Carnation, WA

[Getty]

As a few of you know I've been working some angles to get a 9-holer here in Carneypatch. I'm dealing with a municipallity that has no money but a couple of promising parks. Yesterday, I strolled both parks with one of the city councilmen and he's putting me up first on the agenda at the next meeting on Tuesday. He's totally bought into the idea of disc golf in Carneypatch, but I still need to sell it to the rest of the council.

I'm working in tandem with a local Eagle Scout prospect to get this sucka into the ground. The kid has managed to schmooz a manufaturor-to-be-named- later out of 9 free baskets, organized a work party at whatever park I can get and is already talking to the area merchants about donating concrete for the sleeves. I'll worry about the tees and signage after we get the go-ahead.

The wheels of city government turn very slowly out here, but with some luck look for a 2-3 star beginner/intermediate course to go into Valley Memorial Park or Loutsis Park (my preference) by the end of the year!

[sillybizz]

Way to go Getty!! See you at Lake Stevens soon! :)

[Ken Smith]

Nice! Good stuff. Thank you.

[Cajun]

That's great Getty! Keep us informed. We should be able to round up a decent work posse when the time comes.

SWEET!


Cajun

[rockhound]

What about tolt macdonald park, theres enought parking for about 60 cars,tent camping rv camping sites 1/2 of the park does not even get used.

[Getty]

What about tolt macdonald park, theres enought parking for about 60 cars,tent camping rv camping sites 1/2 of the park does not even get used.

Let me get this one in first. TM is a county park so I'd be dealing with the county instead of the city. I've been scouting around there quite a bit lately and see the potential for something similar to White River.

[JR Stengele]

This sounds great. Keep up the hard work!

[cefire]

Awesome work Getty! Let us know if/when you need help with anything.

[Getty]

UPDATE:

I met with the parks committee last night at city hall and they absolutely love the idea of a disc golf course in Loutsis Park! It turns out the city manager was instrumental in getting a course into the ground back in Kansas, and the rest of the committee was excited about a very low-cost attraction one minute from downtown. I speak in front of the full city council Tuesday the 17th for what should be rubber-stamp approval to move forward. We plan on having it up and running in October.

Not one dime will come out of the city coffers for construction. There's a portalet and a mutha-flippin' kiosk already in place. There will be a mixture of tight throws throw a skinny-tree forest and some more open hucks. We're still working out the details for tees and signage.

PM me if you ever want to see the layout sometime.

[LakeStevensBA]

Great job Getty! You should be proud!

Let us know when you need some bodies for a work party. I've never been to Carnation. Where is it? Do they have paved roads there? Running water?

[sillybizz]

Great job Getty! You should be proud!

Let us know when you need some bodies for a work party. I've never been to Carnation. Where is it? Do they have paved roads there? Running water?

You need a mule and a Sherpa guide to get there. :jumpspin:

[JR Stengele]

I will guide you BA... just follow your heart and you will be on the right track.

[The Ombudsman]

Great job Getty! You should be proud!

Let us know when you need some bodies for a work party. I've never been to Carnation. Where is it? Do they have paved roads there? Running water?

It's almost as bassackwards as Lake Stevens

[rockhound]

:I hear theres a wagon trail from fall city to carnation but its a little overgrone, or you can take a boat:cool2:

[rockhound]

I hear theres a wagon trail from fall city to carnation but its a little overgrone, or you can take a boat. But eather way count me in.:chug:

[sillybizz]

I hurd peeple tocking about this person who dubble posts everything with bad english

[Toby Puttzinski]

I heard about this dill-weed that always chimes in with some smart ace comment about someone else's post... rarely coming up with something original to say that has any substance... what a chump!

Good luck on Tuesday, Getty... please keep us posted.

