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Chuck Kennedy
October 28th, 2010, 08:10 AM
http://www.pdga.com/2011-nt-goes-elite

Matt B.
October 28th, 2010, 08:44 AM
http://www.pdga.com/2011-nt-goes-elite

BSF two days only, and in June. Interesting.

Bullseye
October 28th, 2010, 10:36 AM
BSF two days only, and in June. Interesting.

As far as Mittl and I are aware, it will be a single three day weekend.

snap7times
October 28th, 2010, 11:20 AM
wow, that's new... a very interesting change, masters cup is not on there, but king of the lake is, heard great things about that, guess tahoe and reno gonna be a desination spot next summer. I was worried I was gonna have to miss BSF due to Deaf Nationals over memorial day weekend, now I can do both whee...

Bullseye
October 28th, 2010, 01:08 PM
wow, that's new... a very interesting change, masters cup is not on there, but king of the lake is, heard great things about that, guess tahoe and reno gonna be a desination spot next summer. I was worried I was gonna have to miss BSF due to Deaf Nationals over memorial day weekend, now I can do both whee...

I would suspect the people who normally run the Masters Cup will be busy enough running Pro Worlds.

Matt B.
October 28th, 2010, 01:10 PM
As far as Mittl and I are aware, it will be a single three day weekend.

Just going by that announcement, not trying to start rumors. Does this mean you are co-TDing the BSF this year Mr. Hagerty?

Bullseye
October 28th, 2010, 01:35 PM
Just going by that announcement, not trying to start rumors. Does this mean you are co-TDing the BSF this year Mr. Hagerty?

Yes. Mike Phillips is taking a well deserved break this year.

Sausage Fingers
October 28th, 2010, 03:31 PM
As far as Mittl and I are aware, it will be a single three day weekend.

The real question is are we still going with the AM/Pro split weekends...:chinscratch:

:pirate:

Bullseye
October 28th, 2010, 04:01 PM
As far as Mittl and I are aware, it will be a single three day weekend.

The real question is are we still going with the AM/Pro split weekends...:chinscratch:

:pirate:

And to think I thought I had pre-answered that question.

Sausage Fingers
October 28th, 2010, 04:08 PM
And to think I thought I had pre-answered that question.

Sorry, reading too fast at work for full comprehension...thanks for the assistance Jeff. My frazzled brain thanks you.:headbang:

:pirate:

purediscgolf
October 28th, 2010, 04:11 PM
Jeff mentioned it was a "single" three day event......Could mean joined weekends. That would be great it we can fit in the format. I like the gallery full of AMs after they are done playing.....

Bullseye
October 28th, 2010, 04:26 PM
Jeff mentioned it was a "single" three day event......Could mean joined weekends. That would be great it we can fit in the format. I like the gallery full of AMs after they are done playing.....

Yes, we tried the dual weekends last year with the objective of getting as many players into the event as possible, but it did take away some of the amazing festival feel of the event. Unfortunately, this means we will not have as many spots available for players.

Needless to say, you'll not be signing up on the day of the event :p

Tim
October 28th, 2010, 04:36 PM
I'm glad you guys are going back to the old format, or something similar. I completely understand the reasoning behind the split weekend, but as an am, it really took the wind out of my sails last year. Jeff, are you filling in for Flash this year, or just being the voice?

Bullseye
October 28th, 2010, 05:01 PM
I'm glad you guys are going back to the old format, or something similar. I completely understand the reasoning behind the split weekend, but as an am, it really took the wind out of my sails last year. Jeff, are you filling in for Flash this year, or just being the voice?

Flash is taking a break this year. Hopefully he'll be back next year so I can play again :p

snap7times
October 28th, 2010, 05:14 PM
I think we are missing the more important part of having both events on the same weekend, is that the Pros can watch the Ams and learn a thing or two ;)...

Sausage Fingers
October 28th, 2010, 06:42 PM
Needless to say, you'll not be signing up on the day of the event :p

More like: Needless to say, you'll not be signing up 2 minutes and 30 seconds after registration opens...:jumpspin:

:pirate:

smobro
October 28th, 2010, 08:26 PM
More like: Needless to say, you'll not be signing up 2 minutes and 30 seconds after registration opens...:jumpspin:

:pirate:

I heard that registration for the BSF 2011 will be awarded to the winners of a new TV reality show called the "Lazy Race". The show will feature teams of DG'rs competing each week. The winning team each week will be granted immediate entry into the BSF 2011. The twist is that the teams must consume large quantities of alcohol and other refreshments prior to each round of golf. Hmmm....... that sounds familiar. :chug:
It could work.

snap7times
October 28th, 2010, 08:53 PM
could do it by divisions. grandmaster and above at 6am, masters at 7am, women at 8am, ams at 6pm, pros at 7pm heh. or mega lottery? $20, turn that ball, draw 160 names? heh oh boy... i see why flash retired at such a young age...

NWDiscer
October 29th, 2010, 06:56 AM
Needless to say, you'll not be signing up on the day of the event :p


how many "Golden Tickets" this year? :whistler:

Sausage Fingers
October 29th, 2010, 08:52 AM
could do it by divisions. grandmaster and above at 6am, masters at 7am, women at 8am, ams at 6pm, pros at 7pm heh. or mega lottery? $20, turn that ball, draw 160 names? heh oh boy... i see why flash retired at such a young age...

I don' think it will be done by divisions...:whistler:

:pirate:

Kenny B
October 29th, 2010, 11:18 AM
:seeya: I have an unsolicited suggestion...lets give registration priority to those who volunteered last year.

