XD retooled

[Sean Phillips]

I just heard from Brody Miller that the newest shipment of XDs at Disc Golf Depot have been retooled:confused::confused::confused:

I haven't seen them yet, but Brody says they're deeper (more like an aviar). WTF Mate :pullhair: If I wanted an aviar, I'd buy a freaking aviar. :headbang:

I hate innova and discraft doesn't make discs that I like. I may have to switch to the Latitude Spike for a putter. Very XD like.

[Pizzel]

I just heard from Brody Miller that the newest shipment of XDs at Disc Golf Depot have been retooled:confused::confused::confused:

I haven't seen them yet, but Brody says they're deeper (more like an aviar). WTF Mate :pullhair: If I wanted an aviar, I'd buy a freaking aviar. :headbang:

I hate innova and discraft doesn't make discs that I like. I may have to switch to the Latitude Spike for a putter. Very XD like.Say it aint so!!! I will stop throing Inova if this is true.

[Sean Phillips]

Another update:

The super small bead that was on the XD is not on the retooled mold. It's beadless and gets pushed around in the wind a lot.

[Sean Phillips]

Say it aint so!!! I will stop throing Inova if this is true.

Dude, I'm with you. :bricks:INNOVA:bricks:

[sillybizz]

I already throw Discraft, time for you blokes to switch!

[Tim]

Interesting...dunno what Innova's thinking with that. You might check out the Ringer though if you like the shallow putters. It's more stable than an XD, I think, but I doubt Discraft would switch up the mold like that.

[Pizzel]

Interesting...dunno what Innova's thinking with that. You might check out the Ringer though if you like the shallow putters. It's more stable than an XD, I think, but I doubt Discraft would switch up the mold like that.
I have a Ringer, but it is more over-stable than I would like. I think the Wizard would the first putter on my list if I need to change my bag.

[Sean Phillips]

The ringer is super flat and has no glide or float to it. And it's too overstable. And it's the devil :evilgrin:

Anyway, the wizard is good, but still pretty stable (as in too stable for a putter). I've only putted with one and I've heard that different runs have different stabilities. So I may have to check it out.

Pizzel - have you played around with the Spike? Still a bit too stable but it feels a lot like an XD. I don't grip the stupid gripy patch on top.

I'm really tempted to drive across town to DGD to see these things. I'm nervous. :pullhair::waaah:

[Tim]

I have a Ringer, but it is more over-stable than I would like. I think the Wizard would the first putter on my list if I need to change my bag.

Interesting. I've only thrown a Ringer a couple times, but I would think a Wizard would be at least as over-stable. I'd think that a Magic would be closest to an XD, but I'm no expert.

EDIT: Just saw Sean's post after I posted mine. Sean, if you're open to tossing Gateway stuff, give the Voodoo or Magic a try (Warlock is also an option, but I found them to be pretty similar to Wizards). I've been a fan of Wizards for a few years now, and in my experience, you'll be hard pressed to get 2 that feel alike, but they all fly pretty much the same (at least in the baseline "S" plastic).

[General Scales]

I have a Ringer, a few Wizards and two Focus's. If the Wizard is the putter you'd use to replace the XD you should really try a Focus. Very much like the Wizard with the rim depth of a Challenger. Good driving putter. Good approach and super dependable within 30.

Ringer is still my goto though for 150 to 30. Especially in the wind.

[JMan]

typical innovaland thinking; too bad guys, hardest disc to replace when I dumped innovaland. Not that Big D hasn't made a few blunders, but retooling one of the greatest discs ever...hurt them where they'll feel it, quarterly profit statements.

[Pizzel]

The ringer is super flat and has no glide or float to it. And it's too overstable. And it's the devil :evilgrin:

Anyway, the wizard is good, but still pretty stable (as in too stable for a putter). I've only putted with one and I've heard that different runs have different stabilities. So I may have to check it out.

Pizzel - have you played around with the Spike? Still a bit too stable but it feels a lot like an XD. I don't grip the stupid gripy patch on top.