[Getty]

It is with great joy that I'd like to announce the passage of a motion to the Carnation City Council to install a 9-hole disc golf course in Loutsis Park at approximately 7:20pm PDT August 17, 2010. I will announce details soon as to who our generous benefactor is, but I'd like to thank the city council for their far-sightedness in embracing the game and Eagle Scout candidate Joe Stoudt for doing the leg work to get the targets, sleeves and collars. He will start raising funds soon to get the concrete so we can plant the holes. I'll be working this weekend on the final design so we can draw up the signage. More disc golf on the Eastside...you gotta be happy with that!

:yay:

[cefire]

WOOOHOOOO!

[Ken Smith]

Nice job Getty!

[rockhound]

Wooooooooooooooooohooooooooooooooooooow:cheers:

[CrazyDriver]

I heard about this dill-weed that always chimes in with some smart ace comment about someone else's post... rarely coming up with something original to say that has any substance... what a chump!

Good luck on Tuesday, Getty... please keep us posted.

Yeah, but we let you post on the forum anyway, Toby.:smash:


Great work, Getty!:yay:

[Toby Puttzinski]

Yeah, but we let you post on the forum anyway, Toby.:smash:


Great work, Getty!:yay:
At least part of you post makes sense... good work, Getty!


The scene at sillybiz's house last night... well his mom's house anyway:


DAAAAD... he called me a 'chump'!!!:waaah:

Well son, go tell the teacher on him.

They're MODERATORS dad, and I did, but they wouldn't do anything. They looked up the definition, and they all think I'm a chump, too.:waaah:

[sillybizz]

At least part of you post makes sense... good work, Getty!


The scene at sillybiz's house last night... well his mom's house anyway:


DAAAAD... he called me a 'chump'!!!:waaah:

Well son, go tell the teacher on him.

They're MODERATORS dad, and I did, but they wouldn't do anything. They looked up the definition, and they all think I'm a chump, too.:waaah:

Quit bringing up my family right now.

[Sam]

Wow, Toby... do you like posting here? I am starting to think that you don't.

This stalking Sillybiz shit is more than a little creepy. Did Parks hijack your brain or just your account?

Edit: I actually only know part of the history here. I do know that this crap has to stop or we will end up giving you both a vacation. Please stop spoiling other people's threads with your petty bullshit. Now.

[Bullseye]

Wow, Toby... do you like posting here? I am starting to think that you don't.

This stalking Sillybiz shit is more than a little creepy. Did Parks hijack your brain or just your account?

Edit: I actually only know part of the history here. I do know that this crap has to stop or we will end up giving you both a vacation. Please stop spoiling other people's threads with your petty bullshit. Now.

Why wait? I'm ready to send one of them packing right now.

[Sam]

Which one? I do believe that they are taunting each other and need to get over it. That or Monsters at 10 paces and give us a recap so we know who to congratulate.

[LakeStevensBA]

Back to the topic, GREAT JOB GETTY! A new course is freakin awesome. The eastside needs more courses and it's great to see a parks department so willing to support this.

That is two courses on the east side established by ultimate frisbee players. Spirt Of The Game awards to you both.

Thank you Getty Freeman and thank you Steve Rolling (Juel Park).

[JR Stengele]

nICE gETTY! Can't wait to play yet another course.

[sillybizz]

nICE gETTY! Can't wait to play yet another course.

Yeah Getty is the man with the plan! I'm looking forward to playing another course and also helping to put in another course. Let us know when you need help Getty! :)

[JR Stengele]

Yeah Getty is the man with the plan! I'm looking forward to playing another course and also helping to put in another course. Let us know when you need help Getty! :)

Yeah, what he said. Let me know how and when I can help.

[Rolly]

Right on. Thanks, and good work Getty!

[Choco]

Getty walked me around the course awhile back. Looks good. Rode by there the other day on my Mtn Bike, nothing in yet. Let me know if I can help.

[Getty]

*UPDATE*

October has come and gone but we still don't have the course in the ground. It appears things are pushed back until the spring when the eagle scout candidate is done with football and has time to seek funding for the signage and concrete.

