Spokane weeklies?

[jshrack]

Are these still happening?
I randomly caught a saturday round two weeks ago.
Sadly I have shown up for 2 since with no showing...not even a club rep.
Are these even officially scheduled anymore?
If they are, i'll happily re-clear and sand the HB pads for tomorrow.
Please let me know.

[Stimpi]

Are these still happening?
I randomly caught a saturday round two weeks ago.
Sadly I have shown up for 2 since with no showing...not even a club rep.
Are these even officially scheduled anymore?
If they are, i'll happily re-clear and sand the HB pads for tomorrow.
Please let me know.


that's a good question, Justin.
I showed up yesterday, at Downriver, for the scheduled doubles but noone was hanging about. there were a few casual golfers is all.
My Stimpi Ridge weeklies are scheduled, and I've been here for all of them. Alas, noone has shown up.
I suspect there aren't many winter golfers in the club.
My calendar lists another week of events, so I'll leave it, but I'm not adding anymore club events to the calendar until I get a confirmation call, from Tony, or whoever is supposed to be running them.

[Gordy #21004]

I put a post under 'Downriver Weeklies':posting::chug:

[Stimpi]

The weeklies are continuing at Stimpi Ridge. Today we have a fivesome for Skins.
Check the calendar at www.stimpiridge.com for listings.
Tonight (Monday, December 20th) will usher in the solstice with a total lunar eclipse.
In honor of this event, Stimpi Ridge will be open for Night Golf Play. (no fees)
Bring a flashlight for lighting your way, and the reflectors on the baskets.
The tees have solar lights for lighting.
The eclipse will begin around 8pm but will be total around 11:30pm, lasting until 1:30 or so.
I'll also have a telescope set up, and a fire in the firepit to keep us warm.
Happy Solstice everyone.

[Parks]

When I last talked to Tony, he said no one was showing up for his events once the weather got bad and the teepads were covered. He may start them up again if the course is faring better weatherwise.

If you want, I can pm you his number and you can ask him what his plans are on a week-by-week basis.

[Sky Pilot]

On Saturday I showed up at 10:30AM for the weekly Doubles that Tony said he was going to run. Sadly, no one was there. It had just started snowing about 1 hour to this and I noticed that there were no tracks in the snow at all.
I showed up two weeks ago and it was Tony, Jim and myself. Not quite enough for Pro-Am Doubles, so we waited and decided to come back at noon when Wayne and his usual group were planning to play. We ended up playing with 6 people in a random draw pick-up event for $5.00 each. Jim and I came in second with a -1 and Wayne and Brandon scored a -5. The other team was at 0.
I did hear from David Smith that last week when it was a bit dyer that they had a normal turnout of 11.
If I were running the Doubles (which I do not intend to do) I would promote it better and always show up to run it - whether or not it was snowing, hailing or whatever. If I couldn't make it or didn't want to run it, I would then feel the responsibility to pass this along to someone else or at the very least post a message on the Tee Sign that it wasn't able to happen. Just not showing up is not how I would do it or expect it to be done.
Let's show the disc golf community that they can count on us to run what we've scheduled.

Sky Pilot
SDGA President
:angel:

[jshrack]

So... I hear that Stimpi's is the place then?
It sucks showing up to an empty course.
If pads are an issue, say something... Aaron, Kevin, and others have been doing an amazing job keeping them clear.

Also sounds odd that a non-club function took the place of a club one.
Did the club fees get passed on as well?

[LJ Jubner]

So...It sucks showing up to an empty course...

As someone who offers functions that are at best sometime sparsely attended. (Can I get a second Silly) Anyway As the organizer It's up to me to decide what we are playing and for how much, Right? If I am the only one who shows It's not to much of a deal, I just play a quick Personal Record Round and go. No blood no foul. The same can be said for a five some.


I do offer a phone number to call for weekly info updates espically if the weather is the deciding factor for most players. This would not be a bad idea for the club to have it's own voice mail.

So...Also sounds odd that a non-club function took the place of a club one. Did the club fees get passed on as well?

It is interesting that a third party offers a counter scheduling or later starting time event In this instance Wayne believes his event is any less club dependent (after all club did install and maintains the course:
members past and current) then the scheduled doubles that supports the clubs and it's efforts

So, the real question is; Why do some TD's collect for the club and why others don't feel the responsibility to collect fees from the club to keep the courses up and running?

Oh right this is that famous Disc Golf "third rail"

The Dreaded PAY TO PLAY I.E.D.

[jshrack]

I'm not sure exactly what Jub just said...

Sorry if i'm just rekindling an old flame.
Just curious... like a cat, sadly.

[Wobbly Bob]

There will be a Spokane Weekly Handicap tournament at Four Mound on Sunday, Dec. 26, 2010. Tee-off is 11:00 am. Cost is $10.

[jshrack]

THANX BOB!

[Stimpi]

For any and all. Dec. 25th, Xmas Day, Stimpi Ridge will be open for casual play all day.
In the past, I've had quite a few folks show up. Often it's good to get out for some fresh air and exercise after all the early festivities. No Charge.

[LJ Jubner]

For any and all. Dec. 25th, Xmas Day, Stimpi Ridge will be open for casual play all day.
In the past, I've had quite a few folks show up. Often it's good to get out for some fresh air and exercise after all the early festivities. No Charge.

But its $15 to park, Right Stimp? And what of the a la carte fire pit?



Only kidding


HH to all

[jshrack]

Thanks again to Stimpi for the eclipse night golf.
I Had blast!

[Sky Pilot]

Met with 3 others and played a round today. The SDGA weeklies are apparently stalled. No one showed to lead at 10:30AM today. Cody Miller and his friend Jonathan along with David Smith and I played casual Doubles.
David and I were +2 and the other group was +4. It was an enjoyable workout. We all had fun. I made about a 40 foot put off of David's drive on #6.

David mentioned that he heard that there will be an event at Corbin next Saturday. I'd suggest contacting Jack Wardian at Rapid Fire if you're interested. He'll know the details. The number is 208-691-1126.

[jshrack]

Bob, I am very sorry if this post over-steps on your duties... if so feel free to chastise me.


Please consider supporting the SDGA by playing the Four Mound Handicap on Saturday the 8th.
:-)

[Wobbly Bob]

There will be a SDGA Handicap tournament at 4 Mound on Saturday, Jan. 8, 2011 at 11:00 am.



Entry fee - $10
4 Mound - $1
SDGA - $1
$50 Ace Pot - $1
Purse - $7


There are two divisions;

Pros playing scratch
Ams playing Handicap

Attached below are the current players handicaps.

[Gordy #21004]

Tues nite I cleared about 8" of snow from the entry drive, cleared some parking near the house and cleared the spur road out to where we start handicap. But its still snowing. No matter how much more snow we get I think 4-wheel drive is the ticket for the next handicap. You will not be very happy if you don't ribbon up. Putts will be lost without it. Wear tall boots. Gordy.:chug:

[Wobbly Bob]

We had a great time Saturday playing the handicap out at 4 Mound. We had 5 Ams and no Pros. Tall boots were appropriate attire and ribbon made a difference in being able to find your discs.

We paid out three spots, congratulations to the winners.



1st Pl. - $17 - Justin Shrack with a 55 - 0.9 = 54.1
2nd Pl. - $11 - Kevin Sakus with a 58 - 3.6 = 54.4
3rd Pl. - $7 - Landon Capehart with a 69 - 11.7 = 57.3


Our next handicap will be held on Sunday Jan. 23, 2011 at 11:00 am

I've attached the updated handicaps to the bottom of this post.

[Stimpi]

I haven't seen any announcements of the SDGA Weeklies being ON or OFF or anything.
I've got them listed on my website calendar, but I kinda made that up, hoping there was going to be something going on.
Is anybody running anything this weekend?

Side note. I also have Stimpi Ridge events listed for both, Sat and Sun at 1:30... BUT... if the thawing and raining continues, I may have to cancel them due to MUD.
Watch the Stimpi Ridge thread on this forum for updates.

