Hitting the acepot during playoffs??!

[timberwolfe]

I am just curious if most clubs allow the acepot to carry over during a playoff to determine placement? I am just curious, and I need clarification on this. It just didnt seem right for the acepot to carry over into the playoff round for 2 ties at the end of regular play??:shooting:

[Sam]

I agree with you that it doesn't seem fair but I have seen it done. Bottom line is that it would be best to try for a tie so that you would get at least one more drive than everyone else giving you a higher chance of getting an ace.

[Skookum]

The ACE pot is a side game that folks pay into and these are my 2 rules:

1) An ACE must be a first throw from the tee into the basket(marked 1 on score card) during any round in which all players who paid into the ACE participated in(Not counting players that DNF).

2) All ACES regardless if thrown by one or many players receive an equal share of ACE pot minus 10% seed money to build the next pot. (If there are 4 ACES and you threw 2 you get 50% of pot after 10% is withheld). Money injected into ACE pot for special tournaments is exempt from the 10% rollover and will be paid out in full.



I know the seed money rule might be a conversation starter but I must say it sucks to get like $20 for an ACE the week after somebody cashes out $300. With 10% rollover its not so bad, they cash out $270 (not really a big difference 10% less) and I get $50 (a BIG difference of 150% more).

Am I missing any important ACE pot rules?

[ChUcK]

1. You don't talk about the ace pot

2. You don't talk about the ace pot.

3. Ace is not an acronym.

[Skookum]

1) my bad

2) I get it alright.... jez

3) It may not be an acronym but it should always be SHOUTED


ACE!

[Scott]

I agree that an ace hit during a playoff should not be paid out. Every player should have equal chances.

What about a someone playing cali in doubles that hits an ace with his second shot?

[Skookum]

did the player pay into the ACE pot twice? Because they usually don't and so my answer is no, but if they pay in twice to the ACE pot then I would count second shots from the tee.

[Wyman Gast]

I would like to get in on this ace pot!

[Scott]

I would like to get in on this ace pot!

You can. Tonight. Orchard Park. 5:30 sign-up.

[SMOKIN JOE]

I have tossed in an ace in overtime. I was paid out. I was still playing in the golf tournament. So why would I not be paid out. As it goes for someone playing cali. First shot only is the rule we use. But as any rule goes. What the T.D. sets up is O.K. with me.

[Ol' Bob]

Don't people have to earn their way into the playoffs?

[Skookum]

Don't people have to earn their way into the playoffs?

How is a tie "earning" your way into anything?

and as for Final 9 it is only available to one division so if you are in an age protected division you get less chances to play in the "side game" you put money into.

[Ol' Bob]

How is a tie "earning" your way into anything?

Wouldn't it be a tie for first?

With the understanding that the ace pot in question covers divisions that outright wins have already determined and thereby or otherwise eliminated from continued contention, then you certainly have a point there, Judge.

[Skookum]

I think its fairly common to play off or CTP for any trophy (since 3rd place ties can split money but not the award)

[Ol' Bob]

Skookum is a word that I just like. I've got an old cable block with that name on it. I've pulled me over some trees with that old thing that I found in the mud along the Columbia.

Back to your regularly scheduled program.

[Kenny B]

Obvioulsy TDs, doubles coordinators, bag tag coordinators, etc., can set whatever rules they want, but personally my vote is that playoff holes count and cali 2nd tees count (without paying into the ace pot twice).

[DMajor]

Obvioulsy TDs, doubles coordinators, bag tag coordinators, etc., can set whatever rules they want, but personally my vote is that playoff holes count and cali 2nd tees count (without paying into the ace pot twice).

I agree with this 100%. Aces are hard enough to get as it is. Excluding playoff holes and cali drives seems ridiculous unless you have a bunch of 1000rated players playing a super easy course. How often does that happen?

[Parks]

I run a weekly doubles thing, and only aces in regulation play count because that is the only way to make it fair and open for everyone to hit.

I do let Cali players take the whole ace pot. Even though its doubles, some teams may agree to keep the ace pot for themselves rather than split it, so a single player could take it home anyway. Also, I've found that Cali players often take too many drives running for aces instead of saving their extra shots for putts inside the circle, and they generally place worse because of this.

[timberwolfe]

Sunday random doubles, new club. Acepot up to 100-150. Top 3 pays. I guess if I wanted another run at the acepot I could tie intentionally?! 18 holes played, top spot leaves with -11. Playoff for 2nd and 3rd at -9. Random hole picked out of hat. Hole is less than 150 feet. Loud screams and yells!! We knew someone hit the ace!! They came back and it was announced that the acepot was still up for grabs and aceboy collect his prize. About 5 of us were kind of dumbfounded. It just felt weird and maybe because it was the guy holding the acepot money all along. Its up to the club I completely understand. It just did not seem right. We all put a buck to have equal opportunity to hit the acepot on an 18 hole round. It is what it is, I just needed other opinions and wanted to get ideas on what other formats clubs used. :shooting:

[LakeStevensBA]

Timberwolfe,
At the Lake Stevens doubles and Arlington doubles the person would NOT get paid for hitting an ace or ctp during a playoff hole. Also, if someone plays Cali, only their first throw counts for an ace or ctp.

We had an issue where a cali complained about not being paid after his second throw would have won a CTP. We make sure to announce it a couple times a season now so hopefully nobody gets pissed when they find out they aren't getting paid.

I'm surprised any doubles would pay out an ace on a playoff hole. These are just bonus holes that only a few people get to play. Make that guy return the ace pot...or at least buy adult beverages for everyone! (good luck with that)

[Tim]

I run a weekly doubles thing, and only aces in regulation play count because that is the only way to make it fair and open for everyone to hit.

I do let Cali players take the whole ace pot. Even though its doubles, some teams may agree to keep the ace pot for themselves rather than split it, so a single player could take it home anyway. Also, I've found that Cali players often take too many drives running for aces instead of saving their extra shots for putts inside the circle, and they generally place worse because of this.

That's the same approach I take in any tourneys I run. Seems to make the most sense to me, and also requires less explaining, which I'm always a fan of.