new in FG

[Trozzle!!!]

I have an idea for a great course in the Forest Grove area for a nice new course. I remember this picnic, day use area I used to go to outside of FG, in Gales Creek. The area would be great for a disc course. Personally I would love to just have the Hagg Crew make this another of our courses, but we have no funding. honestly I dont want Stumptown any part of Hagg. I like the idea of keeping it "ours". But, with Hornings being top notch, and Stub Stewart going in, I think this would add to the west Wa county disc golf scene. So, whoever you have on Stumptown who is the course development guys, please have them contact me. I would love this to be another Hagg crew thing, but I am gonna leave it up to Stumptown cause I think it will be a hard sell.

[Trozzle!!!]

If Stumptown doesnt get in touch with me on this, I am making it my goal as a Hagg crew to make it happen

[Bruce]

Troy, try not to shut out Stumptown man. Hagg could be great if it had the help and resources needed to get it there. Look at Milo for example. Stumptown has helped a TON, and yet its still the "Portland Roc's" baby.

[Trozzle!!!]

Not hatin on Stumptown. The club does many great things. But, at this point we dont want it involved with Hagg. Maybe someday we will look at that option.

[sillybizz]

Not hatin on Stumptown. The club does many great things. But, at this point we dont want it involved with Hagg. Maybe someday we will look at that option.

:confused:

Could you elaborate? I don't see what the problem is with bringing in a large club that has money and resources to make your course better.

[KenGilmore]

Maybe the Hagg crew's idea of "better" is different than everybody else's? :confused:

:confused:

Could you elaborate? I don't see what the problem is with bringing in a large club that has money and resources to make your course better.

[Sam]

Some people value their perceived power and control over what would be best for everyone. Sad...

[KenGilmore]

Maybe the Hagg crew can work on the new course in Gales Creek and Stumptown can fix the Hagg course?

[Sam]

Yep... and then Stumptown fix GC after whatever crew Troy is talking about gets done there. :whistler:

["Over the Hill" Bob]

If Stumptown doesnt get in touch with me on this, I am making it my goal as a Hagg crew to make it happen

Troy, don't expect Stumptown to get a hold of YOU. The right thing to do is get a hold of Stumptown. Present them with where/who/what/why, give them as much information as you can. That will help make things a lot easier. If I waited for Stumptown or any club to get a hold of me when I see a piece of land that I think would make a good DG course nothing would ever happen.

I learned this the hard way! I had a great idea for how to save our economy and waited for Washington to contact me. Now look where we are at!:wink2:

Bob

[all2common]

I have an idea for a great course in the Forest Grove area for a nice new course. I remember this picnic, day use area I used to go to outside of FG, in Gales Creek. The area would be great for a disc course. Personally I would love to just have the Hagg Crew make this another of our courses, but we have no funding. honestly I dont want Stumptown any part of Hagg. I like the idea of keeping it "ours". But, with Hornings being top notch, and Stub Stewart going in, I think this would add to the west Wa county disc golf scene. So, whoever you have on Stumptown who is the course development guys, please have them contact me. I would love this to be another Hagg crew thing, but I am gonna leave it up to Stumptown cause I think it will be a hard sell.

Is it cool with you if a few of my friends and I go out to Hagg and play a round?

[Eric Olson]

honestly I dont want Stumptown any part of Hagg. I like the idea of keeping it "ours".
Good thinking. Keep Hagg in the same crappy condition it's been for the last few years. You definitely won't have to concern yourself with other people wanting to play there.

[Trozzle!!!]

This is exactly why I dont want Stumptown involved with Hagg for now. I give them an idea for a future course and I get people wanting us to give control over Hagg to stumptown while we work on the other course, and assholes like Sam saying after Hagg, Stumptown can come in and fix what we mess up. No matter what any of you think, I dont hate Stumptown at all. I do appreciate all that the club is doing for the NW area. Dont hate on the Hagg crew. most of what I post is my own opinion. We as a group do take pride in Hagg and all that goes on there. We know it could use lots of work and money to make it the top notch course that it could be.

I could go on and on, but so many of you hate me already, Im sure I am gonna hear enough shit about this post, so go ahead, lay it on me.

[emmarose]

... if you're referring to the rippling waters area right there outside of forest grove and before gales creek, i'm not sure that a disc golf course would be the best fit for that particular habitat/environment... it's a beautiful little area, for sure, but where would people park? and the creek bed/bank is protected habitat... which is pretty much all that area is... i would love another golf course out here in my neck of the woods, but rippling waters probably could not sustain that kind of use...

good luck, tho... altho i think you're making a mistake copping such an attitude towards stumptown... use your resources, dude, and you'll get a lot more accomplished... instead of acting like a xenophobe and alienating your best opportunity for help getting a course done quickly... oh, right, and irritating and turning off other folk who otherwise might be willing to help, too (yes, i'm talking about myself... i don't like your tone, sir!)

peace,
emmarose

[Trozzle!!!]