Stimp

[jshrack]

I don't know of anybody running anything this weekend Stimp.
I could probably throw together a Noon doubles round with some calls?
Anyone interested? Tomorrow? Sunday?

Heck, I even have Monday off if anyone is down.

[Gordy #21004]

After our last Board meeting last Tuesday the people still hanging around tossed the Weeklies topic around. We acknowledged that the 4-mound handicap is up and going on a regular schedule but the in town events have tailed off to little or nothing. We thought we could ask for somebody to step into the TD role for at least the balance of the winter months. Shrack said (as above) that he might be able to manage some events. Even if there was one event per week that would still be good. ... Since Stimpi has temporarily closed his course because of mud concerns, maybe he would like to throw his hat into the TD ring for an event or two. Stimpi? How about it! You'd have to fill out a report as well , hang on to the Club cut, report the results yourself or just simply forward them to the P.R. person. In the future we'd expect Tony(our fairweather friend) to pick up the reigns again or make other plans. Thanks in advance to anyone who wants to talk about helping out. Gordy:chug:

[Stimpi]

" Since Stimpi has temporarily closed his course because of mud concerns, maybe he would like to throw his hat into the TD ring for an event or two."

Hi All,
The mud concerns are on a day-by-day basis. Should we get a hard freeze, the course is open. Should we get a couple of days of wind and no rain, the course may open.
As far as running club events, I'll volunteer to run one this Saturday, Jan. 22nd, 10:30 teeoff, Divisional Singles at High Bridge. If weather allows, I'll follow it up with a Doubles Round at 2:00pm, at Stimpi Ridge.
Club rounds are $7, I'm keeping Ridge rounds at $10.
There's $37 bucks in the Ridge Acepot, and I understand there is about $200 in the SDGA acepot.
Club rounds pay out $5, Ridge rounds pay out $8.

4 Mound is listed for Sunday, and my calendar ends this week. Really, my last year's calendar that I carry had a couple of extra weeks, so I've been lax about getting a new book and figuring out what the heck I'm doing this year.

Theoretically, I'll be getting a new book tomorrow and will be able to plan ahead further than a week, so watch the www.stimpiridge.com calendar for updates.

[jshrack]

Thanx Steve!

I was asked, and I agreed, to take on the responsibility of a weekly Sunday Doubles round. My major concern is that I don't want to conflict with Stimpi's rounds or the Handicap rounds already scheduled.
I was originally thinking that Sunday Noon was a great time but it might conflict with Stimpi.

Would Sunday Doubles at 11 be workable for people?
Maybe stick to Highbridge until the weather seems to mellow out?

If you have any suggestions or input I would greatly appreciate it.
I will make an official announcement about Weekly Doubles at the meeting tomorrow.

[Stimpi]

Thanx Steve!

I was asked, and I agreed, to take on the responsibility of a weekly Sunday Doubles round. My major concern is that I don't want to conflict with Stimpi's rounds or the Handicap rounds already scheduled.
I was originally thinking that Sunday Noon was a great time but it might conflict with Stimpi.

Would Sunday Doubles at 11 be workable for people?
Maybe stick to Highbridge until the weather seems to mellow out?

If you have any suggestions or input I would greatly appreciate it.
I will make an official announcement about Weekly Doubles at the meeting tomorrow.


The main reason for timing the Club round at 10:00 or 10:30 is to allow time for a round, and still have enough light to finish a second round, starting about 1:30 or 2:00. Starting later than 2:00 this time of year gets pretty sketchy for light if the round goes slowly.
Also, we haven't been scheduling them against the 4 Mound events, nor the NIDGC events.
As the season progresses, we'll be able to start at 11: and 3:00 and still have light for two rounds, but we ought to keep the timing the same for a while, at least, don't you think?
Also, my scheduling has been based on a formula. ALWAYS High Bridge if the event is on Saturday. Downriver if it's on Sunday. The formats flip-flop. One week Doubles at HB, Singles at DR.
The next (event) week Singles at HB and so forth. This format gives me something to schedule around, and players something to count on, but I don't have an investment in it. If you want that to change, just let me know.

[Parks]

My experience with start times was that noon produced the best attendance for the winter months.

Your mileage may vary, or you may have different goals than flat out high attendance (such as allowing time to get in a second round with daylight).

[jshrack]

That is true, yet...
I have really been trying to steer clear of Downriver for winter golf.
Longer shots and more terrain in adverse conditions... not too many people have even been attempting he bottom in the snow.
Same can be said for Highbridge but at least it has been decently maintained by our membership throughout.
Truthfully, Stimpi Ridge is usually the best maintained around, especially when the weather is wintry. I love participating in your events, they are always a blast.

As for the time. Don't most disc golfers meet about noon for a round in the winter?
Asking many of our members to meet on a Sunday morning much before noon is pushing it, it kills our turnout. Especially when it's in the teens or twenties. Although, I completely agree with your points too... maybe we can bust out some sort of compromise before the meeting tomorrow? Announce something that works for all of us.

[Stimpi]

Scheduling around the 4 Mound and NIDGC events, why don't we swap the Saturday/Sunday, HB/DR. That way, I'll run a Saturday event at Downriver at 10:30, and a Stimpi event at 2:00.
Justin can run a High Bridge event at 12:00 on Sundays.
???

[jshrack]

That sounds awesome to me, as long as nobody objects.

[Wobbly Bob]

Sunday we will be holding an SDGA Handicap tournament out at 4 Mound Disc Golf Reserve.

The gate will be open around 10:30 and the round will start about 11:00 am.

I'm pretty sure the ground will be frozen and not muddy.

[Sky Pilot]

I look forward to Doubles on Saturdays. I haven't been able to attend the functions - if they've even been happening - on Sundays at 10:00 at Downriver due to Church. Last I knew Tony Costanzo was supposed to be leading these, but I haven't seen him around on Saturdays lately. Cody Miller has apparently taken over for Tony. Last Saturday we had 9 people for Doubles at about 10:30AM.
I don't care who runs it as long as someone is doing it consistently and responsibly.

Sky Pilot

[Stimpi]

So is that considered an objection?
Should I show up at Downriver on Saturday to run a club event, or is Cody, Tony, or someone else doing it?
Stimp

[Sky Pilot]

I'm saying I like playing in the doubles. There is a chance of placing in that. If I play in singles - I might as well look around and hand my money to the best player in advance. At least in Doubles I can partner with a better player and assist them. This has worked well on many occasions. I've placed with a partner and won with one on several occasions. -14 in LCO Doubles in 09' and -14 in doubles in September of 09' along with other second and third place winnings. Sometimes I just plain suck and don't get anything, but that's Disc Golf. I just like the opportunity to do my best in Doubles. I can't do it on Sunday due (as I said) to church. That's my 2 cents. You guys can decide.

Sky Pilot

[Wobbly Bob]

I'm saying I like playing in the doubles. There is a chance of placing in that. If I play in singles - I might as well look around and hand my money to the best player in advance. At least in Doubles I can partner with a better player and assist them. This has worked well on many occasions. I've placed with a partner and won with one on several occasions. -14 in LCO Doubles in 09' and -14 in doubles in September of 09' along with other second and third place winnings. Sometimes I just plain suck and don't get anything, but that's Disc Golf. I just like the opportunity to do my best in Doubles. I can't do it on Sunday due (as I said) to church. That's my 2 cents. You guys can decide.

Sky Pilot

You should really try competing in the Handicap. Scores are always very close and your playing to beat your own average score.

[Stimpi]

I don't have a problem with the format being Doubles. I'm just wondering if the club already has someone running the event.
Tony and Cody were mentioned, so has anyone talked to them. I don't see them on this forum, and if I had their numbers they went down with my previous phone.

So I'm wondering if I need to show up tomorrow, or not.

