saw some one with a ce firebird..

[Mikk]

This guy plays in auburn alot. This guy has SOMEONE elses red ce firebird. This guy KNOWS who's it is but keeps it anyways. The disc in question was traded for 5 star discs. I tried to get it and return it but the current "holder" wouldn't let me even check it out. I did see another name but couldn't make it out. I told this person that the owner would probibly want the disc back. I was told too bad for him. What to do??????:cop:

[mazza]

one of the last times i was out at white river. i played with a guy that had a C.E. firebird. well one of the other guys in my 4 some was talking to him thru out the whole round about trading him 5 star plastic disc for his C.E. now if the deal went thru i am not sure. but the last thing i heard was "I can't throw this damn thing. so yeah i think i will trade ya". i told him he was dumb to do the trade since he had a $100 disc in his hand. but who am i to judge.so yeah that may or may not be the story with the disc in question

[Mikk]

it is. I know all persons involved. I'm NOT trying to start ##$# but that deal made shame on the game. That shouldn't happen. The owners name was removed by using carb cleaner. Its a shame I tell ya

[snap7times]

with all the stereotypes that we have in our sport, we will have plenty of do-gooders, and even more people who keep dragging the sport to rock bottom... I have lost more than 5 discs here at Rocklin and not even one call or email... Do what you can at the moment to show them what they are doing is very wrong and walk away without injury. I've seen worse, people picking up discs and running off... Keep up the good fight...

[Jonesy]

a former friend of mine stole discs and a bag from my roommate last summer before moving back out of state. if i ever see him I'm gonna knock him out, take his bag and 3 discs that fly similarly to the ones he stole. this is a bit more personal though. if I was friends with the person who lost it I'd just take it one way or the other and return it.
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[Jonesy]

also, i would want to know if i was throwing with that person. i don't throw with theives.
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[Joshua Olmsted]

and even more people who keep dragging the sport to rock bottom...

Though I understand the sentiment, I think the majority of disc golfers are genuinely nice people who care about the game, I think it's a few rotten eggs who spoil the pot.

[mazza]

Though I understand the sentiment, I think the majority of disc golfers are genuinely nice people who care about the game, I think it's a few rotten eggs who spoil the pot.

HAHAHA my momma said i'm good for 2 things. NO good..and good for nothing.
he who spoils POT.. gets throw'n in the fryin pan....HAHAHA

[Bruce]

HAHAHA my momma said i'm good for 2 things. NO good..and good for nothing.
he who spoils POT.. gets throw'n in the fryin pan....HAHAHA

...How old are you? Pretty sure most of us got out of grade school a while ago.

[mazza]

...How old are you? Pretty sure most of us got out of grade school a while ago.

the number that changes every year...29....mentally i'm about 6...ewww who farted:laughing:

but now back on track..mikk your a great guy just for the fact that u care enough to question someone with a disc in there bag that may not be theirs.

[Mikk]

I don't think its my place to question such things. However Karma bites hard so let it be I guess. I had some discs stolen not to long ago from white river. The other golfers I play with got them all back anonomusly(i spell like ####). I try to return whats lost. What I loose finds its way home, well mostly. I no longer play with this person and I let it be known why. No foul exchanges. The golf course is my sanctuary and I don't want that to change.

[snap7times]

Though I understand the sentiment, I think the majority of disc golfers are genuinely nice people who care about the game, I think it's a few rotten eggs who spoil the pot.

The reason I feel I could openly say that, is that I have lived in quite a few areas in the past 10 years and Oregon has it good with the common sense courtesy in the sport and other areas have it not so good so that is where I got my comment from... But eventually the number of rotten eggs will go down with the growth of the sport...

[Bruce]

The reason I feel I could openly say that, is that I have lived in quite a few areas in the past 10 years and Oregon has it good with the common sense courtesy in the sport and other areas have it not so good so that is where I got my comment from... But eventually the number of rotten eggs will go down with the growth of the sport...


