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Wyman Gast
July 1st, 2010, 10:30 PM
I just got, I guess you could say, 'back' into disc golfing after a long hiatus. I played for a summer several years ago and was somewhat capable, now after all this time I am apparently still somewhat capable so I am VERY excited to be playing again.

The last time I played, Adair was in the planning stages. I was friends with Pat Ferrall's little brother who got me into the sport. Pat Ferrall, I believe might somwhow have been involved with planning the Adair course. When we played Adair the baskets had not been placed and the actual lane selection had not been finalized. At this time, there was not a single hole south of the parking lot. It was all in the open in the main parkway! Imagine my surprise when I show up the other evening to play a round and enter the 'back nine' I guess you could call it (this was the evening a found Hyatts disc which I created a thread for in the lost and found)...

Anyhow, I'll get to the point: Immediately after finding Adair had been changed drastically from what I had known it to be previously I wanted a little more markings in the baskets. What is the etiquette? I have surveyor's ribbon I can use for the baskets but would it be offensive to sort of hang in the trees several little flags that would create a nice smooth, direct arc from the pad to the basket so one doesnt have to keep running up and spotting the lane before throwing? There doesn't seem to be many options.
I have also noticed that the material of the baskets themselves blend in entirely too well, especially near dusk and with the basket under a canopy. Thoughts on painting the baskets?

Eric Olson
July 1st, 2010, 10:36 PM
Please do not mark, paint or hang anything from the baskets.

RonTheWhip
July 1st, 2010, 10:42 PM
YES, bad idea to "mark" baskets. They do not belong to you, please treat them with respect. The tee signs at Adair are amazing and we are divising a system to mark on the sign what position the basket would be in.

Thanks for asking first.

Wyman Gast
July 1st, 2010, 10:48 PM
I would NEVER paint a basket. Just curious as to how the act is regarded. Pretty negatively apparently haha..

RonTheWhip
July 2nd, 2010, 12:10 AM
I would NEVER paint a basket. Just curious as to how the act is regarded. Pretty negatively apparently haha..

Haha, check this thread out if you really want to know how negatively...

http://www.nwdiscgolfnews.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3891

Wyman Gast
July 2nd, 2010, 12:35 AM
Well in all honesty that thread is fairly divided with an interesting mix: One camp siding with the course owner, one camp arguing against it out-right and a trend towards everyone not encouraging the act ofsigning the basket for it could lead to vandalism. All being completely reasonable.

I was just curious about hanging a little surveyors ribbon, even that most would be against it seems. No problem. Too bad Benton County Public Parks doesn't paint their baskets. That would be nice.

Can't wait until it stops raining!

JMan
July 2nd, 2010, 06:59 AM
problem using tape in the fairways is that parks departments use said tape to mark trees for pruning, removal, or saving. If lots of tape were to just start showing up it would raise questions as to who really manages the property. Best to just learn the lines and distances to all pins in the daylight.
Enjoy,
'J'

Tim
July 2nd, 2010, 07:40 AM
I've seen survey tape hung from the basket before, and while it does help in seeing the target, the end result is that it looks tacky, IMO. Bright/reflective tape can be put on the pole to help out with low light conditions, and be done tastefully. I do, however, like a piece of survey tape or something in a tree as a point of reference if the basket is blind or hard to see from the tee.

Adam Schneider
July 2nd, 2010, 09:02 AM
http://www.dgcoursereview.com/course_pics/3374/c7234015.jpg

Wyman Gast
July 2nd, 2010, 04:57 PM
Most of my concern is with baskets that are hidden. I admit placing ribbon on the basket will do nothing for the player on the pad.

My thought is that two well placed ribbons could help tremendously when viewed standing squarely on the pad. One ribbon on a square longitudinal axis from the basket (viewed from the pad as stated) and another ribbon on a square lateral axis would allow you to triangulate the position of the basket no matter the obstacles that are positioned between the pad and basket. An obvious plus would be the fact that with this technique the ribbons would be not on the basket, or for that matter not anywhere near it for to achieve an accurate position by triangulation the ribbons would need to be far off to the side of the actual flight lane. Just a thought.

ChUcK
July 2nd, 2010, 05:49 PM
There comes a point when marking becomes excessive and unpleasant to look at i.e. the OB signs at Lakewood that came from an Adam West Batman show.
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w314/cdhgufclk/ELITE%20EIGHT/batman_pow.jpg

Holy OB, Batman. No, if you start marking the course up too much it will lose much of the visual appeal of the dg experience. A nice sign intelligently placed like what Adam showed would be ideal- not visually invasive yet unmistakable to those seeking its guidance.

Wyman Gast
July 2nd, 2010, 06:03 PM
Yeah... Batman signs would be obnoxious. Until they were stolen.

ChUcK
July 2nd, 2010, 07:23 PM
I'll see if I remember to snap a cell phone pic for you next time I play. Incidentally, we just lost the hole that those signs called home, so they no longer haunt my hole 7 dreams.

"Over the Hill" Bob
July 2nd, 2010, 07:32 PM
Hanging ribbon would certainly help in finding the best route to the basket but it would only be helpful to the person hanging it. There are multiple routes on most holes and what works for a RHBH doesn't work so well for a LHBH. Also courses such as Adair have multiple pin positions and get moved regularly. Every time out you'd have to remove your old ribbon and hang new. Best to just walk up, find the basket and throw. Welcome back to our great sport.

Bob

Wyman Gast
July 2nd, 2010, 07:41 PM
Hanging ribbon would certainly help in finding the best route to the basket but it would only be helpful to the person hanging it. There are multiple routes on most holes and what works for a RHBH doesn't work so well for a LHBH. Also courses such as Adair have multiple pin positions and get moved regularly. Every time out you'd have to remove your old ribbon and hang new. Best to just walk up, find the basket and throw. Welcome back to our great sport.

Bob

I didn't consider the basket being moved. Triangulation wouldn't work in that situation. Oh well. Just a thought.

Having a hard time coming up with Disc Golf topics to present. It isn't really that kind of a sport I guess, which of course is one of the very things that make it so great! :wink2:

TreeLove
July 2nd, 2010, 08:19 PM
If you don't know the hole, walk it. Once you've seen it, you know the hole. Go play.

captain jack
July 2nd, 2010, 08:41 PM
Anyhow, I'll get to the point: Immediately after finding Adair had been changed drastically from what I had known it to be previously I wanted a little more markings in the baskets. What is the etiquette? I have surveyor's ribbon I can use for the baskets but would it be offensive to sort of hang in the trees several little flags that would create a nice smooth, direct arc from the pad to the basket so one doesnt have to keep running up and spotting the lane before throwing? There doesn't seem to be many options.
I have also noticed that the material of the baskets themselves blend in entirely too well, especially near dusk and with the basket under a canopy. Thoughts on painting the baskets?
:nono:

Hanging tape from trees is littering, plain and simple.

Just play the course a few more times until you learn the lines you want, and save the decorations for the christmas tree.

ChUcK
July 2nd, 2010, 09:35 PM
If you don't know the hole, walk it. Once you've seen it, you know the hole. Go play.

Well said, and the brevity earns extra points. That system always works for me no matter which course I'm playing for the first time. The only details you might not glean from a quick fairway stroll are all the specific locally-known hazards to navigate. That sort of knowledge only comes from being a local.

Wyman Gast
July 2nd, 2010, 09:47 PM
Good points. I guess I'm too much of a gamer. I like all kinds of moving lines and arrows and pointers.

All in all, I should stop over thinking and play.

erp
July 2nd, 2010, 10:32 PM
How much coin would you cough up for some McGiver cheat codes?

Good points. I guess I'm too much of a gamer. I like all kinds of moving lines and arrows and pointers.

All in all, I should stop over thinking and play.