I've canceled the 2:00 Stimpi Ridge event, due to muddy conditions.
If it's nasty, I won't feel like driving down to Downriver, to see if someone is already running it, so can I get a SDGA announcement, please?

[jshrack]

I don't have a problem with the format being Doubles. I'm just wondering if the club already has someone running the event.
Tony and Cody were mentioned, so has anyone talked to them. I don't see them on this forum, and if I had their numbers they went down with my previous phone.

So I'm wondering if I need to show up tomorrow, or not.

I've canceled the 2:00 Stimpi Ridge event, due to muddy conditions.
If it's nasty, I won't feel like driving down to Downriver, to see if someone is already running it, so can I get a SDGA announcement, please?

Steve!
I haven't heard back from Tony but Cody did just call me.
He hasn't been asked (by Tony) to run anything tomorrow.
We talked about the option you threw out and he liked the idea.
He also offered to be another backup for Sundays.
I think we have a lot of people on board to help with your plan.
I just need to make sure with Lyle and Tony. (don't wanna step on any toes)

Anyway, Cody and I will both be at Downriver tomorrow at 10:30 for a SDGA Doubles.
Everyone should feel free to come join us! Should be early enough that the slop is still mostly solid. :biggrin2:

[Sky Pilot]

Why are we changing Doubles to Sunday, when they've been at High Bridge on Saturdays for quite a while? Is this personal?

[jshrack]

Jeff, read the entire thread.

[Sky Pilot]

I did and it only confused me. I'll just gather some people and play High Bridge tomorrow. By the way my 'toes' are hurting.

[Parks]

I just need to make sure with Lyle and Tony. (don't wanna step on any toes)

I don't care what you do, its up to you if you're willing to run the event.

As far as Tony, it sounds like you've tried calling him and he didn't respond. So I wouldn't worry too much about him, either.

[jshrack]

Jeff: i guess i'm confused about your issue here...
These events were not happening on a regular basis.
We are trying to fix that... I don't understand how you could take that personally.

[Sky Pilot]

I said, "I look forward to Doubles on Saturdays."

I said, "I can't do it on Sunday due (as I said) to church."

I asked if it was personal because my concerns weren’t responded to in the discussion.

After this you said, "Anyway, Cody and I will both be at Downriver tomorrow at 10:30 for a SDGA Doubles.

This decision was a bit confusing due to your post that read:

“I have really been trying to steer clear of Downriver for winter golf.
Longer shots and more terrain in adverse conditions... not too many people have even been attempting he bottom in the snow.
Same can be said for Highbridge but at least it has been decently maintained by our membership throughout.”

Hey, I just want to play Doubles at High Bridge on Saturdays. I agree that High Bridge is a bit of an easier traverse these days and I don't particularly enjoy Four Mound as it's a bit harder for me.

Even though I’m the President I’m not trying to say this as the “President”. I am just throwing out my concerns and hope that I can influence the discussion. I’m not running it and I’m not interested in adding that to my list of responsibilities. I’ve got plenty to do already. I just enjoy playing and want to count on something happening. I’ve said before that I’m disappointed in the inconsistency. If you guys can get something going that would be great. If I don’t like it, I won’t attend. I wish you well.

Sky Pilot
SDGA

[jshrack]

Wow... Nothing is ironed out but... Tentatively
Saturday doubles at Downriver will still happen early.
Stimpi round to follow later on saturdays.
Stimpi and cody have both offered to help at Downriver.
I will run sundays at highbridge around Noon, others have offered to help.
Noon tee off will hopefully help increase turn-out as well. (you included?)
I will show up tomorrow because nothing is official.
I don't want to give out info and have nobody show from the club
plus I enjoy rounds with both cody and stimpi!

[Gordy #21004]

Justin and Steve, It looks alot like you two are talking to each other and are actually on the cusp of getting a reasonable solution for the Weeklies worked out. What a nice surprise. When you guys get started, assuming the events are provided as a contest for the players and to the benefit of the Club, I hope you will pick up where Lyle left off. Specifically, Bob can provide you with an 'easy to fill out' event report page. You can use this record to make a report of the event results yourselves or you can forward it to Bob and he will do it...Inquires about the Ace pot and how its handled should go to Lyle. (Steve, you probably already have a handle on this). Either of you or one of you should keep the originals of your reports . When you turn in funds to the Club, I will sign each of your reports as your receipt and you keep them all until you are done being a TD. When that time comes you simply turn them into the PR guy(Bob) and he archives them for the Club. Tony has a bunch of swag from us that you could get and use for prizes in an optional CTP. With all the guys you have on board to help it sounds like we're back in business. Thanks for taking the trouble. :chug::chug:Gordy:

[Stimpi]

I'll try to clarify the situation.
Originally... we decided all events will be Sat. at High Bridge, Sunday at Downriver. Doubles and singles will swap weekends.

NOW... it's the opposite. All Saturdays will be at Downriver. ALL sundays will be at High Bridge. The formats will swap weekends, as before.

Before: early rounds started at 10:am. Now, the Saturday Rounds will start at 10:30. ALL Sunday rounds will start at NOON.
conditions allowing, there will be a 2:00pm event on Saturdays, following the Downriver rounds.

Today, should be Doubles at Downriver at 10:30.
See you there.

P.S. I wasn't able to print out the Weekly Form that Bob sent me. It printed out blank??

[psychodwarf]

P.S. I wasn't able to print out the Weekly Form that Bob sent me. It printed out blank??
are you sure it has ink ??

[jshrack]

We had a great turn-out today!
16 players showed for doubles in absolutely HORRIBLE conditions.
The course was an ice rink and we had a blast.

There is no weekly event scheduled at HB tomorrow!
Gordy and Bob are having the Handicapped round at Four Mound.
Come join in on the fun. If you need a ride, gimme a ring a ding ding.

[Gordy #21004]

The last little hill on Burnett Rd (the county gravel road) just before you turn left into the 4-mound gate is all clear but iced over. Be careful! The private drive in has two nice tire tracks to follow with very little build-up otherwise. The spur road out to the Handi fire pit is firm and clear; not frozen solid, not sloppy........Full rack of Sierra Nevada Torpedo on hand.:chug::chug::chug::chug::chug::chug::chug::ch ug::chug::chug::chug::chug::chug::chug::chug::chug ::chug::chug::chug::chug::chug::chug::chug::chug: Gordy

[jshrack]

All in all, I am exhausted. Long day of disc golf and a heck of a lot of fun.
If I remember correctly, Darrin threw down in Pro (-6?) with Stimpi a close second while Kevin cleaned up in Am Handicap.

Stimpi lead a few of us through a second round of Wolf.
Aaron got a point or two, the experienced guys each had three, and Tim V. and I each had four.
We picked a close basket for a quick playoff and Tim almost Aced it. His drop in two took the cash.

[Wobbly Bob]

We had eight people come out and play at 4 Mound on Sunday. 4 Pros and 4 Ams. The weather was great and it wasn't very muddy at all.

In the Pro division Darrin Case took 1st place for $18 and Cole Swanson took 2nd for $10.

In the Am division Kevin Sakus took 1st place to win $18 and Justin Shrack got $10 for 2nd place.

Cole Swanson threw an Ace on hole #5 to win the $50 Ace Pot.

[Stimpi]

It was a fine day at 4 Mound, for the Handicap Round.
Cole hit an ace, for $50.
It would appear that there was a CLUB Acepot at High Bridge at the same time.
I thought the club wasn't going to overlap the events?
I thought the club was going to announce the events before they happen?
4 Mound was fun, but with a $50 acepot there, and a $200 acepot in town, I think I would have picked the High Bridge event, had I known about it.

Another question arose. If there is a "club" acepot, and the 4 Mound events are "club" events (which they are, as a buck goes to the club from each entry) then why isn't the "club" acepot part of the 4 Mound series as well?

