Whiners in the Woods B-Tier may 15-16

[papatart]

Hey there disc golfers! The Washington series is returning to the West side of the sound for a great B-Tier event on May 15 and 16th. The tourney will be held at both NAD and the Kitsap Fairground courses. For more info you can go to http://www.wsdga.org and download a flyer. You can also sign up online at PDGA.com.

This event is being co-TD'ed by Paul Wright and myself and we are planning on busting out all the stops to make this an event to remember. We have a bunch of cool fundraising discs coming (we will tell you, just not quite yet) that will be available for purchase at the Dalaiwood course pro shop or through Paul Wright or myself. Not to mention the folks out here are busting major butt to get the courses in the best shape they have ever been in. If you have played them before, you are in for some surprises. And if you haven't played them before, you need to prepare yourself to be tested in ways you haven't been tested before.

If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me here on the forum, through PM or my email at spapa@centurytel.net. You can also reach me bu phone at (253) 853-1914. Stand by for more info and get ready to head west for a great time.

Hope to wee you out here, sign up soon and let's get ready for the wood!

Later,
Scott Papa

[Nathan]

This is going to be a fun one! :yay: Can't wait to finally have a semi-home course tournament. Your going to want to bring all of your different shots.

Oh ya! I almost forgot. This is going to be a fun/cool final nine.

[sillybizz]

I'm already signed up! :)

[WestsoundBT]

http://web.mac.com/uwblt/WSDGA/Posters_files/WhinersPosterFinal12x18.jpg

Looking forward to capturing some action shots on film for this one as photographer. In the meantime, work on your putting form to show off your "best side":shocked:

BT

[olydiscgolf]

Im in! Sounds like a lot of fun.

[GettinBetter]

I tried to sign my wife up but there is no option for Intermediate women. But when I looked at the registration there was a woman signed up in that division....

[REDFIVE]

I tried to sign my wife up but there is no option for Intermediate women. But when I looked at the registration there was a woman signed up in that division....

you should wait for the event to start whining, whiner.

[mazza]

you should wait for the event to start whining, whiner.

hahahahaha

[GettinBetter]

you should wait for the event to start whining, whiner.

thats a good one...

[TREX]

http://www.pdga.com/event?TournID=10224

direct link to sign up online

[REDFIVE]

Looks like the final nine is decided. where are the pros?

[sillybizz]

Looks like the final nine is decided. where are the pros?

Should I play open with my 865 rating? :slapface:

[REDFIVE]

Should I play open with my 865 rating? :slapface:

every time.

[Wobbly Bob]

:rolleyes2:Too bad this tournament was scheduled on the same weekend as the Zoo Town Open. :slapface:

[olydiscgolf]

:rolleyes2:Too bad this tournament was scheduled on the same weekend as the Zoo Town Open. :slapface:

Good thing they are 400 miles apart

[PuttsRrad]

if you take money with a 865 rating, you can't be AM anymore - fyi

[sillybizz]

I don't think I'll be having any problems taking money in open with a 865 rating! :laughing: I'm playing Intermediate and that may be a stretch!

[all2common]

if you take money with a 865 rating, you can't be AM anymore - fyi

I think this is false. Apparently you can take cash and compete in amateur divisions until your rating hits 970.

[GettinBetter]

:rolleyes2:Too bad this tournament was scheduled on the same weekend as the Zoo Town Open. :slapface:

I dont think that is a problem...

[GettinBetter]

Went out to NAD over the weekend and the course is looking pretty sweet! There is now a blue teepad for hole 3 on the other side of the path by hole 1 (blue). Also there were two pads that had some concrete added to them for different pin placements (so now you dont have to throw from the dirt.) I cant remember what hole number that is, but it is the short uphill shot with a tight window.

[The Ombudsman]

Damn! Too bad the organization of the Washington State Series and INWS was so disjointed
The dates were set way too late. I regret not being able to make this tournament due to other obligations that weekend. Had I known about this in a timely manner, say like by the end of February, I could have made it.

These are great courses. With Papa and Paul running the show, I have no doubts that this will be an EPIC weekend.

[Tim]

I've hardly touched a disc the last couple weeks, but I'm still stoked for this tourney. Been a long time coming, IMO.

Question, is there camping available anywhere near the courses? Or better yet, does anybody a yard/couch/floor available? I'd like to avoid multiple drives over to the peninsula if possible.

[chanman]

Im thinking about coming down...

[REDFIVE]

Do you have the nads for it?

[mazza]

at least it will be on fair ground

[LJ Jubner]

Good thing they are 400 miles apart

I have started a new thread with this Tag line. So as not to hijack this thread.

