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Bullseye
September 20th, 2010, 07:58 PM
Hole #1 - Par 4 - Avg: 3.9 - Scores: 3-7
Hole #2 - Par 3 - Avg: 2.8 - Scores: 2-4
Hole #3 - Par 3 - Avg: 3.7 - Scores: 2-7
Hole #4 - Par 3 - Avg: 3.5 - Scores: 3-5
Hole #5 - Par 4 - Avg: 4.0 - Scores: 3-6
Hole #6 - Par 4 - Avg: 4.0 - Scores: 3-8
Hole #7 - Par 3 - Avg: 2.9 - Scores: 2-5
Hole #8 - Par 3 - Avg: 3.3 - Scores: 2-6
Hole #9 - Par 3 - Avg: 3.3 - Scores: 2-5
Hole #10 - Par 3 - Avg: 4.1 - Scores: 3-8
Hole #11 - Par 4 - Avg: 3.8 - Scores: 2-6
Hole #12 - Par 3 - Avg: 2.9 - Scores: 2-6
Hole #13 - Par 3 - Avg: 3.1 - Scores: 2-5
Hole #14 - Par 3 - Avg: 3.4 - Scores: 2-6
Hole #15 - Par 3 - Avg: 3.2 - Scores: 2-6
Hole #16 - Par 5 - Avg: 5.7 - Scores: 3-10
Hole #17 - Par 4 - Avg: 4.6 - Scores: 3-7
Hole #18 - Par 3 - Avg: 3.0 - Scores: 2-5

Course Par: 61


A few things:
- It looks like even the shorter holes have a decent scoring spread.
- After looking over the numbers I think Hole #10 plays like a par 4.
- Jeff Mittl was the only person to 2 Hole #11
- Brice Lang was the only person to 3 Hole #16.
RonTheWhip
September 20th, 2010, 11:35 PM
Love it, send me the raw data!!!
TreeLove
September 21st, 2010, 07:18 AM
I heard from the spotter that Brice nearly deuced #16, with a huge spike hyzer that tombstoned 5' from the pin!
RonTheWhip
September 21st, 2010, 09:30 AM
Holes in relation to par:
jevon
September 21st, 2010, 12:58 PM
I heard from the spotter that Brice nearly deuced #16, with a huge spike hyzer that tombstoned 5' from the pin!
It was awesome to watch. Nice drive with a Z Stalker, and then the hyzer down the channel with a glow disc. Glow Nuke maybe?
runnaman
September 21st, 2010, 02:28 PM
It was awesome to watch. Nice drive with a Z Stalker, and then the hyzer down the channel with a glow disc. Glow Nuke maybe?

That's what I heard him say.
Tim
September 21st, 2010, 02:42 PM
http://imgur.com/FfSue.jpg

Is this the same layout that was used?
emmarose
September 21st, 2010, 03:09 PM
http://imgur.com/FfSue.jpg

Is this the same layout that was used?

not really...

peace,
em
emmarose
September 21st, 2010, 03:11 PM
not really...

peace,
em

actually, i mean no... 15, 16, 17, 18 were different it looks like... but i don't have the brain power to get into any more than that right now...

peace,
em
Bullseye
September 21st, 2010, 03:40 PM
Nope. This was the course (and the players pack buzzzz).

http://imgur.com/msboT.png

http://imgur.com/FfSue.jpg

Is this the same layout that was used?
"Over the Hill" Bob
September 21st, 2010, 04:27 PM
Nope. This was the course (and the players pack buzzzz).

http://imgur.com/msboT.png

Yeah Tim! :nahnah:

Bob
Flash
September 22nd, 2010, 06:25 PM
No matter how you look at it the course was setup to determine an Oregon Champion based on three factors in my opinion: Skill, Course management, and mental capability.

The course was not a lucky course by any means, and you can see that in the scores. Look at the spread between skill levels, and look at round score spreads and ratings across each divisions

example

Open
RD1 Score | RD1 Rating | Rd2 Score | Rd2 Rating | Rd3 Score | Rd3 Rating
Worst 73 921 73 930 77 901
Best 56 1046 54 1066 53 1073
And there was not anyone in that division that does not deserve to be playing there.
jevon
September 22nd, 2010, 09:44 PM
Wow. You guys sure can break it down. Nice job!
Bullseye Disc Golf.com
September 24th, 2010, 01:12 AM
Who did the artwork (trojan map) for the players pack buzz? Looks awesome!
Bullseye
September 24th, 2010, 07:26 AM
Who did the artwork (trojan map) for the players pack buzz? Looks awesome!