I am talking about what was at least once known as Balm Grove picnic area. could make for a nice long 9 hole course.

Like I have said a couple times already. I dont hate Stumptown at all. There are just those certain members who speak out more than they should have and ruin the image of the club for me. Makes me want no involvement with the club at all. you can blame those people for my thoughts on the club.

[chris7graham]

I am talking about what was at least once known as Balm Grove picnic area. could make for a nice long 9 hole course.

Like I have said a couple times already. I dont hate Stumptown at all. There are just those certain members who speak out more than they should have and ruin the image of the club for me. Makes me want no involvement with the club at all. you can blame those people for my thoughts on the club.

so i guess you hate our country to because there has been more bad apples in the government that have spoken out and ruined our image as a country hmmmmm just my 2 cents worth:slapface:

[Flash]

Troy,

I am glad you feel that Hagg is yours but for a reality check it is the counties to do with as they see fit. They could tomorrow rip out the course and designate the area a wildlife refuge. It will save you a lot of agaony to not stake claims on things that you do not own. I know Jim has an ankling to see Hagg become a better course with facilities and increased playability and flow. We have talked before many times and even at a Stumptown work party at Stub Stewart. That is why if anyone from Stumptown was to work on improving Hagg it would be with the assistance and support of Jim and Washington County.

Now the only question you have to ask yourself is what do you want from Hagg and are you willing to support it even if you do not get what you want?

[Scott]

honestly I dont want Stumptown any part of Hagg.
So, whoever you have on Stumptown who is the course development guys, please have them contact me.
Ummm.....:chinscratch:

[Adam Schneider]

Ummm.....:chinscratch:
I think he's saying he wants Stumptown's help with Gales Creek, but not Hagg.

[Scott]

I think he's saying he wants Stumptown's help with Gales Creek, but not Hagg.

I suppose so - I momentarily forgot we were talking about two different courses.

The "Insult Then Ask" method seems rather odd, though. I hope it works out.

[Sam]

Assholes like Sam. :laughing:

I point out that Troy Grotte has absolutely no say whatsoever about what happens with Hagg - something that is blatantly true - and I get called an asshole for it. Too rich. :)

[KenGilmore]

IThere are just those certain members who speak out more than they should have and ruin the image of the club for me. Makes me want no involvement with the club at all. you can blame those people for my thoughts on the club.

I was thinking the same thing about the Hagg Crew!

[chris7graham]

I was thinking the same thing about the Hagg Crew!

:slapface::shocked::laughing::laughing::bowing:

[emmarose]

Balm Grove is a freaking sweet idea!!!

however... it is now a private residence... but i wonder what they're doing with the property???

... but here's a problem for me troy, stumptown really are the folks to help get a new course in the ground and make the connections and all that... in this world we certainly do not all have to be friends, but we should be able to treat everyone with respect (even if you feel you are not getting it in return, you are only in charge of your own actions and they should be good and kind and productive and worthwhile) ... i'm sure that i don't get along with everybody in stumptown either, but i'm still going to be a member of the club and a part of what they do... and one of the things that they do really well is get us new golf courses... don't bite yourself in the ass on this one dude, you have a really good idea and simply for my sake, i'd hate to see a grudge keep it from happening to it's full potential... i spent so much of my childhood just less than a mile up the creek from balm grove it would be really groovy to see a course put in there...

... let's see what we can do to make this happen...

peace,
emmarose

[Scott]

I have moved post relating to Trozzle!!!'s comments and subsequent warning to the CT section so that this thread can focus on the positive nature of adding a new course to our area.

[emmarose]

...i went on a little reconnasaince mission on my way home from work last night thru gales crick to check out the ol' balm grove area...

... the old park area is definitely not being used and seems like it could make a very pretty little 9 hole golf course, bit on the narrow side, but some very cool trees and quite a bit of property right on the banks of a beautiful section of gales creek...

... but... it's not only a private residence, it's a sketchy lookin' private residence... not sure what the next step would be here... i certainly ain't knockin' on that door to ask if they'd be interested in having a golf course installed... i did have the idea about stopping in at the gales creek tavern for a beer and to ask the locals what they knew about the place... but... frankly, gales creek tavern is sketchy, too... ideas?

peace,
emmarose

[Flatroc]

...i went on a little reconnasaince mission on my way home from work last night thru gales crick to check out the ol' balm grove area...