As you may have guessed, I volunteered last year! :wink2:

NWDiscer
October 29th, 2010, 11:33 AM
:seeya: I have an unsolicited suggestion...lets give registration priority to those who volunteered last year.

As you may have guessed, I volunteered last year! :wink2:

So how was the party? :blush:

GettinBetter
October 29th, 2010, 11:36 AM
Ok, to make it fair for AMS in the BSF, I think there should be a priority to those that did not get in last year. I was on the waiting list and did not get in. There should also be a priority for those who finished well last year.

To recap there should be a lot of slots that are set aside for certain individuals. If you decide to not hold spots for players on the wait list there should be a qualification for the spots. To have the people with the best internet connection be the ones to get it is just wrong, and I hope is not repeated.

Uhlman
October 29th, 2010, 11:44 AM
Ok, to make it fair for AMS in the BSF, I think there should be a priority to those that did not get in last year. I was on the waiting list and did not get in. There should also be a priority for those who finished well last year.

To recap there should be a lot of slots that are set aside for certain individuals. If you decide to not hold spots for players on the wait list there should be a qualification for the spots. To have the people with the best internet connection be the ones to get it is just wrong, and I hope is not repeated.
I like that Idea.

DMajor
October 29th, 2010, 11:51 AM
To have the people with the best internet connection be the ones to get it is just wrong, and I hope is not repeated.

I see no difference in the above statement and the following:

To have the people with internet connections be the ones to get it is just wrong.

Flash
October 29th, 2010, 07:41 PM
Since I am not running it this year or playing in it this year (2011) I figure I can stir the pot. My qualifications are: I worked on the BSF team or was a TD for the event since 2005 so here goes.

It should be an Advanced only event again for the Amateur side of the coin. Separate registration times to prevent people from jumping ship to get to the am side of the event. Pro registration first then amateur. Must have unregistered from the pro side 48 hours before the am side opens. 160 Pro spots and 144 Am spots. Max 72 MA1's due to the 3 round two day format for the A-Tier.

Am Guidelines for registration should be:
1. A current PDGA member at time of sign up
2. Registration by Player rating broken down into 4 brackets for MA1
2.a Bracket 1 955 and above first day
2.b Bracket 2 945 and above starting day 2
2.c Bracket 3 935 and above starting day 3
2.d Bracket 4 all others starting day 4
3. Must have played in a B tier or higher event in your disc golf career.
4. Divisional numbers reserved for the first 4 days, based on historical registration numbers. After the 4 days it is a free for all to fill any remaining spots
5. Minimum of 4 golfers to make a division


Pro Guidelines for registration should be:
1. 2010 BSF winners and 2011 NT winners
2. Must be a current PDGA member at time of sign-up
3. Must have taken the rules test before signing up
4. Registration by Player rating broken down into 4 brackets for MPO
4.a Bracket 1 1000 and above first day
4.b Bracket 2 985 and above starting day 2
4.c Bracket 3 960 and above starting day 3
4.d Bracket 4 all others starting day 4
5. Divisional spots reserved for the first 4 days, based on historical registration numbers. After the 4 days it is a free for all to fill any remaining spots
6. Minimum of 4 golfers to make a division

OK I am outta here!

smobro
October 30th, 2010, 11:10 PM
As a low rated advanced player that has played this event several times, I completely disagree with Flash from an emotional stand point.
As a logical human, I understand why he is suggesting using PDGA ratings to determine the order for registration.
Do any other Elite events use or will use this design for their registration order?

rainydaysteve
October 31st, 2010, 12:17 PM
I agree with smobro...emotionally I'd like to play but from a logical point of view I'm OK with accepting something like Flash recommends. It may be that this event is rising up out of the reach of more casual players (like myself) and that's OK if it means good things for one of my favorite hobbies.

One other thought...I'd be willing to play something less formal during the week either before or after the big event. Nice to see how amazing the pros are when compared with my own game :-)

NWDiscer
October 31st, 2010, 07:05 PM
As a low rated advanced player that has played this event several times, I completely disagree with Flash from an emotional stand point.
As a logical human, I understand why he is suggesting using PDGA ratings to determine the order for registration.
Do any other Elite events use or will use this design for their registration order?


i do not think any other events use anything like what Flash has suggested :confused: i have been proven wrong on here before....:whistler:


but i also do not believe that there is another event in the country that sells out like this either :wink2: :yay::cheers:

i have missed the last couple of years :( while still volunteering is real cool, i am thinking about taking a shot at all the "young old farts" :whistler: .... 1 last time :rolleyes2:

Flash
October 31st, 2010, 09:50 PM
Guys,

I understand your frustration but I only said rating bracketing for MA1 and MPO not MM1 or MS1 or any other advanced division. I see you read my post with emotion not logic. I wrote it from a logical point of view. The largest demands on the event are clearly in MA1 and MPO

smobro
November 1st, 2010, 12:14 AM
Guys,

I understand your frustration but I only said rating bracketing for MA1 and MPO not MM1 or MS1 or any other advanced division. I see you read my post with emotion not logic. I wrote it from a logical point of view. The largest demands on the event are clearly in MA1 and MPO

You got me. I quick scanned it and just saw the ratings and not the specifics. My bad.

Kenny B
November 10th, 2010, 03:53 PM
So how was the party? :blush:

I didn't make it to the party. I live too far away from Portland to have made it.