2010 lilac city open

[Wobbly Bob]

:cheerleader:Online Registration is open for the Lilac City Open.:cheerleader:

:yay:You can register at PDGA Signup (http://www.pdgasignup.com/Qstore/Qstore.cgi?CMD=011&PROD=1270224592).:rockon:

The Flyer/Entry is attached below.:posting:

:cheers:This year will be the best LCO ever, we are anticipating that some of the Pros from the BSF will be competing this year as in past years.

:nono:Don't sign up late, we've filled early the last three years.:waaah:

[Joshua Olmsted]

I'm exited to come play in this event, I've never played in the Spokane area so it'll be good excuse to finally make the trip out there. If there are any Portland golfers interested playing let me know if you're interested in the possibility of carpooling, I get 48mpg but splitting driving costs would be extra nice.

P.S. I will still be volunteering for the first BSF weekend. Can't miss out on all the fun.

[GettinBetter]

I'll be there, I dont see me moving up from 22nd on the BSF waitlist.

[ScottW]

Will the LCO be capped at 144 (or more?) players like years past?

[Gordy #21004]

Will the LCO be capped at 144 (or more?) players like years past?

Like years past if LCO exceeds this number, somethings got to give. With a little nudge I think BOB may opt for an exibition 9 or 10 to follow regulation play since daylight will be so plentiful.......With registration just underway there are already 7 states represented. Interesting.:shocked:

[ScottW]

Thanks Gordy. I forgot to do the math for how many players Jumaji could feasibly hold for 1 round.

[Wobbly Bob]

The last two year the LCO was capped at 144 and both years over 160 people got to compete. :seeya:

This year the tournament cap is 180 and there is no wiggle room for more competitors. :shocked:

As always there will be two pools for the LCO.

The "A" Pool will start Saturday morning at Downriver DGC. This pool will be comprised of the following divisions.

MPO
FPO
MPM
MPG
MA1


The "B" Pool will start Saturday at Highbridge DGC. This pool will contain all of the remaining divisions.

After the first round the players will have until 2:00 pm to swap courses where they will play their second round.

BBQ burgers, BBQ dogs, chips, potato salad and drinks will be available at Downriver during the break.

As soon as the last cards come in on Saturday afternoon we will be heading out to Four Mound DGR :chug: :chug: :chug: where the standings and hole assignments for Sunday will be posted.

After the third round on Sunday there may be some type of Exhibition Competition like Skins or ????

The Instant Win CTP Qualifier will also be held after the third round, if you hit an Ace while trying to qualify for the Toss-Off at the Finals we'll give you a basket :trophy: (one per tournament) before you go home that day.

Special Thanks to our food sponsor again this year. :chug: We will have beverages and dinner provided on Sunday after the rounds. :cheers:

[Wobbly Bob]

:yay:Sponsorship has allowed the Lilac City Open to increase the Pro Purse from the $500 added cash minimum to $1000 added cash.:yay:

:dancing:The Top Four Open players will also be competing in a '10' Hole Skins Competition after tournament play is concluded.:dancing:

:chinscratch: Each SKIN will be worth $50 :shooting:

[Rideout]

That is absolutely fantastic. Well done!!!

I’m really looking forward to golfing in Spokane again; it’s been a couple years.

[Joshua Olmsted]

I'll bump my earlier statement about looking for anyone from the Portland area who might be interested in carpool, I can drive or follow with any other group, with my current financial situation it would be tough to play in Spokane without being able to split up gas costs a bit.

[Stimpi]

:dancing:The Top Four Open players will also be competing in a '10' Hole Skins Competition after tournament play is concluded.:dancing:

:chinscratch: Each SKIN will be worth $50 :shooting:

Is that skins round only available to OPEN players, or will the finals include the top 4 scoring players? (I just like seeing old men like Marty, or Hot Rods like Jesse, try for skins)

[Wobbly Bob]

Is that skins round only available to OPEN players, or will the finals include the top 4 scoring players? (I just like seeing old men like Marty, or Hot Rods like Jesse, try for skins)

The SKINS will be comprised of the Top 4 Open players this year.

[Yoduh]

The SKINS will be comprised of the Top 4 Open players this year.

Not the biggest fan of the skins.. In my opinion you suck payout (In this case it's $500) away from the whole entire pro division and give it to the top 4 players..(WHO WERE ALREADY GOING TO TAKE THE MOST ANYWAY) I guess this is a good strategy if you only want the top 4 to come back next year but it seems to me that having a nice fat payout for the whole entire top 45% is what makes the pro players want to come back.. If I'm driving from Seattle and I know if I take last cash and making double my entry than to me it's completely worth the risk if funds are low.. If I know the only way to make anything is to place top 4 than I have less of a chance of going.. which means an overall smaller field for pros and an overall smaller payout which is the opposite of what organizers like Bob wants.
On the other hand I love the top 4 playing off for win, to me it allows the drama at the end of tourney to unfold in front of the crowd and its the stuff that brings back the crowds. I have heard people taking about past DRO's and LCO's where somebody hit a clutch putt or threw a clutch drive and took the tourney because of it. Those kinds of story's stick in people's minds forever.. not who took 3 skins by getting a birdie. To me skins is a let down from the competition which if I'm not mistaken is the reason why everybody is showing up in the first place. Have a big skins tourney and see if you get 180 people to show up.. :bricks:
I am not wishing to be critical of Bob's efforts here, Stimpi, the Windy RO and Sir Jubby Jubness have all ran their finals this way, this year. It just seems like a plague that is taking away from our game. There is little or no pressure. People didn't drive from Eugene Or. to win 5 skins.. THEY CAME HERE TO WIN A TOURNAMENT! The most important thing is the win. Allow the crowds to see these players battle it out for the TITLE!

[Yoduh]

BTW, Thanks for all TD's efforts in running tourneys and pulling in a great deal of sponsorship. It is MUCH appreciated

[Tim]

Not the biggest fan of the skins.. In my opinion you suck payout (In this case it's $500) away from the whole entire pro division and give it to the top 4 players..(WHO WERE ALREADY GOING TO TAKE THE MOST ANYWAY) I guess this is a good strategy if you only want the top 4 to come back next year but it seems to me that having a nice fat payout for the whole entire top 45% is what makes the pro players want to come back.. If I'm driving from Seattle and I know if I take last cash and making double my entry than to me it's completely worth the risk if funds are low.. If I know the only way to make anything is to place top 4 than I have less of a chance of going.. which means an overall smaller field for pros and an overall smaller payout which is the opposite of what organizers like Bob wants.
On the other hand I love the top 4 playing off for win, to me it allows the drama at the end of tourney to unfold in front of the crowd and its the stuff that brings back the crowds. I have heard people taking about past DRO's and LCO's where somebody hit a clutch putt or threw a clutch drive and took the tourney because of it. Those kinds of story's stick in people's minds forever.. not who took 3 skins by getting a birdie. To me skins is a let down from the competition which if I'm not mistaken is the reason why everybody is showing up in the first place. Have a big skins tourney and see if you get 180 people to show up.. :bricks:
I am not wishing to be critical of Bob's efforts here, Stimpi, the Windy RO and Sir Jubby Jubness have all ran their finals this way, this year. It just seems like a plague that is taking away from our game. There is little or no pressure. People didn't drive from Eugene Or. to win 5 skins.. THEY CAME HERE TO WIN A TOURNAMENT! The most important thing is the win. Allow the crowds to see these players battle it out for the TITLE!