I wish I could agree there Snap, but recently most of us in the Portland area, and by most I am speaking of my closer friends that golf. Have seen a decline in returns on lost discs. In the last year I've lost quite a few pieces of plastic, and have gotten a call from 1 person (aside from Haggerty but I consider that guy a friend) that has found a disc of mine. He tried to do the right thing but in his excitement forgot to leave his phone number on my voice mail. Poor CE Eagle :(

[snap7times]

The more people that play the sport, the more rookies there are that are picking up our discs and keeping them... I've lost 5 or 6 at the course here, no calls at all... boo... just hope someone is throwing them and having fun...

[ryanajanes]

i found a ce firebird with no name once. how awesome is that!

[ChUcK]

But eventually the number of rotten eggs will go down with the growth of the sport...

Nope. The ratio of normal people/rotten eggs will remain the same. The number of rotten eggs will actually increase proportionally to the size of the game.

[emmarose]

sheesh... all this nasty talk of stealin' and thievin' makes me want to just go back to my private little course with it's old school copper pins where i know everyone and they know me and no one steals and we all love eachother...

... and where none of us know nothin' 'bout ce firebirds...

;)

peace,
em

[snap7times]

Nope. The ratio of normal people/rotten eggs will remain the same. The number of rotten eggs will actually increase proportionally to the size of the game.

pessimist... heh...

[ChUcK]

Nope again- that's realism. Pessimism is a different ballgame.

[keys]

Nope again- that's realism. Pessimism is a different ballgame.

I had to share this quote after seeing this.

"No, I'm not a pessimist. At some point the world shits on everybody. Pretending it ain't shit makes you an idiot, not an optimist."

http://www.facebook.com/?ref=logo#!/pages/ShitMyDadSays/223123485280?ref=ts

[Tim]

Nope. The ratio of normal people/rotten eggs will remain the same. The number of rotten eggs will actually increase proportionally to the size of the game.

As bleak a prediction as that is, its true. Actually, there's a possibility that the ratio of dirtbags could disproportionately increase as the sport grows.

On a more positive note, as the sport increases in popularity, it may become more feasible for more private/pay to play courses to spring up, where I'd imagine you'd have less of the ne'er-do-wells to deal with.

[Mikk]

I try to play with noobs to teach them the way. Some won't get the idea but most will. There fore I'm an optimist cuz I don't like poo!!

[erp]

You seem pretty young so this was inspiring to hear from you - lead by example, gently show the right way, and distance yourself from the douchebags.

Kudos!

I try to play with noobs to teach them the way. Some won't get the idea but most will. There fore I'm an optimist cuz I don't like poo!!

[ryanajanes]

i dont think the amount of "rotten eggs" will increase with the amount of people playing getting larger. as long as we all do our part in showing the noobies how karma works in disc golf. when you find a disc, it IS NOT yours, it is simply trying to find its way home.

[snap7times]

I am one of the few people who likes to just go disc golfing and since most of the time I will be alone or with one other person, I will ask to join other people or I will just join them anyways. I am not picky if they suck realllly bad or if they are really good. I played with josh anthon one round, the next with 3 guys who were new.. doesn't matter to me, but I try to curb any behavior that is not good to the game. One thing I am well known for is my over dramatic body language when I see trash on the ground near garbage cans or like there's 20 people standing right there with a huge plastic bag rolling around them and none of them pick it up, they get the idea, pick the stuff up! As for rotten eggs, we just gotta do our best to curb it, although some of us are more aggressive and others just stand there and too scared to say something...

[Toby Puttzinski]

I'm a disc voyeur, and when I see someone who appears new to the game throwing a CE disc or some other rare/collector disc I will try to eyeball it even closer... sometimes I'll ask to check it out, and several times I have recovered a friend's disc-- it's been a few years since I've seen one of mine being throw by a perp... just got Snooskie Longhorn's green Augusta Wrath back the other day at North Park(couldn't really fault the guy since it only had a pdga # on it-- he didn't even know what the number was for).

Sometimes I wonder where all of these lost/ un-returned discs go... if somebody was out there throwing my ChUcK dyed(eagles on) CE Eagle(s), or the orc that he dyed palm trees, sunset, and ACE across the top for me, or my blue CE leopard that I miss so dearly... surely somebody I know would have noticed the disc(s) sticking out like a sore thumb and confiscated the stolen goods... let's all be more diligent in getting discs returned to their rightful owners.

At North Park, it's easy to spot a disc/player that don't match... but I seem to have an eye for it-- I've confiscated quite a few 'stolen' discs over the years, and most of them have been CE, because those are the ones that catch your eye... I spotted Ben's Augusta Wrath from 150' last week, and knew immediately that it didn't belong to the guy holding it.
I asked him if he had found the disc... "In my buddy's bag, it's his", he tells me... I ask to check it out, and sure as heck, it's my friend's disc.

I've done the 4-5 discs for a CE disc many times, (often after inspecting/inquiring about newb's said disc) but I always make sure that the disc isn't stolen/not returned.

[Mikk]

You seem pretty young so this was inspiring to hear from you - lead by example, gently show the right way, and distance yourself from the douchebags.

Kudos!
Definitly no greenhorn here. I've been chuckin plastic sence 1992. If we don't take the time to show the ropes then we get slackers who don't care. We the golfers for life are responsible (partly) for how this game plays out. Most of us are playin everyday and are seen by newbs/younger players. These people DO watch what we are doin. People will litter-crap- on the course and take discs. I have been playin with noobs at auburn/white river for 5 years now and have a good reputation. Most other newer players tell the noobs to ask me for guidence and mabe a disc cuz I give the old ones away. I try to show the way. Please don't litter. Please return a waywerd disc if you find it. Yell FORE if you shag a drive even if you don't see a body down wind. These are the things the pro's who took their time and showed me the way. What makes me pissed off is seeing an ol-salt of the game pocketting a disc thats not theirs cuz its "worth something". There should be a wall of shame or something.
I have taken discs from slackers with MY name on them and my friends as well. It happens. Don't be a jerk unless jerkey-ness is thrown down. I have been known to be loud and nasty to some.
Keep the faith of thy plastic and slam not unto trees!!! I don't realy care for plastic tacos..eeeewwwww

[XandorF]

Nope. The ratio of normal people/rotten eggs will remain the same. The number of rotten eggs will actually increase proportionally to the size of the game.

thats not true... but whatever. according to statistics it will stay the same. forever. the only thing that changes is how you perceive it.

[Ol' Bob]

Two pennies' worth from an old fart: Attitudes have continued to shift throughout the U.S. population over the attentive period of my lifetime. I suspect the greater influence of teevee and the falling level of a quality, broad-based, public educational environment. What has been called, "the dummying down of the American people," is showing its effect over time. I expect, that unless there is reversal of this imposed trend, the rotten eggs are rife to increase. Is it Nature or Nurture? I'm convinced it's mostly Nurture, and until that part of the problem is seen to, it will only get worse.

[Adam Schneider]

"The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they allow disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children now are tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers." — Socrates


(not really by Socrates, but it usually gets attributed to him, and the sentiment is nothing new at any rate)

[Ol' Bob]

...nothing new at any rate)

I would guess it portrays a particular point along the time-line of a given society. No one would write such a thing when the culture is not in decline. No one would think to.

It was a fun empire while it lasted. Let us hope the Revolution doesn't outlaw disc golf. The forces of reaction are usually a bit clumsy.

[Adam Schneider]

No one would write such a thing when the culture is not perceived to be in decline.
Fixed that for ya.

Someone ALWAYS thinks the culture is in decline. Darn kids...

[Ol' Bob]

Sorry about all that perceiving. I'll try to keep that in check.

Wouldn't the whole point of the dummying down be to corrupt the ability to perceive? With that much accomplished, those with any level of perception needn't apply for any position save Court Jester.

[Ol' Bob]

I just got to thinking that it is probably a rare hunter/gatherer society, when untouched by modern Euro-centric empire culture, that has the kinds of uppity kids that make one bemoan them as illustrated above. Am I hopelessly naive to believe there might be ways to live upon this earth in a general widespread satisfaction?

Koyaanisqatsi: Look it up.

[General Scales]

I think the whole problem is based on what course you play and what type of people tend to inhibit the course. Downriver and Highbridge both have netted me lots of returns on my discs (a couple of bad situations too). Nowhere near as many as I've lost but then again a few of those discs have to be lost in a crazy lost dimension.

As for places like Corbin Park, where there is disc golf plus a bunch of other things happening at the same time, the return rate will drop. I've had discs stolen as I'm walking to where they should be. I've seen people purposely circle the park waiting for somebody to bomb one in the road so that they can snag it. Not to mention people who don't even know what a disc golf disc is, walking along and saying 'Wow, somebody just left this weird thing on the ground? Looks like a dog toy to me'.

Reminding people of what you should do when you find a disc is great. Making sure that same person does that and informs the people they get hooked on the sport is a little harder. As for random arseholes, well, thats just gonna be a problem. Can't change jerks into nice guys. But you can change a nice guy into a jerk.

[Ol' Bob]

Thank God I'm a country boy!

[Ode]

theres been talk before about doing bag check days. we would gather club members in club shirts and check peoples bags on the first hole. as long as we make sure not to discriminate against kids and let them know that this is for their benefit as well as ours and tell them that it is not good to keep found plastic, it think its a great idea. i know im still looking for a few discs that i would kill to get back. it really only takes a newbie loosing their favorite disc for most of them to learn that returning discs is the right thing to do.

[NWDiscer]

Speaking of missing CE, I still have a blue 155 Leopard, found at Trojan last summer- the name is 'Anne Schagen'.

It also has a faded and crossed out name that looks like Keith Gatt or Gall?

Called on it and posted on the lost and found thread months ago, but still no response. I'd put it in my bag for kicks, (don't have any CE of my own) but afraid I'd run into her on the course and get beat up :eek:


You made the effort. 3 months is plenty of wait time put it in your bag throw it.

[TYVEK]

theres been talk before about doing bag check days. we would gather club members in club shirts and check peoples bags on the first hole. as long as we make sure not to discriminate against kids and let them know that this is for their benefit as well as ours and tell them that it is not good to keep found plastic, it think its a great idea. i know im still looking for a few discs that i would kill to get back. it really only takes a newbie loosing their favorite disc for most of them to learn that returning discs is the right thing to do.

to me this seems way out of line. its a public course and even though a "club" is resposible for maintaining the course, they can not start being the "disc police" out there. even a police officer can not just walk up to me and search my belonings without cause to. so the local club has no right to impose a search comitee on everybody that comes to play.

[Uhlman]

to me this seems way out of line. its a public course and even though a "club" is resposible for maintaining the course, they can not start being the "disc police" out there. even a police officer can not just walk up to me and search my belonings without cause to. so the local club has no right to impose a search comitee on everybody that comes to play.
I agree while this may seem like a good idea it will come back to bite you.
You don’t need to be a Supreme Court Judge to see this violates the Constitution of the U.S. Something about the having the right from unreasonable searches and seizures I believe.
Why not have a disc swap meet instead where people can show what they have and you can look for "lost" discs.

[TreeLove]

theres been talk before about doing bag check days.

Only in this post-9/11 world would we even consider such an invasion of privacy.

[Matt B.]

theres been talk before about doing bag check days. we would gather club members in club shirts and check peoples bags on the first hole. as long as we make sure not to discriminate against kids and let them know that this is for their benefit as well as ours and tell them that it is not good to keep found plastic, it think its a great idea. i know im still looking for a few discs that i would kill to get back. it really only takes a newbie loosing their favorite disc for most of them to learn that returning discs is the right thing to do.

I'm guessing the shirts are brown? Snazzy armbands? "It's for your own good, folks...board the train right over here."

[Uhlman]

Or you could ask them, "Hey that looked like a really neat disc, what was it?" or something to that effect.

[ChUcK]

theres been talk before about doing bag check days. we would gather club members in club shirts and check peoples bags on the first hole. as long as we make sure not to discriminate against kids and let them know that this is for their benefit as well as ours and tell them that it is not good to keep found plastic, it think its a great idea. i know im still looking for a few discs that i would kill to get back. it really only takes a newbie loosing their favorite disc for most of them to learn that returning discs is the right thing to do.

This

is a bad idea. I wonder if you can guess what my response would be if I saw some douche trying to inspect bags without a TSA patch on his shoulder?

[Uhlman]

This

is a bad idea. I wonder if you can guess what my response would be if I saw some douche trying to inspect bags without a TSA patch on his shoulder?

:angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :pullhair: :shooting: :smash: :mad: :mad: :angry: :explode: or something to that effect.

[Tim]

theres been talk before about doing bag check days. we would gather club members in club shirts and check peoples bags on the first hole. as long as we make sure not to discriminate against kids and let them know that this is for their benefit as well as ours and tell them that it is not good to keep found plastic, it think its a great idea. i know im still looking for a few discs that i would kill to get back. it really only takes a newbie loosing their favorite disc for most of them to learn that returning discs is the right thing to do.

What could possibly go wrong?

[LegoRules]

theres been talk before about doing bag check days. we would gather club members in club shirts and check peoples bags on the first hole. as long as we make sure not to discriminate against kids and let them know that this is for their benefit as well as ours and tell them that it is not good to keep found plastic, it think its a great idea. i know im still looking for a few discs that i would kill to get back. it really only takes a newbie loosing their favorite disc for most of them to learn that returning discs is the right thing to do.



How could you possibly think this is was ok what an envasion of privacy. If it were me I would turn around, and leave the course before I would allow anyone to search my bag. Then I would be sure to never have anything to do with said club. Some sort of education program like having the same club memebers at the course informing people how the process of returning found plastic works, and how it benifits them I think would be much better.

Cindy :)

[Ol' Bob]

I'm guessing the shirts are brown? Snazzy armbands? "It's for your own good, folks...board the train right over here."

Though I would admit that my initial thoughts where quite parallel to this, c'mon, this is a different day and time. Better we take anyone possessing a suspicious disc (not to mention any item of contraband) in their bags), or anyone who might decide to refuse these necessary security inspections, aboard a secret flight to secondary national jurisdiction where these suspects might be questioned without outmoded constraints. It should be easy, within a year or two, to determine what they were up to, or anything of a security threat nature they may have been concealing. After the process has played itself out, they will surely see the wisdom of our actions. If they had nothing to hide, they never had a thing to fear.

And may God bless America.

[mrDROCK]

Okay, lets get back on track.

I was out at Pier yesterday when I walked down to the circle on #11 and saw a new Huk Lab champion Monarch(?) down at the basket. I checked the group behind me and the big group throwing off at #13 before picking up the disc and finding NO NAME OR NUMBER!!! About that time one of the guys in front of me starts running up from #12 to the tee on #11 and so I ask him if he is missing something. Its his disc and I remind him to write his name on it.

On another note, I almost lost one of my aviars to the water drain by the practice basket at Pier. While saving it I noticed another disc down in the drain, far from reach. I attempted to retrieve with a long stick, but no luck. I am planning a rescue mission tomorrow. Do you know anybody that has lost one down there?

[Matt B.]

how would you know if they were stollen? :shocked: would you just figure it was stollen?


I would know it by its deliciousness. Mmmm stollen...brings me back to Christmastime in Wisconsin.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stollen

[Mikk]

wow did this topic get wierd. anyway I do like the disc swap meet. Might find some cool "old skool" plastic to trade for!!

[all2common]

I would know it by its deliciousness. Mmmm stollen...brings me back to Christmastime in Wisconsin.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stollen

Great Harvest up on 25th and Willamette makes a great stollen around the holidays...with rum sauce. Or they did when I worked there.

[Ol' Bob]

Geez, this sure brought out the fruitcakes.

[mrDROCK]

Geez, this sure brought out the fruitcakes.

::BADUMP CHISH:: :biggrin2:

[erp]

And in Minnesota, come January, ve use the leftofers to bash holes in da ice so the eelpouts can breathe!

I would know it by its deliciousness. Mmmm stollen...brings me back to Christmastime in Wisconsin.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stollen

[snap7times]

bad boys, bad boys, whatcha' gonna do, whatcha' gonna do when they come for you...

ok no police please... I would hate for an inspection to reveal some really private stuff... heh

I still think there should be a master lost and found list. People email one person on lost and returned discs and the one person or several moderators w access to the same email address can update the database on a weekly basis based on lost and returned discs. Just have an excel program concept, have; name and type of disc, ink on it, location and date found, and how to get this disc back. Mods just update the database to keep it up to date heh. Once a disc has been on the list for more than 90 days, then the owner can say it's theirs now because they posted it on a well known lost and found list?