[REDFIVE]

Rumor has it the tourney pin positions will be in place on monday. is this correct?

[papatart]

Rumor has it the tourney pin positions will be in place on monday. is this correct?


I have not been able to confirm this, but that is what Paul told me last week. They were in the short position for World's biggest and were supposed to move after that.

I will let you know as soon as I have a definite answer.

Later,
Papa

[mazza]

I have not been able to confirm this, but that is what Paul told me last week. They were in the short position for World's biggest and were supposed to move after that.

I will let you know as soon as I have a definite answer.

Later,
Papa

hey scott thanks for that buzz ss and the drone. i just hope i can learn them before this event. do u all think there will be room for me to sign up day of??

[sillybizz]

Do you have the nads for it?

:laughing: Clever use of word play my friend.

[Pizzel]

Can anyone share information about the two courses being used for this tourney (I have never played either). Any interesting tweeks to the course layouts worth noting? Thanks.

[Tim]

Well, as the name of the tourney suggests, both courses are very woodsy, there are only a few "open" shots to be had between the two. NAD from the red tees and short pins is relatively easy, blue tees to short pins is challenging, as is red tees to long pins. Blue tees to long pins is pretty friggin' tough. I can't recall if anyone's shot under par on that layout yet, but if they have, there haven't been many to do so. Fairgrounds is newer and was designed to be a more challenging course from the outset, but I think I've only seen one set of pin placements there (only played it a couple times though). It's easier than the NAD blue/longs, but the schule can be unforgiving.

Compared to PDX courses I'd say they're comparable to Horning's, Rooster East (though more fair), and maybe the woodsy holes at Hagg. Good amount of elevation in both of them, but nothing quite as big as what you see at Meadow Ridge.

Some of the holes at Fairgrounds are very much friendlier to lefties or sidearms, but by and large, there's a good mix at both courses.

I don't know what kind of craziness they might be throwing into the mix for this tourney though.

[papatart]

Let's see, where to start on describing the courses. I can tell you that accuracy will be paramount to a good score as being able to navigate fairways will be the word of the weekend. While NAD is more open in the trees, the shots for the long pins are much tougher than anything that Fairgrounds can dole out. You will see a little elevation change on both courses, just enough to make a lot of the shots challenging. Fairgrounds will be the course to be scoring on, even though the rough is much more deadly there. NAD will be set in almost all long positions for the pins (the exception will be the water tower/missile silo hole #8.) making it a very difficult par 54 course. Also, NAD will be playing as originally designed with the paths and over being OB. They will be marked out before the event to help eliminate over the top whining but it will still be fair game for too many OB's whining.....

As for the course at NAD-Blue tees to long pins has been shot under par VERY infrequently. As far as I know the best score is still a 51 and that was a pretty clean round. Any scores close to even will be worthy. Fairgrounds sets itself up much easier with a couple of strings of gettable deuces if you can control your distance and hit the gaps. You won't be seeing too many baskets from the teepad so distance control is important.

Looking forward to seeing everyone out here and it looks as though the cool special discs should be arriving early next week. CH Glow Destroyers, Wraiths, Monarchs, Gummy Star Rhynos, Xtra grippy Champ Bosses, Star Echo Bosses and Destroyers, Rubber Wood Aviar, San Marino and Ontario Rocs, Crystal Challengers, Stalkers, Avenger SS and Buzzz plus more!

See ya!
Scott Papa

[Pizzel]

Scott and Tim, thanks for the info. Sounds like XD and Leopard heaven. I hope to sign-up in the next few days.

[REDFIVE]

51 is the record in the longs, what is the record for the short pins from blue?

[REDFIVE]

Will the new tee on 2 be played?

[KCrabtree]

51 is the record in the longs, what is the record for the short pins from blue?

Big Dawg & Bjorn just shot -14, doubles, from blue on sat. bjorn aced hole 4.

[REDFIVE]

Big Dawg & Bjorn just shot -14, doubles, from blue on sat. bjorn aced hole 4.

Nice that has to be the dubs record. I shot a -10 on friday and am curious how far off I am from the little pin record.

[GettinBetter]

Will the new tee on 2 be played?

papa said no...

[desert_heat20]

Is there any where near by that would be good for camping? There are a few of us coming over and we are looking to camp close to or in between the courses.

[douglaselvis]

The closest camping you're going to find will be at Illahee state park. Which is close to Fairgrouds and NAD, not walking distance by any means.

There is also Scenic beach state park which is a 20 minute drive away from NAD.

Also, there is Kitsap Memorial Park which is a little further north but a nice camping area.