After Saturday's acepot at Downriver, most of us wanted to play more, and Stimpi Ridge was canceled, due to muddy conditions, so we agreed on another round at High Bridge.
When we got there, it seemed natural to feel like it was another "club sponsored" round, but I thought better of using the acepot on a "unannounced, impromptu" round which would exclude many players from attending.
It seems like the High Bridge event on Sunday was just such an event.
Unannounced and contrary to the club schedule.

So... which events should the acepot be available to? Which courses? Who's deciding when to include the acepot and when not to?

[prospect]

I have the same questions. Not just beacause I hit the ace, but because we have all been paying into the club and the ace pot for some time now, and I would also like to know when/where the largest pot will apply.

[jshrack]

wait a sec... there was an event at Highbridge specifically after the club discussed NOT having them on 4 mound days?
Who authorized a club event at Highbridge? Where is the announcement? Who the EFF ran this phantom event? Did someone hit the ACE?

Stimpi, you exercised good judgement and experience when you spoke up and said that having the ace pot apply to our 'follow up' round would not be a legitimate use of club funds... unless EVERYBODY in the club was notified and invited.

I am sorry to hear this sort of club minded logic is not considered by some others who actually have club power.

[Gordy #21004]

The last report on the Ace Pot that was given to the Club was at the Dec. 14th meeting. With that report Lyle turned in his funds through the end of his management of those events and held onto the Ace Pot itself....In the meantime there have been no Weekly events reported to the Club except for the Handicap hosted by Bob. No amount of the Ace Pot was made available to Bob so he did not commit any of the Ace Pot to his event. Bob and Kevin put up their own $40 to get the Handi-Ace Pot started and by Jan. 6th (post #17 on this thread) Bob stated the Handi-Ace pot was paying $50 (which he paid yesterday) Now his Ace Pot is back to $15......If Lyle has made any part of the Ace Pot in his custody available to people assisting with events in town it would be fitting for him to report that back to the Club. If there are events up and running in town it would be fitting for the TDs to report back to the Club as well....If all of the folks who have an interest in seeing the SDGA Weekly series of events get back on an even keel would like to meet to get it ironed out, I'm sure that Bob, Steve, Justin, Cody and Lyle wouldn't mind helping however they can......I'm sure Bob wouldn't mind having some support from the Club Ace Pot while he conducts his event in support of the Club........Or to put all this lengthy explaining in a nutshell, 'Hey Lyle, What's up with the Ace Pot?" Gordy:cheers:

[jshrack]

"Hey Lyle, What's up with the Ace Pot?"
:biggrin2:

[jshrack]

Lyle asked me to post this:

"I promised the $315 ace pot from my weeklies to Tony C for his winter weeklies since that was the supposed continuation of the events that I was running.

Since you are (maybe?) running those events now then I would be happy to hand it over to you and/or Stimpi for your stuff at HB/DR."




First we should decide if all SDGA events are included in this Ace Pot.
I personally think the Four Mound events have more 'ACEable' holes but it could definitely increase turnout.
We have a lot of options including the dreaded cap per event... Any ideas?

[jshrack]

btw, thank you for the message Lyle!

[Gordy #21004]

Thanks Lyle for posting this information. If we could tell you that there will be two events per week through the winter season, with one at 4-mound every other week in lieu of one in town and designate the TD for each, would you be willing to offer a suggestion on how we could either divide the money between the TDs or have a system for transferring the money from TD to TD? .....The Open Board meeting to discuss the grant is coming right up, so let's include this among the matters we cover then with the intention of getting this tied up. Justin will be at the meeting anyway so who else involved in this can make it? If you can or can't make it please let us know here. If you have constructive input in the meantime please post it here. All in favor? Gordy:cheers:

[Wobbly Bob]

Who ran the SDGA Weekly event at High Bridge on Sunday, Jan. 23, 2011??

How many people played in this event?

I did not see a post on this thread saying that there would be an event on that day.

On the 22nd of January, Justin posted that there would be no event at High Bridge.

If someone wants to run an SDGA Weekly Event there are certain requirements that have to be met prior to the running of such an event.

The SDGA welcomes those players that would like to run a weekly event. But it has to be exactly that, A WEEKLY EVENT. You can't just decide that you don't want to play the weekly event being held at 4 Mound and decide to have one at High Bridge with a few friends.

The only people that have been recognized by the SDGA to run weeklies are;



Tony Costanzo
Justin Shrack
Stimpi
Bob Perrewe
Gordy Crafts


If you wish to run weeklies please contact any of the SDGA Board members so that the club knows about it and so we can get you the proper paperwork for running weeklies.

[jshrack]

Can we please add Cody Miller to that list?
He has offered to be a back-up TD for any weekly.

[Gordy #21004]

I spoke with Tony today. He ran weeklies for the Club through the month of October and will report back to the Club. He told me that Cody had continued running events at various times into the winter months. Its possible that Cody ran the event this past Sunday but I don't really know. It's possible that the event was held because someone thought that's what they planned to do all along without being aware of this discussion we are having lately. I don't believe we need to chastise someone just yet while our plate of facts is still a little light. I do think we need to make the effort to include Cody in this conversation considering he has made an effort to keep Weeklies going. Once everyone is reorganized and understands what everyone else is handling this will become very plain for all to see.....I will talk to Tony again tomorrow and will report back here with more detail from him. Can someone talk to Cody and get some feedback on how he's doing and and on what he's accomplished?:chug:

[Wobbly Bob]

I spoke with Tony today. He ran weeklies for the Club through the month of October and will report back to the Club. He told me that Cody had continued running events at various times into the winter months. Its possible that Cody ran the event this past Sunday but I don't really know. It's possible that the event was held because someone thought that's what they planned to do all along without being aware of this discussion we are having lately. I don't believe we need to chastise someone just yet while our plate of facts is still a little light. I do think we need to make the effort to include Cody in this conversation considering he has made an effort to keep Weeklies going. Once everyone is reorganized and understands what everyone else is handling this will become very plain for all to see.....I will talk to Tony again tomorrow and will report back here with more detail from him. Can someone talk to Cody and get some feedback on how he's doing and and on what he's accomplished?:chug:

Gordy, no chastisement was intended for anyone. Just an effort to hook up the people running events with the proper paperwork. :seeya:

[Wobbly Bob]

Can we please add Cody Miller to that list?
He has offered to be a back-up TD for any weekly.

Yes, he can be added to the list. I should also add Cory Davis to this list.

[Gordy #21004]

I talked to Tony this afternoon. He ran the events through the first time it snowed hard around the end of October. He conducted about seven events and averaged about 10 players per. He has approximately $70 in Ace Pot in hand and the same in player fees for the Club...... Kevin talked to Cody this morning and Cody is going to jump on this thread and fill us in on his progress......... Tony will come to the Open Board meeting on Tuesday; it would be nice if Cody and the fellas who jumped in this weekend to help are on hand as well. I know that Justin, Bob and myself will also be there. Thanks to all who are willing to buy into our Weeklies protocol. Gordy:chug:

[prospect]

So does that mean there is actually a $270 club ace pot?

[jshrack]

Please, do NOT just run an event without notifying Bob.
Please, do NOT just run an unscheduled event.
The event this Sunday undermined a club event that had been planned for weeks.
It also had an Ace Pot that the club was sponsoring without knowledge or authorization.
Probably not the best situation...

As for the Ace Pot, I will post that information when it is verified from Lyle and we have discussed the appropriate dispersion of the funds.