I'd say those are fair points, but from the other side of things (particularly the spectators), I think it's cool to watch the top players go at each hole with nothing to lose. In regular tourney play, there's always the risk/reward, and most often, the players will be playing it safe. You still get to see some good golf being played for sure, but it's not always the most exciting. Skins on the other hand, the players get to show off a bit and not have to worry too much about the consequences if their ballsy shots don't pay off. Yeah, people might not remember who won how many skins, but you can be sure people still talk about Feldberg's birdie on 16 at SeaTac, his overdrive on 17 from last year, Dion's park job/ace run on the same hole, and his sportsmanship after Ming's huge birdie on 7 this year.

The payout thing for those that don't make the cut is a legitimate gripe I suppose, but I guess it all comes down to different strokes for different folks.

[DMajor]

What's the total capacity for the LCO?

[DMajor]

Not the biggest fan of the skins.. In my opinion you suck payout (In this case it's $500) away from the whole entire pro division and give it to the top 4 players..(WHO WERE ALREADY GOING TO TAKE THE MOST ANYWAY) I guess this is a good strategy if you only want the top 4 to come back next year but it seems to me that having a nice fat payout for the whole entire top 45% is what makes the pro players want to come back.. If I'm driving from Seattle and I know if I take last cash and making double my entry than to me it's completely worth the risk if funds are low.. If I know the only way to make anything is to place top 4 than I have less of a chance of going.. which means an overall smaller field for pros and an overall smaller payout which is the opposite of what organizers like Bob wants.
On the other hand I love the top 4 playing off for win, to me it allows the drama at the end of tourney to unfold in front of the crowd and its the stuff that brings back the crowds. I have heard people taking about past DRO's and LCO's where somebody hit a clutch putt or threw a clutch drive and took the tourney because of it. Those kinds of story's stick in people's minds forever.. not who took 3 skins by getting a birdie. To me skins is a let down from the competition which if I'm not mistaken is the reason why everybody is showing up in the first place. Have a big skins tourney and see if you get 180 people to show up.. :bricks:
I am not wishing to be critical of Bob's efforts here, Stimpi, the Windy RO and Sir Jubby Jubness have all ran their finals this way, this year. It just seems like a plague that is taking away from our game. There is little or no pressure. People didn't drive from Eugene Or. to win 5 skins.. THEY CAME HERE TO WIN A TOURNAMENT! The most important thing is the win. Allow the crowds to see these players battle it out for the TITLE!

I agree with the above statement. Skins are fun to watch but I would much rather see the whole tournament on the line. Ming's skins performance at the CSI was memorable for sure but a come from behind win by Kyle Crabtree or even a run at a win would have been more interesting, entertaining and memorable to me.

The best players get to be the best by performing well under tournament pressure in a tournament format not because they are great skins players.

My biggest motivation to stick around and watch the top players is to learn from them and I think there is alot more to learn from the last nine holes of a tournament then there is from nine skins holes. It's fun to see those guys throw huge shots but it's even more fun when there is a title and a whole weekend on the line.

[ScottW]

Skins is fun to watch in a way but overall I think I agree with Jeremy's points most. It makes it even more fun overall for me to watch if every shot counts. I like the idea of a final 9 (or 10 in this case) but not the biggest fan of the skins format. No offense to Bob or any other TD who has done this either, just my 2 cents.

[LJ Jubner]

My idea behind the skins is
1st I start the skins not the event
2nd it's up to players/fans if the purse goes up or not.

Jeremy makes some good points about the weekend and such My point was I got tired of players playing not to lose instead of to win. I believe more players will go for it "if it's a skins situation' then not (09 CSI skins paid out almost as much as first palce did) and the sportsmanship aspect is also attractive. Kinda like Tin Cup No one remembers who won but everyone remembers the guy who put 10 in the water on the last hole. I agree it should be the hottest players even if it's an AM II.

Skins equals Fireworks

[Yoduh]

My idea behind the skins is
1st I start the skins not the event
2nd it's up to players/fans if the purse goes up or not.
What does this Juberish mean? Are you channeling Herm?
Thats cool but throw $200 at the pro's purse and you'd get same idea.. Hope we aren't playing the final 10 we played last year at the City Cup.. everybody that played it last year said it was a boring course. Super hard to birdie (6 or 7 of the holes are impossible par 3 1/2s) most of the holes, but there is a really cool island shot and a cool top of the world shot.

[Yoduh]

Think hole 17 90 feet longer.. 6 or 7 holes.

[Yoduh]

at seatac.. with an super tough route off of a tee-pad that is bumpy, not level, and to grippy (astro turf)

[Wobbly Bob]

Not the biggest fan of the skins.. In my opinion you suck payout (In this case it's $500) away from the whole entire pro division and give it to the top 4 players..(WHO WERE ALREADY GOING TO TAKE THE MOST ANYWAY) I guess this is a good strategy if you only want the top 4 to come back next year but it seems to me that having a nice fat payout for the whole entire top 45% is what makes the pro players want to come back.. If I'm driving from Seattle and I know if I take last cash and making double my entry than to me it's completely worth the risk if funds are low.. If I know the only way to make anything is to place top 4 than I have less of a chance of going.. which means an overall smaller field for pros and an overall smaller payout which is the opposite of what organizers like Bob wants.
On the other hand I love the top 4 playing off for win, to me it allows the drama at the end of tourney to unfold in front of the crowd and its the stuff that brings back the crowds. I have heard people taking about past DRO's and LCO's where somebody hit a clutch putt or threw a clutch drive and took the tourney because of it. Those kinds of story's stick in people's minds forever.. not who took 3 skins by getting a birdie. To me skins is a let down from the competition which if I'm not mistaken is the reason why everybody is showing up in the first place. Have a big skins tourney and see if you get 180 people to show up.. :bricks:
I am not wishing to be critical of Bob's efforts here, Stimpi, the Windy RO and Sir Jubby Jubness have all ran their finals this way, this year. It just seems like a plague that is taking away from our game. There is little or no pressure. People didn't drive from Eugene Or. to win 5 skins.. THEY CAME HERE TO WIN A TOURNAMENT! The most important thing is the win. Allow the crowds to see these players battle it out for the TITLE!

