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Wes Hansen
June 23rd, 2010, 12:43 AM
It seems odd to me that old events receive updated ratings for players.
It would be more logical for the PDGA to lock a player's rating on the event pages at the rating the player had when they played the event.
Right?
snap7times
June 23rd, 2010, 08:40 AM
I did wonder about that when I joined the PDGA, but realized that is asking for a lot of computer geekness to be able to set up the programming to memorize ratings at the time of each tournament while updating the players ratings seprately. It is easy to have one code that updates the players rating wherever that player is in PDGA database, plus the same program/code is used when TD's enter registered players to their tournaments and it automatically retrieves the players ratings into the tournament registered list. If someone really wants to know what the player was rated at the time of the tournament, simply look up the player's ratings history and see what their rating was during that time frame? Less work for the PDGA's programming and keeps it simple and straight forward?
Scott
June 23rd, 2010, 10:27 AM
I did wonder about that when I joined the PDGA, but realized that is asking for a lot of computer geekness to be able to set up the programming to memorize ratings at the time of each tournament while updating the players ratings seprately. It is easy to have one code that updates the players rating wherever that player is in PDGA database, plus the same program/code is used when TD's enter registered players to their tournaments and it automatically retrieves the players ratings into the tournament registered list. If someone really wants to know what the player was rated at the time of the tournament, simply look up the player's ratings history and see what their rating was during that time frame? Less work for the PDGA's programming and keeps it simple and straight forward?
Actually, it's trickier to have the ratings change dynamically. It would be much simpler just to dump the data onto the page in text that would never change.
Wes Hansen
June 24th, 2010, 12:18 AM
Scott's logic was the same I used.
Event page info should never be subject to change (except to correct an error in fact), so why make it changeable?
Scott
June 24th, 2010, 08:46 AM
Scott's logic was the same I used.
Event page info should never be subject to change (except to correct an error in fact), so why make it changeable?
I don't know the history of this decision, but I suspect the answer is "because they can". Whoever programmed the site originally wrote it that way without anyone questioning if they should. Not all that uncommon, unfortunately.
Jeff Hemmerling
June 24th, 2010, 12:16 PM
It seems odd to me that old events receive updated ratings for players.
It would be more logical for the PDGA to lock a player's rating on the event pages at the rating the player had when they played the event.
Right?I agree Wes. That has always bothered me. For older tournament results it's difficult to get a perspective on how people did versus their ratings because you don't know what their rating was at that time. :mad:
Tim
June 24th, 2010, 12:48 PM
I seem to remember Chuck K. saying something about how the old/new ratings thing was something a lot of people complained about. I think he said that a fix was in the works, but that was a while ago.
Chuck Kennedy
June 24th, 2010, 08:08 PM
Still in the works but closer. We will be able to populate all older events online with the ratings players had when they played the event once this project gets the priority. Theo might be able to comment if you run into him out there.
Jeff Hemmerling
June 25th, 2010, 01:57 AM
We will be able to populate all older events online with the ratings players had when they played the event once this project gets the priority.Great news Chuck! Thanks for posting.
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