Hab/Rec Fall Open - October 2

[buckley]

The 9th Annual Hab/Rec Fall Open is taking place on Saturday, October 2, 2010.

Registration has been open for about a week, and it's already filling up fast. Check out www.nextadventure.net for registration and info.

See you at Milo McIver!

[dooley]

The 9th Annual Hab/Rec Fall Open is taking place on Saturday, October 2, 2010.

Registration has been open for about a week, and it's already filling up fast. Check out www.nextadventure.net for registration and info.

See you at Milo McIver!

I AM IN......missed it last year

[DGROGUE]

I AM IN......missed it last year

Im in also will sign up soon. Ive never played milo and cant think of a better way to start!!:rockon::yay::rockon:see you all there:seeya:

[Juice240]

Is this tourney usually pretty full? Also, is this just going to be a tourney with a lot of drinking and smoking? Just trying to gauge whether or not I want to spend the money and drive out there

[Bruce]

Yes it has filled the last few years. The Pro side is already full, or so Buckley told me yesterday. I saw 70 or 80 spots left on the NA website, but I don't know how accurate that really is. The Hab Rec is a great tourney and while there is some smoking and drinking that goes on, it is by far my favorite tournament of the year.

[Jeff Hemmerling]

Is this tourney usually pretty full? Also, is this just going to be a tourney with a lot of drinking and smoking? Just trying to gauge whether or not I want to spend the money and drive out thereDon't hesitate, you won't be sorry. Two world-class courses, one-day event, cheap entry, nice player pack, cool TD. What more can you ask for? (OK, maybe nice weather ;))

[Juice240]

Yes it has filled the last few years. The Pro side is already full, or so Buckley told me yesterday. I saw 70 or 80 spots left on the NA website, but I don't know how accurate that really is. The Hab Rec is a great tourney and while there is some smoking and drinking that goes on, it is by far my favorite tournament of the year.

What up Bruce, it's justin

[Bruce]

Haha, get your ass signed up for Hab/Rec then!

[Bruce]

Don't hesitate, you won't be sorry. Two world-class courses, one-day event, cheap entry, nice player pack, cool TD. What more can you ask for? (OK, maybe nice weather ;))

Hab/Rec does not know of this "nice weather" you speak of sir. Please stop with that crazy talk.

[buckley]

There are 42 non-pro spots still available out of 152 total. Tourney will most likely fill. Pro wait list is only at 5 players so far, so check out www.nextadventure.net for registration options.

Drinking is allowed at McIver and Hab/Rec is non-pdga-sanctioned, so some people do drink during rounds, but most players are there to play tournament golf. The amount of smoking and partying seems to be on par with other tourneys. The tournament director will be sober and lucid!

We've enjoyed nice weather at the Hab/Rec for 5 out of the 8 years it has taken place. Only 1 of the 3 rainy years brought rain during both rounds. The other 2 rainy years included 1 non-rainy round.

We'll never forget Hurricane Milo from a couple years ago, but that was just 1 round out of 16 total. That afternoon round actually cleared up. Some people are forgetting all of the other rounds with really nice weather! Odds are in our favor!

--Buckley

[Weatherman]

I would characterize that as a gentle shower. However, Any true Oregonian enjoy's rain, it is a dead giveaway when you see umbrellas that he/she is an import, Not an native.

Dave

[essjay]

Patrick, I just signed Josh and I up, but I did it online and just added two to my cart then checked out. Consequently, it doesn't know who the second entry is for. I thought you might have a registration list going on so here's our info for the two I paid for:

Josh "Crawdad" Johnson - MA1
Sarah Johnson - FW1

Thanks! :cheers:

[columbia gorge discgolf]

Hey Patrick I just did the same thing as essjay. My info is Justin Gross MA2 and Jason Back MA1. Thank you in advance for this tourney. It is my favorite if the year!!

[larsonjeff]

I'm in as Advanced... can't wait!

[Juice240]

Haha, get your ass signed up for Hab/Rec then!

Haha, I'm in!

[Hippy007]

i'm in.....

Hippy007
:cool2:

[Jellifishie]

What is "Hab/Rec"?

[Sam]

Habitual/Recreational

You only have four posts so I think you might be the Rec end whereas I have far too much time on my hands and am good at forming habits.