PM me if you're interested in sponsoring a hole. We think it'll be about $125 when all is said and done. If you own a small business it's a cool write-off and you get a sponsorship sign!

[NBdiscgolfer]

I heard there was a disc golf tourny in Carnation on March 13... Does this mean the Carnation course is up and running???

[Getty]

I heard there was a disc golf tourny in Carnation on March 13... Does this mean the Carnation course is up and running???

This is news to me. Where'd you hear it?

[NBdiscgolfer]

http://www.discgolfersr.us/forum/topics/2011-steve-werner-memorial?xg_source=activity

[Adam Schneider]

http://www.discgolfoutlaws.com/gallery/SpiritRidge/

Steve Werner, long time friend and charter member of Disc Golf Outlaws passed away on March 13, 2009. Spirit Ridge is the disc golf course designed in his honor by his brother Ron and sister-in-law Wendy. Located just outside Carnation Washington, Spirit Ridge boasts challenging terrain, beautiful scenery and abundant wildlife (other than Ron Werner).

This would appear to be one of their "baskets":
http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/1343/spiritridge.jpg

[jaggarrett]

http://www.discgolfoutlaws.com/gallery/SpiritRidge/



This would appear to be one of their "baskets":
http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/1343/spiritridge.jpg

That "basket" is a design that was put together by the Hilo Castaways, the local club on the Island of Hawaii. It is called a bunkajin, they were the primary target employed at the McKenzie course in Pahoa until the club recently received baskets.

[Getty]

Got it! This is the private course up Stillwater Hill. Phone calls will be made...

[NBdiscgolfer]

Any new news on a finish date here? Been trying to look online for any other info but nothing really comes up. Looking forward to having a closer course then Auburn to play!!!

[LJ Jubner]

Getty has prety much washed his hands of the Eagle candidate. Easy for him but the communiuty loses. Maybe a different point man

[sillybizz]

?

I have no idea what's going on, maybe you could shed some light on it?

[LJ Jubner]

Getty's out there he can speak for himself

[Getty]

Getty has prety much washed his hands of the Eagle candidate. Easy for him but the communiuty loses. Maybe a different point man

Maybe you have no idea what you're talking about, Jub. I will tell y'all that fundraising has begun, but Joe wants to keep it in the local business community. This is his project, not mine and not anyone elses. This is a project that the eagle scout candidate must spearhead from beginning to end. I am simply the course architect and was also enlisted to help sell the idea to the city council by presenting useful facts and potential numbers.

The project was almost totally scrapped when the benefactor made a surprise visit to the park and decided the park wasn't worthy. I managed to save it by asking a few questions and sending him a detailed map...turns out he never got out of his car to walk around and thought the whole course was going to be in the trees by the parking lot.

Joe does have a deadline approaching. If he doesn't meet it he will not get his rank. I believe it's in July. He's a great kid and I believe we'll be playing golf by summer.

http://captionsearch.com/pix/2sgaw5ez6y.jpg

[Toby Puttzinski]

If there's any difficulty raising funds, perhaps you could suggest a fundraiser tourney with temporary baskets + raffle/basket toss. Maybe local businesses could be offered some sort of advertising with hole sponsorships(maybe their business name on the permanent tee signs)?

*After posting, it occurred to me that this is a 'rights of passage' sort of thing for the scout. I'd assume this means that he's supposed to work independently for the most part. Maybe you could inform him of this site/thread so that he could use it as a resource.*

Just throwing some ideas out there... I'd be glad to help with installation as well, as long as Johnny keeps both of his socks on.:nono:

[sillybizz]

Does that spray really work?

I would totally be willing to come and play in a fundraiser and I would even sponsor a hole. I also concur with Toby in that I would be willing to help out in installation as long as Johnny one-sock doesn't show up. :laughing:

[NBdiscgolfer]

Well I hope everything works out and things getting rolling on this. I would love to join any work parties that may come. If anyone hears of one coming up please post it on here since I have not been able to really find any other information on the course.