I'm really tempted to drive across town to DGD to see these things. I'm nervous. :pullhair::waaah:
Does the Spike have any glide to it?

[essjay]

:Please don't berate me for this question, I don't have a great deal of experience with either disc:

What about a Dart?

:ducking and leaving the room:

[Pizzel]

:Please don't berate me for this question, I don't have a great deal of experience with either disc:

What about a Dart?

:ducking and leaving the room:You can't duck low enough!!!! jk
I haven't thrown the Dart much, but I remember it having a funky profile. I will check one out tonight when I am buying every max-weight XD in the Portland Metro area.

[Flash]

You can't duck low enough!!!! jk
I haven't thrown the Dart much, but I remember it having a funky profile. I will check one out tonight when I am buying every max-weight XD in the Portland Metro area.

has anyone asked Dave D. on the PDGA forums about it?

[Bruce]

They retooled one of the new teebird molds recently too, it has me wondering what disc is next, and not in a good way :(

[Sean Phillips]

Does the Spike have any glide to it?

Ya, I feel like it's flight path is the closest to an XD than any other putter. Just a tad more turn at the end.

Oh, you have to get the "star" type plastic one, not the "DX" type plastic. I think you'll dig it if you were to stray away from the XD.

[snap7times]

xd was pflt to begin with so y'all better off anyways... i tried to use xd for like 3 months, my game suffered, switched to avair, it's been all uphill since...

[Ol' Bob]

It's probably something they got from a marketing expert. I'm sure they didn't toss away the old mold. They will let a mystique build for a year or two and then jerk yo asses around some.

[maynard]

Im pretty sure the original xd did not have a bead. It was my first real golf disc way back when.
But that was a lot of years ago and my mind is a bit hazey back in those days~

[Sam]

xd was pflt to begin with so y'all better off anyways...

That's twice. In two days.
Stop saying things that piss me off!
:)

[Pizzel]

xd was pflt to begin with so y'all better off anyways... i tried to use xd for like 3 months, my game suffered, switched to avair, it's been all uphill since...
How about we play Milo. I will use two XDs. You can bring your putter, a mid-range and fairway driver.

Any predictions on how this show down would end?

[sillybizz]

XD and the Meteor are the two mids or putters I've seen out length drivers many times; it's funny to see people say "That's a putter?!"

I'm a Discraft fanboy but I admit I like the XD alot.

[snap7times]

How about we play Milo. I will use two XDs. You can bring your putter, a mid-range and fairway driver.

Any predictions on how this show down would end?

hmmmm see you at BSF... I'm all game... fun fun...

[snap7times]

That's twice. In two days.
Stop saying things that piss me off!
:)

your silence the past few months pissed me off but I remembered that all good things come to those who wait....
I noticed you started playing masters lately... must be that XD holding you back... ;)

[JMan]

How about we play Milo. I will use two XDs. You can bring your putter, a mid-range and fairway driver.

Any predictions on how this show down would end?

I'll caddy for you JP...

[Skookum]

Vibram Summit is very XD like. It's shallow, understable, flat, and has a tiny bead. Anybody else thrown one and can agree with that or has it been too long since the last time I threw a XD?

[Matt B.]

your silence the past few months pissed me off but I remembered that all good things come to those who wait....
I noticed you started playing masters lately... must be that XD holding you back... ;)

ADVANCED masters :nahnah:

[Sean Phillips]

Im pretty sure the original xd did not have a bead. It was my first real golf disc way back when.
But that was a lot of years ago and my mind is a bit hazey back in those days~

It's extremely subtle, not like the aviar bead.

[REDFIVE]

I just heard from Brody Miller that the newest shipment of XDs at Disc Golf Depot have been retooled:confused::confused::confused:

I haven't seen them yet, but Brody says they're deeper (more like an aviar). WTF Mate :pullhair: If I wanted an aviar, I'd buy a freaking aviar. :headbang:

I hate innova and discraft doesn't make discs that I like. I may have to switch to the Latitude Spike for a putter. Very XD like.

That's retoolded! :jumpspin:

[Uhlman]

I have found that putters are like underwear... Everyone likes something different: Boxers, briefs, thongs, commando, cotton, leather, spandex... I remember when the brand I wore went to the tag less stamp… I was like how am I going to be able to tell which way is front… I got used to it though.

[REDFIVE]

Did the tag change the flight?

[Uhlman]

Did the tag change the flight?
Ok so maybe it was a bad analogy. What I am saying is that things change and we need to get used to it. If the change doesn’t work for you, move on to something that does. In the business I work in, the only thing constant is change. I am not saying what is happening to this putter is good or bad. However, whining about it here won't fix it.

[Jonesy]

i just switched to the xd!! F ers! I dont drive with it so the 3 i have should last for years i hope. Plenty of scripp to pick up more from NA tomorrow!)
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[Trozzle!!!]

I nly use my old ass Xd as a putter, so I got no worries of losing it.

[Sean Phillips]

I've thrown the new XD......















I'm not sure if it's better or worse yet. I think that's good news that I didn't hate it right off the bat. I think it putts straighter and floatier than the older mold. It still comes out of my hand like the older ones.

More review details to come later.

[keys]

From the PDGA forum.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flash_25296 View Post
Dave,

Has the Xd been retooled lately. It appears the newer ones coming into retailers is different from there predecessors?

If so why would you change something that so many people call home when it comes to putting?

It seems there is a missing bead, however small the older ones were, on the new ones.
We have gone back to the original XD without the bead, just as we did with the Aviar P&A. The old part was worn out and the small bead really didn't do anything.

[keys]

Dave's response to flash on the PDGA forum worries me. When he says "part" is he referring to the mold? When a part part wears out does that mean we will never see that disc again? Is there no way to reproduce the part?

[Sean Phillips]

Dave's response to flash on the PDGA forum worries me. When he says "part" is he referring to the mold? When a part part wears out does that mean we will never see that disc again? Is there no way to reproduce the part?

He's most likely referring to the mold. It is possible to replicate a plastic injection mold but it's extremely difficult to get everything exactly the same. The San Marino Roc is a good example. The mold broke, Innova had a new one made, the new san marino's are more stable than the old ones.

[Ol' Bob]

They should take the new molds and crash 'em into a few trees.

[Jonesy]

the obvious difference in the new mold is the dome on it. all of the xds at NA are the new mold except 1 157g. where did all the old mold go? just all of the sudden everyone is all out of them all at the same time? no one had back stock?
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[emmarose]

i noticed maybe a year ago that a couple xd's i got were domier than i like... then they went back to being flat... but i don't use my xd for a putter... i use it for my upshots... so i'm a bit distraught... luckily, my daddy's got a couple backups laying around... so i'm good for a little bit...

peace,
em

[Ol' Bob]

i use it for my upshots...

Ever tried a Four-Times JK-Pro Aviar-X for that? Magic.

[emmarose]

Ever tried a Four-Times JK-Pro Aviar-X for that? Magic.

i will look into that, bob, thank you... any suggestions would be greatly appreciated... altho, upshots was maybe a bit inaccurate... approaches would be a better description, i think... i've started using my aviar for my shorter upshots... it's just that with the xd i am freaking dead on accurate almost all of the time... i have more faith in that disc than any other... i just hate the idea of losing such a dependable part of my bag... :(

peace,
em

[The Course Bro]

Lat 64 Spikes are very XD-like in shape and flight with way more glide and in Zero plasic- hella sticky. They feel rigid in you hand but will fall dead after hitting something and won't slide like the XDs (I threw XDs for years but the hard plastic didn't work for my putting style and when I missed, sometimes I could still see the basket for my come-back putt).

[Ol' Bob]

Yup, approaches. I've started using a Ringer when I'm afraid the Four Times will go too long (which is its only problem). I really have to be careful on downhill approaches with it. I can't throw anything very far uphill. I usually go with my FLX Surge for going up.

It was great luck to be given that disc. I really have to guard against Darr stealing it when he comes around. Four Times JK Pro Aviar-Xs make him crazy.

[emmarose]

Yup, approaches. I've started using a Ringer when I'm afraid the Four Times will go too long (which is its only problem). I really have to be careful on downhill approaches with it. I can't throw anything very far uphill. I usually go with my FLX Surge for going up.

It was great luck to be given that disc. I really have to guard against Darr stealing it when he comes around. Four Times JK Pro Aviar-Xs make him crazy.

alrighty. sounds like something i'll have to check out for sure...

peace,
em

[Jester]

alrighty. sounds like something i'll have to check out for sure...

peace,
em

DO NOT fall in love with 4X JKs. They are hard to find and cost a pretty penny. I have a small stack of them and that is the only reason they are still in the bag. Besides, JKs are substantially more stable than an XD. It would be much cheaper to track down a stack of XDs the 4X JKs.

Any chance you want to get rid of yours Bob?

[Jonesy]

Joel -

Thank you for writing. The mold is changed forever.

INNOVA Champion Discs
info@innovadiscs.com


joel jones wrote:
will you ever be able to copy the old xd mold or is it forever changed? I don't want to switch putters!!!!!!! ugh!
Jonesy #41975
portland, or
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[Ol' Bob]

Any chance you want to get rid of yours Bob?

Did I mention I'm armed?

[emmarose]

DO NOT fall in love with 4X JKs. They are hard to find and cost a pretty penny. I have a small stack of them and that is the only reason they are still in the bag. Besides, JKs are substantially more stable than an XD. It would be much cheaper to track down a stack of XDs the 4X JKs.

Any chance you want to get rid of yours Bob?

hmmm... good advice...

peace,
em

[Denny]

I think the Wizard would the first putter on my list if I need to change my bag.

:rockon::rockon::rockon::rockon::rockon::rockon:

The wizard changed my life it took me from :confused: to :cool2:

[Pizzel]

Joel -

Thank you for writing. The mold is changed forever.

INNOVA Champion Discs
info@innovadiscs.com


joel jones wrote:
will you ever be able to copy the old xd mold or is it forever changed? I don't want to switch putters!!!!!!! ugh!
Jonesy #41975
portland, orBummer.....

[emmarose]

Joel -

Thank you for writing. The mold is changed forever.

INNOVA Champion Discs
info@innovadiscs.com


joel jones wrote:
will you ever be able to copy the old xd mold or is it forever changed? I don't want to switch putters!!!!!!! ugh!
Jonesy #41975
portland, or


this is terrible news...

... but i will try to stay positive and just keep repeating my new mantra i had to come up with after losing all my favorite plastic out at trojan... "it's not the disc, it's the golfer..."

peace,
em

[TreeLove]

Joel -

Thank you for writing. The mold is changed forever.

INNOVA Champion Discs
info@innovadiscs.com


joel jones wrote:
will you ever be able to copy the old xd mold or is it forever changed? I don't want to switch putters!!!!!!! ugh!
Jonesy #41975
portland, or

You guys really buying that? Fish on!

[emmarose]

You guys really buying that? Fish on!

... explain yourself? what am i buying?

[TreeLove]

... explain yourself? what am i buying?

That what Jonesy wrote was truly Innova's response. I am wondering whether he even wrote them at all...

No date, no time, no return address, no signature = NO PROOF.

But I find it amusing that he had so many folks sold on the idea....

[DMajor]

Fish

[Jonesy]

sorry. i just copyd and pasted. didn't occure to me that i'd be questioned on authenticity. write them yourself. the link is on their site. think i'm going to check out that lat 64 spike someone was writing about.
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[Pizzel]

That what Jonesy wrote was truly Innova's response. I am wondering whether he even wrote them at all...

No date, no time, no return address, no signature = NO PROOF.

But I find it amusing that he had so many folks sold on the idea....Huh? Lay off the weed, Stern. It is making you paranoid and annoying.

[Bullseye]

That what Jonesy wrote was truly Innova's response. I am wondering whether he even wrote them at all...

