Midrange Madness

[Twitch]

Ok,

I just threw my Z-Buzzz about 20 feet or more into a massive blackberry patch at a park near my house. Over the past month or two I have noticed that this disc was really very over stable for me. To really get it to sing I had to throw it hard and with a lot of spin. Other wise it really brakes hard right (I throw LHBH) at the end. This is how it ended up in the brambles. Anyway, as my only midrange disc I was already looking at other options. Since I am a person who did not eat their spinach as a kid, I do not throw very hard. I also throw with that left arm of mine that does nothing else but throw a disc; I know I am a freak.

Anyway so does anyone have any other suggestions for a midrange disc?

Comet?
Mako?
Buzzz-SS?
Others?

Thanks all,

Mark

[Jonesy]

if you've got problems with over hyzering a buzz you don't have many options i think. try a mako or xd?
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[sillybizz]

If your Buzzz is too stable then I would recommend the Meteor. I'm not realy familiar with Innova but I think a Panther would be good.

Comet is very touchy; you need excellent form to make it work well and my Meteor kicked it out of the bag, plus the Meteor glides really well and can go as far as a driver when thrown right.

[erp]

A DX Ontario roc or a Star San Marino roc would be something to look at as well depending on your throw - the Mako is another good one and may go a bit further.

[sillybizz]

Aren't Roc's more stable than a Buzzz?

[erp]

Probably more so than a Rancho mold the Ontario is pretty much stable and the San Marino turns if you spin it up, in fact, my star Ontarios turn over pretty consistently.

There may be more face at the end, but my worked in Ranchos (Super rocs) fly about like an flx Buzzz.

I've also given DX Ontarios to beginning and intermediate players and had them start throwing very consistent straight and turnover shots pretty much out of the gate.

Not to start a roc v Buzzz thread again.

Aren't Roc's more stable than a Buzzz?

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[sillybizz]

Probably more so than a Rancho mold the Ontario is pretty much stable and the San Marino turns if you spin it up, in fact, my star Ontarios turn over pretty consistently.

There may be more face at the end, but my worked in Ranchos (Super rocs) fly about like an flx Buzzz.

I've also given DX Ontarios to beginning and intermediate players and had them start throwing very consistent straight and turnover shots pretty much out of the gate.

Not to start a roc v Buzzz thread again.

Good to know. I'm not familiar with all of the different Roc's and how they throw, haven't thrown one in 4-5 years.

[olydiscgolf]

MRV... way less stable than a ROC. Like you and your Buzz, my Roc's need a full throw to work. MRV is a finess disc that will go just as far as a Roc if needed, but doesn't need a full wind up.

[snap7times]

any newb or not so strong arms should always try out the dx stingray, this is one of the most forgiving disc on the market and has awesome glide for newbs... even pros use this for certain shots... i have seen more immediate success with a 150dx stingray than any other disc and I've introduced it to at least 20+ players, women and kids included. A meteor, kite, ontario mold roc are all good options, it's all what is comfortable to your hand...

[sillybizz]

Yeah I remember playing with a Stingray and a Shark when I first started and had better success with those than the big drivers of the time. (Valkyrie) I've forgotten about that till just now.

[maynard]

If you like the Buzz try a lighter weight of it. Example:if your Buzz was a max wt. of 180 try a 165-170g model. Also not all Rancho Roc's are "Super Roc's", point made to avoid any possible confusion.

[Adam Schneider]

If your Buzzz is too stable then I would recommend the Meteor.
Or try a beat-to-snot D Buzzz.

[JR Stengele]

coyote
buzz flx
mako
shark
meteor

[GettinBetter]

If you like the way the buzzz feels or you just want to throw one just to throw one you should...

Try a lighter one of the one you lost
or a X Buzzz
or a D Buzzz
or if you wanna be "cool" a Z Glo Buzzz SS

[sillybizz]

D Buzzz is a great route too and it beats in really fast, good suggestions.

[Jonesy]

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[Bruce]

I'd have to toss my vote in for a stingray or shark, two great control mids that can be forgiving.

[Adam Schneider]

I'd have to toss my vote in for a stingray or shark, two great control mids that can be forgiving.
But if he wants less fade than the Buzzz, the Mako would be a better choice than the Shark.

[Parks]

D Buzzz or X Comet.

Innova's understable mids lick balls, unless its a beat Roc.

[General Scales]

Never talked to anyone who said a Buzzz was too over-stable for them.

The Meteor would be my next guess for you. Little large in diameter for me though. A Mako would probably be good since they seem, from what I've thrown at least to be a tad less stable but just as glidey.

[sillybizz]

Never talked to anyone who said a Buzzz was too over-stable for them.

The Meteor would be my next guess for you. Little large in diameter for me though.

The Buzzz is actually a larger diameter then the Meteor.

Buzzz 21.7 cm
Meteor 21.5 cm
Mako 21.7 cm

[Twitch]

Thanks all for the suggestions.

Anyway, I did enjoy the Buzzz but I think that I was using it in situations where I needed to switch more to a putter. I had been so unhappy with my old putter last year that I think that I simply did not switch when I got within 120 feet or so. I have two newer putters now and I'm enjoying better success there.

Anyway, I still liked the fade my Buzzz had in certain situations. I think I will get a Z-Glo at a slightly lighter weight. I am also thinking of the Meteor or Mako or both. The only issue I have with the Roc's are the numerous types; it is a little daunting. But hey, I got my seven year old daughter a 121 gm ROC last month and she is having fun with it.