[Getty]

If there's any difficulty raising funds, perhaps you could suggest a fundraiser tourney with temporary baskets + raffle/basket toss. Maybe local businesses could be offered some sort of advertising with hole sponsorships(maybe their business name on the permanent tee signs)?

*After posting, it occurred to me that this is a 'rights of passage' sort of thing for the scout. I'd assume this means that he's supposed to work independently for the most part. Maybe you could inform him of this site/thread so that he could use it as a resource.*

Just throwing some ideas out there... I'd be glad to help with installation as well, as long as Johnny keeps both of his socks on.:nono:

Toby, I see no difficulty in raising funds. The baskets are donated, so Joe is soliciting for tee signs, collars and concrete. He felt $125/hole would cover it. I gave him some leads and will be buying a sign for my own business. They will be the DGA split-panels with ads on one side and the hole description on the other.

Joe's aware of the disc golf community and the resources we can provide, but when we talked about work parties he felt he wanted to lead his troop in what little has to be done. There're some blackberries that need wranglin' around hole 4-6, but that's about it. If he needs our help I'll make sure to post it here. I hope to be on hand to simply show what we need cleared and where the baskets and tees are going. The tees will be natural at first but I'll lay in stall mats later on most likely.

NBDG, this is the place to read any updates. I've been updating only when there is real news to report. Joe wants to wait until things dry up a bit out here, and I support that decision. If anyone would like to see the layout I will be available tomorrow (Sat the 16th). Send me a pm. I welcome any input you may have before installation.

[LakeStevensBA]

Great job Getty and thanks for the update.

I am also working with a high schooler who is trying to get his Eagle Scout rank. His project "may" be getting concrete tee pads at Lake Stevens. My only role is helping him work with the city and to make sure the pads will be done correctly if it gets approved.

Jub, why the cheap shot on Getty? Other than the fact he talks with a funny wee-see-anna accent, he's a pretty good dude.

[NBdiscgolfer]

I went a checked out the park the course is going into. Looks liek it has potential for a fun little course. Right next to the Skatepark aswell so thats sweet for me!

[Getty]

We are now shooting for a July 4 grand opening since that is a huge day in this small town. The whole town opens its doors starting with a morning parade, tube races down the Tolt River and live music with fireworks in the afternoon/evening. More news as it developes...

[Getty]

I walked around with Joe yesterday and designed the tee signs. We've zeroed in on the weekend of July 2-3 to pour the concrete for the signs and baskets, hoping we can put them in the ground Monday, July 4 for the community bash. Joe has raised most of the funds and will enlist his troop to clear what little brush needs to be whacked. More later as it happens...

[NBdiscgolfer]

I walked around with Joe yesterday and designed the tee signs. We've zeroed in on the weekend of July 2-3 to pour the concrete for the signs and baskets, hoping we can put them in the ground Monday, July 4 for the community bash. Joe has raised most of the funds and will enlist his troop to clear what little brush needs to be whacked. More later as it happens...

I will be in Carnation this weekend and was wondering if everything went as planned? I will have the discs regardless but wouldnt mind knowing if it is up and running.

[Getty]

I will be in Carnation this weekend and was wondering if everything went as planned? I will have the discs regardless but wouldnt mind knowing if it is up and running.

Nope. I get to hear lots of excuses though. It will be in before school starts back up, however. If you'd like to see the layout gimme a call at 425-830-3472.

[NBdiscgolfer]

Well thats to bad the course was not able to be finished. That would have been a great way to open it up on the 4th weekend out there. I guess I can make the trip to Auburn a little while longer for my closest course. Hope you start hearing less excuses and seeing some actual progress soon. Thanks Getty!