Oh yeah... I am in, as well. :)

[Celeste]

I'm all signed up. Kirsten's in too. Nothing better than Milo

[buckley]

I'm heading down to Next Adventure this afternoon to drop off some CFR plastic for the Hab/Rec. CFR Champion Katana @ $25, Champion Leopard @ $20, and Champion Boss @ $20. They all have the 2010 Hab/Rec logo on them, of course. They are sweet! 100% of the proceeds go toward Hab/Rec. Next Adventure does not keep any of the proceeds!

There are still some non-pro spots available, but it's almost full. The website at www.nextadventure.net has been updated (or will be shortly) to reflect the accurate availability, which as of right now is 19. That breaks down to 7 spots remaining for the Advanced Men division, and 12 spots remaining for all other non-pro divisions combined (Rec, Am, Am Women, Adv Women, Adv Master). Sign up now!

[buckley]

Does anyone know what Jason Pinkal's user name is on this forum? I need to send him a message. Thanks!

[Jeff Hemmerling]

Does anyone know what Jason Pinkal's user name is on this forum? I need to send him a message. Thanks!
pizzel

[PDX_Stu]

Now, don't be smack talking his mom...

[Bullseye Disc Golf.com]

Is there a registered player list online anywhere?:bricks:

[PDX_Stu]

I have been holding off on chiming in.


Thanks.

:chug:

[Rakoz]

How full is the tourney now? HabRec was my very first tournament. I finished the top of my card...the last place card. I think I shot +1 or over on every hole at the time. Since then I think it's safe to say I've improved.

[hyzer_sosa]

Any idea when the rest of the baskets might be in place? :confused:

[Bruce]

Probably not for another 2 weeks, there is a track and field event at Milo this weekend, then the Civil War re-enactment next weekend.

[Jellifishie]

Any idea when the rest of the baskets might be in place? :confused:

were there baskets missing last weekend? i went there for the first time and couldn't find a hole or two.

[hyzer_sosa]

were there baskets missing last weekend? i went there for the first time and couldn't find a hole or two.

hmmmm...I played all 27 last weekend.
I was refering to the last 9 holes that make up the BSF course.

[Jellifishie]

hmmmm...I played all 27 last weekend.
I was refering to the last 9 holes that make up the BSF course.

okie dokie. i guess i fail at map reading. :slapface:

[NWDiscer]

okie dokie. i guess i fail at map reading. :slapface:


the way the #'s read on the map from the state can be confusing.

[buckley]

Player reg list coming soon.

Pro divisions are full. 3 spots left for Advanced Men. 10 spots left for all other divisions combined.

27 baskets in until 9/23. Baskets pulled for Civil War from 9/23 to 9/27.
36 baskets in starting 9/28

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I'm compelled to clarify something. When you say "BSF course" just remember that it has been the Hab/Rec tournament course since 2003 while BSF was still at Dabney. After 36 holes became available for tournaments at McIver, the BSF moved from Dabney to McIver in 2004.

This probably came across the wrong way on the forum, but I'm a stickler for accuracy when it comes to that stuff. There's no competition or rivalry between BSF and H/R, we're all friends!

[chris7graham]

Id love to go but i need to get funds so maybe

[hyzer_sosa]

No disrespect intended :bowing: I love me some Hab/Rec! :kissflowers:

[PDX_Stu]

My buddie will happen to be here HAB\REC weekend. He just signed up. 3 spots left.....FYI :chug::chug::chug::chug:

[buckley]

Registration is now closed. The field is full at 152, with a small wait list for pro. If you'd like to get on the wait list for any division, email me at

buckley.patrick@hotmail.com

Reg list is coming soon. It should be posted on www.nextadventure.net by Monday or Tuesday hopefully.

Have a great weekend!

Buckley

[buckley]

No disrespect intended :bowing: I love me some Hab/Rec! :kissflowers:


Hyzer Sosa,

No disrespect taken. I just can't stop myself when people call it the bsf course. I have to "correct" them. Although I know it's easy to call it the bsf course because The Beaver State is an amazing tournament and more well-known; and it's bigger and more bad ass as an overall tournament. And the course is the course. Now you know a little bit of the history.

thanks for the flowers, I do appreciate it!

Patrick Buckley

P.S. Who are you? You're not related to that dude from Usual Suspects are you?

[buckley]

Registered player list is up on www.nextadventure.net

CFR discs are available at Next Adventure, SE Stark & Grand

Champion Katanas, Leopards, and Bosses

[TreeLove]

Registered player list is up on www.nextadventure.net

Click saver!: http://nextadventure.net/events/hab-rec-2010

[smobro]

Click saver!: http://nextadventure.net/events/hab-rec-2010

Now that is a sick gathering of talent! I am looking forward to basking in the glow of the Crusty Nation once again at Milo. Don't forget the Advil, Immodium, Tylenol, Quaffers and well,,,,, you know. What a crowd.

If you did not get in to this event I am truly bummed for you.

[PDX_Stu]

It is bagger madness - :rockon::rockon:

[Hippy007]

So Do we need to pay the day use fee for this or is it included in the fee. just need to know what to bring with me out there

Hippy007
:cool2:

[Bruce]

Pretty sure you still have to pay the day use fee.

[buckley]

Day use fee is not included in the entry fee. It's $5 for the day, but if you go to McIver or any state park a lot, it's worth getting an annual pass which pays for itself quickly.

Lunch is free, if that helps!

[Bruce]

For those wondering, I just got home from helping Buckley get all the baskets put in. The only one that will change between now and Saturday is hole 3 west up on top of the hill. It's currently in the long but will be moved Friday to the short.

[smobro]

It is bagger madness - :rockon::rockon:

I have noticed something about this so called "Bagging" lately.
I think we have to be careful about pressuring people to jump divisions just because they are often in the top 4 of their current division.
It seems like there is this group of people at the top of each of the am divisions that are good enough to be in the top 4 of the division consistantly but are not really there yet to jump up to the next division. I don't think we can call that bagging.
My division is an example of that. We have 4 or 5 guys that are so close to being ready to move to a more competitive division, but they are not consistant enough to or that eager to make the change. I don't see anything wrong with that. If they leave the division it just weakens two divisions. It makes the Masters division weaker by introducing players who don't really want to be there yet and are going to be several strokes behind the field in each event. I do believe that they will benefit by playing with the higher level players, but at what cost?
It seems to me that each division (other than those with 4 or 5 regular players) has 3 tiers- The group that is poised to go up a division, those that fit perfectly in the division and those that are just moving up into the division. Isn't that what you want?
The difficult one is what do you do with the ultra small divisions? If a person consistantly wins or places in one of those divisions but is not ready to compete at higher level, what do they do? Do you fold a bunch of small divisions into one? That doesn't seem like a great idea. I am not sure what you do here. It is a head scratcher.
So, I say let's put this bagging thing to rest once and for all. Except whenever you get the opportuity to raz someone about it in good fun. Let's keep doing that.

[Susie Sunshine]

I'm so ready for Saturday!! Hab/Rec is one of my favorite events!

Which divisions play from the short tees? I think it's all Rec and Am, but wanted to make sure I'm remembering correctly.

[OneDarkRebel]

I have noticed something about this so called "Bagging" lately.
I think we have to be careful about pressuring people to jump divisions just because they are often in the top 4 of their current division.
It seems like there is this group of people at the top of each of the am divisions that are good enough to be in the top 4 of the division consistantly but are not really there yet to jump up to the next division. I don't think we can call that bagging.
My division is an example of that. We have 4 or 5 guys that are so close to being ready to move to a more competitive division, but they are not consistant enough to or that eager to make the change. I don't see anything wrong with that. If they leave the division it just weakens two divisions. It makes the Masters division weaker by introducing players who don't really want to be there yet and are going to be several strokes behind the field in each event. I do believe that they will benefit by playing with the higher level players, but at what cost?
It seems to me that each division (other than those with 4 or 5 regular players) has 3 tiers- The group that is poised to go up a division, those that fit perfectly in the division and those that are just moving up into the division. Isn't that what you want?
The difficult one is what do you do with the ultra small divisions? If a person consistantly wins or places in one of those divisions but is not ready to compete at higher level, what do they do? Do you fold a bunch of small divisions into one? That doesn't seem like a great idea. I am not sure what you do here. It is a head scratcher.
So, I say let's put this bagging thing to rest once and for all. Except whenever you get the opportuity to raz someone about it in good fun. Let's keep doing that.