[Gordy #21004]

Everyone has been doing the right thing or is doing the right thing now. Once we get our protocol settled, then we can start smackin' on each other again ..:cheers:

[psychodwarf]

Everyone has been doing the right thing or is doing the right thing now. Once we get our protocol settled, then we can start smackin' on each other again ..:cheers:

YAY !!! can i be the SMACKER ? PLZ ,PLZ ,PLZ :jumpspin::cop::chinscratch:

[millerman731]

Hey guys this is cody i have been a litle in the dark as well tony had called me a few times this winter and asked me to run the events i have done so happly i have 70 dollers in my possesion that is half club funds and half ace pot funds i am willing to turn that over whenever i just need to know where to turn that into i am also going to give bob a call and get the skinny on when i should be running these and where i dont want to step on any toes by scheduling on days that already have an event i would like to also find a designated person to take the ace pot funds so they are available if someone hits it thanks guys any questions call me at 509-362-3101

[Wobbly Bob]

One of the items we will be discussing at the SDGA Board meeting on Feb. 1, 2011 will be consistency concerning the SDGA Weekly tournaments. We would like to have those people that run scheduled weekly events for the SDGA to attend this meeting so that we may get everyone on the same page.

While the board meeting is open to all SDGA members, we are asking the weekly TD's to come to this meeting so that we may get their input. Those TD's are;



Gordy Crafts
Bob Perrewe
Lyle Parks
Joe Royer
Joe Barnett
Steve Simmons
Tony Costanzo
Justin Shrack
Cory Davis
Cody Miller
Interested parties


This meeting will be held at Stadium Pizza at 7:00 pm on Tuesday, Feb. 1, 2011.

!!! See you there !!!

[jshrack]

I have talked to Lyle, Cody, and Bob.

We will be hosting the scheduled DOWNRIVER singles tomorrow at 10:30am.
Tee off will be as prompt as possible, please show up a little early.
There will be a $150 ACE POT for this event.

Don't forget to follow this up with Stimpi Ridge's event at 2pm!

Sunday's event will be HIGHBRIDGE doubles at noon.
Tee off will be prompt with another guaranteed $150 ACE POT.

Because of logistical problems the ACE POT will be available for payouts at Sunday's event.
Either Lyle will show with the funds on Sunday or I will make sure to pick them up prior to Doubles.

Hope to see you all there!!!
ps. I'm gonna bring the video camera so you should bring your 'A' game.

[Wobbly Bob]

The Handicap tournament scheduled at 4 Mound for 2/6/11 which is SBS has been canceled so that we won't miss the game.

The next scheduled Handicap will be held on Saturday 2/19/11 @ 11:00 am.

[jshrack]

Cole, I figured this would hold you over a couple extra days.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blum4fgOURc
no real editing, just a little zoom

[jshrack]

Sunday Doubles at Highbridge!!!

I know the weather forecast is calling for snow.
I will still be at hole 11 ready for the noon tee off.
$150 ACE POT!!! Hope to see ya there!

[jshrack]

Another quick Weekly Doubles video:
David and I are in this vid, we tied for 3rd with TEAM MILLER this week at (-6).
Tom and Greg are also in this vid, they tied for first at (-8).
Not sure on the other team, anyone care to share who took the playoff?


Ace Runs Galore!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w49Rye441DU

[Parks]

I dig the Peter, Bjorn & John.

[jshrack]

Kept on coming up on tom's ipod.
Figured it fit. I repeated the intro too long though.
always learning.

[jshrack]

Woot!
This weekend weeklies are all messed up!
Saturday Downriver will be cancelled. Go play the Chilly Bowl (http://www.nwdiscgolfnews.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5939)!

Sunday Singles will be a ONE DISC WONDER event.
Sunday Singles at Highbridge will be at an early 10am. One round, $150 ace pot.
This will allow travel to any Super Bowl events after the round without time pressure.

Bring ONLY ONE DISC (and a marker); don't bring a back-up, or a putter, or an exact replica, you get one disc on the course.
:pirate:

[Wobbly Bob]

The Board talked about the Ace Pot last night at the meeting. Here are what we came to agree upon.

People's Park, 4 Mound and Stimpi Ridge have their own separate Ace Pots.

Weeklies held at Downriver and High Bridge have a combined Ace Pot.

The Spokane Disc Golf Association does not run an Ace Pot, the TD's that run the events are responsible for the Ace Pot.

The SDGA does not provide seed money to kick start the Ace Pot.

The Ace Pot is capped at $150.

There must be a minimum of four people playing in the weekly event to collect the Ace Pot.

[Parks]

I'm a little late on this, but I just wanted to check in on some of the discussion that I missed regarding ace pots.

The Board talked about the Ace Pot last night at the meeting. Here are what we came to agree upon.

People's Park, 4 Mound and Stimpi Ridge have their own separate Ace Pots.

Weeklies held at Downriver and High Bridge have a combined Ace Pot.

This sounds good, except it sounds like this would lump together the regular DR/HB weekly ace pot with the DR glow ace pot? The two events have very different players.

The Spokane Disc Golf Association does not run an Ace Pot, the TD's that run the events are responsible for the Ace Pot.

This seems reasonable.

The SDGA does not provide seed money to kick start the Ace Pot.

I agree that the SDGA shouldn't be guaranteed to put forth any money for an event, but I think that this should be on an event-by-event basis. If we think we can make a good amount of money off a weekly, then I think its reasonable to consider seeding an ace pot or even guaranteeing a minimum. For example, the SDGA put forth the seed money and guaranteed $50 minimum for the events that Joe Royer started and I ran last year, and the SDGA made over $1000 off those events.

The Ace Pot is capped at $150.

I was kind of curious as to why this isn't left up to the TD. There were times last year where I had accumulated a $500+ ace pot and I raised the cap to $200, always making sure to announce it the week before to draw more players. However, if I only had $150 in my acepot, then a $100 cap made a lot more sense. Essentially, the TD just needs to make sure that they don't get cleaned out of their ace pot if 2-3 aces are hit in a row.

There must be a minimum of four people playing in the weekly event to collect the Ace Pot.

This is absolutely reasonable. Generally, if I had less than 6 people show then I wouldn't even run an event.

[psychodwarf]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wobbly Bob
The Ace Pot is capped at $150.

I was kind of curious as to why this isn't left up to the TD. There were times last year where I had accumulated a $500+ ace pot and I raised the cap to $200, always making sure to announce it the week before to draw more players. However, if I only had $150 in my acepot, then a $100 cap made a lot more sense. Essentially, the TD just needs to make sure that they don't get cleaned out of their ace pot if 2-3 aces are hit in a row.

this cap was decided by the TDS who run the weeklies .

Originally Posted by Wobbly Bob
The Board talked about the Ace Pot last night at the meeting. Here are what we came to agree upon.

People's Park, 4 Mound and Stimpi Ridge have their own separate Ace Pots.

Weeklies held at Downriver and High Bridge have a combined Ace Pot.

This sounds good, except it sounds like this would lump together the regular DR/HB weekly ace pot with the DR glow ace pot? The two events have very different players.

i also tried to disagree on this point. BUT the DR glo ace pot WILL start this season AND be seeded by the TD. OPTIONAL FOR PLAYERS TO PUT IN ON . because like you said the glow nights have a varied amount of players with VERY different playing skills then the nomarl weekily DAY players

[jshrack]

This sounds good, except it sounds like this would lump together the regular DR/HB weekly ace pot with the DR glow ace pot? The two events have very different players.

The SDGA 'weeklies' will only include our weekend single/doubles events.
The glow disc golf will not be considered as part of the 'weeklies' events... This should clarify for the purposes of the Ace Pot.
Glow Golf will be it's own event.
:biggrin2:

[psychodwarf]

The SDGA 'weeklies' will only include our weekend single/doubles events.
The glow disc golf will not be considered as part of the 'weeklies' events... This should clarify for the purposes of the Ace Pot.
Glow Golf will be it's own event.
:biggrin2:

it is NICE to know justin THAT YOU HAVE DECIEDED what I WILL do with the glow nights. SEEINGS HOW BOB AND I HAVE STARTED IT WE WILL CONTINUE RUNNING IT.. YOU MIGHT WANT TO ASK THE TD WHAT THEY WANT TO DO WITH THIER TOURNAMENT INSTEAD OF JUST TELLING THEM WHAT TO DO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BTW. when are you going to get your shovel and pick out of my truck?