Kel Carver did the artwork. All I did was tell him generally what I was looking for and he came back with exactly what I had envisioned. He is the man!
Eric Olson
September 24th, 2010, 07:37 AM
No matter how you look at it the course was setup to determine an Oregon Champion based on three factors in my opinion: Skill, Course management, and mental capability.That's a good way to put it. Feedback from some of the players is that the course was tough but fair. The mental aspect got the better of a few people I talked to, but as an invitational tourney to crown the best in the state, it's good to increase the challenge on all levels.

Anyway, I'm mainly chiming in to say that the player's pack buzzz is one of the coolest full color discs I've ever seen. Great job.
Wes Hansen
September 24th, 2010, 10:12 AM
Holy cow.
What a beautiful looking course!
From the scoring analysis it looks like Jeff designed a true championship course.
Kel's disc design is first rate.
This thread is enough to make me want to play better so one day I may be able to play this tourney!
I like Flash's reasoning. Lots of courses challenge a player's skill and course management ability. A true championship course also factors in mental (and physical) fortitude.
.... How does one qualify for the 2011 ORDGC?
Bullseye
September 24th, 2010, 10:45 AM
Holy cow.
What a beautiful looking course!
From the scoring analysis it looks like Jeff designed a true championship course.
Kel's disc design is first rate.
This thread is enough to make me want to play better so one day I may be able to play this tourney!
I like Flash's reasoning. Lots of courses challenge a player's skill and course management ability. A true championship course also factors in mental (and physical) fortitude.
.... How does one qualify for the 2011 ORDGC?

As soon as I have secured the course for the event next year I'll coordinate with other Oregon TDs on which events will be qualifiers. I expect to go at this one even more aggressively next year. This year was just the beginning!!!
Scott
September 24th, 2010, 10:46 AM
I expect to go at this one even more aggressively next year. This year was just the beginning!!!
So next year's course will actually be a challenge? :rolleyes:
Bullseye
September 24th, 2010, 10:52 AM
So next year's course will actually be a challenge? :rolleyes:

Actually, I was talking about the promotion of the event. If anything, I expect the course to be similar, with a few tweaks to address some inherent problems... none of which start with "Waaaah! It's too hard."
Matt B.
September 24th, 2010, 11:44 AM
As soon as I have secured the course for the event next year I'll coordinate with other Oregon TDs on which events will be qualifiers. I expect to go at this one even more aggressively next year. This year was just the beginning!!!

By "more aggressively" I assume you mean the inclusion of hay bales?
Sean Phillips
September 24th, 2010, 11:48 AM
Actually, I was talking about the promotion of the event. If anything, I expect the course to be similar, with a few tweaks to address some inherent problems... none of which start with "Waaaah! It's too hard."

:laughing::laughing:

Good to hear you don't plan on changing the course much. I thought is was freaking awesome. It would be great to see the ORDGC played on the same course year after year.
Bullseye
September 24th, 2010, 12:09 PM
By "more aggressively" I assume you mean the inclusion of hay bales?

Maybe to feed your little pony.
Sausage Fingers
September 24th, 2010, 01:28 PM
By "more aggressively" I assume you mean the inclusion of hay bales?

No but hole 2 was just too easy so I am building a little powered windmill to install 35 feet in front of the basket to make the Ace run REALLY hard!:jumpspin:

:pirate:
emmarose
September 24th, 2010, 02:57 PM
No but hole 2 was just too easy so I am building a little powered windmill to install 35 feet in front of the basket to make the Ace run REALLY hard!:jumpspin:

:pirate:

easy, eh?

how many of the boys in the final nine put it in the water? was it just two of the four or was it three of them?

easy for the ladies, maybe... hehehe!!! ;)

peace,
emmarose

p.s. i do think a windmill is a nice idea, anyway, tho...