I think this conversation will always exist in the Advanced division unless the PDGA puts in a ratings cap for this division. What you see traditionally is that the top 4 placers in the Advanced division would place middle pack in the Open division. And let's face it, the top 10 of the Advanced field are, for the most part, the same guys. Most get better by playing with better players, and if this rings true then players who make the move and place in the middle of Open initially would get better and eventually work their way to higher and higher placings. So, there are people who could benefit from a move to Open but would rather not take the lumps and those who will make the move, take the lumps and end up playing better in the long run. But, again, until the PDGA caps Advanced this discussion will always exist.

[Bullseye]

I think this conversation will always exist in the Advanced division unless the PDGA puts in a ratings cap for this division. What you see traditionally is that the top 4 placers in the Advanced division would place middle pack in the Open division. And let's face it, the top 10 of the Advanced field are, for the most part, the same guys. Most get better by playing with better players, and if this rings true then players who make the move and place in the middle of Open initially would get better and eventually work their way to higher and higher placings. So, there are people who could benefit from a move to Open but would rather not take the lumps and those who will make the move, take the lumps and end up playing better in the long run. But, again, until the PDGA caps Advanced this discussion will always exist.

The snag is that Advanced is the highest Amateur level of Disc golf. If a player flat out never, ever wants to play "Pro" (for whatever reason) no one can make them.

With that said... Sam is still a bagger.

[Sam]

Whoa, whoa, whoa...

Thanks! :)

[smobro]

With that said- I wanna be a bagger:biggrin2:

[buckley]

I'm so ready for Saturday!! Hab/Rec is one of my favorite events!

Which divisions play from the short tees? I think it's all Rec and Am, but wanted to make sure I'm remembering correctly.


Pro and Advanced Am play from the pro. That is the blue flight.

Everyone else, including Adv Masters and Adv Women, play from the am tees. That is the red flight.

[Sam]

We play from the AM tees?! Good thing I have the afternoon to practice that layout. :)

["Over the Hill" Bob]

We play from the AM tees?! Good thing I have the afternoon to practice that layout. :)

Sam, they're the AM tee's.........just practice your upshots. :whistler:

Bob

[Hippy007]

Pro and Advanced Am play from the pro. That is the blue flight.

Everyone else, including Adv Masters and Adv Women, play from the am tees. That is the red flight.

Will there be flagged short tees for holes with only one tee pad like last time or will we all play off the concrete tees. So for holes with one we both use the same one.

Hippy007
:cool2:

[Jeff Hemmerling]

Everyone else, including Adv Masters and Adv Women, play from the am tees.Now I really do feel old...:(

[jevon]

Now I really do feel old...:(
Don't beat yourself up too much. After all, you've been looking old for a few years now...

[buckley]

Will there be flagged short tees for holes with only one tee pad like last time or will we all play off the concrete tees. So for holes with one we both use the same one.

Hippy007
:cool2:


Now that we have concrete tees for all 36 holes, we will all throw from them! So yes, there will be more holes this year for which everyone throws from the same concrete tee. This is the case if there is only one concrete tee on the hole, with the following exceptions:

7W red tee will remain on the asphalt at the end of the parking lot island for D area (Rilea's Island)

10E (genius hole) red tee will remain next to the first tree down on the fairway on the grass. It's the only natural tee for this year.

12E red tee will be a new location from the first parking space next to the curb along the left side of the fairway = 495ft, par 4 for red flight. The distance is about the same, but the location is much further left and it's better than having a natural tee from the grass.

All blue tees are concrete.

The changes for this year will result in the west course being about 2 strokes more difficult for red flight. The east course for red flight will score about the same as before. The west course for blue flight might be about half a stroke more difficult. The east course for blue flight is about 1 stroke more difficult than last year.

(Note: New long tee for red flight on 9E adds half a stroke, but that washes with new short tee for red flight on 11E being half a stroke easier)

[Sam]

Sam, they're the AM tee's.........just practice your upshots. :whistler:

We played the concrete tees when there was no tee shorter to shoot from. That's 9 holes misplayed from harder positions. Of course... 18 penalty strokes, too...