[Getty]

Man, did we make progress. 9 brand spanking new DISCatchers are now residing in a secure place in Carnation! Surprised the hell out of me when the kid called me this afternoon to say they arrived. Eric and I will be out staking the tees and targets tomorrow and getting the yardage for the tee signs that get printed Saturday. Joe has enlisted his football team to do the heavy lifting and blackberry removal on Sat the 23rd. If I can bury the anchors beforehand the course will be playable that day! More later as it seems to happen...

[NBdiscgolfer]

Man, did we make progress. 9 brand spanking new DISCatchers are now residing in a secure place in Carnation! Surprised the hell out of me when the kid called me this afternoon to say they arrived. Eric and I will be out staking the tees and targets tomorrow and getting the yardage for the tee signs that get printed Saturday. Joe has enlisted his football team to do the heavy lifting and blackberry removal on Sat the 23rd. If I can bury the anchors beforehand the course will be playable that day! More later as it seems to happen...

YES! Great to hear the good news. Cant wait to play the course. Tired of playing pick a tree to hit out at that park... haha

[NBdiscgolfer]

Man, did we make progress. 9 brand spanking new DISCatchers are now residing in a secure place in Carnation! Surprised the hell out of me when the kid called me this afternoon to say they arrived. Eric and I will be out staking the tees and targets tomorrow and getting the yardage for the tee signs that get printed Saturday. Joe has enlisted his football team to do the heavy lifting and blackberry removal on Sat the 23rd. If I can bury the anchors beforehand the course will be playable that day! More later as it seems to happen...

I was thinking about heading out to Carnation tomorrow and was hoping you could let me know how the basket instal went today. Hope the course is playable I would love to go fling some out there on Sunday!

[Getty]

Today we planted 9 sleeves, cleared many bushells of blackberrys and dug holes for the signs. Sunday (tomorrow), we'll install the poles for the signs. The hard work is done. Baskets go in the ground Tuesday after 4pm. The race will then be on between Silly and JR to see who can get the first review up on DGCR. I think y'all are gonna enjoy this little Carneypatch. I might even design the back 9 tomorrow!

[JR Stengele]

Today we planted 9 sleeves, cleared many bushells of blackberrys and dug holes for the signs. Sunday (tomorrow), we'll install the poles for the signs. The hard work is done. Baskets go in the ground Tuesday after 4pm. The race will then be on between Silly and JR to see who can get the first review up on DGCR. I think y'all are gonna enjoy this little Carneypatch. I might even design the back 9 tomorrow!

You rang... Let me know the info and I can put it up on dgcr. ;)
Can't thank you enough for getting this thing rolling and completed. :cheers:

[NBdiscgolfer]

Thats awesome Getty. Glad to see everything has finally come together and we have a course closer here on the eastside. Time to get one going in North Bend!!!

[Getty]

We planted the 9 baskets and signs this evening. I still have to dream up a back 9, but we're good to go otherwise. To get to the park, drive to Carnation, go east on Entwistle and the park is about a half-mile on the right. More info when I have time.

[sillybizz]

The race will then be on between Silly and JR to see who can get the first review up on DGCR.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_6SrfvkvL-s0/Sha3Kg6h67I/AAAAAAAAABY/Ptmsj22XlDw/S660/brougten3.jpg

[LJ Jubner]

I was out there Mon afternoon, Should be a fun technical 9 holes

[JR Stengele]

I was out there Mon afternoon, Should be a fun technical 9 holes

Tightly wooded? Is there elevation? What is the name of the course? Excited to play. :cheers:

[Getty]

Tightly wooded? Is there elevation? What is the name of the course? Excited to play. :cheers:

There are trees...lots of trees. Elevation comes into play on two holes if you can call a 5-8 foot drop an elevation change. The park used to be the river bottom...found that out the hard way while augering the holes for the baskets.

Anyway, Loutsis Park is located at 32401 E. Entwistle St, Carnation, WA 98104. Adam got us on the map at DGCR and I've plugged in the hole info. The first hole starts by the parking lot and it's almost impossible to get lost with the current signage. Go here: http://www.dgcoursereview.com/course.php?id=4719

Could one of you wonderful admins give us one of those cool tags down in the course registry below?