... the old park area is definitely not being used and seems like it could make a very pretty little 9 hole golf course, bit on the narrow side, but some very cool trees and quite a bit of property right on the banks of a beautiful section of gales creek...

... but... it's not only a private residence, it's a sketchy lookin' private residence... not sure what the next step would be here... i certainly ain't knockin' on that door to ask if they'd be interested in having a golf course installed... i did have the idea about stopping in at the gales creek tavern for a beer and to ask the locals what they knew about the place... but... frankly, gales creek tavern is sketchy, too... ideas?

peace,
emmarose
Hears won four ewe Em, :biggrin2:
Have a Stumptown meeting at the tavern. :cheers:
Set up the tables in a circle (knight's of the round table), drink good ale and promote disc golf together.
Invite the property owners, Troy and the Hagg crew.
If I were you I'd ask Sam to invite the property peeps, as he's pretty good at knocking on sketchy doors.
That's if he can walk after slipping and falling at the OLE gigs.

[emmarose]

Hears won four ewe Em, :biggrin2:
Have a Stumptown meeting at the tavern. :cheers:
Set up the tables in a circle (knight's of the round table), drink good ale and promote disc golf together.
Invite the property owners, Troy and the Hagg crew.
If I were you I'd ask Sam to invite the property peeps, as he's pretty good at knocking on sketchy doors.
That's if he can walk after slipping and falling at the OLE gigs.

... hmmm... alright...

.... troy, what do you think?

peace,
em

[Sam]

:slapface:

[joshkns]

I think I know who lives there, I will ask Thursday if it's them for sure. Anything I should / shouldn't say?

[Trozzle!!!]

I think the area would be great for a nine hole course, if it could somehow be arranged around the sketchy people in the area. That is why I brought it up as possibly a potential course. I am cool with helping out.

Yes, I obviously said before I am not a big fan of Stumptown, but am always willing to help out if I can. I did attend a workparty at Stub Stewart, and i believe it was a Depot thing, but I did attend 2 work parties at Trojan when it went in. If this has a chance of becoming a reality, I will try to be there too.

[Sam]

I did attend a workparty at Stub Stewart, and i believe it was a Depot thing

:confused:

[jevon]

:confused:

Read the rest of the sentence.

[Sam]

Read the rest of the sentence.

Better... get rid of the first part and add the part I omitted and it makes more sense. Check.

DEL :confused:

[Bullseye]

I did attend a work party at Stub Stewart, and i believe it was a Depot thing...

If it was at Stub... It WAS a Stumptown thing...

[emmarose]

I think I know who lives there, I will ask Thursday if it's them for sure. Anything I should / shouldn't say?

... just casual questioning for now... i want to be involved if this happens, but certainly do not want to be in charge just due to my lack of experience/time/motivation... ummm, please don't mention i said they were sketchy... hahaha!!!

peace,
em

[Trozzle!!!]

I know Stub was a Stumptown thing. What i meant was Trojan was a depot thing. Sorry to those who read it wrong.

[Bruce]

It had nothing to do with us reading it wrong, it had everything to do with your poor use of the English language.

[joshkns]

Strikeout! The person I know lives over there but does not own the property...

[emmarose]

Strikeout! The person I know lives over there but does not own the property...

thanks for asking...

... yeah... honestly, i don't really know how feasible this idea is... but i sort of latched onto it 'cause i grew up in gales creek, lived less than a mile from balm grove, and spent huge amounts of my formative years just up the crick from there... i wasn't allowed to go to balm grove, but i would ride my bike down to the bridge and play for hours just up the way from it...

peace,
em

[Trozzle!!!]

It had nothing to do with us reading it wrong, it had everything to do with your poor use of the English language.

Don't know where you went to school Bruce, but my sentence was not poor use of the English language. The use of the commas and the word "and" and the word "but" where they were used in the sentence made perfect sense if you know how to read.

[Sam]

Troy... FFS. At the very least, it was a run-on sentence. Bruce knows how to read and was not the only person who had an issue with that one sentence.

That said... I wish I had someone who would remind me when I need it so I will go out on a limb and give you such a courtesy (I think):

You got to know when to hold 'em - when to fold 'em.

And yes... that's some Kenny Mothertrucking Rogers right there. TIFWIW.

[Trozzle!!!]

it may have been a bit of a run on sentence, but clearly understandable if read correctly, using the commas as a pause, like it supposed to be used.

[Trozzle!!!]

and no, I am not a Kenny Mothertrucking Rogers fan. I dont know when to fold them.

[Scott]

Troy - stop trying to defend the undefendable.