Jeremy, I regret that you didn't give me your input earlier.:(

I've posted the skins round already and at this point I won't change this year's format.:nono:

The LCO was the largest paying B Tier in Washington state last year:cheerleader: and who knows, it may be this year.:rockon:

My suggestion to you would be to place in the Top 4:shooting: and then run with the big dogs.:evilgrin:

And you don't even have to travel.:yay:

Remember, there's no whining in disc golf!:nono:

[LJ Jubner]

Jeremy, You forgot the raffle/doubles format. Which I think is also good idea. Talk about pairing the common golfer and at least the local elite. That sure give "the Winner's" a real taste of pressure. Brilliant!

If I know the only way to make anything is to place top 4 than I have less of a chance of going.. which means an overall smaller field for pros and an overall smaller payout which is the opposite of what organizers like Bob wants.!

Even though you have not thrown a disc, you can tell where your going to finish 3-6 weeks beforehand. Amazing!

On the other hand I love the top 4 playing off for win, to me it allows the drama at the end of tourney to unfold in front of the crowd and its the stuff that brings back the crowds. I have heard people taking about past DRO's and LCO's where somebody hit a clutch putt or threw a clutch drive and took the tourney because of it. Those kinds of story's stick in people's minds forever.. not who took 3 skins by getting a birdie. To me skins is a let down from the competition which if I'm not mistaken is the reason why everybody is showing up in the first place. Have a big skins tourney and see if you get 180 people to show up.. !

1st It depends how the event was advertised. Includes Final 9 or as exhibition skins.
2nd. Is' nt 54 holes enough to measure yourselves against one another. Do you really need the extra 9?

Maybe a cut after 36 on Sat. or 54 Pro's butt crack early on Sun then cut for 9 in the afternoon. This way the Open players can get on the road home earlier

It just seems like a plague that is taking away from our game. There is little or no pressure. People didn't drive from Eugene Or. to win 5 skins.. THEY CAME HERE TO WIN A TOURNAMENT! The most important thing is the win. Allow the crowds to see these players battle it out for the TITLE!

This is an interesting statement. I am not sure if I agree about the "no pressure aspect of skins".The same argument could be made 4th place pays $200 and I have the chance to make more by winning skins.

It would be nice if past 9 participants were able to shed some light on their own personal experiences.
Not just if you like them or not?
but
Do you approach them differently?
Why would you take one more seriously then the other?
Are you more or less likely to experiment with shots in either format?
Are you more or less likely to be conservative with shots in either format?

Nate? Chandler? Dion? There are lots more, please respond.

[LJ Jubner]

OK thread is now offically hijacked.

[Stimpi]

I don't know that I would go around calling $1000 added cash to a B tier "suck payout" Jeremy. As far as "sucking" it out of the Pro Pool is a bit presumptuous. Not all the money in a tournament is aimed at the Pros. It takes a lot of work,begging, stealing, and whatnot to raise $1000 extra dough, and even more to get $1500, when only $500 is required. What he does with it, so far, has made the LCO the best event in the state, by far, for all divisions. IF he wants to throw some of HIS hard-earned cash at the top players, he should be allowed to, without someone accusing him of taking money out of their pocket.
Keep running events just the way you do, Wob. You're doing fine.

Not the biggest fan of the skins.. In my opinion you suck payout (In this case it's $500) away from the whole entire pro division and give it to the top 4 players..(WHO WERE ALREADY GOING TO TAKE THE MOST ANYWAY) I guess this is a good strategy if you only want the top 4 to come back next year but it seems to me that having a nice fat payout for the whole entire top 45% is what makes the pro players want to come back.. If I'm driving from Seattle and I know if I take last cash and making double my entry than to me it's completely worth the risk if funds are low.. If I know the only way to make anything is to place top 4 than I have less of a chance of going.. which means an overall smaller field for pros and an overall smaller payout which is the opposite of what organizers like Bob wants.
On the other hand I love the top 4 playing off for win, to me it allows the drama at the end of tourney to unfold in front of the crowd and its the stuff that brings back the crowds. I have heard people taking about past DRO's and LCO's where somebody hit a clutch putt or threw a clutch drive and took the tourney because of it. Those kinds of story's stick in people's minds forever.. not who took 3 skins by getting a birdie. To me skins is a let down from the competition which if I'm not mistaken is the reason why everybody is showing up in the first place. Have a big skins tourney and see if you get 180 people to show up.. :bricks:
I am not wishing to be critical of Bob's efforts here, Stimpi, the Windy RO and Sir Jubby Jubness have all ran their finals this way, this year. It just seems like a plague that is taking away from our game. There is little or no pressure. People didn't drive from Eugene Or. to win 5 skins.. THEY CAME HERE TO WIN A TOURNAMENT! The most important thing is the win. Allow the crowds to see these players battle it out for the TITLE!

[Yoduh]

No Stimp, Not what I said at all. (I NEVER BROUGHT UP AMS, DON'T KNOW WHY YOU DID??) Back on subject of the pro purse. Taking 1/3 of the PRO payout and giving it to the top four is sucking the payout out of the pro divisions. I said nothing about how well the ams are treated or did I accuse him of taking money out of someone's pocket. What I said was $1500 added is a huge chunk that should be spread to the field so that all that plays well enough to cash sees the rewards of Bob's hard work. If you go to such an event as a pro and place last cash and make double your money (which consequently won't pay for your trip) golfers everywhere see that on the internet and are STOKED. What happens the following year is 10 more pros decide to show up and the payout gets even bigger because they all want a piece of the action. If you take 33%($500) of the purse for the top 4.. this is based on 32 golfers (the amount of Pros from last years LCO) paying out the 45% scale from the pdga. Than 62% of the purse goes to the top 4 golfers and the remaining 38% goes to the remaining 9 golfers. The split that the PDGA supplies already properly rewards the top golfers! It doesn't makes sense (occured at WRO) that the third place golfer makes more money than the first place golfer, in 9 holes.. The regular 54 hole event was out weighed by 9 holes that anybody staring at the pdga page is never gonna know about. If that extra cash was on the page, that may bring more players which pays more the next year.
I have spoken with Ed Doppelmayr and Wayne Miller ( i also heard big Mike agrees from Wayne) and they have both agreed with me. I GREATLY APPRECIATE your attitude Bob. I know how much work you put in and how its sometimes hard to take criticism about that work, but this isn't directed at you as much as it is tournaments in general and the growth of the sport. I want to see 45 pros at each event and tournaments that end in DRAMA! It seems like larger payouts such as the one you provide will go a long way to providing such growth, Thanks

[KCrabtree]

My suggestion to you would be to place in the Top 4:shooting: and then run with the big dogs.:evilgrin:

Well put!