[Wobbly Bob]

The SDGA 'weeklies' will only include our weekend single/doubles events.
The glow disc golf will not be considered as part of the 'weeklies' events... This should clarify for the purposes of the Ace Pot.
Glow Golf will be it's own event.
:biggrin2:

The Moonlight Madness adds to the SDGA treasury. :chinscratch: It is, has been and will be considered as part of the "Weekly Events". :rockon: It will have it's own Ace Pot and will abide by the same rules. :biggrin2:

While the MM may have different players, they are disc golfers that enjoy the sport and support the club, please, let's not forget that. :nono:

[jshrack]

wow Joe... calm the eff down.

THIS WAS DISCUSSED!!!

While you guys may have been intoxicated during this conversation, we did discuss exactly the point I made. We came to the conclusion that each TD will address the ACE POT their own way... with permission from the club. Joe, you decided to seed your own pot and specifically said so.

We talked about the fact that they are COMPLETELY different people playing and paying into each pot... thus it makes perfect sense.

I haven't made any decisions for you, this was the whole point of getting the TD's together at the last meeting for discussion. This was the agreement. I am sorry if you don't remember. Please be present at the discussion before you try to tear me a new one over a point that was individually asked, addressed, discussed, and decided.

As for the shovel and pick... I would love to snag 'em sometime soon.
I was wondering where they disappeared to. I looked all over #17 where I left them sitting.
Thanks for grabbing 'em.


I totally understand that MM is a club event. :)
I understand that Joe is running it. :dancing:
I understand that MM golfers are paying into the club AND that event's Ace Pot. :biggrin2:
We agreed that the weekly events that are currently running have their own ace pot as does every series of events.:shocked:
This shouldn't invalidate any golfers, members, or TD's. :nono:
We pay into the ACE POT we are hoping to collect from at any event, the club does not carry these ace pots over to seed other events.:cop:
Each TD that showed agreed to these concepts... I don't understand the problem.:yawn:

I guess I really just don't understand what decision I supposedly made for you that wasn't discussed and made by the club at the meeting last Tuesday. Bob, I also don't understand how we discussed that MM was a different event with a different ace pot yet now you say it is the same event with a different ace pot.
"Weeklies held at Downriver and High Bridge have a combined Ace Pot."
We (cody and I) made sure that MM was NOT considered part of the 'Weekly Events' nor their ace pot for just this reason.
Our club discussed this and agreed upon separate ace pots and thus separate events for clarification.


Truthfully, I am starting to think we should hold meetings in a location without the option of sharing a pitcher or sneaking out for a toke. This could circumvent a lot of our management issues and our meetings might actually function.

[jshrack]

While the MM may have different players, they are disc golfers that enjoy the sport and support the club, please, let's not forget that. :nono:

Same with the Four Mound events and People's Park events...
I didn't make any insinuation otherwise... why would you assume so?
My point is that we agreed that MM is NOT a 'Weeklies' event nor is it part of our 'Weeklies' Ace Pot.
We agreed that each event will have it's own ace pot determined by the TD.
If we have different TD's, different ace pots, different players, and we agreed they would be different events... why would we change that now?

[jshrack]

Looking back... I see what one of the issues might be: naming conventions.
Would it clarify things if we called the weekend (DR/HB alternating Singles and Doubles) events by a different name?
SDGA Weeklies sounds misleading, like they are the only weekly events being held by the SDGA.
Maybe the Weekend Throwdowns, the SDGA Alternating Singles/Doubles, SDGA Weekend Warriors, etc.?
Something that clarifies that they are not our only weekly events.
Instead they are part of a specific series with a collective ace pot?

[psychodwarf]

While you guys may have been intoxicated during this conversation for one I DONT drink my self stupid and i was not intoxicated your voting DID NOT have ALL the TDS . i voted to seed my ace pot because i got tried of bickering over it PLUS when did JEFF CRUM EVER TD an event ?
As for the shovel and pick... I would love to snag 'em sometime soon.
I was wondering where they disappeared to. I looked all over #17 where I left them sitting.
Thanks for grabbing 'em. as for these YOU LEFT them in my truck at ICE BOWL .

wow Joe... calm the eff down.
as for this one THE NAME I SIGN IN WITH IS NOT A JOKE !!!!! II AM VERY UNSTABLE as kevin would say " dont poke the bear " please try and remember that ...

[psychodwarf]

justin ... it took bob and i` almost 3 years to get a CROWD to even show up for night golf . i have worked really hard to have something going on at night down at DR so other ppl will QUIT throwing garbage and other s@#t down there and now it is not even march yet and i am getting calls and ppl asking me if i will do the glow nights . so yes the glow thing IS a big issue with me .. also my ppl skils teacher is mad at me for being rude and unsportsman like to you in the forum so i say this with great sadness " i am sorry to you " i am having some legal problems that are very upseting to me and i took it out on you which i am NOT supposed to do THAT anymore(state mandated) so again i am sorry ."Weeklies held at Downriver and High Bridge have a combined Ace Pot." yes justin this is misleading i agree. so maybe naming them a little differrent would help a lot in understanding WHICH "ace pot " you are playing for ..

[Wobbly Bob]

All of the events that add to the SDGA Treasury and are on the schedule more than one time a year are considered Weekly Events.

[Wobbly Bob]

Justin, what's the chances that you guys could alternate singles and doubles at HB & DR? If you did, I could get some singles scores for each course and get an SSA for both courses.

[jshrack]

Bob, as far as I know, this is the plan.
10:30 Singles at downriver tomorrow, I will not be able to attend but will ask cody to collect cards after the round.
Noon Doubles at Highbridge *on Sunday*

[BakederThinU]

Noon Doubles at HighBridge on...... Sat. or Sun... I would assume Sunday since singles would be at 10:30 at complete different course and we wouldn't have 2 different events so closely together on same day?
But someone said they were confused as of which day it would be

[jshrack]

sorry bout that, thanks for the heads up

[jshrack]

Looks like it got run as downriver doubles today.
We will take a vote tomorrow to decide singles or doubles.
Sorry about the mix up today! See you all tomorrow, tee off at noon.

[Yoduh]

Joe, I like your login name..:explode::shocked::explode::cheers:

[psychodwarf]

Joe, I like your login name..:explode::shocked::explode::cheers:
thanks yoduh ... but some ppl still think its a joke ... they will find out soon enough though THAT IS NOT THE CASE .

[Wobbly Bob]

The Saturday Weekly will be held at 4 Mound at 11:00 am this week. :rockon:

We will be playing on the Porcupine Course this week. :evilgrin:

Come on out and play some doubles, or singles or whatever. :seeya:

Two divisions, Pro & Am. :yay:

We'll take a poll of the players out there to see what format we'll play. :dancing:

[jshrack]

Wait... We are not playing the handicap course?
I thought this was part of the handicap series?
Why the sudden change?

I sure don't plan on making the trip for a random format.
Especially not for Porcupine, not in this seasonal weather.

[General Scales]

I think the event at Four Mounds will probably be the only weekly that I attend for awhile. I love Porcupine but I am not one who likes to play handicap golf. I can never get out to the Highbridge or Downriver weeklies because I'm usually stuck working but not this weekend!

Porcupine should be good too. I figure that the weather has been somewhat decent. Might be a little soggy but no worse then trying to play Corbin after a huge rainfall.

[Wobbly Bob]

Wait... We are not playing the handicap course?
I thought this was part of the handicap series?
Why the sudden change?

I sure don't plan on making the trip for a random format.
Especially not for Porcupine, not in this seasonal weather.

Justin, if you have a group that wants to play handicap, I'm fine with that.

The road out to the 1st tee on the Hawk will be muddy and you'll have to walk out there from Tourney Central.