I did attend a workparty at Stub Stewart, and i believe it was a Depot thing,

That actually seems crystal clear to me.

[Adam Schneider]

Aw c'mon Scott, at least at admit it was ambiguous:

"I did attend a workparty at Stub Stewart, and i believe it was a Depot thing, but I did attend 2 work parties at Trojan when it went in"

For clarity's sake, the first comma should be a semi-colon or a dot-dot-dot -- but it was an honest mistake.

[Trozzle!!!]

would be nice if people who quoted my posts would at least quote the whole sentence, not just a part of it. Trying to make me look bad using partial quotes? Thank you Adam for clarifying it, for those who still cant read it right.

[Trozzle!!!]

and yes Adam, a semi colon, or dot dot dot might have made it easier for some to read. it was an honest mistake. But, you do know my past on here. Even that wouldnt stop many, and I wont name names from ripping on me.

[Joshua Olmsted]

Honestly, if you read the first two clauses as connected, the rest of the sentence makes absolutely no sense. I got the meaning.

And just for fun, check out this humorous guide on the proper use of semicolons!

http://theoatmeal.com/comics/semicolon

[Sam]

I said... FFS!

WTF?!

[Trozzle!!!]

I can see how some could get it wrong, I dont deny that. The biggest thing that pisses me off, is people using partial quotes, and trying to make me look bad. If you can post an entire sentence or quote of mine and make me look like an idiot, then go for it. I am an honor student. I dont make that many mistakes with spelling or punctuation. Yeah I am not perfect, but online I do make some mistakes. oh well!!! live with it

[Scott]

Aw c'mon Scott, at least at admit it was ambiguous:

"I did attend a workparty at Stub Stewart, and i believe it was a Depot thing, but I did attend 2 work parties at Trojan when it went in"

For clarity's sake, the first comma should be a semi-colon or a dot-dot-dot -- but it was an honest mistake.

Ah, now I get it. The second half of the section threw me off since we were talking about Stumptown work parties at the time.

[Trozzle!!!]

many thanks to Adam for clarifying it to those who didnt get it the first time. Yes, that is what i meant. At least someone got it!

[Tim]

:laughing: I love the direction this thread is taking. I think it was pretty clear what Trozzle was saying. We've had to decipher far more cryptic phrases from other people on these forums, so I don't know what the big deal is here. Trozzle has made plenty of posts for people to jump on his shit, I don't think this is one of them though.

["Over the Hill" Bob]

I did attend a workparty at Stub Stewart, and I did attend 2 work parties at Trojan when it went in, which I believe were a Depot thing.

How's this?

Bob:biggrin2:

[whalekillah]

Brilliant!!!!

[emmarose]

oh, boooooo! whatever happened to getting a golf course in gales creek?!? :p

peace,
em

[Trozzle!!!]

I guess no course there. People would rather make fun of a sentence I posted.

[Trozzle!!!]

:laughing: I love the direction this thread is taking. I think it was pretty clear what Trozzle was saying. We've had to decipher far more cryptic phrases from other people on these forums, so I don't know what the big deal is here. Trozzle has made plenty of posts for people to jump on his shit, I don't think this is one of them though.

Thank you Tim!! or should i rephrase it so others will understand?!!!

[whalekillah]

So.....as for the course. How many holes, and what kind of terrain. I am not familiar with the area. I have fished the Wilson quite a few times, so I kind if get the general layout of the surrounding area. Sounds like a really sweet place to play.

[Trozzle!!!]

if a course were to go in there, it would be a really flat course. mostly open, but trees could come into play. I dont know if its still there, but there use to be a dam there with a bridge across it, so a couple across water shots could be possible.

[whalekillah]

Sounds really cool.....lets get this done!!

[Trozzle!!!]

Like I said in the 1st post, before things got controversial, I brought this up for Stumptown if they want to go for it. It doesnt sound too optimistic that it can be done, but would make for another fun course in the FG area if it went in.

[sillybizz]

Like I said in the 1st post, before things got controversial

Personally I would love to just have the Hagg Crew make this another of our courses, but we have no funding. honestly I dont want Stumptown any part of Hagg. I like the idea of keeping it ours

You don't think that's controversial?

[Trozzle!!!]

I am done with that subject. PM has been sent to me by a member of the Stumptown board of directors, and I answered them back. I am done with that topic on this thread, so just keep back on the original subject. Thanks.

[jevon]

I am done with that subject. PM has been sent to me by a member of the Stumptown board of directors, and I answered them back. I am done with that topic on this thread, so just keep back on the original subject. Thanks.
Who are you and what have you done with Troy? :chinscratch:

[Trozzle!!!]

:)