54 on the east. 59 on the west.

I am ready for Saturday.

[Flatroc]

The snag is that Advanced is the highest Amateur level of Disc golf. If a player flat out never, ever wants to play "Pro" (for whatever reason) no one can make them.

With that said... Sam is still a bagger.

The sad thing is that he is proud of it. :trophy::trophy: :rolleyes2:
Dang Sam, it seems every thread I read ends up talking about you and sandbagging. :chinscratch:
There's something happening here.
What it is ain't exactly clear.
Buffalo Springfield
Kent,
This is all for fun. (well for me anyway)
Also, please don't enable Sam and his Bag addiction.

[Matt B.]

http://www.accuweather.com/us/or/estacada/97023/forecast-weekends.asp

[buckley]

We played the concrete tees when there was no tee shorter to shoot from. That's 9 holes misplayed from harder positions. Of course... 18 penalty strokes, too...

54 on the east. 59 on the west.

I am ready for Saturday.


All 36 holes for red flight are front concrete (except 7W, 10E, 12E) so I'm pretty sure you misplayed only those 3 holes. You've already played 7W and 10E red tees from previous years.

[Sam]

7W... that is the landing strip hole, I believe. 10E is Genius, I think, and 12E is the crazy long hole before the eastern Island hole.

Check. Thanks, Patrick. Looking forward to Saturday. Let me know if I can help at all. :cheers:

[PDX_Stu]

To beat Sam THIS weekend. I'll do it. The Deschutes Jubelale is out - yawn..

:chug::chug::chug::chug:

[Reichard]

All 36 holes for red flight are front concrete (except 7W, 10E, 12E) so I'm pretty sure you misplayed only those 3 holes.

Sam, I think that would be a 58 and 61 now.

[Celeste]

Anyone coming through Canby that can give Kirsten and I a ride? Our dd has to drive his work car :( and we want to get our Hab/wreck on!

[TreeLove]

7W... that is the landing strip hole, I believe. 10E is Genius, I think, and 12E is the crazy long hole before the eastern Island hole.

We could think, believe, surmise, wonder, etc...

OR......

A map could settle all the debate. Such as was want at the Willamette Open. I am willing and able to help create one; call me and explain each of the holes, and I will map them!

[Sam]

Sam, I think that would be a 58 and 61 now.

:laughing::laughing:

[buckley]

I repeat:

Red Flight plays all front concrete with the exception of 3 holes as already discussed.

Blue Flight plays all back concrete.

This means that on the holes with only one concrete tee, everyone plays from the same tee, with the exception of those 3 red tees as noted above.

As always, each group gets a map, and the tee signs are visible and easy to follow with the marker flags for walk-outs.

Thanks for the offer, Gawain, but there's no need.

[dooley]

Now I really do feel old...:(

this should help me as i have been short AND weak lately....I do not know if i have played the am pads unless we did at HAB/REC 2 years ago...should be a great day ....see ya all out there:cheers:

[Jeff Hemmerling]

It's bright and early. See everyone out at Milo... ;)

[Sam]

Breakfast time. Then Milo. Let's do this!

[Matt B.]

Made it to portland last night, woke up this morning with a 20 lb sack of cement in my head. :headbang: I've never missed a tournament before, or woke up the morning of and felt like I couldn't make it through the day.

Sorry Patrick, have fun everybody! :(:(:(:(

[citizens arrest]

Patrick,Doug,Ian,Brian, and all the behind scenes people that helped with this event, just keeps getting better each and every time. Never have played from the am tees but now I know how the big arms feel playing from places i have never thrown from in the fairway,kind of made me feel young again. Thanks again:rockon:

[Sam]

He comes to me in the morning and says, "After watching you putt last week, I got an XD."

And then he proceeded to beat me with it. Freaking classic.

Well done, Mr. Elliot. Well done, indeed. :bowing:

[citizens arrest]

One other thing I failed to mention, the payouts were over the top:yay:

[larsonjeff]

He comes to me in the morning and says, "After watching you putt last week, I got an XD."

And then he proceeded to beat me with it. Freaking classic.

Well done, Mr. Elliot. Well done, indeed. :bowing:

classic indeed. LOL.

[JMan]

all this banter...results baby, we want results...

