comparison. at least i've been re discovering some cool plastic that i sorta forgot i had. sad thing is i've only been playing for 3 years and i have way too much plastic. time to stop buying new and recycle some of the old. sorry mando's ,chainbangers and dalaiwood pro shops, your gonna have to survive without my $80+ a month...........yeah right SHINEY NEW PRETTIES

[Mikk]

I had to go check my stack and I have two of these. It's likely a cfr Starfire-L. The s is written kind of funny so I could see how it might be mistaken for a v. Ink is written on the rim on mine.

Yup mine too. But its not like a SL right?

[Mikk]

ok so I'm compairing my 2005 wss champ starfire(?) to my current star starfire and the profile of the inner flight plate is waaayyy different. Now I'm realy curious...

[wilt]

SL = Starfire-L

However I do remember reading on the Innova site that the cfr SL was tweaked a little, like it had a 0 instead of -1 turn maybe? I don't recall now what it was and that information isn't shown on the Innova site that I can find anymore.


here's the marking on the rim

http://home.comcast.net/~wiltronic/slRim.jpg

[Mikk]

Oddly enough it shares the same profile as my Discraft Crystal Rogue and my Discmania Rush.. curious indeed..

[Mikk]

Mine is so faded I cant get pix of it.
Ok I tried..
http://nwdiscgolfnews.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=73&pictureid=552

[dan mc]

no ink on the rim ink right on the button (center where innova usually puts it) definatly not a sl i'm still thinking beast compared it to the firebird wing also so that rules out fbx and olf still looks beasty to me field test tomorrow