[Joshua Olmsted]

Wow, it feels like people aren't fully reading (or perhaps understanding the meaning) of Yoduh's post. Although as a spectator I could care less about watching a final 9 or a skins format. The point is that in a final 9 format the top 4 are playing simply for the top 4 cashing spots, rather than reserving even more money for the same top 4. I honestly would like to hear the opinion not just of the top players but some other mid level pro players. I'd agree that if you want to lure as many pros (rather than just the top 5-10) you would be better of just putting that $500 into the general pro purse. It also isn't an uninformed statement to assume the most likely individuals to occupy the top spots, a 960 player could play 3 incredible rounds and still lose to some just moderately good golf from a 1000 rated player.

[Yoduh]

Well put!

What a surprise.. a 1000 rated pro wants more money from people in his division:slapface::slapface: I wouldn't care if I won the whole thing and all the skins, I still don't think it's the best for the game but then again I'm not very selfish:angel:

[Yoduh]

Well put!

What a surprise.. a 1000 rated pro wants more money from people in his division:slapface::slapface: I wouldn't care if I won the whole thing and all the skins, I still don't think it's the best for the game but then again I'm not very selfish:angel:

[Gordy #21004]

I guess its just not enough for BSF and the PDGA to drop a Super Tour on Bob's head in mid March. I say 'Great job, Bob' for giving us timely information on what is going to happen at your tourny. By the looks of it the six pros that are currently signed up stand a pretty good chance of getting a great return on investment. If only no one else signs up!.....Bob has set the standard for INWS for the last 5 years and hosts the Mainstay Event for WSS for the last 4 so count on LCO to be a BIG date on your calander. ps. that Whiner in the Woods doubles Skins arrangement sounds like the latest Jub Scam if i ever heard one!
:cool2:

[Yoduh]

[QUOTE=Gordy #21004;64682]I guess its just not enough for BSF and the PDGA to drop a Super Tour on Bob's head in mid March.[QUOTE] What are you talking about here Gordy? I just finished speaking with Big Mike in person and he agrees with my point as well, for sure. He said he tried to give away his spot in the final nine because skins isn't golf and that whole field should share in the fruits of the TD's labor's.

[DMajor]

What's the total capacity for the LCO?

Anybody?

[sillybizz]

Remember, there's no whining in disc golf!

I beg to differ, in fact there is a tournament this weekend I am playing in called "whiners in the woods". :nahnah:

[JR Stengele]

I beg to differ, in fact there is a tournament this weekend I am playing in called "whiners in the woods". :nahnah:

Helpful. :shooting: :posting:

[General Scales]

Anybody?

180. Moved up from last years cap of 144.

[DMajor]

180. Moved up from last years cap of 144.

Thanks

[Big Bob]

anybody from the westside want to road trip to the tourney. Planning on camping, or split cost hotel. Just checking on options! 209-606-3046

[Wobbly Bob]

A special thanks to Ely Johnson :dancing:, Odom Distributors :yay:, World Class Beverages :chug: and New Belgium Brewing :cheers: for their sponsorship of the LCO this year. I can hardly wait to see what type of beer they provide us.

[Ode]

will advanced be playing the same course as the open division? will intermediate? i guess im asking how the pools will be divided

[Wobbly Bob]

As always there will be two pools for the LCO.

The "A" Pool will start Saturday morning at Downriver DGC. This pool will be comprised of the following divisions.

MPO
FPO
MPM
MPG
MA1


The "B" Pool will start Saturday at Highbridge DGC. This pool will contain all of the remaining divisions.


I hope this helps.

[BIGARMBRANDON]

Just gotta say this is one of my favorite tournaments it sucks that it is the same weekend as the BSF but I didn't even try to get in to BSF so I could play this one Gordy and BOB just do what you do I love this tourney and the city cup I try to play as many spokane tourneys as I am available for

[Wobbly Bob]

Just gotta say this is one of my favorite tournaments it sucks that it is the same weekend as the BSF but I didn't even try to get in to BSF so I could play this one Gordy and BOB just do what you do I love this tourney and the city cup I try to play as many spokane tourneys as I am available for

I went and checked the roster for BSF and I only noticed about 10 names of people who have played the LCO in past years. :yay:

I thought that there would be many more LCO players going to BSF.

City Cup is alive and well this year and will hide hide behind the Washington State Series Championships name. Names of division winners will be engraved on the Spokane City Cup as usual and there may even be an extra award.

[Gordy #21004]

The LCO and its Director are proud to announce the participation of veteran top- tier pro, Champion, and all around great guy Kyle Crabtree. Check KC's performance against the field at the 2007 KC Wide Open. How appropriate! ( that is , KC@KC).:biggrin2:

[ScottW]

Registration went in the mail today - finally! I am looking forward to see if I can actually post some rounds at or above my player rating for once this year:shocked:

[DMajor]

Since there are not enough pros to fill up the BSF I get to reverse sandbag at the fling and still make it over for the Lilac the next weekend. 4 tournament rounds at Milo followed by a very short work week and then off to Spokane for two fun courses and a finale at my favorite course to date.

What more could you ask for?

[Gordy #21004]

Bob received 15 more online confirmations Tuesday morning but hasn't had time to post them up here; he broke the window in his wife's car backing up into the utility boxes of my pickup going to get me some beer when I was over at his house Monday night to finalize our scorecards for Jumanji and the Porcupine 13. He's been busy out getting bids for the insurance co. and will probably never drive that car again. ( I said water would be fine but they insisted that Bob get beer and Treva even kicked down the $) My bad for parking in the street and across their driveway:but hey, it was already 10 pm when I got there, who's goin out again? Sorry. Gordy ....Can we withdraw from the tournament and get our money back?:D:D:rolleyes2::rolleyes2:

[Wobbly Bob]

This is the PDGA's policy concerning withdrawals. The LCO will be following this policy.


1.3. Withdraws and Refunds
A. A player may officially withdraw only
by contacting the Tournament Director.
B. Players must email or phone their
withdrawals to the Tournament Director
only at the contact information posted.
C. Discussions with persons other
than the Tournament Director, including
other tournament staff, shall not be
considered official.
D. No refunds will be issued after the
7th day prior (5/29/10) to the start of the event, but
the player shall be sent a player’s package if
one was provided to event competitors.
E. Withdrawals made before the 7th (5/22/10 thru 5/28/10) day
prior to the start of the event shall receive
a 50% refund.
F. Withdrawals made 14 (5/21/10) days prior to the
start of the event shall be refunded 100 %,
less postage and handling, which shall not
exceed 10% of the entry fee.
G. These criteria may be relaxed at the
discretion of the Tournament Director.

Just a note, there are still 64 slots left in the LCO but only 29 of them are in the A Pool (all Pros and Adv. Men) once those spots are filled the Pool will be closed.