[WestsoundBT]

Scenic Beach and Kitsap Memorial are both great Hood Canal fronting parks with great sunsets. Illahee state park (main Sound side with campground far away from the shore) should be checked on first, as I believe it may have been "mothballed" with a locked gate last I recalled. I'd recommend Scenic Beach myself. More "rustic" opportunities might exist in the Green Mountain state forest or Tahuya state forest lands, but you'll have to share with bikers and dirt bikes.

BT

[WestsoundBT]

Quick update: My local sources tell me the mothballing of Illahee state park never materialized as threatened. But again, check first.

BT

[Flingin fireman]

I just received word today that the fairgrounds will be opening up camping. There are no hook ups for RV's but nice tent sites. The area is just north of Gordon fields adjacent to the course. They would like people to register by next Thursday and the cost is $10.00 per night. If you are interested let me know and I can contact the county to let them know people are interestd.
pwright@wavecable.com
Paul

[GettinBetter]

if you are practicing before the tourney start playing a mando right from blue 3 (new pad). You cannot go over the water.

[GettinBetter]

are we going to be playing in 5somes? Just curious because of the 90+ people signed up already. Ghost groups? Pools?

[REDFIVE]

2 courses
36 holes
4 people per hole
144 players
72 ams
72 pros

[GettinBetter]

I hope I am not playing fairgrounds twice...

[REDFIVE]

sorry eric.

[sillybizz]

I hope I am not playing fairgrounds twice...

Play open and then you only play it once.

[DMajor]

Play open and then you only play it once.

Are the pools set already?

[Nathan]

Are the pools set already?

Scott said they should be set by the end of the weekend so that people can know what course to show up to.

[papatart]

Are the pools set already?

Although the pools had a preliminary setup, they are now going to be set up this way.....

Open Men, Open Women, Pro Masters and Advanced Men will now be in the pool that will start at NAD on Saturday, play Fairgrounds Sat Afternoon and NAD on Sunday Morning before heading to Fairgrounds for Final nine and payout.

All other divisions will start at Fairgrounds on Saturday morning, play NAD on Saturday afternoon and be back at Farigrounds for Sunday morning and stay there for final nine skins and payout.

Coolio? Great! Now if you haven't signed up yet, git'er done as it is filling quick and you don't want to be the one left out in the cold....

Later,
Scott Papa

[GettinBetter]

I might have to change to adv. But then I'm not with my wife for any round, don't know how transportation will work.

[olydiscgolf]

I might have to change to adv. But then I'm not with my wife for any round, don't know how transportation will work.

There will be plenty of folks to help get you back and forth between courses.

[DMajor]

Although the pools had a preliminary setup, they are now going to be set up this way.....

Open Men, Open Women, Pro Masters and Advanced Men will now be in the pool that will start at NAD on Saturday, play Fairgrounds Sat Afternoon and NAD on Sunday Morning before heading to Fairgrounds for Final nine and payout.

All other divisions will start at Fairgrounds on Saturday morning, play NAD on Saturday afternoon and be back at Farigrounds for Sunday morning and stay there for final nine skins and payout.

Coolio? Great! Now if you haven't signed up yet, git'er done as it is filling quick and you don't want to be the one left out in the cold....

Later,
Scott Papa


Thanks

[mazza]

i hope to make it in to this tourny. but i can't pay till day of and i know alot of people are wanting to play this one. but i guess i could play adv if need be

[Pizzel]

OK, I signed-up last night......can I start whinning now? I may have to call Feldberg for some advice.

[papatart]

OK, I signed-up last night......can I start whinning now? I may have to call Feldberg for some advice.

Oooooh, please remember that the division you are signing up for is NOT based on your ability to whine but on your disc golf prowess. Wait, I guess Feldberg could be World Champ either way (I know Dave, I am always working you, come on now and just have some fun with us.....)

Later,
Papa

[JR Stengele]

Hey Scott or anyone else,

Are there player packs? IF so, do you know what they are? I am guessing there are CFR discs for sale?

[BIGARMBRANDON]

is there going to be a final 9 for anyone other than the pro field?? Advanced men?????? pu pu pu pleeeaaassssee

[DMajor]

Hey Scott or anyone else,

Are there player packs? IF so, do you know what they are? I am guessing there are CFR discs for sale?

Your a CFR junkie

[cefire]

Anybody planning on camping at Fairgrounds...?

[Nathan]

is there going to be a final 9 for anyone other than the pro field?? Advanced men?????? pu pu pu pleeeaaassssee

Its a unique final nine. The tournament is over after 3 rounds but the 4 top pros are taken to play a skin doubles match. Their partner is chosen by the pro drawing a raffle ticket. The player with the matching raffle ticket gets to play an alternate shot doubles match with the pro. Raffle tickets will be sold but not sure on price. It should be fun.