[JR Stengele]

Your awesome! Looking forward to playing it soon.

[LJ Jubner]

New courses always ask
..."if it's better to groom a course or let the cattle beat it down."

Personally I know that we are better off doing the work up front then coping with the intentional hacker's legacy.

[Getty]

Jub, I agree. The work party did an incredible job with blackberry clearance, and Eric detailed 4 and 5 yesterday. The cattle may now graze for their errant tosses, but it's gonna take a really bad shot to lose a disc.

The course record stands at -3 after 3 days of play. I hope to find some of you out there, and don't be afraid to call or email me before you head out. The back 9 is mostly visualized, and I welcome all suggestions before I put the stakes down. Have fun!

[DMajor]

Played it yesterday and met Luke one of the local kids that help put it in. Fun course but wish I would have brought some loppers or a machete. I think I could have eliminated a quarter of the blackberries just looking for our groups disc's. -2 both laps, would have tried a little harder had I known it was only -3....

Way to go Getty and Eric and Joe and Luke and everybody else that helped. The blackberries should be gone in no time if it gets played.

[NBdiscgolfer]

Awesome! I iwll be making it out there this week!

[Getty]

I've pretty much zeroed in on the alt 9 tee pads. I hope to have those in next week. Millers, in downtown Carnation, will be carrying Innova products within the week. Don't hesitate to call me at 425-830-3472 if you'd like a guided tour of our new course!

[NBdiscgolfer]

Just got my first couple of rounds in at the course yesterday. Really enjoyed the layout of the course. Great mix all around. Well done!!! I will be playing this course frequently since it is now the closest one to my place.

[sillybizz]

Played it today, cool little short, technical course. Getty, excellent use of the park! I also go to play the private course Spirit Ridge with Johnny cake (JR Stengele) Andrew (Cefire) and Ron Werner who was showing us the course. Loved Spirit Ridge. If I could rate the time I had today I would give it a 5. :)

[Getty]

Wish I had time to mark the back 9. It's way more challenging but working two jobs is crushing my golf window-of-opportunity. Thanks for the review, Silly! Ron has a special place up there on the ridge. Love throwing there!

[JR Stengele]

Yeah, good times Getty. Nice work utilizing the park space.

[Getty]

Thanks for the reviews, guys! I showed them to the mayor today, and she was psyched. Millers, in downtown Carnation, is now selling Innova products. They are also a course sponsor and I appreciate their support even though I'm not affiliated. If you're in town and need plastic, that's the place to go.

[Geepster]

Wow! Just read this thread and am amazed at what can happen in such a short time. I am a relatively new player and found the course on dgcoursereview.com not realizing that it had opened only a week and a half before. I've made 3 trips out to Carnation to play Loutsis and have really enjoyed the layout.
Getty, I must say that #5 is my favorite hole. I love how you have to play the opening between the shrubs and the low tree boughs. I learned the hard way that #5 can play much tougher when you hold your RH forehand too long. I managed to bounce my drive off of the chain link only to have it rest inside the fence behind the last big tree prior to going past the basket.
Looking forward the the additional holes!

[Getty]

I've got a buncha blue bricks ready to install Wednesday. The back 9 will not be well-marked, but if you look for the blue-taped tine on the previous basket and start walking you will find the nest tee. Hole 10 tee is close to the portapotty/bike path. I still have to decide where to locate a couple of tees. There's way more challenge to the blues with only a couple holes being easier. Word on the street has it that Wes hit the first ace in Carnation on #9 with a skipper witnessed by Shooter.

[NBdiscgolfer]

I've got a buncha blue bricks ready to install Wednesday. The back 9 will not be well-marked, but if you look for the blue-taped tine on the previous basket and start walking you will find the nest tee. Hole 10 tee is close to the portapotty/bike path. I still have to decide where to locate a couple of tees. There's way more challenge to the blues with only a couple holes being easier. Word on the street has it that Wes hit the first ace in Carnation on #9 with a skipper witnessed by Shooter.