[BakederThinU]

I thought Shrack would be eager to throw one of the other courses there
LOL although I was planning on kickin some BUTT's this weekend on the:drool: tart:nahnah: course. but I'll just go with plan B same as A just on porcupine LOL I'm joking

[General Scales]

Is anyone going up to Four Mounds this weekend from the Spokane Valley? I would love to go play in a weekly once this year and I love the Porcupine course. I've got gas money and parking money for Gordy's five dollar fee.

PM responses or just post here. I'm always on here.

Thanks
Stuart

[coryreu]

Wait... We are not playing the handicap course?
Nope.
I thought this was part of the handicap series?
It is.
Why the sudden change?
Sometimes a little change is cool.

I sure don't plan on making the trip for a random format.
Why not.
Especially not for Porcupine, not in this seasonal weather.
The winter season has been pretty mild if you ask me.

Porcupine is one of my all time fav courses. Have yet to personally beat that damn course:headbang:. I might just be down for this 4 mound round. BRINGIN IT!!!:biggrin2:

[Gordy #21004]

The main reason we're changing is because the spur road out to where we congregate to play handicap on the winter modified Hawk is because the warmer weather leaves the spur road to the meeting place very mushy.
When we play Porky this Sat. we'll all be able to park at Tourney Central and start right at Porky # 1 ,2, or 3 or 4. There is still plenty of snow to play on, Justin, if that's what you're worried about, and a handicap card will, of course, be available. The Climb up the Central Mound and the subsequent climb down is completely clear (Holes # 10, 11 &12)
This event will still provide $1 per player to the SDGA and will provide its own Ace Pot (the Ace pot stands at $15 plus $1 each from whoever shows up Sat.) I know this must be a big let-down for those who were pining away to throw multiple aces on the abbreviated winter short course, but its time to get the Spring courses in order. I hope that as the season advances the golfing public will appreciate the private course opportunities that both Stimpi Ridge and Four Mound DGR offer.:chug::chug::chug::chug::chug:

[jshrack]

Handicap Series...
Kinda assume this means we would be playing Handicap at every event.
And you, Bob, insisted on a handicap course to keep things legit throughout the series.

Now it's a random format on a completely new course? (much longer, way harder)
That is messed up for a TD to pull complete 180 on those who have been playing the series.

I am glad so many people are happy about Porky...
I couldn't really stand that course when I played it last year in the damp.
I can't justify paying to play this course in the slop, especially since I have only seen 2/3 of it.
Gordy laughed , last event, when I asked him how long it would be until the other courses were ready for play... now it's part of the series.

It all just seems stupid and backward to me.
Make a plan, stick to it. Not a tough concept.

Or maybe it is, looking at our club history...

[jshrack]

Anyway... sticking to our original plan, Cody and I will be hosting Sunday Singles at noon, this weekend, at High Bridge.
Still workin the $150 ace pot, lets see that it gets paid out this weekend!
*Please keep your scorecards so the TD can collect them this week*


Hopefully the new scorecards will be ready and available by Sunday!
Thanx again to Bob and Gordy for the initiative!

[Wobbly Bob]

Handicap Series...
Kinda assume this means we would be playing Handicap at every event.Any Ams that show can play the Porcupine Course or the Handicap Course and it will still be handicap. Any course can be handicapped.
Handicap Series...And you, Bob, insisted on a handicap course to keep things legit throughout the series.
Justin, if this were a true series I would be putting part of each entry fee away for a Final event. Since I haven't done this we play in a handicap weekly tournament. Gordy made the handicap course as a courtesy to me. He wanted me to be able to play and knows I don't breathe well when climbing the Mounds out there.
Handicap Series...Now it's a random format on a completely new course? (much longer, way harder)
When we talked yesterday I told you that you could play whatever course you wanted to, have you forgotten that?? If you think Porky's hard wait till you play Cape Fear.
Handicap Series...That is messed up for a TD to pull complete 180 on those who have been playing the series.
I believe that you as a TD have made a complete 180 from your format when you held the One Disc Wonder. Why did you do that?? Was it possible that you thought it might be fun??
Handicap Series...I am glad so many people are happy about Porky...
I couldn't really stand that course when I played it last year in the damp.
I can't justify paying to play this course in the slop, especially since I have only seen 2/3 of it.It sounds to me that you don't like courses that are a little bit more challenging. Of course you know that the more you play a course the better you become at playing that specific course.
Handicap Series...Gordy laughed , last event, when I asked him how long it would be until the other courses were ready for play... now it's part of the series. That was four weeks ago and at that time, just like now it could snow a foot or two out there in a day.

Handicap Series...It all just seems stupid and backward to me.
Make a plan, stick to it. Not a tough concept.

Or maybe it is, looking at our club history...This sounds like something Yo Duh would post. Remember, disc golfers are adults that go out and throw pieces of plastic around and then chase them. And don't forget to have some fun!

[coryreu]

Handicap Series...
Kinda assume this means we would be playing Handicap at every event.
And you, Bob, insisted on a handicap course to keep things legit throughout the series.

Now it's a random format on a completely new course? (much longer, way harder)
That is messed up for a TD to pull complete 180 on those who have been playing the series.
Try not looking at the handicap as a series but as a running tally of stats. Once you have an established handicap you can use it on any course. In all actuality, playing a harder course will give you a higher score and pad your handicap for the next time.
I am glad so many people are happy about Porky...
I get a slight sense of sarcasm that suggests you could care less about the happiness of others in this situation.


It all just seems stupid and backward to me.
Make a plan, stick to it. Not a tough concept.

Or maybe it is, looking at our club history...
These words are a little disturbing to me. It seems like you're bashing the club a little. Specifically when you say "it all" and then follow up with the words "stupid and backward". I would like to assume that you're only speaking about the "tough concept of making a plan sticking to it". But I can't help tying those words in with "our club's history" because you did say "all".

[jshrack]

Cory, you are correct and have read between the lines quite well.
You have a knack for getting right to my points.

I am very frustrated when it comes to the club... not necessarily this situation, i apologize for the misplaced angst.

Trying to put the grant together really made clear for me, who is supporting the club and who is under-cutting the process. I have completely re-written the grant twice but it is all for nothing because:
I have been waiting on our financial records for quite a while now... can't do that on my own.
I am also waiting on the portion that Jeff asked to include.

The Grant was all supposed to be completed and turned in, yesterday; yet I can't even ask for signatures until I have everybody else's part of the project assimilated. Thus, I will be waiting until at least Tuesday before Bressler will be back in his office. Lets hope he is available after I get off work; and willing to sign off on what I have...

Along with that, I have Jeff breathing down my neck because Gordy and Bob didn't get his input on the new High Bridge Scorecards. The ones which are almost an exact copy of the scorecards he made 2 weeks earlier, without asking anybody's input. Yes, the scorecards which use Jeff's distances from the signs he insisted on putting up without letting the club preview them.
I feel like the pot is yelling at me because the kettle is black!

Bob and Gordy changing their "Handicap SERIES" is the least of my issues here... Having a plan and following through is helpful though.
I am really getting frustrated with the board members ignoring the club until they can make their own individual decisions, without Club or Board input. The pissing contest our Board Members are having amongst each other isn't helping this situation. If our board members don't want to work with each other or the club members... maybe they could re-evaluate their intentions and save us all the grief.

I am very quickly falling the direction of so many others who intended to help the sport of disc golf through partnership with the SDGA:
Chris Re, Eric Brown, Jeremy Thornton, etc...

Good Grief!!!
*end rant*

[jshrack]

Cody and I will be hosting Sunday Singles at noon, this weekend, at High Bridge.
Still workin' the $150 ace pot, lets see that it gets paid out this weekend!
*Please keep your scorecards so the TD can collect them this week*


Hopefully the new scorecards will be ready and available!
Thanx again to Bob and Gordy for getting them printed!

[Sky Pilot]

"I am also waiting on the portion that Jeff asked to include."

Sorry, this post is dated 2-19 and I sent the sponsorship information and the sheet on improvements on 2-18 at 3:02 and 3:28PM. I could have got the e-mail address wrong but I don't think so. Check your inbox.