[JR Stengele]

Your a CFR junkie

I am, I think I need therapy!

[GettinBetter]

Its a unique final nine. The tournament is over after 3 rounds but the 4 top pros are taken to play a skin doubles match. Their partner is chosen by the pro drawing a raffle ticket. The player with the matching raffle ticket gets to play an alternate shot doubles match with the pro. Raffle tickets will be sold but not sure on price. It should be fun.

thats..... interesting

[GettinBetter]

Is the players meeting at the same place, then leave to respected courses. Or do is there two seperate player meetings?

[REDFIVE]

thats..... interesting

That's what I thought. Kind of odd.

[papatart]

Okay, sorry about the absence from the board but things got a little busy around the place. so here are some answers....

Nathan is correct on his assessment of how the final nine is working. Jason Coke used this format at the Steilly supertour and it has also been used quite successfully around the country at events. I know it was a great success for Jason and we are hoping to have the same luck. It's cool because EVERYONE has a chance to get into the skins (it's all in the luck of the draw) and everyone also gets the chance to see the top players of the event playing. Neither of those things are true when there is a final nine for all the divisions. There will be money already set for the skins and all money from the raffle tickets will be added to the pot so hopefully it can get biggity big! Tickets will be a five bucks each or five for twenty. Yep, it's more than your typical dollar raffle but you are putting money in to get a chance to play with a top pro to win some cash in front of all your buddies. How cool is that? Very cool...

As for players packs you will be sitting very nice. All divisions, with the exception of Open Men, will be getting custom printed dri-fit t-shirts. ALL divisions will be getting a disc of either the ESP or Star type, four models of each plastic to choose from. Want the best choice? Get to the tourney early to check in and you will get the best choice.

As for CFR discs....yes, we got 'em. Already in at the pro shop at Dalaiwood are Cryztal Challengers, Stalkers, Buzzz's and Avenger SS's. Coming today will be the Innova load with Glow Champion Destroyers, Wraiths and Monarchs, Gummy Star Rhynos, Rubber Wood Aviars, Ontario Rocs and San Marino Rocs and Echo Destroyers, Bosses and Wraiths. This should be what Innova is sending so don't kill me if it all doesn't show up. So stop by Dalaiwood early or see us at the event for your chance to get some cool plastic.

As for where to be on tourney day (Saturday), you need to be at the course you play first. For Open Men, Open Women, Pro Masters and Advanced you all need to be at NAD for check in and ready to play the first round. For those who have not attended a tourney run by me before, please know that we will run ON TIME with no exceptions. We do this so as to not penalize the vast majority of the people that are on time and have planned their day accordingly. All other divisions need to be at the Kitsap Fairground course to check in on Saturday morning and be ready to play there. If you have any further questions please post them or send me a message and I will get back to you as quickly as I can.

Also, from the Paul office, the campgrounds look awesome and are well worth the 10 bucks a night. Paul is checking today into whether or not more than one tent can be placed at the sight and whether or not the showers will be functioning for the event. He is hoping to get this going so I will keep everyone appraised.

I think that answered all the questions that I see. If I missed something I am sure you will all be MORE than happy to let me know. If you have not signed up yet and are planning to come and play, please get with either me or Paul so that we can be ready for you as we are setting boards and prepping for play right now.

Thanks for everyone's support and get ready for a great weekend!

Later,
Papa

[JR Stengele]

Okay, sorry about the absence from the board but things got a little busy around the place. so here are some answers....

Nathan is correct on his assessment of how the final nine is working. Jason Coke used this format at the Steilly supertour and it has also been used quite successfully around the country at events. I know it was a great success for Jason and we are hoping to have the same luck. It's cool because EVERYONE has a chance to get into the skins (it's all in the luck of the draw) and everyone also gets the chance to see the top players of the event playing. Neither of those things are true when there is a final nine for all the divisions. There will be money already set for the skins and all money from the raffle tickets will be added to the pot so hopefully it can get biggity big! Tickets will be a five bucks each or five for twenty. Yep, it's more than your typical dollar raffle but you are putting money in to get a chance to play with a top pro to win some cash in front of all your buddies. How cool is that? Very cool...

As for players packs you will be sitting very nice. All divisions, with the exception of Open Men, will be getting custom printed dri-fit t-shirts. ALL divisions will be getting a disc of either the ESP or Star type, four models of each plastic to choose from. Want the best choice? Get to the tourney early to check in and you will get the best choice.

As for CFR discs....yes, we got 'em. Already in at the pro shop at Dalaiwood are Cryztal Challengers, Stalkers, Buzzz's and Avenger SS's. Coming today will be the Innova load with Glow Champion Destroyers, Wraiths and Monarchs, Gummy Star Rhynos, Rubber Wood Aviars, Ontario Rocs and San Marino Rocs and Echo Destroyers, Bosses and Wraiths. This should be what Innova is sending so don't kill me if it all doesn't show up. So stop by Dalaiwood early or see us at the event for your chance to get some cool plastic.

As for where to be on tourney day (Saturday), you need to be at the course you play first. For Open Men, Open Women, Pro Masters and Advanced you all need to be at NAD for check in and ready to play the first round. For those who have not attended a tourney run by me before, please know that we will run ON TIME with no exceptions. We do this so as to not penalize the vast majority of the people that are on time and have planned their day accordingly. All other divisions need to be at the Kitsap Fairground course to check in on Saturday morning and be ready to play there. If you have any further questions please post them or send me a message and I will get back to you as quickly as I can.

Also, from the Paul office, the campgrounds look awesome and are well worth the 10 bucks a night. Paul is checking today into whether or not more than one tent can be placed at the sight and whether or not the showers will be functioning for the event. He is hoping to get this going so I will keep everyone appraised.

I think that answered all the questions that I see. If I missed something I am sure you will all be MORE than happy to let me know. If you have not signed up yet and are planning to come and play, please get with either me or Paul so that we can be ready for you as we are setting boards and prepping for play right now.

Thanks for everyone's support and get ready for a great weekend!

Later,
Papa

Wow Scott! That is much more than I expected. Thanks, as I always enjoy your tournaments, even if there is no llama. :biggrin2:

[olydiscgolf]

Heading up tomorrow to play a couple rounds. Then home to load the camper and the family and back up on Friday! Getting stoked for this one!

[Tim]

I really like the sound of this final 9, never heard of such a thing before, but I think that's awesome. What's better than watching the top pros play off at the end of a tourney? Playing with the top pros at the end of a tourney.

[BIGARMBRANDON]

Its a unique final nine. The tournament is over after 3 rounds but the 4 top pros are taken to play a skin doubles match. Their partner is chosen by the pro drawing a raffle ticket. The player with the matching raffle ticket gets to play an alternate shot doubles match with the pro. Raffle tickets will be sold but not sure on price. It should be fun.

that sounds like a blast I'd love to do that looks like Im buyin some raffle tickets

[Rolly]

The raffle is randown drawing, for any competitor? or just pro divison? Odd, but sounds like fun.

[cefire]

Its a unique final nine. The tournament is over after 3 rounds but the 4 top pros are taken to play a skin doubles match. Their partner is chosen by the pro drawing a raffle ticket. The player with the matching raffle ticket gets to play an alternate shot doubles match with the pro. Raffle tickets will be sold but not sure on price. It should be fun.

Sounds fun!

[GettinBetter]

Kyle shot a 49 at NAD (blue to long)

[Flingin fireman]

Here is the latest on camping. The campgrounds are open just for disc golfers and friends. You can set up as many tents in your site as you want. The cost is $10.00 per night per site. There are bathrooms with a working shower that will be open all weekend. (They got them fixed just in time). The entrance to the campground is on the east end of the parking lot at Gordon fields at the fairgrounds. Follow the road all the way back and veer to the left at the end. Lots of nice spots. Please pay me for the camping and I will get the money to the parks. I also have a contact number for after hours issues at the park so call me if there is any problems My number is 360-509-0000 yes 4 zeros.
You can call when you get to town if you have trouble finding it and I will meet with you.
See you on the course,
Paul

[papatart]

The raffle is randown drawing, for any competitor? or just pro divison? Odd, but sounds like fun.

For anybody! That's the idea is that anyone in the event can have a chance to play the final nine as the partner of one of the top 4 pros from the event. Seriously, it is a really fun way to do this.....

[WestsoundBT]

Hey all,

A photo site has been set up by myself for sharing some of the images caught during the tournament so far. Both section's rounds at N.A.D. are put up already. I'll likely capture some stuff on Sunday's final feature, yet I'll post an update when they are ready to view (which could be Sun evening, or into the next week)

Sites at:
http://web.mac.com/uwblt/Whiners

[3 Fingers]

Hey all,

A photo site has been set up by myself for sharing some of the images caught during the tournament so far. Both section's rounds at N.A.D. are put up already. I'll likely capture some stuff on Sunday's final feature, yet I'll post an update when they are ready to view (which could be Sun evening, or into the next week)

Sites at:
http://web.mac.com/uwblt/Whiners

great pics WestsoundBT, wish I was there !!

[Nathan]

Great tournament! Ran super smooth. It was lots of fun and really nice weather. Thanks Paul and Scott.

