Troutdale City Parks Advisory Meeting tonight @ 7pm!

[Sausage Fingers]

Items 3 & 4 on the agenda are parking lot review for Sunrise Park and Disc Golf @ Sunrise Park.

7:00pm 223 S Buxton in the City Conference Building.

I am heading out to hear what they have to say.:pirate:

["Over the Hill" Bob]

Items 3 & 4 on the agenda are parking lot review for Sunrise Park and Disc Golf @ Sunrise Park.

7:00pm 223 S Buxton in the City Conference Building.

I am heading out to hear what they have to say.:pirate:

Can't wait to hear the outcome. :dancing:

Bob

[ryanajanes]

how did it go?

[Adam Schneider]

Did no one ever post on the forum about this meeting??

Sunrise Park: http://www.ci.troutdale.or.us/parks-facilities/documents/sunrisepark.htm

[Uhlman]

looks like a wonderful spot

[Adam Schneider]

looks like a wonderful spot
Except for a notable lack of trees.

[Uhlman]

Except for a notable lack of trees.
well, when you come from the Columbia Plateau you almost forget that other places have trees. You can always plant trees too.

[Sausage Fingers]

Did no one ever post on the forum about this meeting??

Sunrise Park: http://www.ci.troutdale.or.us/parks-facilities/documents/sunrisepark.htm

Uummm...isn't this whole thread about this meeting?:chinscratch:

I thought that the whole thing was about as exciting as watching paint dry. The first 3 hours of the meeting were a battle between the immediate park neighbors and the proposed parking lot improvements. It seems that this park is a fave spot of the Reynolds High kids to park and screw all night long. They whined about people in the park after hours and then whined about adding more lights to illuminate the parking lots...:chinscratch:

If you go to the Troutdale Parks Master Plan here (http://www.ci.troutdale.or.us/parks-facilities/documents/parksmasterplan.pdf) and go to Appendix A you'll find a nice table that summarizes all of the parks in the area by type and lists the acreage of the parks. But after looking at the various options for dg in these parks there really isn't a good option (one with enough space) unless you look at the group of parks designated as Natural Areas.

And while Sunset Park looks like it could hold dg, it would be hard pressed to be as challenging as Orchard Park. Even though a pitch and putt course would still be a great addition to the area, the neighbors appear to believe that this Community Park is really a Natural Area (you know, because SOO many natural areas have vast mowed fields...:headbang:) and don't want disc golf in their personal private backyard..errrrr...park.

This wasn't my dog in the race so I wasn't crushed when they decided to recommend that disc golf not be added to Sunrise Park. I was however encouraged that they passed a resolution that they'd like to add disc golf to SOME park in the Troutdale Park system. So they are looking for input from the disc golf community on recommendations for sites that would work for disc golf in their park system.

At least it was good experience to see how the Troutdale Parks Advisory Committee operates and meet some people who work for the city of Troutdale. I was just going to spend the night smack talking on the Team Disc Golf thread anyway, so it wasn't a great sacrifice to attend this meeting.:pirate:

[Adam Schneider]

Uummm...isn't this whole thread about this meeting?:chinscratch:
I meant before the day of the meeting!

I think you're right that not having DG in Sunrise Park is not a huge loss. Very encouraging, though, that they're thinking about it somewhere else.

[Sausage Fingers]

I meant before the day of the meeting!

Well since I only found out about the meeting just before 3 pm, I could have posted it a little earlier...:pirate:

[Sean Phillips]

Jordan,

Thanks for attending the meeting to represent the disc golf community. I think attending all the parks department meetings in our local areas is an important task that will lead to more courses.

:cheers:

[The Brodys]

Is Blue Lake Park in the Troutdale Parks system? I have driven by there a few times and it seems to be begging for a course. I do not know anything else about the park, but it looks pretty nice.

[Adam Schneider]

Blue Lake Park is a "regional" park; I think it's run by Metro. And it's a very very very busy park... a course there would almost have to be winter-only.

[Scott]

Is Blue Lake Park in the Troutdale Parks system? I have driven by there a few times and it seems to be begging for a course. I do not know anything else about the park, but it looks pretty nice.

I think Blue Lake park is managed by Metro.

[The Brodys]

Blue Lake Park is a "regional" park; I think it's run by Metro. And it's a very very very busy park... a course there would almost have to be winter-only.