Thanks again,

Mark

[Chad_from_BC]

In sea level air discs are already pretty flippy, so if your buzz is over stable for you perhaps you just need to throw it flatter.

[erp]

If your daughter will let you throw her 121, I'm guessing it will flip nicely for you!

Thanks all for the suggestions.

Anyway, I did enjoy the Buzzz but I think that I was using it in situations where I needed to switch more to a putter. I had been so unhappy with my old putter last year that I think that I simply did not switch when I got within 120 feet or so. I have two newer putters now and I'm enjoying better success there.

Anyway, I still liked the fade my Buzzz had in certain situations. I think I will get a Z-Glo at a slightly lighter weight. I am also thinking of the Meteor or Mako or both. The only issue I have with the Roc's are the numerous types; it is a little daunting. But hey, I got my seven year old daughter a 121 gm ROC last month and she is having fun with it.

Thanks again,

Mark

[Chad_from_BC]

With all the different rocs out there I just stick with KC Pro. I have a 168 11x I'm beating in right now and it's starting to stand up nicely.

[erp]

I just buy them all and keep a pit of rocs like a ball-crawl in my basement.

Days I can't throw I just go down there and pretend they're gold dubloons and I'm Scrooge McDuck...

With all the different rocs out there I just stick with KC Pro. I have a 168 11x I'm beating in right now and it's starting to stand up nicely.

[papatart]

Ok,

I just threw my Z-Buzzz about 20 feet or more into a massive blackberry patch at a park near my house. Over the past month or two I have noticed that this disc was really very over stable for me. To really get it to sing I had to throw it hard and with a lot of spin. Other wise it really brakes hard right (I throw LHBH) at the end. This is how it ended up in the brambles. Anyway, as my only midrange disc I was already looking at other options. Since I am a person who did not eat their spinach as a kid, I do not throw very hard. I also throw with that left arm of mine that does nothing else but throw a disc; I know I am a freak.

Anyway so does anyone have any other suggestions for a midrange disc?

Comet?
Mako?
Buzzz-SS?
Others?

Thanks all,

Mark


Definitely try the Meteor, or also the Buzzz SS. For a straight throwing mid at all speeds, there is no better disc in my bag than the Buzzz SS. It is a great compliment to my Buzzz that has just that bit of overstability at the end.

Enjoy!

Papa

[The Course Bro]

Or you could try a Latitude 64 Core. Maybe a little more flippy than the Buzz and made of Swedish Plastic, which as we all know, is the best.

[Twitch]

Thanks everyone for their input. I decided to try the Mako. It really flies a lot different then the Buzzz. Much more like a putter. It is a disc that is definitely neutral. It seems to fly much slower. What I do like about it is the landings. The small sampling of throws that I have tried with it have all had nice soft landings. The thing seems to stall at the end and floats softly down to the ground.

All in all I find this disc much more defensive for me. The Buzzz was a disc that I attacked the target. The Mako will stay in my bag as I did have some good placement shots at Pier last weekend. Although I did miss my Buzzz and this early evening, I took my daughter to my local park along with some large clippers and took back my Buzzz from the brier patch. It was easier than I thought. Someone had already blazed a small opening and once you were in ten feet, most of the canes thinned out.

Thanks again,

Mark

[T-Bird]

I have ditched my Buzzes and Comets in favor of the Mako.
It just goes where you throw it. Once I trained myself to not adjust for a fade it's been $$$.
I have been using it for putting as well. Love it.

[BlarneyStoner]

If your Buzzz is too stable then I would recommend the Meteor.

I second this... great disc for those of us without 400 feet of power. Nice gliding anny's and laser-beam hyzer-flips.

[General Scales]

I just can't get a grip on a Meteor. The Buzzz is almost too understable if I put some drive like speed and snap on it. Just like the Comet. Can't throw that disc to save my life either.

[Ol' Bob]

For the guys with pop, there is the rare FLX Buzzz out there that snappy guys can throw. Ya gotta shop 'em. With my lack of snap, I can (must) throw them hard. It is the most predictable/aimable disc I throw when I'm leaning into it. I hope you get a hold of one of the stable ones sometime. They are just tons of fun.

[JMan]

I just went through, but did I miss the question of what weight you are throwing?

[General Scales]

Ill second that motion on the FLX Buzzz being the more high speed stable of the line up. Thats why I keep one when I really need to get on it. Or I need a little bit of fade at the end of 250 foot tunnel shot.

[Parks]

Of course, if a straightish mid like the Buzzz is fading hard on you, then that is more indicative that you need to get the nose down more rather than changing mids.

Anything thrown dramatically nose up will fade hard, including mids (which tend to ignore a little nose up).

Try playing catch with a friend at about 100 feet with a fairway driver or mid and focus on keeping the nose down. Try to keep the fade minimal without tossing it hard at all.

[Ken Smith]

Status & Skeeter.

Or throw a Monster very softly and it will break so hard left (or for you) right, that it will do a 360 and be straight down the fairway.

[Twitch]

Of course, if a straightish mid like the Buzzz is fading hard on you, then that is more indicative that you need to get the nose down more rather than changing mids.

Anything thrown dramatically nose up will fade hard, including mids (which tend to ignore a little nose up).

Try playing catch with a friend at about 100 feet with a fairway driver or mid and focus on keeping the nose down. Try to keep the fade minimal without tossing it hard at all.

I have noticed that and it is one of the things I need to work on, keeping the disc down more and not popping up so much. Wrist snap and grip or the two other things.

Thanks again,

Mark