[Gordy #21004]

The number of spots in the A Pool for the LCO is shrinking fast. In spite of a small number of requests to have Bob 'hold' spots to be paid for on the morning of the event, Bob insists that spots can only be secured by timely pre-registration only. This will insure that everyone has a fair and equal chance to get in. You could call it 'first come, first serve'. For Bob to begin making private arrangements on the side would now only cause confusion, misunderstanding, delay, and most importantly, ill will. ie. 'why didn't you do that for me?' ...To insure your spot get your on-line registration in or get your check in the mail ASAP. Please make sure you include your PDGA #, the correct payment amount and usable contact info....If it becomes necessary to start a waiting list Bob will announce that promptly. Again, first come, first serve is how that will work. Anyone who pre-registers for the tournament and does not get in will receive a 100% refund. Thank you for your support. Gordy and Bob.:posting:

[mazza]

hey so my ride fell thru. so i am gonna need to ride with some one from the west side over to the lco. if someone has room and is willing to let me call me at 253-426-2719. becuz i'm up in near port angeles and don't have have a internet access. i'm using my ipod on someones open wireless to put this message up.....PLZ IF U HAVE ROOM AND R GOING TO LCO PLZ CALL ME...... so i just got back home. so send me a pm if u got room thanks

[prospect]

A special thanks to Ely Johnson :dancing:, Odom Distributors :yay:, World Class Beverages :chug: and New Belgium Brewing :cheers: for their sponsorship of the LCO this year. I can hardly wait to see what type of beer they provide us.

As long as it says "beer" on the label I'm happy!!! :chug: Thanks for all your hard work Bob!!! I'm stoked for this weekend!! :cheers:

-And a BIG thanks to the work crew that re-did the tee box on 18 at High Bridge!!

[Gordy #21004]

As of 8:00 am this morning Bob is still waiting to get his on-line registrations from over the long weekend. This incoming batch of regis will eat into the remaining 16 spots still available in the "A" Pool. All of the online regis are time-stamped so if it becomes necessary to start a waiting list those time stamps will dictate who is on top of the list and who is further down. As we stated before, if you find yourself on the waiting list and do not get into the tournament, you will receive a 100% refund. Gordy and Bob.:chinscratch:

[Gordy #21004]

With each passing season there continues to be less and less barbed wire at Four Mound; substantially so this year. The remaining wire is pre-designated by the Director as a casual obstacle. Relief from a casual obstacle is as follows:... up to five meters on the line-of-play no nearer the hole, no penalty. These additional casual obstacles are also pre-designated by the Director: Rattlesnake, hornets nest and anthill. Same relief provided, no penalty.:cop:

[Gordy #21004]

A BIG thanks to Deron V.S. for getting the rotary mower back in service. That gave me the whole weekend to do some bigtime mowing done. It will definitely help with speed-of-play. I recommend you throw for the mowed part...... The quailbrush is about four feet high and very full. Unless you have a good overhand I'd avoid it. 3-minuter rule will be emphasized.:angry:

[Yoduh]

No reason to have any one pool fill. Just got back from the fling and divisions were playing 2 seperate courses at one time and then swapping. Could easily split a division and reshuffle for Jumanji without having to lock anyone out:chinscratch: It seems really easy to accomplish especially knowing that the 2 city courses are so close to one another that people could easily get dropped off and find rides.
The Fling also provided a %50 refund to all who couldn't make it but the LCO is much larger and more complicated so they have to keep your money.:cool2:

[Dixon011001]

What are the start times on Saturday and Sunday ?

[DMajor]

Will highbridge be in the tournament layout on Friday and is it marked well enough to follow?

Thanks

[olydiscgolf]

12 hour day today, probably another one tomorrow, but I'll be damned if Im not on the road Thursday!!!!

Can't wait to play this one again!

[Parks]

No reason to have any one pool fill. Just got back from the fling and divisions were playing 2 seperate courses at one time and then swapping. Could easily split a division and reshuffle for Jumanji without having to lock anyone out:chinscratch:

I think it has to do with the fact that on Sunday most divisions will be playing the 27 hole Jumanji course, which would put a hard cap of 135 players total on those divisions if 5 players are on each hole.

By the count on the PDGA page which is probably not up to date, there are 118 players in the Advanced and Open divisions, leaving 17 slots available.

No amount of "reshuffling" would fix this unless some Advanced divisions were reshuffled play the Porcupine course instead. They may object to this since its not listed that way on the flyer. The other way to allow more than that would be to have 6 players on some holes or a staggered start, but those each have their own inherent challenges.

Also, note that there are only 19 total slots left, so having only 17 slots left for those divisions is not a big deal at all. Its unlikely to affect anyone, since only two Int/Rec/Junior people need to sign up for it not to matter.

The Fling also provided a %50 refund to all who couldn't make it but the LCO is much larger and more complicated so they have to keep your money.:cool2:

My personal belief is that any tournament that fills should provide full refunds (minus postage or whatever) as long as the refunded spot gets filled.

That being said, if I was a TD and wasn't %100 sure that my event would fill then I would go by the PDGA guidelines until I had a full field show up on the first day.

[mazza]

12 hour day today, probably another one tomorrow, but I'll be damned if Im not on the road Thursday!!!!

Can't wait to play this one again!

hey chris u got room in ur ride?? let me know

[Wobbly Bob]

What are the start times on Saturday and Sunday ?

Saturday players meeting at 8:30 am.

Sunday players meeting at 8:00 am.

[Wobbly Bob]

The A Pool has an alternate list of three people already and there are only 17 B Pool spots left.

Here's what I can set in concrete about the Pools.

The A Pool will consist of all Pro divisions and the Adv Men's division.
A Pool will start at Downriver on Saturday.
A Pool will play Highbridge Saturday afternoon.
A Pool will play Jumanji on Sunday morning.

The B Pool will be made up of the Int Men, Rec Men Junior Boys and if there is room for them the three Am women's divisions.
B Pool will start at Highbridge on Saturday.
B Pool will play Downriver Saturday afternoon.
B Pool will play Porcupine on Sunday morning.

The C Pool will be made up of the Adv Masters, Adv Grand Masters and if there is no room for them in the B Pool the three am women's divisions.
C Pool will start at Highbridge on Saturday.
C Pool will play Downriver Saturday afternoon.
C Pool will play Jumanji on Sunday morning.

As registrations come in I will firm up the decision of which Pool the three Am women's divisions will be in.

[ChUcK]

Will there be a surprise smoking ban announced during the players' meeting, or will forethought be employed this year?

[Deron#31677]

Will there be a surprise smoking ban announced during the players' meeting, or will forethought be employed this year?

I don't think there will be a ban as it is a little wet here. Just need people to pick up after themselfs, which 99% do.:)

[LJ Jubner]

Will there be a surprise smoking ban announced during the players' meeting, or will forethought be employed this year?

Wow chUck, that was aggressive!

Insurance vs Fire
Fire wins every time! (no matter how much insurance you have.)

How hot do you think it would need to get before a fire effected the BPA lineS across the bottom of the course?

Fire is a non discriminating burner it won't stop at the property line.

At least it won't be hotter then the sun this weekend.

[Tim]

I don't think Chuck has any issue with the ban itself, but rather knowing ahead of time that there would be such a ban. As a former smoker myself, I could see how an unexpected notification of no smoking for the next 4 hours (particularly in tourney stress) could make a lot of people upset.

[Stimpi]

I would assume Gordy will stick to his usual routine, butts on a bench when you have a lit butt, no matter how wet it is. He's had one "out-of-control" fire out there and I don't think he relishes the idea of another.
Plus, we private course owners get tired of finding butts on our courses. Apparently many cigarette smokers automatically stomp out their butts wherever they finish them. Until ALL smokers act responsibly they are going to get picked on. I don't see that happening any time soon.

[mazza]

so as of this point in the week i am lookin to catch a ride with someone heading over to the l.c.o. but time is running out so if need be i can take a greyhound over there. so if that happens i need to ask if someone would be able to maybe pick me up at the station over there. maybe even let me ride there couch for the weekend( or hook up with some west siders and camp with them). it just sucks that after i pay to play my ride said he can not get the time off from work. but hey where there is the will there is a way right??? some one hit me up and let me if i have option. hell if i have to i'll sleep on a rock at the course but i will be there to play......muahahahaha(yes i have more then a few screws missing not just loose)

[Gordy #21004]

Stimpi has it just about right. My back yard is not an ashtray, fire hazard or not. Surprise ban? We've employed various restrictions under varying circumstances for about seven years now. ....The trouble with going soft on these standards is that when you really need them its a 'surprise'. For this LCO; do it on the bench, finish up, then go play. NOTHING on the ground.:cop:

[Yoduh]

Will highbridge be in the tournament layout on Friday and is it marked well enough to follow?

Thanks

High Bridge is set up in its tourney layout right now.. Hole 13 is now a very difficult hole.. walk forward and look to the right to see the pin.. 16 is more difficult, walk forward to the left to see the pin. After hole 4 walk towards the grass and and diaganoly across the grass and cross the road.. look for a mangy shag carpet teepad.. (here's a tip:don't blow out your knee on this carpet, also a tip for any carpet you play this weekend). Hole 6 is back and right towards the creek. There is no real route for this hole (poke and pray:slapface: as this hole was designed for the old teepad over the road that we can't use anymore)and somebody painted the top of the yellow rim white (which matches the sand perfectly of the beach we aren't supposed to be playing on). Bob said he'd put a pink ribbon on top of the cage which should do the trick on game day but not sure when he'll get it up

[Gordy #21004]

Go for it. Keep me in the loop.:yay:

[Yoduh]

After that it's smooth sailing!!:biggrin2: Glad to see your not probagging it this weekend, good luck!

[Lyounger]

Will there be a surprise smoking ban announced during the players' meeting, or will forethought be employed this year?

How about a smoking ban DURING the players meeting?? :-):bowing:
That sure would help my furocious sinuses!!!

[Tim]

Stimpi has it just about right. My back yard is not an ashtray, fire hazard or not. Surprise ban? We've employed various restrictions under varying circumstances for about seven years now. ....The trouble with going soft on these standards is that when you really need them its a 'surprise'. For this LCO; do it on the bench, finish up, then go play. NOTHING on the ground.:cop:

That's all well and good for people who know what to expect, but if someone's playing out there for the first time, I think it's fair that they know well ahead of time. Also, I could be mistaken, but I thought I heard that there was no smoking period last year.

And yeah, in addition to the fire hazard thing, I hear you guys about the cigarette butts. I can't stand seeing them on the ground either, be it public or private property.

[mazza]

I hear you guys about the cigarette butts. I can't stand seeing them on the ground either, be it public or private property.

this is why i use one of the pockets on my bag.....

[DMajor]

The no smoking on the course rule is one of the reasons Four Mounds is the best tournament course in the state.

[olydiscgolf]

Go for it. Keep me in the loop.:yay:

Thanks Gordy!!! We appreciate your hospitality and take the best care of your place as we can!! We will probably see you for dinner on Friday too!

Those that don't know.... Gordy's Szechwan Cafe is YUMMY!!!

[Parks]

Hole 6 is back and right towards the creek. There is no real route for this hole (poke and pray:slapface: as this hole was designed for the old teepad over the road that we can't use anymore)and somebody painted the top of the yellow rim white (which matches the sand perfectly of the beach we aren't supposed to be playing on). Bob said he'd put a pink ribbon on top of the cage which should do the trick on game day but not sure when he'll get it up

Bob, is there any way to move 6 back to the left location?

I know you want the hardest pins for LCO, but that position on the sand is just stupid. As Jeremy has said its just a poke and pray without a consistent way to the basket.

The left position has the added bonus of being much more visible.

[#28923]

On the waiting list as of yesterday. I have the wagon and family ready to roll. Waiting for clearance with fingers crossed.

D

[prospect]

Bob, is there any way to move 6 back to the left location?

...its just a poke and pray without a consistent way to the basket.



RH forehand does nicely...

[Yoduh]

RH forehand does nicely...

If you pray consistently it does have the highest odds of being lucky but if you call hitting a 10 foot gap at 190 feet skill and then missing the last 2 on the way to the basket and having a putt doing just nicely you obviously don't know what nicely means:D:D I will be throwing a forehand on this hole but I'm not gonna fool myself into thinking pure skill got me the birdie. The other pin placement has several routes and not one of them is really very easy but if you hit your shot you will have a chance at birdie.. and also you'll have proven your skill.:pirate:

[Wobbly Bob]

On the waiting list as of yesterday. I have the wagon and family ready to roll. Waiting for clearance with fingers crossed.

D

You are now in the #2 position on the wait list.

[Wobbly Bob]

Will there be a surprise smoking ban announced during the players' meeting, or will forethought be employed this year?

Smoking while walking on the course at Four Mound will result in automatic DQ with no warning. Sit on the bench and smoke if you wish. I love Four Mound and would hate to have any little part of it catch fire.

[prospect]

...if you call hitting a 10 foot gap at 190 feet skill... The other pin placement has several routes and not one of them is really very easy but if you hit your shot you will have a chance at birdie.. and also you'll have proven your skill.:pirate:

Actually, the shorter placement is a ton easier, and I DO call hitting a 10 foot gap at 190 feet skill, regardless of what happens on the other side of that gap. I think new 12 is a poke and pray as well, and definitely not forehand friendly, but I will execute my shot as well as I can, without bitching.

[prospect]

Hey everyone playing LCO, guess what? We're gonna have a RANDOM DRAW doubles match at High Bridge Friday night, 5pm, hole 11. It will be $5, no ace pot, 100% payout. I will start taking money at 5 pm, and we will tee off no later than 5:30. Everyone come out and have fun meow. :biggrin2:

[Gordy #21004]

Team Oly has landed:yay:

[Rideout]

I'm trying to find directions to Four Mounds and am not having much luck. Probably right in front of my face somewhere, but can anyone help me out? Just an address I can input would be fine.