No date, no time, no return address, no signature = NO PROOF.

But I find it amusing that he had so many folks sold on the idea....

That response fits Dave Dunipace's response to Flash on the PDGA board

HERE (http://www.pdga.com/discussion/showpost.php?p=1418146&postcount=11185)

[TreeLove]

OK OK I was just funnin' ya - geez, are all XD throwers this sensitive - sorry :blush:

I do understand the depression, I wouldn't be thrilled if my putter were retooled (hopefully won't happen to the Aviar, but this IS Innova we're talking about), but eventually, ALL GOOD MOLDS COME TO AN END.

Like anything mechanical, they do actually wear out, break, etc. Plus, there's the marketing advantage to having a constantly changing product that everyone is convinced they need..., eh, Microsoft?

Anyway, I'll duck out of the XD thread now for a while, before I completely drive Pizzle over the edge...

[Pizzel]

OK OK I was just funnin' ya - geez, are all XD throwers this sensitive - sorry :blush:

I do understand the depression, I wouldn't be thrilled if my putter were retooled (hopefully won't happen to the Aviar, but this IS Innova we're talking about), but eventually, ALL GOOD MOLDS COME TO AN END.

Like anything mechanical, they do actually wear out, break, etc. Plus, there's the marketing advantage to having a constantly changing product that everyone is convinced they need..., eh, Microsoft?

Anyway, I'll duck out of the XD thread now for a while, before I completely drive Pizzle over the edge...How can the XD mold wear down? It was carved out of Animantium by Chuck Norris! And, I am so worked up because the old XD mold is suppose to save the world. The Mayans and Nostradamus wrote about it!

[emmarose]

sorry. i just copyd and pasted. didn't occure to me that i'd be questioned on authenticity. write them yourself. the link is on their site. think i'm going to check out that lat 64 spike someone was writing about.

i believed ya', jonesy!

;)

peace,
em

[Chopper]

There are some original XD's available on ebay. If you throw the dx plastic that is. Runnin about 8 bucks +3 for shipping.

[emmarose]

There are some original XD's available on ebay. If you throw the dx plastic that is. Runnin about 8 bucks +3 for shipping.

thanks... looks like i'm gonna have to stock up...

peace,
em

[Sean Phillips]

After further investigation. I don't think the new run of XD (apparently the old aviarXD mold) is too different than the old one. :chinscratch: I might even like it more. :shocked: They feel a little different in my hand and might take a little getting used to. I won't know until I run out of my 20 other XD's I already have. I've been stocking up on good XD's, so it'll be a while. :nahnah:

Anyway, don't fret fellow XD lovers. They're very similar. Sorry for starting this huge frantic XDnation riot.

[Jonesy]

i appreciate it. one more nail in the innova coffin. the xd was one of the last innova discs in my bag. i'll continue to throw it this weekend and have it switched out by the M3PO. its not so much the new disc that annoys me but that innova has no allegence to their throwers in not even trying to replicate the old mold and no warnings on the change, like no one would notice.
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[snap7times]

sean phillips = boy who cried wolf

[Chopper]

The new XD's suck.

[RonTheWhip]

i appreciate it. one more nail in the innova coffin. the xd was one of the last innova discs in my bag. i'll continue to throw it this weekend and have it switched out by the M3PO. its not so much the new disc that annoys me but that innova has no allegence to their throwers in not even trying to replicate the old mold and no warnings on the change, like no one would notice.

Ringer would be a great substitute for the XD. It fits right in between the Classic Roc and the XD in terms of stability and size of bead. It has a much shallower rim and overall doesn't fly as far, but is stable and low profile, which is what attracted me to the Classic Roc a few years ago.