"Along with that, I have Jeff breathing down my neck because Gordy and Bob didn't get his input on the new High Bridge Scorecards."

Actually there wasn't any 'breathing down the neck'. I wasn't even angry. I hadn't seen the 'new' scorecards so I merely asked if the distances Gordy and I spent time obtaining were on the new scorecards. I asked this for two reasons: number one, because I was recently at a tournament where I was handed an scorecard that had outdated information about the distances at High Bridge. Number two, I heard that 500 scorecards were printed - and that would be a lot of wrong scorecards if they had the 'inaccurate' info on them...

That was why I was inspired to create an accurate scorecard. I handed these out at a recent weekly and everyone appreciated it because there were no other scorecards available. Frankly, I didn't create it to offend anyone or irritate the masses. I did it because I thought it would be helpful. As it turned out - it was helpful, and it was fun doing it.

P.S. Yes it's true, I din't ask for your 'input'.

There's an old adage, "Some see the glass as half empty and some see it as half full..."


Sky Pilot
:angel:

[jshrack]

Nope, didn't get any info from you jeff.
You forwarded me a sponsor flyer from your P2 guy.
That is all.

[Sky Pilot]

Sorry Justin,

I stuck a random "c" in your e-mail adddress and I've resent the info form. You got the other information

Sky Pilot

[jshrack]

As for the "one disc wonder", there wasn't a scheduled weekly that day.
As a result, Cody and I asked the club (at an open meeting) for permission to hold the event and use the weekly ace pot.
We merely took on a new club event after the four mound schedule got changed and our golfers were left without a sunday event.
Again, it all stems from not following a previously set schedule.

[Wobbly Bob]

Well, yesterday was the last Handicap out at 4 Mound for the winter season. We played on the Porcupine Course.

Here are the results from yesterday's play.

PRO DIVISION
Big Mike Leslie - 59 - $19
David Bodey - 59 - $19
Cole Swanson - 59 - $19
Tim Vache - 60 - $5


AM HANDICAP DIVISION
JJ Atkins - (58-3.6) = 54.4 - $20
Curt Ransford - (61-6.3) = 54.7 - $17
J.P. Russo - (62-7.2) = 54.8 - $14
Drew Scott - (64-9) = 55 - $12
Lucas Burgess - (65-9.9) = 55.1 - $11
Gordy Crafts - (68-12.6) = 55.4 - $10
Cody Miller - (70-14.4) = 55.6 - $4
Deron Van Soest - (70-14.4) = 55.6 - $4


The 4 Mound ace Pot is up to $50 thanks to a $20 donation by JJ Atkins.

I wonder if anyone told Big Mike that an JJ shot a stroke better than he did yesterday??

Could be one of those don't poke the bear moments.

[jshrack]

Sunday Singles Results
First off, way to go Tom Stephens!!!
Tom aced #18, with a thumber (what a surprise,) to pull in $150.

PRO DIVISION:
Wayne Miller (46) -8 $30
Tom Stephens (47) -7 $15
Tim Vache (51) -3 $5
Erik Brown (52) -2
Mike Leslie (53) -1
Edgar (54) 0
Ben Carpenter (55) 1
Derik (55) 1
Cole Swanson (57) 3
David Bodie (58) 4


AM DIVISION:
Justin Shrack (51) -3 $20
Curt Ransford (53) -1 $10
Luke Burgess (54) 0
Ryan Brown (54) 0 $5 Ryan won the playoff
Cody Miller (55) 1
Frank Luna (57) 3
David Smith (58) 4
Kevin Sakus (63) 9
Jeff Crum (71) 17

Bob, scorecards are attached.
One of the cards was marked on the wrong holes... I tried to fix it assuming they started on Hole 11.
Please check your own numbers to make sure I didn't make any mistakes...

[Parks]

Whats Big Mike doing in town? Cool to see out-of-towners at the weeklies.

[jshrack]

Saturday Singles at Downriver!!!
starts at 10:30, please be on time (or early!)
$150 ace pot
$7 to play! ($5 to payout, $1 to ace pot, $1 to SDGA)

*Please keep your scorecards so the TDs can collect them*

**ribbons and hand warmers are suggested**

[jshrack]

Sunday Doubles @ High Bridge!!!
starts at Noon, please be on time (or early!)
$150 ace pot
$7 to play! ($5 to payout, $1 to ace pot, $1 to SDGA)

**ribbons and hand warmers are suggested**

Forecast includes light snow and ~30 degree weather.
Should be a beautiful day to see an ace!

[jshrack]

Both events only had 3 golfers show.
No official rounds were thrown nor scores kept.

[jshrack]

Downriver Doubles will be happening tomorrow at 10:30am.
ACE POT still at $150!!!
*Bring your hand warmers and towels*

I highly doubt Stimpi is running his event ... Good Luck STEVE!
As always, please check his site (http://www.stimpiridge.com/) for updates!

High Bridge Singles will follow on Sunday at Noon!

There will also be a CTP prior to the event, show up early!!!
$1 per throw or $5 for 6 throws.
(I can award one prize for every $10 raised)

[Stimpi]

Hey, what's the idea of OUTING me in AZ? Do you think this is Facebook?
Now my house is going to be burgled, and it's going to be YOUR fault, Justin.
Never, ever broadcast my whereabouts. Don't you know I'm a disc golfing spy?

[jshrack]

I'm confused... Sarcasm or ?
Anyway, have fun doin whatever you are doing!
At home or away!

[jshrack]

Well, yesterday was the last Handicap out at 4 Mound for the winter season. We played on the Porcupine Course.

(Bob has been extremely good about communicating in this regard.)

Assuming this message was correct, since I have heard nothing further:

High Bridge Singles Sunday will be held at Noon!
ACE POT still at $150!!!
*Bring your towels*

If there is also a Four Mound event happening please let me know.

[Wobbly Bob]

Gordy will be out at 4 Mound around 10 AM. Derek will be there helping him get everything in place for next weekend. There will be unorganized play for those that wish to get a tune up at 4 Mound. You should check out the new water hazards.

[jshrack]

There are NO weekly Downriver or High Bridge events scheduled this week.
Please consider playing in the St. Patty's Classic (http://www.nwdiscgolfnews.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6662) at Four Mound (http://www.nwdiscgolfnews.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=116) instead.

[jshrack]

Well... Cody is tearing it up at CSI this weekend and I am having car troubles.
As a result, there will NOT be any official Downriver Doubles, tomorrow at 10:30.
I will make sure I am available for High Bridge Singles at NOON on Sunday though.
The ACE pot will be $150, to be paid when Cody returns to the 'kan.

[jshrack]

I talked to Kevin this morning while at the service place.
I passed the torch to him for Doubles today, he was happy to oblige.
Hopefully everyone who wanted to play was able to find Kevin, sorry for the late notice.

I will be starting our usual Sunday High Bridge round tomorrow at Noon.
We will be playing singles on the new B/A course set-up.

[jshrack]

The Sunday round at High Bridge was a rough one when you look over the scores. I am not sure if it was the weather, the new layouts, or excessive fun on the Tees... oh well.
There were a few good rounds, a few bad rounds, lots of 'Jazz Hands,' and an ACE.


Congrats to Derek! He drilled number 15 with a perfect line to pull in the $150 ace pot. :yay:

The hot round went to Deren Case with a 49 (-5).
Tim Vache was hot on his heels with a 51 (-3).
Taking the Ams, with the 3rd best score of the day, Chris H. with a 53 (-1).

Scorecards are attached!

[Gordy #21004]

Are there still Sunday weeklies at Highbridge?

[Wobbly Bob]

Cody has asked that I post that the weeklies will be moving from Saturday and Sunday to Tuesday and Thursday.

The reason for the change is that most of the competitors are away playing other tournaments on the weekends.

The new start time will be 5:30 pm for both days.

Doubles and Singles will alternate from one day to the other each week.

For more info contact Cody Miller.