I see. Darn it anyway. Thanks for the info.:cheers:

[Sausage Fingers]

Blue Lake Park is a "regional" park; I think it's run by Metro. And it's a very very very busy park... a course there would almost have to be winter-only.

I disagree. Sure there is the part of Blue Lake park that many people go to most sunny days, but there are also areas that aren't right next to the lake that could be used for disc golf. The last time I heard about trying to get disc golf in that park, the people in charge wanted to go with a stick and ball golf course so that they could make more money. But there isn't any ball golf there yet, so maybe it is time to revisit getting disc golf in the park.:pirate:

[Kevin Madrid]

I disagree. Sure there is the part of Blue Lake park that many people go to most sunny days, but there are also areas that aren't right next to the lake that could be used for disc golf. The last time I heard about trying to get disc golf in that park, the people in charge wanted to go with a stick and ball golf course so that they could make more money. But there isn't any ball golf there yet, so maybe it is time to revisit getting disc golf in the park.:pirate:

The part of the park they were talking about was not in Blue Lake proper, but across the street...which is still considered Blue Lake property.

[Sean Phillips]

I know of a couple people that have talked with the blue lake park peeps. The last I heard, somebody was working on a disc course design that would be put in until they get a ball golf course in.

[Sausage Fingers]

The part of the park they were talking about was not in Blue Lake proper, but across the street...which is still considered Blue Lake property.

Yeah! What he said!:pirate:

[The Brodys]

Fingers crossed.

[keith_shupp]

Blue lake is a Mult. county park and the last I heard was they decided not to build the ball golf but they are considering disc golf. I have a friend that works for Mult. county and said disc golf has a good chance at going in. just so you know the county works very very very slow. If this area was controlled by Metro which is part of the county nothing would go in. Metro works with Nature preserve and might only add waking trails if anything.

[Jaemes]

Metro controlls all of BlueLake. Why can't multiple portland area disc golf clubs show up at a Metro meetings and push for Disc Golf on the property that was going to house the stick golf? Metro needs to hear from us in large numbers.

[erp]

From what I understand from various informed little birds the course is a go, as ball golf wasn't feasible at this time.

I'm sworn to secrecy on any details, but I think we can permit ourselves some optimism on this one. Metro's only offering the park up to disc golf until the economy turns around, however, the Oregonian article about the death of the ball-golf proposal (http://www.oregonlive.com/environment/index.ssf/2010/06/metro_shelves_plan_for_a_blue.html) points out that ball-golf rounds have decreased at nearby Glendoveer golf course (also operated by metro) and that ball-golfers' numbers have shrunk in the US over the past year or so.

I haven't looked for research on the growth of disc golf to compare, but from being on the courses this summer and having an overt aversion to crowds, it sure looks like the sport is growing...and last I checked innova had some interesting data on the number of courses in the US over the last 30 years that showed a near j-curve trend in courses being built.

All good news for us!

I would definitely NOT pile on Metro at this point as I think the disc is rolling and we should soon get some communication about the course - expect pay to play (the park is $5 admission and I don't think that would change for disc golf), and a solid, world class 18-holer to add to the local repertoire...the perception of an angry mob of disc golfers descending on Metro will not likely help or speed the cause.

[Jaemes]

It's not that I think an angry mob would help at all. I agree that a bunch of disc golfers going down to a Metro meeting with a bad attitude and big chip on their shoulders would only serve to turn them off.

Unfortunately there is definitely a perception on this forum that Metro has no interest in much beyond nature trails in the park they oversee. IMO one of the best things our area disc golf clubs can do is to go to the Metro meetings and show how much enthusiasm there is for a disc golf course at Blue Lake, maybe, present the demographic data that is available on the PDGA site, in a clear concise, focused format. If we can show them they aren't alone in this and the Disc Golf community is ready to help get a new course established in a great regional park, I think it could only help move things along more smoothly.

[Magilla]

It's not that I think an angry mob would help at all. I agree that a bunch of disc golfers going down to a Metro meeting with a bad attitude and big chip on their shoulders would only serve to turn them off.

Unfortunately there is definitely a perception on this forum that Metro has no interest in much beyond nature trails in the park they oversee. IMO one of the best things our area disc golf clubs can do is to go to the Metro meetings and show how much enthusiasm there is for a disc golf course at Blue Lake, maybe, present the demographic data that is available on the PDGA site, in a clear concise, focused format. If we can show them they aren't alone in this and the Disc Golf community is ready to help get a new course established in a great regional park, I think it could only help move things along more smoothly.

:eek: :shocked:

Oh my gosh! Say it isnt so.... :smash:
Someone actually making sense on this forum..... :slapface:

:laughing:

:cheers:

[Matt B.]

It's not that I think an angry mob would help at all. I agree that a bunch of disc golfers going down to a Metro meeting with a bad attitude and big chip on their shoulders would only serve to turn them off.

Unfortunately there is definitely a perception on this forum that Metro has no interest in much beyond nature trails in the park they oversee. IMO one of the best things our area disc golf clubs can do is to go to the Metro meetings and show how much enthusiasm there is for a disc golf course at Blue Lake, maybe, present the demographic data that is available on the PDGA site, in a clear concise, focused format. If we can show them they aren't alone in this and the Disc Golf community is ready to help get a new course established in a great regional park, I think it could only help move things along more smoothly.

You'll find some good stats, and in fact a whole presentation here:

http://www.eugene-or.gov/portal/server.pt?space=CommunityPage&control=SetCommunity&CommunityID=217&PageID=4296

[keith_shupp]

There are many disc golf proposals that have been sent and that are in progress right now with metro or multnomah county. County has been aware of disc golf since 1980 when they put rockwood in plus they already know everything about disc golf and how much it has grown. I agree with Erp we dont need a bunch of disc golfers calling metro about blue lake because there is already a group working on it. So getting a bunch of other golfers calling will only hurt at this point. Let the ball roll and wait till the people who are already working on the project ask for help.

[Bullseye]

There are many disc golf proposals that have been sent and that are in progress right now with metro or multnomah county. County has been aware of disc golf since 1980 when they put rockwood in plus they already know everything about disc golf and how much it has grown. I agree with Erp we dont need a bunch of disc golfers calling metro about blue lake because there is already a group working on it. So getting a bunch of other golfers calling will only hurt at this point. Let the ball roll and wait till the people who are already working on the project ask for help.

With that said... it would be nice to know WHO is working with these people.

[keith_shupp]

With that said... it would be nice to know WHO is working with these people.

Jeff its not me but the people who are working on it dont have to let the forum know or have people butting in on something thats been in the works for awhile. I have faith that the right thing will be done and that they will include more info when the time is right. The main thing is that someone or a group has step up and got the ball rolling. Lance and I heard about this about four months ago. it would be great to have another great course on the East side of town and to who ever is working on this please let me know when the work partys start and I will be there.

Let the Ball roll:rockon:

[Bullseye]

Jeff its not me but the people who are working on it dont have to let the forum know or have people butting in on something thats been in the works for awhile. I have faith that the right thing will be done and that they will include more info when the time is right. The main thing is that someone or a group has step up and got the ball rolling. Lance and I heard about this about four months ago. it would be great to have another great course on the East side of town and to who ever is working on this please let me know when the work partys start and I will be there.

Let the Ball roll:rockon:


I wasn't implying they should let the entire forum know what they are up to, but it might be beneficial for everyone involved to let the Stumptown BoD know whose toes they might be stepping on when they go looking for places to put in new courses. I know a couple different groups of people have talked to Metro about Blue Lake Park, so the toe stepping may already be happening.

[Jaemes]

It's great to hear that the gears and cogs of progress on a new course may be turning. I have been lurking and reading for awhile and most, if not all, the posts I have read in reference to new courses on Metro administered parks/properties, left me with the impression the community had come against a brick wall of opposition each time. I would be happy to find my assumption was completely wrong and look forward to more information on the progress toward a new course on the Blue Lake property.

[The Brodys]

Sorry I said anything about Blue Lake here. I hope no one finds out that someone has a toe stepped on. J/K. Hope what ever needs to happen, happens.

Now what about that Troutdale course?

[K3VL4R D1SC]

has this been dropped as a possibility? it seems to be a great location with good access, and lots of room. What's the problem?

[Sausage Fingers]

has this been dropped as a possibility? it seems to be a great location with good access, and lots of room. What's the problem?

MHCC has NOT been dropped, the small park in Troutdale known as Sunrise Park (http://www.ci.troutdale.or.us/parks-facilities/documents/sunrisepark.htm) has decided to not put a 9 hole course in their grounds.
:pirate: