WB tee signs: what do you think?

[Flatroc]

Shaweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeT! :cheers:
Kudos again to Nate Baker, Josh Gausnell, Will Mckinerney and all those who've helped.
Thanks for helping this old farts dreams become real. :biggrin2:

[Adam Schneider]

You can't post a link to a message in your own mailbox!

[Flatroc]

Sorry, I got excited and I'm not as smart as a 5th grader.
Do you have any ideas you'd like to share.
thanks and sorry again

[Huk-DMC]

http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/83/hole1beta.jpg

I think that should work.

[NWDiscer]

:yay::cheerleader::bowing:

:cheers::trophy:

:rockon:

[Adam Schneider]

My browser doesn't like that image 'cause it's CMYK... here it is converted to RGB, cropped, and shrunk a bit:

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/83/hole1beta.jpg

[Adam Schneider]

It looks great, by the way; as nice as I've seen. And they will be VERY helpful for #10, #11, #12, etc., where right now you have no idea where the basket is if you don't know the course.



(Shouldn't there be an apostrophe in "Whistler's"?)

[Uhlman]

they look awesome. I especially like the distance markers on there.

[Another Primate]

Nice work, Nate!
Apostrophe question: I often leave out the apostrophe because I don't know if it's Whistler's (bend is named after a guy named Whistler, or a single whistler of some sort) or Whistlers' (multiple whistlers).
Tried googling for the history, but no luck... did find that it's singular, though (according to the county parts department).
So, I say we make up our own story. Whistlers Bend: It's not an adjective and a noun, but a noun and a verb, and it's a directive. "It's a good idea for anyone whistling to bend while they whistle." We could even use a comma and an exclamation point:
Whistlers, bend!
And a penalty stroke for anyone who whistles without bending. Yeah.

Anyway, really, I posted to pay homage to the signs. Can't wait to see them! Thanks, guys.

[Adam Schneider]

Everything on the Douglas County Parks Web site uses the apostrophe; assumably it's named after an early settler named Whistler?

You won't find an apostrophe on USGS maps, but that's because they have a weird anti-apostrophe policy in place names, even when it should obviously be there (e.g., Marys Peak).

[the flogging putter]

Once the sign'''''''''''''''''''''s are done we will be having a work party to put them in. Everyone is more then welcome to come and be apart of this. When i get the signs it will happen pretty fast and i will post a notice on here for a work party.

[bryan_luoma]

Very nice looking signs, great work!

I'm curious how the "current setting" feature works.
How do you toggle the "current setting" from one position to another to indicate the current pin-placement?

[Uhlman]

Very nice looking signs, great work!

I'm curious how the "current setting" feature works.
How do you toggle the "current setting" from one position to another to indicate the current pin-placement?

Just looking at the sign, it looks like you drill out the center of the indicators and then place a bolt or something though the hole indicating the placement.

[Adam Schneider]

Just looking at the sign, it looks like you drill out the center of the indicators and then place a bolt or something though the hole indicating the placement.
Yes, and I just noticed the other two pink spots in the top and bottom center. Clearly, those are meant to be drilled.

[Uhlman]

Yes, and I just noticed the other two pink spots in the top and bottom center. Clearly, those are meant to be drilled.

one would think they would have an x in the circle to indicate drilling needed but I guess not everyone uses the same standards

[the flogging putter]

one would think they would have an x in the circle to indicate drilling needed but I guess not everyone uses the same standards

Oo

[discgolforegon]

First... thianks for all the kudos on the teesigns. I have more than 60 hours of design work into the project, and ALOT more coming. signs 1-3 are finalized and in the books. We took wheel measurments of trees... pins, logs, etc.

I didnt want the maps to be hyper acurate... only give you a really good idea of what you are shooting at.

As for the pink circles... thats the color that the plotter uses to cut the vinyl.... so in the final product after they get the UV/graffitti laminate... those little pink circles will get cut out. They also let me know not to put a pin setting icon under the bolt... next tee... etc. As for marking the current setting... there will be small pad locks that we will move with the pins to indicate them.

The best part about these signs is if anything changes... new pin settings, etc... All we need is to modify and print a new sign... WOOT! super cheap!

If you have any constructive critisism, advice, or rants... let me know. I have tried to include everyone in this project... since i dont own whistlers i didnt want to be the only one building its signs. So far i am very thankful for the gausnells and the willie mac for getting the fuinds, and allowing me the opportunity to provide whistlers with platinum standard signage.

I hope everyone enjoys the signs for years to come... i cannot wait to see the final product installed at whistlers. WOOT!

Oh and thanks to Yoseman and Ernie for getting whistlers in the ground all those years ago...Great job gentlemen.

Nate

[TreeLove]

Say, what IS the official distance for hole 14, upper pad to original pin? I think I have an email to write to the PDGA....

[discgolforegon]

I believe its 725 feet. last time we measured it we used a wheel. walked a straightline path to the pin from the upper pad. the wheel we used is pretty good on that terrain... didn't skip much at all so it should be pretty accurate. I have been meaning to get out there with the 1000' tape and see what measurment i get.

Does the PDGA want the distance measured by GPS, range finders, wheel? surveying stuff? Cause i would like to use what means the PDGA requires to get the distances for every pin setting at whistlers bend. Let me know gawain.

thanks!

[TreeLove]

I will try and find that out. My father-in-law just gave us a laser rangefinder! Is there an extra Whistler's trip in my future....? Stay tuned!

[Adam Schneider]

Laser rangefinder is the best option by far, if you've got one handy. The only question then, on a hole like that, is whether to report the base of the triangle or the hypoteneuse.

[TreeLove]

Distance from tee to pin has got to be distance from tee to pin. It has just got to be. Hypotenuse. Otherwise, the stat is meaningless! What if a hole were 900 feet down, and 10 feet ahead? Is that a 10-foot hole? I think it cannot be....

[Adam Schneider]

Distance from tee to pin has got to be distance from tee to pin. It has just got to be. Hypotenuse. Otherwise, the stat is meaningless! What if a hole were 900 feet down, and 10 feet ahead? Is that a 10-foot hole? I think it cannot be....
No, it's not a 10' hole... but you have to admit it doesn't take 900' of power!

Truth is, on most holes, it doesn't matter much. A 400' (horizontal) hole that goes up or down 50' is only 403'! WB#14's elevation is an extreme case; but even there, if it's 700' across and 150' down, the hypoteneuse is only 16' longer.

[TreeLove]

No, it's not a 10' hole... but you have to admit it doesn't take 900' of power!

OK, fine, so the hole is 900 feet UP, and 10 feet forward: Now it requires LOTS of power! Is the hole:

a) 900 feet
b) 10 feet
c) more than 900 feet

Answer: C!

[Adam Schneider]

OK, fine, so the hole is 900 feet UP, and 10 feet forward: Now it requires LOTS of power! Is the hole:

a) 900 feet
b) 10 feet
c) more than 900 feet

Answer: C!
Sure, if you want to call 900.055 "more" than 900. :)

[Another Primate]

Another complication:
I watched Pina-the-third park it about thirty feet from the pin. So measuring through the air to the pin, for him, makes sense. When I throw, my goal is to put it at the bottom of the hill, this side of the road. Next shot, across the road and while it would be sweet to make it past the gully, it ain't gonna happen in most cases. Then up the hill to the pin. So if we were to make a triangle (not a right-angle triangle, either) out of that picture, Pina's got the top leg, and I have the other two legs (pad to bottom of gully to top of pin hill)... grinning... my route, even if I throw it straight, has to add many extra feet to that hole.
Yeah, I'm sure pin distances don't account for my "along the ground" route. But. What if it's more extreme than that, and even a good player can't count on his shots traveling that plane? Let's say Grizzly. Shouldn't the distances be measured between a pro's best shot points, then added together?
Oh, wait. That's stupid. Sorry. C'mon, Sue... the reason, the reason for distances, is "hey, how far away is that pin", not "how far am I gonna have to walk to get to that pin"?
Carry on.

[Matt B.]

I got a chance to see the new tee signs on the first few holes this weekend. Great job - those are some of the best tee signs I've seen, both in terms of accurate info and good looks. One question though - any thought to mounting them on posts insted of into the trees? I know the old signs were also in the trees so the parks people must be okay with it, but there's something kind of harsh about seeing these great new signs screwed right into living trees. It won't kill the tree, but it can injure them somewhat, and make a lot of sap run onto the sign, etc. And it just kind of hurts to look at.

I know posts and cement aren't free.