[JR Stengele]

I just wanted to give much thanks to Paul Wright and Scott Papa for providing us all with such a quality tournament. There was so much that went well, it is hard to cover it but I will try. The courses were all well maintained prior to and during the tournanment. The spotters on some of the more difficult holes at the Fairgrounds was a nice touch as well. Each course was extremely challenging in their own ways, but fair. The player packs were extremely generous, with a great selection of discs, a quality T, and the tissues...classic! The Sponsors were a plenty, and offered a lot of swag. Special shot out to Keith from Chainbanger'z, for the prizes for the CTP's, and for being the sponsor of Mr. KC, the Open Champ!!! The trophys were really great, and the prizes from the raffles were VERY generous. I especially liked the raffle for the skins, as getting the chance to play with those pros would have been a chance of a lifetime. Those who didn't win, still got the chance to root for their friends who were given that opportunity.

Whiners in the Woods was a great addition to the WA State Series this year, and feel so privleged to have gotten the opportunity to play with and watch so many great players. Thanks.

[TREX]

The event was great and thx to all who worked hard and had a part in it. I for one whined a couple times :waaah:

Thanks Paul and Scott

[sillybizz]

Awesome tourney, great player packs and every group I was in was filled with positive and fun guys. I look forward to next year!

[mazza]

Awesome tourney, great player packs and every group I was in was filled with positive and fun guys. I look forward to next year!

i know for a fact i was tryin my hardest to be a negitive whinner. scott and paul you guys did a sweet job. and you wifes did a even better job keepin you guys in line. great job on the final nine skins i really like the raffle aspect of it. and big props to scott and darrin for there perfaormance in the skin final nine. and throwing with the ladieson staurday was coo too(a real test of my mental game). oooo and sillybizz is an ASSHOLE(mainly just cuz he got more birds then me in our round) but i still beat him by 10 strokes at the least(sorry had to rub the salt in the wounds thomas)

[WestsoundBT]

http://web.mac.com/uwblt/Whiners/extras_files/cropIMG_6713.jpg

They're up! Final Nine photos from this afternoon. Definitely some good shots in there. That was without a doubt the biggest "herd" that the fairgrounds course has ever seen at one time.
:trophy:

Great job and thanks to Paul Wright, Scott Papa, West Sound Disc Golf Association and all the volunteers!

http://web.mac.com/uwblt/Whiners

B Thornton

[olydiscgolf]

What a great weekend! Both courses were in the best shape that they have ever been in. Great job Paul and Scott and WSDGA. And thanks to Sammy and family for putting us up for the weekend.

[JR Stengele]

What a great weekend! Both courses were in the best shape that they have ever been in. Great job Paul and Scott and WSDGA. And thanks to Sammy and family for putting us up for the weekend.

Nice job to you too Chris for shooting lights out all weekend! Way to go champ. :trophy:

[all2common]

Nice job to you too Chris for shooting lights out all weekend! Way to go champ. :trophy:

Way to go, Gilberts! Bagging *er* bragging rights are yours.

[Rolly]

Great Weekend, Thanks to Scott and Paul for running a great event, Thanks to all the spotters, sponsors and any one who donated time for the event. The courses are in amazing shape, thanks to everyone to did their part.. Players packs were very generous, lots of stuff was given away to everyone who attended not just players. Thats awesome and appreciated.
The skins nine was a great way to end it, although perhaps set aside some cash for overall score (It might keep everyone from laying up on purpose) I liked the fact it can put the spotlight on any player, and how they deal with the pressure/atmosphere is critical. Another aspect of it is that it may test the Pros as well.. Scott, I saw you get nettled from head to toe after your partners drive, causing a near impossible upshot..:headbang:
Congrats to the winners, see you next year whinners.:trophy:

[Kenny B]

Props to the West Sound Disc Golf Association and the countless hours members have spent working on these courses. Thanks Scott and Paul for putting on a successful 2 course tournament. It was a blast!

[GettinBetter]

It was really nice having spotters on some holes. There were more spotters out there than I thought there would be, it's nice to see people step up and volunteer. Best run tournament I've been to this year.

Skins should kick down $100 for best overall score when using this format, or have best drive then alternate shot. I though it was very successful and A LOT of people bought raffle ticket for this. I know I would buy again if this format was used at other events in the future.

[Tim]

Anybody that has good play during a tournament will say that it was a fun tourney. To play poorly all weekend, and still come out saying that it was a blast speaks volumes about how great this event was. Everything ran smoothly and the courses looked great. Fantastic job WSDGA! Scott, I know you weren't in the best mood Sunday morning, but you and Paul did a great job and I hope this tourney becomes a yearly tradition. Also, the camping at the Fairgrounds was sweet! Plenty of space and a great atmosphere, not to mention the huge adjacent field for ridiculous games of 3 frisbee catch.

Of course the highlight of the weekend for me was having one of the lucky tickets to play in the final 9. Fortunately, I had plenty of practice chundering with my rounds earlier in front of my groups, that I was able to keep it up in fine fashion in front of a huge gallery. How was it possible for the trees to get so much bigger and more numerous in the span of a couple hours, anyway? It was a great time though, and I'm glad my partner and I were able to eek out a couple skins before it was over. BTW, Washington has some great new imported talent in addition to KC, keep your eyes on John Anderson, freshly here from South Dakota. Saw some great shots by the pros, for sure, but undoubtedly, the moment everyone will remember is watching Papa unhesitatingly plunge into head high nettles. It looked like he might have even got stung on the lips! That final 9 format was definitely cool, and I'd buy into it again at any tourney that offered it. Just a word of advice to all those prospective raffle winners out there: if there's any chance you might get into the final 9, it's a good idea to hold off on your post-tourney libations until you know for sure. Trust me. :cheers:

Thanks again Scott, Paul, WSDGA, and all the spotters, volunteers, and sponsors that made this such a great weekend. Oh yeah, good job on the weather too.

[Tim]

The skins nine was a great way to end it, although perhaps set aside some cash for overall score (It might keep everyone from laying up on purpose)

Yeah, the laying up thing probably was a little anticlimactic for the gallery, but hey, when there's money on the line, you want to maximize your potential for getting some. And in most cases, having a top 4 pro drive instead of, well, just about anyone else, your chances go up significantly. If it'd been straightforward best shot it would have prevented a bunch of those 1000 rated layups. :D

...or have best drive then alternate shot.

In the interest of keeping the play "real" and maintaining a quick pace/added pressure for the final 9, I think that'd be an excellent solution.

[sillybizz]

I really wanted to get to play the alternative shot with the pros to show off my turbo, oh well. :)

[mazza]

I really wanted to get to play the alternative shot with the pros to show off my turbo, oh well. :)

witch one....the one from saturday or sunday. cuz from what i saw your turbo's were whimpy whimp whimpy when they needed to be hefty hefty hefty. never the less man it was fun throwing with you again.

[Big Bob]

I’ve lived here a year and have meet so many great golfers and people. I play several courses and everywhere I go you feel the family unity between golfers. This tourney was held not just by two great golfers, but two great humans. These two are Ambassadors to the sport and life. Having the pleasure to meet and play with Paul and watch Scott in the final nine was a blast. Keep that format, it was awesome! As long as I can Breath and keep upright “I’ll be Back”

[maccallum]

Congrats to the WSDGA crew! You put on a great event on two great courses. Walla Walla looks forward to the next one.

[Cerrgurry]

Congrats to the WSDGA crew! You put on a great event on two great courses. Walla Walla looks forward to the next one.

I would second that Walla Walla looks forward to the return trip next year.
Thanks again to our guides Jeremy Stitt and Nick Williams at NAD on Friday.
-Kristopher

[Wobbly Bob]

The points earned at Whiners In The Woods have been calculated and updated into the Points spread sheet.

You may view the updated points at the 2010 Washington State Series Website (http://sites.google.com/site/2010washingtonstateseries/home).

[papatart]

Well, as always it has taken a couple of days to relax, reflect and think, "Wow, that was fun!" I just wanted to take a moment to dole out some thoughts on the tourney that has past.

First off, thanks are in order and I am going to say right out front that there is no way I am going to be perfect in thanking all that were involved, our helped support and sponsor the event. This will simply be a ramble of those that I can think of right up front.....

Paul and Pam Wright-Congratulations on your first event as a TD and the more difficult job of being the wife of a first time TD. For those of you that don't know, Pam did an awesome job with securing sponsors (Thanks sponsors! Your donations were awesome!) and putting together the great player packs along with tons of other stuff. I know I heard soooo many comments about the tissue in the pack that I know it was well received. Also thanks to Pam and her crew for the help at NAD for check in and mid round help with the scores.....crucial as it all went perfect!

Thanks to my wife Jeanne-although not directly as involved as she always has been, wrangling our two hellions while I prepare and practice for a tournament is no easy task. Then add on top of that helping prep al the discs and so on and you find that as always she is the reason that so many things are successful.

Rick Bailey, Mike Heberling, Mark and Nathan Pervininch, Kyle and Brent Huber-For your help stringing over 3/4 of a mile of OB line to make the tournament run without one single question as to whether something was in or out. Also, your help the night before the event to get all of the discs ready so that everyone could get any piece of plastic they may need for their bag. As always, the Dalaiwood crew is there to help without question.