[Ode]

steily is leased from the county by the club and the club therefore has additional authority within the course. im not saying this means we can or will do anything, but this means the law may be/?is? on our side in such a case

[Uhlman]

steily is leased from the county by the club and the club therefore has additional authority within the course. im not saying this means we can or will do anything, but this means the law may be/?is? on our side in such a case

I guarantee this “Additional Authority” DOES NOT include invading people’s personal privacy.

[TYVEK]

steily is leased from the county by the club and the club therefore has additional authority within the course. im not saying this means we can or will do anything, but this means the law may be/?is? on our side in such a case

this would be like if i was leasing a storefront for a business and then searching every customer that came in. the club doesnt have ANY rights to search people or their possesions period.

[Matt B.]

steily is leased from the county by the club and the club therefore has additional authority within the course. im not saying this means we can or will do anything, but this means the law may be/?is? on our side in such a case

I'm sure the County would therefore love to hear that your club was using it's additional authority to get dressed in identical shirts and make people show you their papers...er discs. After the first three letters to the editor they'll be instantly renewing your lease for the next hundred years.

[Ol' Bob]

Can I have a tazer and a pistol? Please, huh, huh, can I, puhlease? And a badge too, okay? C'mon, puhlease???? Oh, and a truncheon and cuffs, huh, huh???

[mrDROCK]

Can I have a tazer and a pistol?


"Don't taze me man. Don't taze me!"

[Ol' Bob]

Then submit to the bag search.

[mrDROCK]

Then submit to the bag search.

Okay, okay. Here take my Lightning #1 Helix. It's horrid I know.

[Ode]

haha i love the internet

[Rideout]

As a Steily local, let me make it clear that I don’t support the idea of bag searches.

Can the club refuse the use of the land to players that don’t voluntarily submit their bag to be searched? It’s fine if you don’t want your bag searched, you’ll just have to turn around and go somewhere else. Like going to a concert or getting on a plane, you don’t have to get searched but if you don’t, your agenda must change.

Does the clubs lease on the land give them the legal right to refuse service to anyone for any reason? Who would make the call? Club President? Club Board Members? Current card holding club members? How could it be enforced? What if we were searching for guns, knives, pruning shears, spray paint, lock cutters, or outside food and drink? Would any of these searches be acceptable? Guns and knives if we’ve been having a lot of bloody mob riots on hole 15? Pruning shears and spray paint if people have been manipulating or marking up the course? Outside food and drink if the club has been losing money to the local Am/Pm?

If I ran a course on private land instead of leased government land, would it be my responsibility to provide a safe environment (especially if I were trying to get local schools to adopt disc golf activities, and this course was the only place I could tell them to send their students)? I think it would be my responsibility to provide a safe environment; I just don’t know if I should hire a private security team or call the local boys in blue.

I will drive far far away from my home course before I willingly subject myself to a bag search. But if every course did something like this, I would submit before giving up disc golf.

Mike

[Ol' Bob]

I manage a private course and have had a disc stolen out of my front yard. I confronted the leader of the only group it could have been the next time they were here, and he denied it. I returned a few discs they had lost here and continued inquiring about about that particular disc. Miracle of miracles, he found it "in his kid's bag" (and discdogs got his driver back). Funny, the kid wasn't here the day that one disappeared. But the red Club Mud Avair from the loaner box that the kid used the last time he'd been here was never seen again.

All in all, we only get a few of them apples here. I'd like to have the authority to taze the guys who toss their ciggy butts. If I was a doctor, I could call it, "aversion therapy."

[TYVEK]

As a Steily local, let me make it clear that I don’t support the idea of bag searches.

Can the club refuse the use of the land to players that don’t voluntarily submit their bag to be searched? It’s fine if you don’t want your bag searched, you’ll just have to turn around and go somewhere else. Like going to a concert or getting on a plane, you don’t have to get searched but if you don’t, your agenda must change.

Does the clubs lease on the land give them the legal right to refuse service to anyone for any reason? Who would make the call? Club President? Club Board Members? Current card holding club members? How could it be enforced? What if we were searching for guns, knives, pruning shears, spray paint, lock cutters, or outside food and drink? Would any of these searches be acceptable? Guns and knives if we’ve been having a lot of bloody mob riots on hole 15? Pruning shears and spray paint if people have been manipulating or marking up the course? Outside food and drink if the club has been losing money to the local Am/Pm?

If I ran a course on private land instead of leased government land, would it be my responsibility to provide a safe environment (especially if I were trying to get local schools to adopt disc golf activities, and this course was the only place I could tell them to send their students)? I think it would be my responsibility to provide a safe environment; I just don’t know if I should hire a private security team or call the local boys in blue.

I will drive far far away from my home course before I willingly subject myself to a bag search. But if every course did something like this, I would submit before giving up disc golf.

Mike

some great points, and i would beleive that a person (or club) might have the right(depending on lease agreement) to deny access to the leased property. if that is the case and somebody will not leave or is destructive/problematic, then proper way to enforce it is by calling in the local authourities (police). if the club starts trying to enforce things, i can deffinately see the potential for some fist fights or worse, by calling in the police the club wouldnt be put in a bad situation and are legaly in the clear.

I dont think the club or any individual citizen has the right to search anybody for anything(even weapons). once again that would have to be done by law enforcement, but they still need a reason to be searching a person in the first place.

If it was a privately owned course on private property, you still dont have the right to search somebody, but you can tell them straight up to get off your property and you dont need any reason for that.

[mrDROCK]

What if we were searching for guns, knives, pruning shears, spray paint, lock cutters, or outside food and drink?

Hmm... that could certainly help out at Pier. Also checking for drugs and alcohol, and dogs on leashes. ;)

[mrDROCK]

On another note...

The rescue operation was successful this morning at Pier. I got the grate off the water drain and pulled a Champion Spider out. It is James Lewismoss' and I left a message on his phone. Problem is he lives in South Carolina from what I can find out on PDGA, so I don't know if I can afford to ship it out there at the moment.

[Tim]

It's ~$2 to ship a disc. Though, if James really wants it, it'd be cool of him to send you a SASE. One of the first discs I ever returned was to a guy in several hundred miles away. I recovered it from some other guy that had found it, and sent it back to its owner, at my expense. Never even got a thank you for it. Harumph.

[mazza]

Can I have a tazer and a pistol?

go ahead i dare u to taze me. it just might be what i need to get my head stright(for the first time).. ooo and here is my disc bag go ahead and search ( just don't mind the stash and my glass)

[vapor]

theres been talk before about doing bag check days. we would gather club members in club shirts and check peoples bags on the first hole. as long as we make sure not to discriminate against kids and let them know that this is for their benefit as well as ours and tell them that it is not good to keep found plastic, it think its a great idea. i know im still looking for a few discs that i would kill to get back. it really only takes a newbie loosing their favorite disc for most of them to learn that returning discs is the right thing to do.

Would you and the members of your crew be subject to my bag search? Before you object I would explain that it's for your own benefit. I might also take all your keys and look in your cars to see what's hiding.

I have experience with confronting someone who was playing with a disc that I lost six months prior. It was a very distictive disc with my name and number still on it. He was a fairly new player and said **** gave it to him because it would be good for his level of play. The giver of said disc is and experienced player who plays in tournaments and might even be on this site. Whether you get a call or not when you lose a disc has more to do with the morality of the person than how many years of disc golf they have logged in.

[Ol' Bob]

As 'twas ever thus, anyone who wants the job of cop will likely be the worst possible person in that position. Same goes for wanna-be course cops. Now, where's that badge and tazer for me?

[mazza]

As 'twas ever thus, anyone who wants the job of cop will likely be the worst possible person in that position. Same goes for wanna-be course cops. Now, where's that badge and tazer for me?

i think you sir would make a great rent-a-cop :rockon:. and u can't taz someone u can't catch....hahaha