[emmarose]

After further investigation. I don't think the new run of XD (apparently the old aviarXD mold) is too different than the old one. :chinscratch: I might even like it more. :shocked: They feel a little different in my hand and might take a little getting used to. I won't know until I run out of my 20 other XD's I already have. I've been stocking up on good XD's, so it'll be a while. :nahnah:

Anyway, don't fret fellow XD lovers. They're very similar. Sorry for starting this huge frantic XDnation riot.

seriously... the trauma and distress you have put me thru... all for naught... and it's not like i'm not head-casey and high strung enough all on my own... sheesh... i'm going to the cozy area to chill out with a blankie and a lovey and my xd...

peace,
em

[The Course Bro]

XD lovers

Arise and put your money where your mouth is:
Two first run XDs are going for WAY TOO LITTLE on eBay. And by first run, I mean with the aviar XD stamp. Seriously old school.
Both are UNTHROWN. One is mint and the other has storage wear.

Orange MINT 174g HERE (http://cgi.ebay.com/First-Run-XD-Collectable-Mint_W0QQitemZ120545221262QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_De faultDomain_0?hash=item1c110e1a8e#ht_500wt_1182)

Red/Pinkish New w/ storage wear 176(???!!!)g HERE (http://cgi.ebay.com/First-Run-XD-Collectable-Nice_W0QQitemZ120545235446QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_De faultDomain_0?hash=item1c110e51f6#ht_500wt_1182)

Go get some history from Nevada and bring 'em to the great Northwest.
Cheers, Bro

[Ol' Bob]

You got one with this stamp? http://people.msoe.edu/~cohenm/c3a.jpg

[mrDROCK]

Can anyone give me some comparison between the XD, the Aviar, and the Aero?

I am a solid month into this sport and currently throwing an Aviar, but interested in the XD's slimmer profile.

[Uhlman]

Can anyone give me some comparison between the XD, the Aviar, and the Aero?

I am a solid month into this sport and currently throwing an Aviar, but interested in the XD's slimmer profile.

The Aero is a straight flying large diameter disc that has wicked glide (glide factor 6 on the Innova scale). I use mine for longer putts 20 to 50 feet. It also makes a great utility disc, which is what I used mine for before I found the Coyote. As I said before in this thread, putters are like underwear and everyone has their own likes and dislikes. The only way you will find what you like is to try a few and see what you like. The first disc I bought was a 174g yellow Aero with a blue stamp and it’s still in my bag. Granted we’ve had our disagreements at times (why don’t you want to go in your home you stupid disc, don’t you like your home?) but we also had great times like the time she and I sank a 35 footer for par. Her name is Gertrude.

[Ol' Bob]

I carry four different putters: My goto inside 40 feet is the Rattler. I use the Ching JuJu for annie right-around putts. For longer putts where it is necessary to power up a bit, or where I need a left-around, it's the JK Pro 4x Aviar-X. I've recently added the Ringer in an effort to deal with wind (when I don't just throw a driver at the chains). None of them are worth a crap if I don't practice (a lot).

Personally, I never liked the XD. It didn't seem suited to my spin-putting style. So much fade makes it hard to judge a nice dead fall into the chains/basket. With the understable Rattler, I'll still give it some annie spin and get a nice nearly straight 'S' line to the chains, arriving there just as the fade is going to crash it anyway, keeping my misses close in.

[Parks]

its not so much the new disc that annoys me but that innova has no allegence to their throwers in not even trying to replicate the old mold and no warnings on the change, like no one would notice.

Yeah, it would be much better if they just discontinued their good discs with a cult following like Discraft does.

[The Course Bro]

You got one with this stamp? http://people.msoe.edu/~cohenm/c3a.jpg

Nice. That would be a sweet stamp- maybe with ANHYSER underneath?

[Ol' Bob]

One of those stamps went off at auction three years ago for a mere $825,000.

[The Course Bro]

One of those stamps went off at auction three years ago for a mere $825,000.

Rarest stamp of all, no?

[Ol' Bob]

Probably not as rare as this numbered block:
http://www.philatelictidbits.com/images/jenny_block.jpg

[General Scales]

Yeah, it would be much better if they just discontinued their good discs with a cult following like Discraft does.

Referring to the MRV no? That was a dumb move. Especially since finding them is hard. And convincing the people you found with them to get rid of them is even harder.