Also, are the directions to High Bridge that are given on the PDGA website correct?

Thanks, this should be a fun weekend.

Mike

[ChUcK]

Smoking while walking on the course at Four Mound will result in automatic DQ with no warning. Sit on the bench and smoke if you wish. I love Four Mound and would hate to have any little part of it catch fire.

I recommend an official statement of some sort. Not everybody knows all the little house rules at Four Mound.

Gordy, the smoking ban may not have been a surprise to you, but it sure threw the smokers for a loop.

I don't care about whether you allow smoking on your private property. That's for you to decide. You just have to let your guests know ahead of time so proper alternatives can be arranged. That would be to your benefit as well, because then all the angry smokers wouldn't be stealing puffs on the sly (which every smoker I know did last year), and this would be more likely to start a fire that open, honest smoking.

You think this is a small, insignificant point, but seeing as how everybody has all these strong emotions over cigarettes it obviously isn't. Figure it out!

[prospect]

I'm trying to find directions to Four Mounds and am not having much luck. Probably right in front of my face somewhere, but can anyone help me out? Just an address I can input would be fine.

Also, are the directions to High Bridge that are given on the PDGA website correct?

Thanks, this should be a fun weekend.

Mike

Mike,
The directions to Four Mounds can be found here: http://www.nwdiscgolfnews.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1065

The directions for High Bridge are correct.

:cheers:

[Rideout]

Thank you, see you this weekend.


Mike,
The directions to Four Mounds can be found here: http://www.nwdiscgolfnews.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1065

The directions for High Bridge are correct.

:cheers:

[Parks]

I think new 12 is a poke and pray as well, and definitely not forehand friendly, but I will execute my shot as well as I can, without bitching.

You can't be seriously comparing the shot options on 6 alt vs. 12 alt.?

Hole 12 alt has a very fair and large path on the right. Its a RHBH flat hyzer shot, and if you play it too wide or fade too quick then you hit trees and have to make a fair upshot. The RHFH route on the left is a bit lucky, but its still wider than 6's route and you can always take the skill route on the right if you don't want to leave it to chance.

Here is why the shot on 6 is awful: The fairway path isn't clearly defined, except there are a couple gaps that are 10-15 feet wide on the far left, but there are tons of little crappy luck routes through the 5-7 foot gaps on the right that rewards bad shots sometimes. For short throwers, there also isn't a safe layup area that will consistently leave them a good upshot.

The hole disproportionately punishes shots that are only off by a little. This is a big thing for golf. Missing your line by a foot or two can get you kicked off to the right in some nastiness where you don't have a real chance at three.

An example of a hole that correctly punishes misses is hole 14 at HB. If you miss your line a little or stall or turnover a little too much, then you just miss the road leading to the basket and you just have a tougher upshot and lose your birdie chance. If you miss your line a lot then you will hit the early thick stuff on the left or right, or you will be wayyyy left or right on the road and have a hill and trees in your way that will require a hero shot for a 3. This is golf, and not luck.

Not to mention that hole 6 alt is on the sand near the creek, where we aren't supposed to be.

Hole 6's only saving grace is that it probably has a decent scoring distribution. I imagine it would be like 20% birdie, 60% par, 20% bogey or higher for the Pro field, but that score is a roll of the dice.

[Yoduh]

agree with Lyle 19000000%

[Yoduh]

Bob did switch hole 6 and I almost aced it and missed the 15ft comebacker.. and the 15ft comebacker after that.. 3 of 5 birdied it on my card. We star birdied alt 12 and it had to be there due to alt 13.. Had ablast this weekend despite putting WOES!! Played well enough to win, putted well enough to barely cash ;)

[RIVETER]

Does anyone have an estimate of when the final results for LCO will be posted?

[ChUcK]

I was wondering the same thing Saturday night and Sunday night.

[DMajor]

The tournament kicked ass. Downriver is always fun and tricky with birdie potential on almost all of the holes and lots of bogey stroke potential with all those fast greens. I think High Bridge played atleast four strokes harder this year with the changes made. The icing on the cake is Sunday. Four Mounds is too much fun. If I lived in Spokane I would get up there every day possible. It must take a whole lot of work to get that place tournament ready and I have never been dissapointed by any of the layouts or mystery holes including the 150' wall of tiny trees with the 8 inch gaps between the tee and basket. 3 of the 5 people in my group managed to find the tiny sidearm hole on the high left side of the tee but nobody converted the duece from about 25'. I am already looking forward to the finals out there and I missed playing a bunch of the holes that didn't make the Jumanji cut this time around. There were some very hot rounds played on all of the courses but especially on Jumanji. That course is a marathon. Next time I play that layout I am going to eat about a 4000 calorie breakfast to make it through the round. Apples and powerbars just don't cut it.

[Parks]

Did you end up caddying for Dana Major? I see her signed up on the LCO list, but no Dan Major. http://www.pdga.com/tournament-results?TournID=10141

Also, I thought the 150 foot "Pan's Labyrinth" hole is probably the only hole out at Four Mound that is truly poorly designed. I'm sure its designed to take players out of their comfort zone by constricting the teepad and the options, but the routes through the trees simply don't follow golf lines. Its pretty much luck getting through there.

In the end, four people in my group threw RHBH spike hyzers through the small gap high and right and one person threw a high angle forehand from the back of the teepad, and four people ended up with putts. The more that people throw these routes, the more they will open up, and in a year or so they will be super wide and easy.

I think the hole could work with some modifications, but right now its just silly that actually throwing threw the trees isn't a good option.

[DMajor]

Jub Jub Hadley with an 83 on Jumanji!

[Wobbly Bob]

Does anyone have an estimate of when the final results for LCO will be posted?

I've posted the results from the Lilac City Open to the PDGA website.:trophy: I'll be working on the series points this week :posting: and will try to have them posted by Friday.

There was a tournament addition error that changed the results in the Adv. Women's division. :pullhair: Celeste Isensee took first place in the FW1 division and Kelly Muth took second. I'll be touching base with both of you this week. :)

I found it interesting that Highbridge played tougher than Downriver ratings wise.

[Parks]

I found it interesting that Highbridge played tougher than Downriver ratings wise.

Barely. They were both really close in terms of rating.

I don't think its surprising, though.

Downriver has more really easy birdie holes than High Bridge in the configuration that you used. At DR: Hole 1, 13, 14 vs. just Hole 9 and 18 at HB. Also, the hard holes at High Bridge play much harder, in my opinion. Nothing at Downriver is as hard as holes 5, 13 and 14 at High Bridge, although 5, 7 (old 9) and 9 (old 11) come fairly close.

If you put High Bridge in all the toughest positions, then it would play within a couple strokes of SSA 54.

[Lyounger]

I wanted to thank Bob and Gordy for TDing the LCO this year. I think the tourney was fantastic. Jaymie did a great job on the food that was provided. I wanted to acknowlege her hard work and those who helped her.

Many people contributed a great deal to this tourney and I want to especially thank Karen, Marty, Kristi and Melody for all the help they provided me at tourney central checking people in, counting cards, answering questions and just basically making it work.

I do want to apologize for messing up the distribution of the Pro player's packets. I wasn't listening well enough to Bob's instructions and didn't get those distributed Sat morning. If anyone didn't get one at Fourmound on Sunday please let me know. I'll owe you a beverage!!

If you happened to get one out of the box and you weren't supposed to...well...disc karma.

Thanks to everyone who participated and helped in any way. It was great to see so many folks having a good time out in the country. Fourmound is truly a magical place!!

[mazza]

two things real quick. first mr. bob do you happen to know when and where some of the pics will be posted???? 2. where would i find the SSA rating of the blue course( i think ) out at 4mounds(becuz some one told me that the porcipine 13 had never been played in a tourny and that i may have help set the ssa rating of that course).......

MAN this tourny was a blast HB and DR were fun as hell to play i and i was stoked when i crushed a 450' drive on hole 9 of DR. and the course i played at 4mounds was a tru test for an AM. it was only 13 holes but we played it twice with no break so all together it was 26 holes for the 3rd round. the one moment that will be with me was on hole 9 of blue( 571' down hill that finshed with a slight up hill) locals call it the truck hole. during our first time around i step on the tee box and launched a 164 esp NUKE with a big ass 360 degree drive that cleared all the trees and landed about 480' away. and i will never forget the feeling i had when i got my first trophy for my 2nd place finish in MA2. once again thanks for the fun times and great memories. and i'll see ya'll in sept for the finals

[LJ Jubner]

Also, I thought the 150 foot "Pan's Labyrinth" hole is probably the only hole out at Four Mound that is truly poorly designed. I'm sure its designed to take players out of their comfort zone by constricting the teepad and the options, but the routes through the trees simply don't follow golf lines. Its pretty much luck getting through there.

In the end, four people in my group threw RHBH spike hyzers through the small gap high and right and one person threw a high angle forehand from the back of the teepad, and four people ended up with putts. The more that people throw these routes, the more they will open up, and in a year or so they will be super wide and easy.

I think the hole could work with some modifications, but right now its just silly that actually throwing threw the trees isn't a good option.
My DFL group had one RHBH from the back par (success) one RHFH 4 ( doinked par putt) I hit tree in front of box 2nd was dink roller (still pared)

I was wondering the same thing Saturday night and Sunday night.

Unfortunately Edge forgot the laptop and Bob deserved some sleep

Jub Jub Hadley with an 83 on Jumanji!

That's true Dan but I still had 24, 25,and 26 left to play.

[DMajor]

That's true Dan but I still had 24, 25,and 26 left to play.


I see the results have changed. That's too bad I was wondering how you would have pulled that off.

I thought maybe Gordy showed you some super secret routes and you found the perfect strand and you had the round of your life and you made every putt and missed every tree and got a few lucky rolls and..........

[Lyounger]

I see the results have changed. That's too bad I was wondering how you would have pulled that off.

I thought maybe Gordy showed you some super secret routes and you found the perfect strand and you had the round of your life and you made every putt and missed every tree and got a few lucky rolls and..........

.....and you weren't playing with the gabby girls anymore!!

[Parks]

I do want to apologize for messing up the distribution of the Pro player's packets. I wasn't listening well enough to Bob's instructions and didn't get those distributed Sat morning. If anyone didn't get one at Fourmound on Sunday please let me know. I'll owe you a beverage!!

Pro player's packet? Wha?

I got a little bag with a mini, maps, and candies when I checked in on Friday, was there supposed to be a disc or something?

[Lyounger]

Pro player's packet? Wha?

I got a little bag with a mini, maps, and candies when I checked in on Friday, was there supposed to be a disc or something?

Nope, no disc, just the mini and the goodies...you got the Pro packet :-)

[LJ Jubner]

.....and you weren't playing with the gabby girls anymore!!

Oh NO, your not pinning that on me. If anything, I was the chatty Cathy. I got an education on what a friendly group all the gals areb cause I finish dfl lots.

Q? if you bag up can you really finish dfl?

Dan Can shed some light on Baggin Up!!!

[Yoduh]

I didn't get a players pack but I'll survive.. High Bridge did play tougher than Downriver and it would have been more so if 6 was in the long.. They actually played really close to each other which is good if you ever had to split pools..

[Gordy #21004]

I see the results have changed. That's too bad I was wondering how you would have pulled that off.

I thought maybe Gordy showed you some super secret routes and you found the perfect strand and you had the round of your life and you made every putt and missed every tree and got a few lucky rolls and..........

No, it was because Jub made coffee at 6:00 in the morning, cooked breakfast, did the windows, weed-wacked the whole tourny central area , hauled water, picked up trash, made me quesadillas on sat. and sun. night when I was dead.... cleaned out the barn so we had a place in case it didn't stop raining, helped me cut Launch Pads and load them in the tractor. Brought me beer. I wanted him to be under for the round but Bob didn't think anyone would believe it.:shocked:

[LJ Jubner]

No, it was because Jub made coffee at 6:00 in the morning, cooked breakfast, did the windows, weed-wacked the whole tourny central area , hauled water, picked up trash, made me quesadillas on sat. and sun. night when I was dead.... cleaned out the barn so we had a place in case it didn't stop raining, helped me cut Launch Pads and load them in the tractor. Brought me beer. I wanted him to be under for the round but Bob didn't think anyone would believe it.:shocked:

Dammit Chef Now everyone knows how to get a room in the new house.

LCO was a great success. The weather did hold off for most of the weekend. Not like Thur night. The rain storm reminded me of home.

[ericedge]

I put up a few PICTURES (http://www.flickr.com/photos/edgepix/sets/72157624241673106/detail/), mainly of Sunday's skins match. Click on the thumbnail if you care to see a larger version.

[Cerrgurry]

I put up a few PICTURES (http://www.flickr.com/photos/edgepix/sets/72157624241673106/detail/), mainly of Sunday's skins match. Click on the thumbnail if you care to see a larger version.

Thanks for putting up some pics...most are great shots :D

[Parks]

I think I forgot to do this, so here it is:

Thanks to Bob and Gordy for making this event so great!

Four Mound looked beautifully cared for and the tournament was well organized.

[GettinBetter]

I enjoyed my last tourney as a Washington resident. I had to leave in a haste and didn't get to say bye to a lot of people. If anyone is ever in the Indiana region hit me up for some golf.

It was a nice ending as I got to play on my first lead card in Advanced with some great golfers.

Adios everyone, it's been fun.

[Joshua Olmsted]

Sorry to here you're leaving the Tacomaland, it was good playing with you, definitely show those Indiana folks how you dye here in the NW. Congrats on a good finish.

[mazza]

hey bob when will we be able to see some of the pics from the LCO???