WOW! On 9 huh. Thats a tough shot to get all the way to the basket. I bounced one off the front of #1 and bounced another off the front of #7. Will have to try and make it out next weekend to play the blues!

[Getty]

The back 9 is now marked and ready for play! Edge will be happy to know that the #18 we played yesterday is not the one we marked out today. Y'all come on out to Carneypatch and huck a few!

[ericedge]

I decided to take a cruise out east on I-90 to check out the Carnation course yesterday afternoon and as I neared the Fall City exit I noticed Getty's SUV (with the LSU sticker on it) headed the same way. He dialed me up on the cell phone and I followed him to the park. Nothing like have the course designer there to show you around! We started out on the front nine and I shot a three down (w/ one bogey) to Getty's bogey free -4. I then had the privilege of seeing the as yet unmarked alternate back nine. Things were going along pretty well on the back too and I was sitting at one under (on the back) as we walked up to the amazing looking eighteenth hole. The 25' wide fairway is about 300'+ and is lined with a perfectly aligned row of tall pines on each side, each spaced about five feet apart. I'll just let you know that you don't want to end up on the wrong side of the pines on the left side! I ended up gasping for breath shooting a six on the hole and ended up at one under for the round. We decided to play the front again and I managed a bogey free four down (birdied 2, 5, 7 & 9) and then said goodbye to Getty who was headed home. I nearly aced hole 7 with a skip that slipped vertically through the cylinder of the basket, tickling the chains. I was going to leave too but Brett V. showed up with a couple of friends and wanted me to show him the layout for the back, how could I refuse? This time I managed to shoot a three on the final hole along with birdies on 12, 13, & 14 to give me a respectable six under for the round, much better!

Leaving the park I went north from Carnation and then west on Novelty Hill Rd. so I could play Juel park on my way home. I wasn't sure how much more I wanted to play but after birdying the first two holes I figured I might as well keep going. Toward the end of the front nine I met a local named John that was playing alone so I joined him and we ended up playing the full eighteen finishing just as the sun was setting. I kept the damage to one bogey (on 15) and shot a six under which is a good round for me there. I told John about the course in Carnation and he asked me if it's similar to the Juel course. Well, they're both flat! but other than that, no, they aren't much alike. Juel is reasonably long and wide open with nothing but sky above and Carnation has about a bazillion trees and lots of low ceiling shots. Combining these two courses for a little one day mini tourney would be a fun time!

[ericedge]

I guess the "old" hole eighteen will have to be a bonus hole now! Definitely a classic with that long, narrow fairway.

[DMajor]

The 25' wide fairway is about 300'+ and is lined with a perfectly aligned row of tall pines on each side, each spaced about five feet apart. I'll just let you know that you don't want to end up on the wrong side of the pines on the left side!

Last time I was there, before the back nine was in, I was looking at that tunnel hoping that would be #18, but it looked like the neighbors would be getting a lot of deflections in their backyard. We should install a large net and bring the tunnel back!

Combining these two courses for a little one day mini tourney would be a fun time!

That would be fun, and I'd gladly put time in to help run it.

[Hohman]

Eric, was is this Juel park at?

[Toby Puttzinski]

Eric, was is this Juel park at?

In Redmond.

[ericedge]

Juel Park (http://www.dgcoursereview.com/course.php?id=738)

[JR Stengele]

There is also a private course called spirit Ridge that is super fun in Carnation. I put some info in my review on dgcr about getting in contact with Ron Werner.

[sillybizz]

^ Pan handles for thumbs up. Wait this isn't DGCR! Nevermind...

[NBdiscgolfer]

Got a chance to go out and play the course as a full 18 yesterday. The blues overall are a little more difficult but very fun. Shot -5 through the round.