[KenGilmore]

I'm still sore... what a weenie.

[citizens arrest]

Everyone that showed up was a winner, by the way anybody have a map quest to the fountain of youth:cool2:

[Sam]

I'm still sore, too, Ken. Have sat on my sore ass and watched football all day. Haven't watched a full day of football in a long, long time.

[Sam]

Open (I think):
1. Nate Sexton
2. Brice Lang
3. Tim Skellenger

Advanced Masters:
1. Jeff Elliot
2. Sam Gibson
3. Craig Nielson

Am Women
1. Shawn Wilberscheid

Advanced Women
1. Cindy McMahon

Other people played and placed, too. That's all I have off of the top...

[larsonjeff]

I'm still sore... what a weenie.

I'm a bit sore, but also still full from Famous Daves... mmmmm ribs.

[blang11]

Open (I think):
1. Nate Sexton
2. Brice Lang
3. Tim Skellenger

Advanced Masters:
1. Jeff Elliot
2. Sam Gibson
3. Craig Nielson

Am Women
1. Shawn Wilberscheid

Advanced Women
1. Cindy McMahon

Other people played and placed, too. That's all I have off of the top...

3rd place in Open division was Kirk McCallister, not Skellinger.

[Sam]

Sorry Kirk and Tim. Easy to confuse two nice guys like that...

[jeff cox]

:seeya:Open (I think):
1. Nate Sexton
2. Brice Lang
3. Tim Skellenger

Advanced Masters:
1. Jeff Elliot
2. Sam Gibson
3. Craig Nielson

Am Women
1. Shawn Wilberscheid

Advanced Women
1. Cindy McMahon

Other people played and placed, too. That's all I have off of the top...

[dc1]

Advanced Men
1. Eddie Florance -5
2. Tim Helgeson -5
3. Dan Carpenter and Jason Back tie at -3

Eddie beat Tim on the second hole of a playoff after Tim birdied the last hole of the final round by parking, with a bomb drive, Hole 11E (hole 10E BSF) to force the playoff.

The final round was a lot of fun with the lead swapping back and forth at least three times. Eddie and I were tied with two holes left, Tim one storke, and Jason two strokes back heading to the genius hole. I took a 5 after hitting one of the first trees off the tee :slapface:, everyone else took a 3. Tim birdied the next hole to force a tie. Everyone played solid golf and pushed each other. Each of us only had one or two bad holes, mine just waited till the end. :bricks:

Great tournament, thank you to everyone that helped, especially Buckley it was fun getting to throw the first round with you!!!

[Sam]

Oh yeah... Pro Masters:
1. Jeff Cox

And some other better old guys played, too... like Mikey and Dougie and Jay-y and Jeffy and...

[dooley]

I'm still sore, too, Ken. Have sat on my sore ass and watched football all day. Haven't watched a full day of football in a long, long time.

that is what my sunday was also....nice and relaxing,but I could not ignore the fact my 49ers game and my golf game of late are the same...another classic choke job:puke:...still had a blast,GREAT job Patrick and all those who helped:bowing:Congrats to all who won or placed well:trophy:....:cheers:

[Will of Doom]

I'm a bit sore, but also still full from Famous Daves... mmmmm ribs.

They also have some awesome catfish and brisket. :cheers:

[Bullseye Disc Golf.com]

Are results posted on Next Adventure?

[citizens arrest]

Are results posted on Next Adventure?

Are the results posted anywhere?

[smobro]

Are the results posted anywhere?

They will be posted early next week at Next Adventure web site.

[LegoRules]

Results are up on the Next Adventure site. :rockon:

http://nextadventure.net/events/hab-rec-2010#attachments

Cindy :)

[Celeste]

So cool that you guys paid out all the rec/am players. I really appreciate these kind of more casual tournaments. Giving all players an awesome time, but throwing in something extra for the newer players.

[Jeff Hemmerling]

Your local numbers geek (that would be me ;)) calculated the round ratings for the HabRec. They are attached as two separate PDF files, one each for the blue and red flights. Let me know if I made any mistakes. Thanks and enjoy!

[TreeLove]

Way to go, Hemmerling!

[Hippy007]

Thanks jeff made that bad round not feel so bad....

Hippy007
:cool2: