It's hot!

[sillybizz]

I just wanted to remind everyone to bring extra water with them out to the course(s) while it's hot like this. Heat stroke/exhaustion is a serious thing and alcohol only makes it worse so please bring some other liquid! I know it's a bit weird to remind grown human beings of this but it's important. Take care everyone. :cheers: :chug:

[runnaman]

Good work Sillybizz.

Thanks for the reminder.

[Wyman Gast]

I got heat stroke a few times bucking hay when I was fifteen or so. What got me during the worst episode was that my head would just throb with heat and my body would burn up if I stopped, so I just kept working (pretty stupid). I was off-loading 120# bails off a trailer in 110 degree heat and my boss's wife walked around the corner just as I had dropped a bail and kinda tripped over it from being dizzy. She pulled me off the trailer and started hosing me down and cussing out her husband at the same time but it was my fault. Ever since then my body has reacted inconstantly in hot/cold climates, it really screwed me up.

[Ol' Bob]

This year, the outside work days are few. (Geezo, I had a fire in the stove on the 4th of July!) I must risk sunshine poisoning. The main symptom is a sore back.
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[erp]

Dangit Bob, put your clothes back on!

...or use some sunblock...

:cheers:


This year, the outside work days are few. (Geezo, I had a fire in the stove on the 4th of July!) I must risk sunshine poisoning. The main symptom is a sore back.
http://www.publicadvocate.com/board//styles/prosilver/imageset/wsweltering.gif

[Ol' Bob]

It's not sunburn. It's overdoing it because it's not raining.

[captain jack]

Aww jeez, I was riiding around cool refreshing 68° Lake Washington on a jet ski all day, I didnt notice the heat. :slapface:

[3 Fingers]

you think thats hot wait till the nucular meltdown july 17-18 hhoooott

[LakeStevensBA]

It is hotter than h.ll out there right now.

Luckily I remembered the fine advice from this board and rolled my window down a couple of inches while I played disc golf for a few hours. My dog and child should appreciate that.

p.s. just kidding. It wasn't a dog and kid I left in my car in this heat. it was Thomas Sillybizz and John Stengele. They should be fine.

[sillybizz]

It wasn't the heat that bothered me it was being trapped in your car with John!

[The Ombudsman]

Good to hear that summer has finally hit the Pacific NW!
I threw at Mt Kisco the other day in 102 degrees...
The temperatures here have not been below 75 since the first week of June - even at night! I keep a frozen gallon jug of water in the car. By the time your portable bottle needs a refill, the jug has defrosted just enough to fill it up!

[sillybizz]

Hey Michael what's the deal with the 1/2 star rating of Lake Stevens on DGCR?!

[LakeStevensBA]

Hey Michael what's the deal with the 1/2 star rating of Lake Stevens on DGCR?!

He had someone steal his disc there. Probably wasn't even a local since they were so brazen about it when they drove off. It sucks that this only happened at Lake Stevens and has never happened at any other course anywhere.

Regardless, every comment he has ever made about LS since then has been nothing but negative.

Michael, we still lov..uh...like you, so we would welcome you back for another chance some day.

Peace!

[The Ombudsman]

He had someone steal his disc there. Probably wasn't even a local since they were so brazen about it when they drove off. It sucks that this only happened at Lake Stevens and has never happened at any other course anywhere.

Regardless, every comment he has ever made about LS since then has been nothing but negative.

Michael, we still lov..uh...like you, so we would welcome you back for another chance some day.

Peace!

My review was not entirely negative. However, nothing good has ever happened to me at that course. Every time I go there I swear it will be the last time.
I like the woods and do not have a major issue with the baskets.

Not only did some SOB taunt me as he drove off with my disc, but there was another issue at my first Aquafest when one of the course founders went off on me with an expletive laden tirade for pulling my disc out of the basket after I made a putt. He then told me I was not to pull my disc out of the basket unless he said I could.

[LakeStevensBA]

there was another issue at my first Aquafest when one of the course founders went off on me with an expletive laden tirade for pulling my disc out of the basket after I made a putt. He then told me I was not to pull my disc out of the basket unless he said I could.

Yeah, I remember that. That's Whitey. For the record, he isn't and never was a course founder. He just lives nearby and plays a lot so he considers it his second home. Don't feel it was just you, he has had run ins with about 20 other people. A little Napolean complex issue.

I'm not giving up on you though Michael. I know you can find something positive to say someday. I can wait. You're an old ultimate player too. Where's the spirit of the game?

:chinscratch:

[The Ombudsman]

Yeah, I remember that. That's Whitey. For the record, he isn't and never was a course founder. He just lives nearby and plays a lot so he considers it his second home. Don't feel it was just you, he has had run ins with about 20 other people. A little Napolean complex issue.

I'm not giving up on you though Michael. I know you can find something positive to say someday. I can wait. You're an old ultimate player too. Where's the spirit of the game?

:chinscratch:

Maybe that is why I keep going back there even though I have sworn it off...

And I love you, man.

[Tim]

Maybe that is why I keep going back there even though I have sworn it off...



I used to have similar issues with Taco Bell, but I think I'm on the wagon for good now.

FWIW, I'd much rather go to LS than Taco Bell any day. :D

[LakeStevensBA]

Thanks Tim! And you probably won't get the runs quite so bad after a round at LS compared to Taco Bell. Oh wait...this winter I spent some time looking for my disc in the LS bog and got a small case of giardia. On the bright side, it's a good way to drop a quick 20 pounds and your car doesn't smell like a mexican fiesta the next day.

[sillybizz]

I didn't mean to stir up any stuff honest but if this is about the course and the baskets... I love Lake Stevens as it's the only course with those baskets and removing them for "real" baskets would be a shame in my eyes. You can play any other course in the country and play on "real" baskets so if you want to bitch and whine and moan and complain about it just play somewhere else but if you want to have fun without the drama then Lake Stevens Monday night doubles is the best weekly event I've ever played in. Not directed at Michael but just in general to people who hate the baskets and whine about it. I will say that when Michael was running the Juel doubles the one time I was out there everyone were very friendly, playing was fun and laid back and the funds were on the up and up. I will say though about Kevin (Whitey) that he has a personality that you either get along with or your don't and I know of a couple of people that don't get along with him but for me I can say I've always gotten along and always like Whitey and he has always treated me with respect so I have nothing but good things to say about him. As for people stealing discs at Lake Stevens, yes this does happen sometimes and there are some people around that park that are shady just like any group at just about any park though some are better than others. I can see Michael why you would be mad at someone for stealing your disc but for me personally that wouldn't reflect poorly on my outlook of the course as a course, if that makes sense.

[emmarose]

My review was not entirely negative. However, nothing good has ever happened to me at that course. Every time I go there I swear it will be the last time.
I like the woods and do not have a major issue with the baskets.

Not only did some SOB taunt me as he drove off with my disc, but there was another issue at my first Aquafest when one of the course founders went off on me with an expletive laden tirade for pulling my disc out of the basket after I made a putt. He then told me I was not to pull my disc out of the basket unless he said I could.

i thought it was polite to immediately remove your disc from the basket after you putted out? not trying to stir the sh*t, just curious...

peace,
emmarose

[The Ombudsman]

How about replacing the missing chains on those baskets?

[The Ombudsman]

i thought it was polite to immediately remove your disc from the basket after you putted out? not trying to stir the sh*t, just curious...

peace,
emmarose
That's what I thought too! But this guy told me that even though I had been playing for over 30 years that I didn't know s#!t.
See, as I was pulling the disc out, it got caught on the basket and caused the basket to spin 90 degrees on the pole. This happened just as he was putting. Instead of hitting chains, her shot through blank empty space! He then claimed interference and said he was entitled to a 'do over'.
We had a 13 year old girl in the group too. Whitey was telling a lot of 'dumb blonde' jokes and cursing like a sailor the entire round. I could hardly believe that a person claiming to have built the course would behave in such a manner.

[sillybizz]

How about replacing the missing chains on those baskets?

I think this is a great idea, I would have no problem with chains and I would even put in the work and install them myself however I do not have the money or authority to do so. BA would be the one to talk to.

[The Ombudsman]

Uh-oh
Is this thread headed for the 'CT' section now?

[The Brodys]

I have heard that it is up to the person putting next weather or not for the putter to be removed. Not to stir poop or any thing :)

So even if the guy is a jerk he maybe right, I might be wrong, but I always try to check with the next person out to see if they want me to remove my disc. They may already be ready to putt and me running up may interrupt them.
Just my two cents on the clearing of the putter.

[sillybizz]

Like Micheal said when you take the disc out of the baskets at Lake Stevens you can inadvertently or accidentally spin the baskets to make someone's putt much harder and people who don't play there often do not understand our basket etiquette. Having a disc in the basket has no bearing on whether another person's putt will go in or not which is exactly opposite on "real" baskets so after a successful putt we leave our discs in the basket until everyone is done putting. Not to condone Kevin yelling at you and I don't know exactly what happened because I wasn't there but this is something you need to know about Lake Stevens to understand the local customs.

[mazza]

Like Micheal said when you take the disc out of the baskets at Lake Stevens you can inadvertently or accidentally spin the baskets to make someone's putt much harder and people who don't play there often do not understand our basket etiquette. Having a disc in the basket has no bearing on whether another person's putt will go in or not which is exactly opposite on "real" baskets so after a successful putt we leave our discs in the basket until everyone is done putting. Not to condone Kevin yelling at you and I don't know exactly what happened because I wasn't there but this is something you need to know about Lake Stevens to understand the local customs.



ive always known u were odd...and this proves it

[Toby Puttzinski]

The baskets/targets at Lake Stevens are super deep and there is zero chance of causing another player's shot to trampoline or chain out... it would be nice of some of the missing chains were replaced, but I really like the baskets... adds a different element and it's fun watching someone toil over a ten foot par putt from the unforgiving side of the basket.

[Parks]

You can always retrieve your disc upon holing out, because under some conditions (high winds, hanging in chains, disc wedged in side of basket) it is possible for someone to actually knock your disc out of the basket. The PDGA rule is that a disc must remain at rest in the entrapment device until it is retrieved. It is courteous to ask if the away player wants it pulled, however.

At Lake Stevens, I would assume that if you pull your disc and accidentally move the basket, then you could move it back to where it was and everything is fine and dandy.

The guy was an idiot for putting when someone had just holed out and assuming they wouldn't grab it.

[sillybizz]

ive always known u were odd...and this proves it

The tip of the iceberg my friend. :)

[sillybizz]

You can always retrieve your disc upon holing out, because under some conditions (high winds, hanging in chains, disc wedged in side of basket) it is possible for someone to actually knock your disc out of the basket. The PDGA rule is that a disc must remain at rest in the entrapment device until it is retrieved. It is courteous to ask if the away player wants it pulled, however.

At Lake Stevens, I would assume that if you pull your disc and accidentally move the basket, then you could move it back to where it was and everything is fine and dandy.

The guy was an idiot for putting when someone had just holed out and assuming they wouldn't grab it.

That sounds like sound logic. We are disc golfers, Parks we don't follow or practice this style of communication. :)

[captain jack]

That's what I thought too! But this guy told me that even though I had been playing for over 30 years that I didn't know s#!t.
I could hardly believe that a person claiming to have built the course would behave in such a manner.

Mike, there is only one person responsible for the Lake Stevens course, as I explained in the "Lake Stevens History" thread.

His name is Fred Chittendon. I played with Fred when he built the course.
I still have his card from his catching targets biz, Designer Pro Catching Target, his company slogan " A putt above the rest" :D
Fred was convinced that his baskets would take over the disc golf world.

Good thing he was also a dentist. :)

Freds a nice guy, I doubt he would do anything like your nutjob did.

Next time anybody claims responsibility for that course, just ask him, " Are you Fred ? ", if the answer is no, then tell him to fuck off and die.

[sillybizz]

Fred might be the one who is responsible for the course being put in but don't forget that the local players maintain that course at this time. Don't forget that Brian, Jesse, Chris, Don, Cajun, both steves, myself and many many others have helped keep this course alive. Without the locals volunteering their time and money into building bridges across the bog, running tournaments, working with local businesses, cleaning up litter, educating the local casuals and other thankless tasks that course would not be up and running, at least not where it is today. So yes Fred had the course put in but don't forget about the people that keep it in and do all the work!

[drkstr]

The baskets/targets at Lake Stevens are super deep and there is zero chance of causing another player's shot to trampoline or chain out...

au contraire mon frere (On the contrary, my brother)....I have had my putter (SSS Warlock) trampoline out after hitting a disc in the basket.....but you are right, the baskets are really deep so this does not happen very often.

[captain jack]

Two things.
First, I appreciate all that you, and everyone else does to maintain and improve the course, but no amount of maintenance gives anyone the right to be a dick like Michael described.

Second, you should always clear your disc from any basket before any other player shoots, its just good etiquette.
Teach everyone you play with to do this as well.
#14 at Lake Stevens is a regular basket, well, a sixteen chain regular basket, and a putt could easily be deflected by a disc in the basket, or in the chains.

If we all follow the same rules, regardless of the course, or basket style, the game will be much more fun for everyone.

Mike spinning the basket is a problem, but the other idiot should have given him time to clear his disc, then return the basket to its original position before he putted out.

[sillybizz]

Two things.
First, I appreciate all that you, and everyone else does to maintain and improve the course, but no amount of maintenance gives anyone the right to be a dick like Michael described.

Second, you should always clear your disc from any basket before any other player shoots, its just good etiquette.
Teach everyone you play with to do this as well.
#14 at Lake Stevens is a regular basket, well, a sixteen chain regular basket, and a putt could easily be deflected by a disc in the basket, or in the chains.

If we all follow the same rules, regardless of the course, or basket style, the game will be much more fun for everyone.

Mike spinning the basket is a problem, but the other idiot should have given him time to clear his disc, then return the basket to its original position before he putted out.

We are in complete agreement on everything you just said.

[Getty]

Mike, your review at DGCR disappeared. That's a good thing.

[The Ombudsman]

Mike, your review at DGCR disappeared. That's a good thing.

Not really. It's a bunch of shit.
It was an honest review. Just because a bunch of whiners flagged it does not make it a good thing.

[sillybizz]

Not really. It's a bunch of shit.
It was an honest review. Just because a bunch of whiners flagged it does not make it a good thing.

I had nothing to do with it for the record, I was shocked it was removed. I don't agree with it but I know it's your legitimate feeling.