The West Sound Disc Golf Association-for maintaining the courses and having them in tourney ready status and beyond. Not only did the club get these tracks into great shape, the non-playing memebers were out in force to help run the event and spot on the tricky holes of Fairgrounds. Talk about keeping the event running smoothly, you were all awesome and bigtime thanks are sent your way!

Thanks to Discraft and Innova for supporting all of disc golf and making it possible for TD's to be able to spice up their events with generous donations. The added schwag for both the payouts and the raffle (how many things were given away at the raffle? I thought it would never end....) was greatly appreciated. Also, big ups and thanks to Ryan Gwillim and Next adventure for the 18 packs of fun that I got to throw out to people during the final nine and during the raffle! Totally unexpected and absolutely appreciated.

Before I get to the final thanks I want to say the only flaws of the weekend were small and basically our fault. The final nine could have started a bit earlier but that was due to missed communication between Paul and myself. This will be better in the future. As for the final nine duffing, this can either be fixed like others have noted with an overall score payout or we can have the pros drive holes 1,3,5,7,9 and the raffle winners drive 2,4,6,8. I may be leaning to the latter as this then always pits pro vs pro and partner vs partner and may keep things very even. It also may give the partners more of a shot to throw that skin winning drive as they will not be tossing against any of the top four pros......food for thought and just a heads up for other td's that are contemplating using this format. That said, I still think it was a HUGE success and I can't believe how many people we had trampling throught the woods to see the play. It was incredible.

On that note, I want to get to the final and most important thank you....and that is to all of the competitors. I have run a lot of tourneys and I must say that this was probably the easiest off all of them to TD as everyone was at their professional best. You folks all came out to compete and have fun and that is exactly what you did. While there may have been whining, I guess you kept it in the woods because there was nothing but pure competitive spirit in the air everywhere I looked. Thank you all for bringing such a positive attitude and experience out to the West side to show the people here how disc golf should really be seen. You were all champs on the weekend and I can't offer enough thanks and congratulations on your play and how you carried yourselves.:trophy::yay::trophy::yay:

Until next time, we'll see you out on the course!

Scott Papa

[Skookum]

I am a huge fan of the "PRO/AM" Skins 9, and I think the alternate tee solution solves the only issue I really had, the pointless strokes after the hole was already won or pushed. If tee off is already set everyone can pick up and move on once the hole has been decided, this will keep the pace fast and fun.

My thoughts that may warrant a little discussion are about where the money for the skin "could" come from. In order to pull this off should a TD find sponsor/s to pony up the Skins money? Would it be acceptable to pull from the entrance fee based prize pool money?

I could see announcing the Skins sponsor before teeing off each hole, or find one sponsor for the whole 9 and billing them in your fliers and other promotions. "I" also see the concept as strong enough you could pull some Skins money from the PRO pool and from the AM pool, but I have a feeling others may not agree?

[papatart]

I am a huge fan of the "PRO/AM" Skins 9, and I think the alternate tee solution solves the only issue I really had, the pointless strokes after the hole was already won or pushed. If tee off is already set everyone can pick up and move on once the hole has been decided, this will keep the pace fast and fun.

My thoughts that may warrant a little discussion are about where the money for the skin "could" come from. In order to pull this off should a TD find sponsor/s to pony up the Skins money? Would it be acceptable to pull from the entrance fee based prize pool money?

I could see announcing the Skins sponsor before teeing off each hole, or find one sponsor for the whole 9 and billing them in your fliers and other promotions. "I" also see the concept as strong enough you could pull some Skins money from the PRO pool and from the AM pool, but I have a feeling others may not agree?

Thanks, glad you liked the format and the possible solution. I agree that it not only saves worthless strokes but speeds things along.

As for where the money comes from, that is where there will be a big discussion. Finding a sponsor to cover the skins or each hole is a great idea. That being said, just by selling the raffle tickets we were able to cover the entire skins match without taking any money from any purse. I think that that was a total win for everyone and was happy it worked out that way.

thanks for the input,
Papa

[Skookum]

Wow great to know about Raffle, I was kind of wondering about the numbers on that.

So I guess if you were holding a fund raising tournament you could get sponsors for the Skins and pocket the money from the raffle for the club/charity.

Or

with less sponsorship involvement and no fund raising goals you could set the skins money aside from the pot then put all the raffle money back into the pot. Sometimes you would come out with more in the pot sometimes less but you could still swing the Skins 9 regardless of how successful you were gathering sponsors.

I like this train of thought...