Back to the XD. My buddy Jeff read this and did two things. Laughed cause he bought a stack of them along time ago from his dad. He then cried because he's sold half of his stack.

[Parks]

Referring to the MRV no? That was a dumb move. Especially since finding them is hard. And convincing the people you found with them to get rid of them is even harder.

Referring to the MRV as well as the MRX, Hawk (Discraft's top pro uses it), Xtreme, X-Clone, X2, Talon, Swirl APX... I'm sure there's more.

[General Scales]

Referring to the MRV as well as the MRX, Hawk (Discraft's top pro uses it), Xtreme, X-Clone, X2, Talon, Swirl APX... I'm sure there's more.

Well, I know that Jack at Rapid Fire has in his discontinued box some MRX's and X-Clones and X-2's along with Rockets. And I'm pretty sure that in the regular case is like 4 or 5 Talons. Also at least two Slipstreams.

Also isn't the Swirl APX what the Wizard became? I remember reading that somewhere but I can't remember where.

A disc that I wish Innova would change or cancel instead of messing with the XD....the frickin Birdie. Man that's a brick of a disc.

Btw, I'm talking to my buddy Jeff about letting me snag ten of the old XD's from him. This way I can horde them over peoples heads and then make them disgusted by saying I'll never even throw them.

[Parks]

Well, I know that Jack at Rapid Fire has in his discontinued box some MRX's and X-Clones and X-2's along with Rockets. And I'm pretty sure that in the regular case is like 4 or 5 Talons. Also at least two Slipstreams.

Most retailers probably still have the old mold XD, as well.

Also isn't the Swirl APX what the Wizard became? I remember reading that somewhere but I can't remember where.

Not even close. The Swirl APX is slightly understable and fairly shallow. Also, last time I checked, Jack had a couple of them in stock. Of course, I haven't checked in a couple years :D

If anything, the Wizard is closest to a big bead Aviar with a rounded lower wing and a thinner flightplate.

Btw, I'm talking to my buddy Jeff about letting me snag ten of the old XD's from him. This way I can horde them over peoples heads and then make them disgusted by saying I'll never even throw them.

I wouldn't get too far ahead of yourself; I've heard people say the new mold flies incredibly close to the old mold.

Of course, even if they flew and felt exactly the same, there would be people who swear that the old mold flies way better.

[Turkey Sandwich]

This may be a little off topic, but is there a reason that the XD is classified as a putter rather than a mid range? Is it just a marketing technique by innova? I know classifications are arbitrary and don't really matter, I'm just curious. It feels and flies like a midrange for me.

That being said, I just switched to it for my putter and so far am loving it.

[The Course Bro]

The Xd was a classified as a driver when originally release. I've see 300+ ft. throws with them. A little slower than the Katana though. :whistler:

CHAMPION XDs seen in the wild!!! First run (that I am aware of) ever in champ plastic. Check the ebay watch thread for links. I'm bidding on the two auctions but I bet they will go for over 35-40 bucks. Too rich for my blood.

[NWDiscer]

CHAMPION XDs seen in the wild!!! First run (that I am aware of) ever in champ plastic. Check the ebay watch thread for links. I'm bidding on the two auctions but I bet they will go for over 35-40 bucks. Too rich for my blood.



hmmmm probably gonna be just like what happened to the classic rocs that they did when innova "changed/broke" that mold, if compared to the orig. version the new champion versions are overstable monsters.

:cheers:

[Sean Phillips]

This may be a little off topic, but is there a reason that the XD is classified as a putter rather than a mid range? Is it just a marketing technique by innova? I know classifications are arbitrary and don't really matter, I'm just curious. It feels and flies like a midrange for me.

That being said, I just switched to it for my putter and so far am loving it.

It's a very versatile disc. I use it as a putter, upshot, midrange, and sometimes driver.

A lot of NW disc golfers use it as a putter.

[Pizzel]

It's a very versatile disc. I use it as a putter, upshot, midrange, and sometimes driver.

A lot of NW disc golfers use it as a putter.Like Sean, I use my XD for everything. It is my go to disc out to about 280 ft. It is also the only thing I currenlty putt with.

[emmarose]

This may be a little off topic, but is there a reason that the XD is classified as a putter rather than a mid range? Is it just a marketing technique by innova? I know classifications are arbitrary and don't really matter, I'm just curious. It feels and flies like a midrange for me.

That being said, I just switched to it for my putter and so far am loving it.

mine says midrange right on the top... xd's... not just for putting anymore...

[Jonesy]

i went to disc golf depot today and threw my old xds along side the new ones out back 10 or so throws with each. the new ones have more glide and don't feel as understable. nailed my old molds each round. new molds, not so much.
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[Parks]

i went to disc golf depot today and threw my old xds along side the new ones out back 10 or so throws with each. the new ones have more glide and don't feel as understable. nailed my old molds each round. new molds, not so much.

You were comparing used discs with new discs, or did you have brand new old mold XDs also?

[Jonesy]

two of my old molds were just picked up a few months ago and all were rarely thrown till recently. i only started putting with them a few weeks ago but improved my game immediately. not old and used like pizzels.)
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[ChainBanger]

Kinda on subject, I just got a star xd with some scrip, anyone know how it compares to a DX XD. Is it any good?

[Tim]

The star XD is a completely different beast. I'm not an XD thrower, but the few Stars I've seen are super overstable, like a Whippet

[Trozzle!!!]

my XD is the oldest I have seen around. Thanks to Stu Hicks for trading a few years back. It is my only putter I ever use. If I ever lose this thing I will have to quit playing. it is money!!!
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d113/Troy_g/03-28-10_1259.jpg

[REDFIVE]

XD replasticed!!!!! (http://cgi.ebay.com/1ST-RUN-in-CHAMPION-XD-JAPAN-OPEN-LEGAL-159g-GOLF-DISC_W0QQitemZ140393965775QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_De faultDomain_0?hash=item20b021e8cf)

[Uhlman]

XD replasticed!!!!! (http://cgi.ebay.com/1ST-RUN-in-CHAMPION-XD-JAPAN-OPEN-LEGAL-159g-GOLF-DISC_W0QQitemZ140393965775QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_De faultDomain_0?hash=item20b021e8cf)

Just bid 30 on it... was out bid

[REDFIVE]

Just bid 30 on it... was out bid

there are 5 of them (http://sporting-goods.shop.ebay.com/i.html?_nkw=champion+xd&_sacat=20851&_trksid=p3286.m270.l1313&_sop=1&_odkw=disc+golf&_osacat=20851&bkBtn=)

[Uhlman]

there are 5 of them (http://sporting-goods.shop.ebay.com/i.html?_nkw=champion+xd&_sacat=20851&_trksid=p3286.m270.l1313&_sop=1&_odkw=disc+golf&_osacat=20851&bkBtn=)

thanks
may be i'll win one... for my wife

[Pizzel]

there are 5 of them (http://sporting-goods.shop.ebay.com/i.html?_nkw=champion+xd&_sacat=20851&_trksid=p3286.m270.l1313&_sop=1&_odkw=disc+golf&_osacat=20851&bkBtn=)Sweet! Bids placed.

[The Course Bro]

I've got a champ XD that I won as a second chance offer on ebay. (Second chance offers are auctions where the winner does not work out-no payment, abducted by aliens, etc. and the second highest bidder gets the chance to buy the disc). My bid was 27 bucks plus shipping for at total of $32.95.

Here is the disc (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330418051732&ssPageName=ADME:X:SCO:US:1123#ht_618wt_1165)

Anyone want it? I'm short on funds so I am going to pass. The offer expires at this evening so let me know. I should be able to ship the disc right to your house. Anyone interested?

Cheers, Bro

[LegoRules]

I just ordered an R-Pro XD from Herodiscgolf. Not sure how I will like it, but I wanted to give it a go.

Cindy :)